Re: [G3-5]Re: Mac OS X Server 1.2v3 on unsupported Power Macs, specifically: the Cube
On 7/23/12 4:18 PM, Illirik Smirnov at illir...@gmail.com wrote: Yes and yes, but I think that it's probably a better idea to XPostFacto in retail 10.5.8 in if you REALLY want Leopard, and I see no reason why you want it on a G3. It *will* run poorly. I keep either OS9 or 10.3 on all of my G3s (which is a small sample size, seeing as how all I have is an iMac G3 and a Clamshell to go with it). A 350-400+MHz G3 running OS9 is a capable machine, on 10.3 its slow but usable, on 10.4 it's barely usable; I can't imagine it running well in 10.5. But I like some challenges and experiments...;-) I remember back in 2001 that many people said it would be practically impossible to install and use Mac OS 9.1 on a PowerMac 6100 I had at the time. Well, I've installed... And it worked. Slowly, but anyway, I could use iTunes, broadband internet and CD burning (and also a 1024x768 video resolution trough the AV card). I put the brave 6100 (upgraded with a Sonnet G3 processor that many times refused to work properly...) into retirement in 2006, between other things because there was no way to install Mac OS X on it. ;-P -- MaGioZal. http://facebook.com/magiozal/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: G5 up and running, what about browsers?
On 7/25/12 2:57 PM, t...@prismnet.com at t...@prismnet.com wrote: Did you have problems in Toast, or just with Disk Utility? My problems were basically with the burning interface of Finder. -- MaGioZal. http://fotolog.com/_magiozal/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: G5 up and running, what about browsers?
On 7/27/12 4:49 PM, Paul Stamsen at paterfami...@gmail.com wrote: P.S. I dislike the new Google Groups interface. Blech! Newsgroups are supposed to be simple and texty, not full of CPU slowing frames and complex. Then you'll HATE the new FB Timeline!! ;) Well, first I was confused with the FB timeline, but with some time I'e got used to it -- because there are no way to turn back to the old interface, anyway... -- MaGioZal. http://twitpic.com/photos/magiozal/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: G5 up and running, what about browsers?
On 7/28/12 1:51 AM, Cameron Kaiser at spec...@floodgap.com wrote: P.S. I dislike the new Google Groups interface. Blech! Newsgroups are supposed to be simple and texty, not full of CPU slowing frames and complex. Yeah, it's terrible. It's not even good on the office Core i5, and it's way too slow for the iMac G4. The Yahooization of Google. -- MaGioZal. http://flickr.com/magiozal/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Eudora replacement
On 7/23/12 9:42 AM, Beniamino Cenci Goga at ben...@gmail.com wrote: By the way, regarding FB, there are many ways of using it: you don't need to upload the photos of your family or tell everybody what's going on in your life, you can even use a pen name. And it is possible to share FB photoalbuns even to people who do not have a FB account at all. -- MaGioZal. http://youtube.com/magiozal/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: G5 up and running, what about browsers?
On 7/24/12 5:47 AM, Kris Tilford at ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: PatchBurn 4.0.5 can fix this issue in anything earlier than 10.5, so it really doesn't matter if the firmware says Apple or something else. PatchBurn is HIGHLY recommendable for everyone who has a non-original CD/DVD writer and run Mac OS X versions prior to 10.5. Before installing P.B. I thought my DVD writer has some kind of hardware defect because it wrote CDs, but almost always had problems in writing DVDs... -- MaGioZal. http://magiozal.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Virtual Intel Mac for G multiprocessors
Wow. ;-) -- MaGioZal. http://fotolog.com/_magiozal/ On 7/20/12 11:13 AM, Douglas Mencken at dougmenc...@gmail.com wrote: Qemu? I've never heard about it... Is it free? It is 100% Free Software. Free as in speech. Does it run on PPC Tiger? ;-) I suppose yes. http://www.kju-app.org/ (I've never tried it myself, because I do prefer new software, so I went GNU/Linux way, I don't want to be stuck with Apple's abandoned OSes.) Attached is a screenshot of QEmu on PowerPC GNU/Linux running Windows 7. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Power mac g3 (BW) memory upgrade
On 7/20/12 3:25 PM, peterh...@cruzio.com at peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: AFAIK, ECC memory won't work in your G3 (I think this is true for most PowerMacs). G3 Beige is PC66. G3 BW and gigabit E-nets are PC100. DA and QS are PC133. Just to remember: Beige G3s can accept PC100 and PC133 memories, and BW G3s PC133 too. They will run them at the speed of their motherboard clocks. -- MaGioZal. http://youtube.com/magiozal/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Mac OS X Server 1.2v3 on unsupported Power Macs, specifically: the Cube
On 7/21/12 10:03 PM, Kris Tilford at ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: Old unsupported iBooks with a rudimentary 4MB Rage 128 card will boot 10.4.11 or the developer version of 10.5 Can this 10.5 developer version run on G3s? -- MaGioZal. http://youtube.com/magiozal/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Mac OS X Server 1.2v3 on unsupported Power Macs, specifically: the Cube
On 7/22/12 6:02 AM, Kris Tilford at ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Jul 22, 2012, at 3:15 AM, MaGioZal wrote: Can this 10.5 developer version run on G3s? The final developer version that runs on a G3 CPU is 9a303a. The 9a303a version was a tiny update (via Software Update) from the released 9a303, and it's unlike the update servers still offer this update, so for all practical purposes 9a303 was the final G3 CPU version of Leopard. Does this version can run Classic Environment? And would it be able to install via XPostFacto? -- MaGioZal. http://fotolog.com/_magiozal/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Updates for Mac OS X?
On 7/18/12 4:17 AM, Brian Christmas at ozsa...@gmail.com wrote: I'd rather the existing situation than be stuck on Classic OS 9.2.2 forever though. Power to the people still using it, but the world moves on. Even OS X will disappear one day, and it will be exciting to see the OS that will replace it! But anyway, as the same way I think people are free to use old socks, they are also free to use old OSes. ;-P -- MaGioZal. http://facebook.com/magiozal/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Virtual Intel Mac for G multiprocessors
On 7/18/12 9:26 PM, Jerry at apple.mail.lis...@oryx.cc wrote: +1 for Qemu. I have great hopes for it on other platforms also. Qemu? I'e never heard about it... Is it free? Does it run on PPC Tiger? ;-) -- MaGioZal. http://magiozal.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Fwd: Is SCSI DRIVE SAME AS UATA DRIVE?
On 6/24/12 2:42 AM, peterh...@cruzio.com at peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: One reason why I went with the ACARD solution on my Beige G3 was the ACARD firmware supported ANY sized UATA drive as a very early firmware update provided LBA 48. The greatest problem of ACARDs are their price. For the price of one of the cheapest of them, you could buy a brand-new 1TB hard disk in any store... -- MaGioZal. http://magiozal.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Updates for Mac OS X?
On 7/11/12 2:21 PM, Kyle Hansen at pi...@speakeasy.net wrote: That is pretty normal. Mac OS 10.2 was released almost exactly one DECADE ago. The Software Update servers usually only hold updates from the last few years. After that you have to navigate to Apple and do it manually. It is a huge burden on a company to support things back over a decade, so I am just happy that Apple is cool enough to even have the updates available in it's downloads page. It is in all of our best interests that Apple does NOT overburden itself with support for legacy products. They have more important things to be doing. ;) The strange thing is that up until this year (I had to re-install the OS in this HD) you could use Software Update to download software even in Mac OS 9! -- MaGioZal. http://youtube.com/magiozal/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Updates for Mac OS X?
On 7/12/12 12:02 AM, Richard Gerome at onecoolka...@earthlink.net wrote: I used to go to Apple's archives to get the combo updates... I used to also save them on my desktop and I might have Jaguar somewhere and I maybe could email it to you? I don't have Panther... I think Tiger is still available on Apple's website? Let me pull out my Clamshells and check? I also might have it on my old iPod too? And I don't have any 10.4 combo update saved here. :-/ -- MaGioZal. http://twitter.com/magiozal/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Updates for Mac OS X?
On 7/13/12 4:13 PM, Koralatov at li...@koralatov.com wrote: It isn't much of a burden at all, but Apple has made it pretty clear over the last couple of years that they *really* don't care about legacy machines. Long are gone the times when a Mac OS version (7.5.5) could run from a Plus to a multiprocessed 9600 machine... And this was used as selling point in Why Mac? brochures! But Steve Jobs, despite saving, ressurecting and rebranding Apple, gradually killed retrocompatibility. And Tim Cook seems to continue this policy. I bet that in 2014 any Apple product bought in 2010 will be unsupported, unupgradebable and useless... -- MaGioZal. http://youtube.com/magiozal/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: VLC (was Re: Flash help??)
On 6/18/12 11:02 PM, Jonas Lopez at jonaslo...@yahoo.com wrote: I re dl the version for ppc 0.9.19 for 10.4 it loaded just fine. I did the flash 10 likes 11 and all went well. VLC starts and you can hear the sound of *.flv file but still nothing but a black screen. G4 plays all others any ideas appreciated. jml. I've tried to run many different versions of VLC on my Beige G3 running 10.4.11 with onboard video. NONE of them worked. -- MaGioZal. http://flickr.com/magiozal/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Virtual Intel Mac for G multiprocessors
On 6/23/12 4:37 PM, John Ruschmeyer at jrusc...@gmail.com wrote: It's still a pretty tough order. VirtualPC has been out of production since the Tiger era (it is technically not fully compatible with Leopard). Moreover, it presents a fairly simple hardware model which is mainly designed to satisfy Microsoft OSs. As a result, it is highly likely that it does not even represent the minimum requirements for a Hackintosh. Tough according to official VirtualPC ads, someone could use UNIX and OS/2 Oses over it, not just only Windows. But anyway, has anyone really tried to install a post-Tiger, Intel-only Mac OS version on VPC -- MaGioZal. http://facebook.com/magiozal/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Good external hard drive?
On 10/26/11 5:24 PM, JoeTaxpayer at joetaxpaye...@gmail.com wrote: I think Bruce feels n is far lower than you or I do. I understand the technologies are different, but the cost curve for dollars per GB looks a lot like those for semiconductor density/ Moore's Law. So will the ratio drop from 50 to 1 to 10 to one in ten years? Maybe. As you say, there are distinct uses now or SSD, I bought the 80GB drive for a laptop and the boot time is now super. And yes, the battery time is great as well. iPads 64GB is enough especially with iCloud and easy syncing. As absolute pricing comes down, and a 1TB SSD is $100 vs a 25TB HD, more may choose SSD. I've seen graphs of drive pricing, not for SSD. I'd be curious. I think the differences are: € Solid state: low data reliability, low energy consumption, high relative durability, medium $ per byte € Hard disks: high data reliability, high energy consumption, medium/low relative durability, low/very low $ per byte -- MaGioZal. http://youtube.com/magiozal/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: USB 2.0 Card for MDD G4
On 10/27/11 12:12 PM, Bill Connelly at billycarmac...@verizon.net wrote: I would actually go with the cheaper one. They could be the same card, with a different name stamped on them. Although I like Sonnet Tech ... Rule of the thumb: any USB 2.0 card with a non-VIA chipset will work fine. The one I've got here in my Beige G3 has a NEC chipset. -- MaGioZal. http://formspring.me/magiozal/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Sad day...
On 10/6/11 3:42 AM, Bruce Johnson at john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: What it looks like in Snow Leopard (which allows 512x512 pixel icons) http://dbdev2.pharmacy.arizona.edu/miscjunk/Heres.png As close as I could zoom over the TextEdit icon in Tiger, I think that the text is different... -- MaGioZal. http://youtube.com/magiozal/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!
I would like to ask: it wouldn't be much more simple nowadays to buy a PCI-ATA card and attach the 128GB HD to it? -- MaGioZal. http://fotolog.com/_magiozal/ On 4/6/11 6:43 PM, Paul Stamsen at paterfami...@gmail.com wrote: Previously, at 8:22 PM +0200 4/6/11, as Mac User #330250 so eloquently wrote: (snip) The chief danger in that script is that if you do an OF reset you will lose access to the part of the drive above 128Gb until you re-activate the script. Sorry, I missed that. How again? No danger if the first partition is the boot partition and is limited to the size if 128 GB. Just don't use Disk Utility on it and you cannot do any harm to the other partitions that won't be visible until you've reset the OF hack and stored it in NVRAM again. If you keep your current 128Gb partition that will still be available, just any new partition you create will not be available. Exactly! You might want to create a small unused partition, one that spans the transition point then create t third partition that uses the remainder of the drive. The transition partition insures that no part of the third partition is available to the OS if the OF patch is missing. Worth thinking about, yes. If your fist partition IS exactly the 128 GB limit, you don't need this though. If part of it was accessible there is the possibility of it being corrupted. Yes. In such a case: avoid using this partition until the OF hack is restored. The danger is of course that OS utilities such as spotlight will write some data to the disk without you recognizing it. It will propably span over to the first partition and corrupt its data. DANGEROUS! It's hard to say what the OS or any repair tools might do to a disk that is only partly visible, it may attempt to repair the problem. Yes. Thanks, -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Trying to bring a partition back to life
Hi, I am currently running Mac OS 9 and 10.4 on a Beige G3 PowerMac, and recently the biggest, non-booting partition which contained alot of softwares and data (from which I didn't make backup...:-/) just died down after some forced shutdowns. I've tried 3 different tools of disk recovery, but I've got no results, as can be seen on the gallery: http://www.facebook.com/album.php? aid=242341id=600905786l=1d59b51309 (the captions are in that strange language called Portuguese, but the screenshots are in English. ;-)) Well, the big quetion is: qaht can I do now to rescue this partition? Is there any free alternative or just DiskWarrior can help? Best regards, -- MaGioZal - São Paulo, Brazil. http://twitter.com/magiozal/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo
On 2/22/10 3:36 AM, Mike Linnett at mike.dogho...@googlemail.com wrote: Also, for what it's worth, my blue and white g3 running tiger works just fine with an apple extended keyboard (possibly 2) plugged into it's adb port. I'm sure someone somewhere with a hacked Leo install on a g4 upgraded smurf (or earlier) musthave tried out the adb ports? Currently I am using an ADB keyboard and mouse that work pretty fine on Mac OS 10.4. -- MaGioZal. http://twitter.com/magiozal/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo
On 2/22/10 3:40 PM, Da'Birdman at sa...@defalcos.com wrote: Supported or not, I'm using a Apple Design Keyboard on this post with an iMate on a Mac Mini Intel running Snow Leopard. I much prefer the ADB Keyboards, especially this one. The only problem with my current ADB keyboard is that the right-side Control key is dead. I even pulled the key to clean the plastic button underside, but it did not work. :-/ -- MaGioZal. http://youtube.com/magiozal/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]WAS;Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB NOW key fix?
On 2/23/10 6:18 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio at fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: After unplugging the keyboard in a well vented area; Try repeatedly to flow in some contact cleaner or rubbing alcohol. Work the key and turn the board upside down and tap it to drain onto newspapers. You may notice some dark goop coming out. Repeat the process up to 6 times, there may be a lot of gunk in there. Drain it again and let it dry before plugging it in. I have had success with this method on several key/button/switch designs several times. If it does not work you have only lost a little time and solvent. If it does work you have regained some Mac function, HOORAY ! Promise I'll try something like this ASAP... Thanks! -- MaGioZal. http://twitter.com/magiozal/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question
On 2/15/10 9:28 AM, Kris Tilford at ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: That's great to know. I only have experience with the VIA Combo card that isn't backwards compatible to OS 9, and also isn't very good in OS X. I wouldn't recommend a VIA card VIA Cards are usable only if the Mac has a system equal or superior to 10.3. -- MaGioZal. http://facebook.com/magiozal/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Removing Open Superdrive from top menu
On 2/12/10 12:39 AM, Bill Connelly at billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: open your System Library CoreServices Menu Extras and double click on Eject.menu item Thanks for the tip, man! I though Apple had dropped this kind of utility... -- MaGioZal. http://facebook.com/magiozal/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
On 1/21/10 6:51 PM, Jonas Ulrich at jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, Apple is dropping support for PPC machines and Tiger in general. But on the other side Tiger is still quite usable. It is my everyday OS here, runnning on a non-upgraded Beige G3. By now, the only major softwares that don' run on Tiger that I miss are the newest version of iTunes and Google Chrome. -- MaGioZal, watching Carnaval on TV. http://twitpic.com/photos/magiozal/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
On 1/21/10 7:12 PM, Mac User #330250 at macuser330...@gmx.net wrote: But then... I love the Power Mac/Mac Pro aluminium case. It is beautiful but still functional and an do-it-yourself-hardware-upgraders' dream... And you can left one of the sides visible from the inside...;-) -- MaGioZal. http://facebook.com/magiozal/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
On 1/22/10 7:41 PM, Dan at dantear...@gmail.com wrote: All my Macs, that run System 7, Mac OS 8, Mac OS 9, Panther, and Tiger, are still running. They didn't suddenly gak the other day. The only BIG problem for these older OSes is web surfing. :-/ -- MaGioZal. http://twitter.com/magiozal/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
On 1/22/10 7:41 PM, Dan at dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At home, I think it's pretty stupid to dedicate a $1000+ computer to play streaming radio and drive a scanner. But for YouTube videos, it is very hard to handle them in older computers. :-/ -- MaGioZal. http://twitpic.com/photos/magiozal/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
On 1/23/10 10:41 AM, Mac User #330250 at macuser330...@gmx.net wrote: My experience is different, since all the Macs I have make a lot of noise. The most silent Power Mac I own is the G5 Late 2005 which has liquid cooling (even though it is the 2.0 GHz single processor (Dual Core) model -- I've read contrary information at everymac.com about the cooling system). Well, my Beige G3 is quite silent, mainly now when it has a 80GB ATA Maxtor HD. The former HD, a 9.1GB Ultra-SCSI IBM, oinked like a mad pig. :-P -- MaGioZal. http://flickr.com/magiozal/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
On 1/23/10 11:37 AM, Lawrence David Eden at lde...@comcast.net wrote: I watch videos on the internet...voice and video are a little out of sync. YouTube videos here are COMPLETELY out of sync, even when they'e completely downloaded. :-/ -- MaGioZal. http://formspring.me/magiozal/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
On 1/23/10 2:38 PM, Da'Birdman at sa...@defalcos.com wrote: I find Tiger performs noticeably faster than Panther. Believe me, sometimes I feel Tiger as quick (or as slow...:-P) as Jaguar on my Beige G3. -- MaGioZal. http://magiozal.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
On 1/23/10 3:36 PM, Mac User #330250 at macuser330...@gmx.net wrote: GIMP is nice. I prefer GraphicConverter 5.9.5 on the Smurf. I'll check it out. But I'm guessing that GraphicConverter isn't free... ...but is completely usable in its shareware version. Well, you'll get a annoying hang-on startup screen, but this is very little compared with the capabilities of this software. Anyway, GC is the one of the few sharewares I think is worth paying for. And as of 2010, they still support Mac OS 9 and PowerPC. -- MaGioZal. http://magiozal.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
On 1/25/10 7:05 PM, coolr...@comcast.net at coolr...@comcast.net wrote: I know someday I'll have to upgrade to Intel just as I had to upgrade from OS9 a few years ago but for now everything is working. As Bruce quoted the old axiom, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Another thing to consider is that older Macs are quite cheap and you feel more comfortable to open and hack trough it...;-) -- MaGioZal. http://fotolog.com/_magiozal/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
On 1/30/10 1:04 PM, JoeTaxpayer at joetaxpaye...@gmail.com wrote: The G4 is friendly to upgrades. Maxed out the memory to 2GB. For $10 added a USB 2.0 card. Easy to add Hard Drives as I catch them getting cheaper and cheaper. That' what a like in minitower CPUs. Think about the fact that a first-generation iBook will be locked forever on slow USB 1.1... And a 800x600 screen. -- MaGioZal. http://formspring.me/magiozal/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
On 1/30/10 1:31 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio at fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: $ problems seems to be the underlying reason in the majority of statements in this thread. Otherwise I suspect most of us would buy new Macs and not regret the move. My intention is to buy a brand-new Intel MacBook, but let my current day-by-day computer (a Beige G3 with 640MB RAM/80GB HD with Tiger and OS 9/Samsung DVD writer) still funcioning as a backup/internet server machine. -- MaGioZal. http://youtube.com/magiozal/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
= So, G-Group: Why are you (still) PowerPC-based Mac users? Because I would like to buy a brnd-new Intel Mac, but I still have to get the money to do that. And because with my Tiger-running Beige G3 I can most of the applications made for Mac OS X and Mac OS classic. That's it. -- MaGioZal. http://facebook.com/magiozal/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Removing Open Superdrive from top menu
On 1/21/10 10:48 PM, Kris Tilford at ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: Hold the Command key and drag it off the menu bar. It goes poof and disappears. Well... I'm running 10.4 now and just want the opposite: to add the eject menu... Any guess? -- MaGioZal. http://twitter.com/magiozal/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Safari 3.0.4
On 8/30/09 5:36 PM, J.M.P.Hissel at jo...@xs4all.nl wrote: No Leopard needed for Safari 4.0.3. It installed and runs flawlessly on my QS 800 (2002), 1,5 GB RAM and my Sawtooth 400, 1,75 GB RAM, both running 10.4.11. It's my daily browser of choice, running on my old faithful Beige G3 (thanks to XPostFacto)... -- MaGioZal. http://flickr.com/photos/magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: OSX10.4 on G3
On 8/25/09 9:47 PM, Mullin9 at ddavidmul...@inbox.com wrote: On Aug 25, 2:34 pm, steveoa steve.oak...@phonecoop.coop wrote: Hi, I'm trying to load 10.4 onto my G3 slot loader- 400Hz, 512 ram, The problem is the lack of RAM, 512 MB is just barely minimum, I'll go for 1GB RAM for a useable Tiger 10.4 I am running 10.4.11 here on a 512MB RAM Beige G3 without major problems. But I wuld like to add an extra 256MB RAM on the last free slot. ;-) -- MaGioZal. http://fotolog.com/_magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: OSX10.4 on G3
On 8/26/09 11:38 AM, Richard Gerome at onecoolka...@earthlink.net wrote: I really think you should have a processor speed over 650mhz for running Tiger... I have a few old clamshells and my 466 runs faster then my 366 running Jaguar, I get the spinning color disc too on the 366 more then the 466... When I went from 10.1 to 10.2.8 that slowed both machines down a lot... I bought a 366 off ebay and it had Panther in it and that was just way too slow for me even running 576mb so I did a clean and reinstall with Jaguar... Rich Well, my Beige G3 currently runs at... 266MHz. -- MaGioZal. http://magiozal.blogspot.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: OSX10.4 on G3
On 8/26/09 11:53 AM, Dan at dantear...@gmail.com wrote: The SPOD mostly comes from apps needing resources, such as waiting for disk i/o, paging memory, or network data. The problem of the spinning beach ball doesn't occur with 10.4 itself, but with the applications that run over it. -- MaGioZal. http://twitter.com/magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: OSX10.4 on G3
On 8/28/09 4:13 PM, Bill Connelly at billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: Tiger runs quite nicely on G3s. I would recommend 512Mb RAM as a minimum. Generally speaking Tiger will be faster than Panther. has anyone mentioned a good video card being necessary? Well, I run 10.4 here with Beige G3 without video card... It works, but it doesn't show graphics based on more recent/powerful video archicteture, like coverflow view in Safrai and iTunes. -- MaGioZal. http://magiozal.blogspot.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: OSX10.4 on G3
On 8/28/09 4:45 PM, steveoa at steve.oak...@phonecoop.coop wrote: Hi, I'm trying to load 10.4 onto my G3 slot loader- 400Hz, 512 ram, 63Gb spare on HD, using an external DVD via Firewire- all seems well with this. It runs ok till the Install section then just sits there with the spinning coloured disk. I've got 10.3 on it at present and I'm using the Easy Install option, any suggestions? Now I'm even more confused?? Have you tried to update the internal HD drivers? Many times installs of Mac OS don't work properly because of older HD drivers. -- MaGioZal. http://twitter.com/magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: OSX10.4 on G3
On 8/30/09 5:41 PM, Dan at dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 8:44 PM +0200 8/30/2009, Mac User #330250 wrote: How does Panther or even Jaguar run on your BW? Panther and Jaguar are *slower* than Tiger. Yes, but when it comes to memory requirements I bet Tiger uses more RAM then Panther or Jaguar did. According to my notes they're within 10 MB of each other. And more in Tiger is pageable - so one could make the case that Tiger uses LESS memory. And Tiger takes much less time to boot than previous versions of Mac OS X. -- MaGioZal. http://flickr.com/photos/magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]facebook
On 9/4/09 5:11 PM, Charles Lenington at macso...@tds.net wrote: I keep getting invites to fagbook. What is it, is it secure, why do i want it. does it run on macs? As any good web-based service, it runs on Mac...;-) -- MaGioZal. http://flickr.com/photos/magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: facebook/social networks
On 9/5/09 3:58 AM, Beniamino T. Cenci Goga at ben...@gmail.com wrote: I'm on facebook with some 200 friends, but still haven't used it for anything else than wasting time. I recall a friend of mine, quite a shy person, saying: ³isn¹t facebook that thing to help you find people that you had lost contact such 10-20 years ago? Well if you lost contact for so many years there must have been a good reason!² He is an introvert guy, but his analysis is quite interesting... I'e been using twitter mainly to post interesting news and texts I find in my everyday navigation, with some comments of mine (in my native language, Portuguese) here and there, too. In general I think it's interesting, but the thing that currently annoys me are the massive flow of messages regarding Facebook games like FarmVille and some stupid quiz results... -- MaGioZal. http://flickr.com/photos/magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: Adobe - PPC support
On 8/13/09 8:12 PM, Bruce Johnson at john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: Player and reader have a longer support 'tail' than authoring software, for example, you can still get OS 9 versions of flash player. Very OLD versions, mind you, since they long since stopped developing them, and many features no longer work. But virtually Mac OS 9 is Flashless, since of most Flash files of today aren't compatible with version 7, the last released to this operating system. -- MaGioZal. http://twitter.com/magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Website question
On 7/16/09 8:10 PM, Stephen Conrad at khel...@gmail.com wrote: It says I don't meet the Flash requirements What exactly are the requirements (it won't let me click the link to find out)? Newer versions of Adobe's Flash are not compatible with Mac OS Jaguar anymore. -- MaGioZal. http://twitter.com/magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Firefox 3.5
On 7/17/09 7:55 AM, Lawrence David Eden at lde...@comcast.net wrote: I am writing to you all about this in hopes that I have missed something that addresses the issues I described. Are any of you having a similar experience with FF 3.5 and what are you doing about the problems? Well, I'm using FF3.5 here on my G3 running 10.4 and it works OK, though slowly. I have six (!) different browsers for my Mac OS X right now, but the choosen one for everyday surfing is Apple Safari 4. -- MaGioZal. http://twitter.com/magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5] PowerMac G3 wont boot after Tiger effort
On 7/13/09 10:11 AM, Nestamicky at nestami...@gmail.com wrote: On Jul 12, 2009, at 10:37 PM, nburman wrote: It seems something is wrong because it spends 3-4 mins on a black screen, after the chimes. Here's the point that you go 'back to zero'. You open the machine and strip it, until you begin to enjoy it. Take everything out, put it back all in but only put in things that are needed for it to startsuch as ram. And check 'em rams too. Goodluck! And first of all, I would try to install Mac OS 9 on this Mac's HD before any version of Mac OS X. -- MaGioZal. http://magiozal.blogspot.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: PowerMac G3 wont boot after Tiger effort
On 7/13/09 9:59 PM, nburman at nburmandes...@gmail.com wrote: Now my G3 won't chime on startup. Is that a sign of certain death? If it's starting up, it's not dead...;-) -- MaGioZal. http://flickr.com/photos/magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: PowerMac G3 wont boot after Tiger effort
On 7/13/09 5:05 PM, Gus at gusr...@comcast.net wrote: I know I am going to come off sounding ignorant, but how do you remove the buggy ATI Driver out of 10.2.8? Well, it seems like I forgot to put the link...:-P Here it is: http://support.apple.com/kb/TA22360 -- MaGioZal. http://twitter.com/magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Digital Camera Question
On 7/12/09 1:30 AM, Stephen Conrad at khel...@gmail.com wrote: I have a digital camera, Product Number 36956 ($905c), and Macam 0.9.2. Macam doesn't see this camera but Apple System Profiler does see it. How can I see this camera? It has some pics from our most recent storm that I want to share with family and the local news. Have you tried Apple's Image Capure.app? -- MaGioZal. http://flickr.com/photos/magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: PowerMac G3 wont boot after Tiger effort
On 7/10/09 9:11 PM, Nick Burman at nbur...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone know how to make this Mac startup from a CDROM so I can install Jaguar? Hi Nick, Well, I am running here Mac OS 10.4 on a Beige G3 with 512MB RAM, and without graphics card (using the 6MB VRAM motherboard video port). The first time I tried to install 10.4 I'e got similar problems to what you're relating here, but then I tried a different methot and it worked. Here's the recipe: 1. I've partitioned my 80GB Samsung HD in two halves: one with aprox. 7.7GB and other with aprox. 66.7GB; 2. Then I installed Mac OS 9.1 in the 66.7GB partition; 3. I've downloaded XPostFacto and put it at the root of the 7.7GB partition; 4. Then I installed Mac OS 10.2 (the last X release to work natively on Beige G3s) on the 7.7 partition. 5. After going trough all the of 10.2 install process, I've booted trough it and used Softwer Update to install the security updates, the Mac OS 9.2.1, 9.2.2 and Classic Environment updates and the combo 10.2 - 10.2.8 update. 6. Before restarting in 10.2.8, I've removed the buggy ATI Driver ; 7. After rebooting in 10.2.8, I rebooted again in Mac OS 9 holding the Option key after the boot sound; 8. In Mac OS 9, I went to XPostFacto to select the 7.7GB partition to install 10.4 over it, rebooting trough the Mac OS 1.4 Tiger install DVD; 9. *The most important thing*: I've made a DIRTY install of Mac OS 10.4, updating the previous Jaguar folders instead of replacing it. This way, the drivers responsible for controlling hardware aspects sepcifical to your Beige G3 (which aren't present in the 10.4) will be mantained. 10. Voilá! You got a Beige G3 running Tiger smoothly. Now install the Tiger security, Java, QuickTime, iTunes and Safari updates and be happy...;-) -- MaGioZal. http://flickr.com/photos/magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Safari 4.0.2 is available
On 7/10/09 2:07 AM, Dan at dantear...@gmail.com wrote: The reboot failed on 13 out of 18 Macs I just let the installator shut down my computer. Next day, next boot, and everything was fine. -- MaGioZal. http://magiozal.blogspot.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]VideoLan has finally reached version 1.0.0
On 7/7/09 12:02 PM, Len Gerstel at lgers...@gmail.com wrote: VideoLan has released version 1.0.0 of its software, one of the more robust and format inclusive video players for OS X. http://www.videolan.org But it has been crashing when I am tryong to run it here on my Beige G3 with 6MB VRAM onboard video and 512MB RAM...:-/ -- MaGioZal. http://fotolog.com/_magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [OT]: Listers take Notice ==Important notice: GeoCities is closing
On 7/10/09 12:00 AM, Stephen Weber at maryland...@gmail.com wrote: Paul, it depends if they cached them or not, I know some they do and some they don't. I think it depends of the popularity of a page. Anyway, the Wayback Machine is good for one untold feature: you can sometimes find on it archives that aren't online anymore, like drivers or older version of software from defunct companies. -- MaGioZal. http://flickr.com/photos/magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [OT]: Listers take Notice ==Important notice: GeoCities is closing
On 7/9/09 11:02 PM, Peter at peter1...@gmail.com wrote: Pretty old news that GeoCities is closing. You can try Google for free. The fact is that much of the content formely hosted at Geocities can nowadays be put in services like Blogger/Facebook (for text), Picasa/Flickr (for images) and YouTube (for videos). And hosting services for custom-designed websites offer more for less, nowadays. -- MaGioZal. http://twitter.com/magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Return to PowerPC?
On 7/7/09 1:59 AM, tortoise at cymraeg...@gmail.com wrote: It was true back then. Problem was all the old 68k code in the old MacOS. Here's the problem. When Spindler launched the PowerMacs, though icredible velocity was promised, the reality was that the machines were mere slow Quadra emulators that made one or another task more quickly than their predecessors. In fact, many people said the PowerMacs only completely surpassed the performance quality of the Quadras in 1997, when Mac OS 8 was released three years after the last Quadra was produced! The OS-chip harmony just came back in 1997/1998, when the G3s (designed intrernally to work with the Mac OS) substituted the 603s/604s and PowerPC-specific versions of the Mac OS (8.5 and 9) were released. But by that time the old Mac OS was already in the process of being substituted by the Mac OS X, with its completely different archicteture and paradigms. -- MaGioZal. http://magiozal.blogspot.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: Return to PowerPC?
On 7/7/09 1:56 PM, Bruce Johnson at john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: This was a valuable part of Sun to Oracle, (they bought Sun because Oracle is completely dependent on Java now, and has been since the 8i-9 transition, this way they control that bit.) It is strangely funny to remember that back in 1996 we heard that Sun would buy Apple... -- MaGioZal. http://flickr.com/photos/magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: Return to PowerPC?
On 7/7/09 3:57 PM, James E. Therrault at jetas...@worldnet.att.net wrote: Bottom line was the lack of fast low power chips for laptops that ultimately resulted in the switch. Had a low power G5 chip been produced, there would be no Apple Intel today. The other thing that burned the marketing image of IBM-Mororola-Apple was the GHz Chip race. When all the PC market was proudly announcing 1GHz computers, Apple for a relatively long time had to conform to the duo-processed 600MHz Macs. -- MaGioZal. http://flickr.com/photos/magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: Return to PowerPC?
On 7/7/09 1:58 PM, Bruce Johnson at john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: IBM never managed a low power G5, and Moro couldn't get more performance outof the PPC series. Apple (along with all the other PC manufacturers) live and die by their laptop lines, and the inability of either Moto or IBM to deliver low power, high performance chips suited for laptops was strangling Apple there. Well, my next computer will be an Apple notebook -- I'm just waiting for the pre-installed-Snow-Leopard series to be introduced. -- MaGioZal. http://fotolog.com/_magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: Return to PowerPC?
On 7/6/09 2:52 AM, PeterH at peterh5...@rattlebrain.com wrote: On Jul 5, 2009, at 10:27 PM, MaGioZal wrote: The RISC had a lot of promises, but many times hadn't delivered them. It's not the processor, it's the implementation. IBM is making huge quantities of PPC RISCs. Sun is still making its RISCs. Intel's CISCs are doing well. Well, maybe I should write Apple made a lot of promises about the RISC, but didn't delivered many of them. ;-) I remember back in the 90's that in the Spindler era the CISC was accused of being an obsolte chip archicteture which cannot expand well, differently from RISC... -- MaGioZal. http://magiozal.blogspot.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: Hard Drive Limit
On 7/6/09 6:08 PM, pdimage at pdim...@btinternet.com wrote: Never tried OverDrive... I tried to download OverDrive software recently, but the link on the site was down... -- MaGioZal. http://flickr.com/photos/magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Return to PowerPC?
On 7/6/09 2:19 AM, PeterH at peterh5...@rattlebrain.com wrote: However another product which is based upon PPC, or another processor which can make effective use of the power-saving technology which was acquired in that Apple purchase of a PPC company seems likely. And we must admit now: the 1994-2006 PowerPC era was the most turbulent of Apple's history. The RISC had a lot of promises, but many times hadn't delivered them. -- MaGioZal. http://flickr.com/photos/magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: Replacing original processor with upgrade card
On 6/19/09 1:54 PM, Jonas Ulrich at jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: You PAID an apple technician to replace the processor you can get 733 processors on ebay for around 20, and it is the easiest thing to install. How much did you pay the tech guy? OWC processor upgrades are pretty pricey. Question: is there ZIF processor upgardes for Beige G3 still around? -- MaGioZal. http://fotolog.com/_magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: Photo App. suggestion
On 6/19/09 8:16 PM, diane at di...@mathermotorsports.com wrote: I use Photoshop or GraphicConverter for editing I've got GraphicConverter here, and it is one of the few sharewares that I would willingly pay for! -- MaGioZal. http://flickr.com/photos/magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: Photo App. suggestion
On 6/20/09 3:24 AM, Kyle Hansen at pi...@speakeasy.net wrote: I think I have an older copy of Photoshop I could give you. As a runner of Mac OS 10.4, I still use sometimes the old Photoshop 3.0 to make quick, simple image editing. -- MaGioZal. http://magiozal.blogspot.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]USB Need
On 6/17/09 11:20 PM, Stephen Conrad at khel...@gmail.com wrote: Where might I cheaply find such a beast? Wow... Pretty expensive! But it depends on the kind of male conector is needed for your camera. But even considering this I cannot conceive anything beyond a 10-dollar price tag, sincerely. -- MaGioZal. http://twitter.com/magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video
On 6/16/09 1:28 AM, Po-en Tsai at poen.t...@gmail.com wrote: Or, like me, I would switch onto my Panther 10.3 partition, running Firefox 2.04 to watch anything Flash based. It seems to work for me, and Youtube works fine like that. Upgrading ram may help, with my iMac, I had 512mb ram, but upgraded to 768mb, which sped flash up a bit. Well, when I run primairly Mac OS 9 here with Mozilla 1.2.1 and Flash 7, YouTibe videos also ran very badly, too. I am a Beige G3 owner. -- MaGioZal. http://magiozal.blogspot.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: Upgrading an old G3
Hey! I'e forgot an important tip about installing Tiger on G3's that just have the onboard video: BEFORE running XPostFacto and BEFORE running the Toger installer, INSTALL Mac OS Jaguar 10.2, then update to 10.2.8, and then REMOVE the damned ATI driver that does not function well. After these steps, boot into Mac OS 9 and tell XPostFacto to install Tiger on the Jaguar partition. Making things this way, you will never get problems with onboard vide and Tiger. -- MaGioZal. http://fotolog.com/_magiozal/ On 6/14/09 6:58 PM, Kris Tilford at ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: Yes, Tiger can run on this computer with the assistance of XPostFacto 4.0. There are significant issues. She would likely need more RAM, preferably the maximum 768MB (3x 256MB), but she could probably get by with the current 256MB, but low RAM will really churn the HD's use of virtual memory which can lead to HD failure, so getting enough RAM is a high priority. Also, the video may be really slow. The AIO shipped with only 2MB VRAM onboard. There is an optional 4MB stick you can get to bump it up to 6MB, but the OEM Rage video isn't good for Tiger. Ideally, you'd want to add a Radeon video card, but this is VERY DIFFICULT in the AIO and can't be easily accomplished. It's possible that if she was only using minimal email, etc, and didn't mind really slow interface she could possibly upgrade to Tiger as is and have some functionality, but again, from an economic standpoint this isn't a good idea, there are AGP G4's selling for less than the upgrade costs that will run circles around the AIO. G4 Mini's are also very reasonable upgrades in comparison to the AIO. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4
On 6/15/09 12:33 PM, Dan at dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Optimized builds of Camino, SeaMonkey, and Thunderbird are also available on RPM's page. Where's the URL? -- MaGioZal. http://flickr.com/photos/magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: SATA card for a G4 AGP?
On 6/15/09 12:22 PM, Baha Ata at baha...@gmail.com wrote: Sonnet SATA cards... Look to ebay... You may look PCI Sonnet Sata cards... There is some alternatives according to Chipsets but really some other experts may give models (Pc models that work for Apple) for cheaper alternatives. Are the other generic PCI-SATA cards usable and bootable with G3 PCI Macs? -- MaGioZal. http://fotolog.com/_magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: Where can I get a USB port capable of supporting my iPhone G4
On 6/15/09 9:18 PM, Bruce Johnson at john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: and dose anyone know how to install it I just want to make my iphone work with my G4 I have a IOGear USB2 card in my G4; it works just fine. I have a generic NEC-chipped PCI-USB2 card here in my Beige and it works pretty fine, both in Mac OS 9 and X. -- MaGioZal. http://magiozal.blogspot.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4
On 6/15/09 11:27 PM, Dan at dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Where's the URL? See Kris' reply, posted 5 hours ago. Sorry, I read abou it after posting the reply... -- MaGioZal. http://fotolog.com/_magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video
On 6/16/09 1:08 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio at fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: Assuming you need to stick with this machine my first suggestion is to max the RAM. You could also try adjusting caching if at all possible. You may also have virtual memory turned on which I believe may account for the jerkiness. You say it is crappy on any video site. As an experiment put IE5 on it and look for some Windows video. That worked for my old 9600 300 MHz. Well, I'm here on a 266MHz G3 with 512MB of RAM and 10.4, and YouTube is very crappy here -- I can see the video in slow motion mode and an unsynchronized audio, even when the YouTube file is completely buffered/downloaded. Should it be fault of the 6MB VRAM onboard video, too? -- MaGioZal. http://fotolog.com/_magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: USB 2.0 card not recognizing iPod
On 6/16/09 1:13 AM, Clark Martin at cm...@sonic.net wrote: I've heard reports the NEC chipset doesn't have a problem but apparently that isn't (always) the case. MmmmŠ wird. My G3 here also sleeps well. Better than me, in fact...:-P -- MaGioZal. http://fotolog.com/_magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: USB 2.0 card not recognizing iPod
On 6/16/09 1:44 AM, Clark Martin at cm...@sonic.net wrote: Beige G3s and BWs don't sleep. What? But what happens when I hit the choice sleep trough the power buuton of the keyboard? -- MaGioZal. http://flickr.com/photos/magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video
On 6/16/09 2:46 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio at fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: Because you fully download before playing I assume your connection is perhaps dial-up. No, it isn't -- it's a slow, 256kbps cable-modem connection... Will the machine accept a full Gig of RAM? Close to this -- 768MB of RAM. But 233 MHz may be just too overworked. Unless the files are quite small. In fact, the velocity of my G3's processor is 266MHz. -- MaGioZal. http://twitter.com/magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: Safari 4.0
On 6/14/09 1:47 PM, tonycd at tonyl...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Do I remember correctly that Safari 4 and Camino use a similar underlying engine? No... Camino uses the same engine as Firefox, but its interface and some resources are Cocoa-based. Safari uses the engine of Linux browser Konqueror. -- MaGioZal, chilling in São Paulo winter. http://magiozal.blogspot.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Upgrading an old G3
On 6/14/09 6:37 PM, Linda at graphics...@columbus.rr.com wrote: my sister has an all in one G3. She would like to use verizon's USB wireless system for her internet access but it requires at least Tiger to be installed. I know she has 256 mb of ram and about 38G of hard drive space with 600 mhz. This computer is lightly used. Will Tiger run on this computer? Will run, but trough XPostFacto. I am running Tiger here in a 266MHz, 512MB RAM Beige G3. About the HD space, yours is fine for the instalation. But I suppose that you already know that the G3 must have a USB card, don't you? -- MaGioZal. http://magiozal.blogspot.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: Upgrading an old G3
On 6/14/09 6:41 PM, Phill Stroud at phill.str...@o2.co.uk wrote: Yes tiger would run I run it on my g3 snowy 60mhz and 256mb ram. Runs a treat!! Maybe more RAM can do the trick. My Beige has a processor less than half of the speed of an iMac Snow's processor and runs Tiger quite decently. -- MaGioZal. http://magiozal.blogspot.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: The powerpc now and in the future....
On 6/11/09 4:32 PM, Kris Tilford at ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Jun 11, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Dan wrote: As emulators go, Rosetta - the black box that makes PPC stuff run on x86 Macs - is pretty good. Now we need the opposite emulator, the one that will allow future Intel x86 only code to run on our PPC Macs. I doubt this will ever exist, but it would certainly be welcomed. Well, the Macintosh is no stranger to CISC/x86 emulation! CISC emulation was already present in the PowerPC/Classic Mac OS era in order to run Motorola 68k applications. And x86 emulation was used on Windows-emulation programs like VirtualPC. -- MaGioZal. http://flickr.com/photos/magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: Safari 4.0
On 6/13/09 3:09 PM, insightinmind at billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: I noticed that, too. And the Firefox Mac interace eats up a sizeable part of display real estate, too, mainly if you're in 1024x768. -- MaGioZal. http://fotolog.com/_magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: Top Posting (read up)
On 6/13/09 8:11 AM, Peter at peter1...@gmail.com wrote: Some time ago (last year, I believe) it was established here on the list that top posting was ok. I can remember the that it was a lengthy discussion. Now we have changed that again and went back to bottom posting only? I think top posting, mainly if the reply is not so long, is not an evil nowadays. But I think that for the sake of undersanting in a thread, the quoting marks must be respected (I say this because many times HTML-enabled mailers don't respect quoting order). -- MaGioZal. http://magiozal.blogspot.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]A polite netiquette back and forth
On 6/13/09 8:21 PM, Kyle Hansen at pi...@speakeasy.net wrote: Even more trimming the text to just the relevant information is of great benefit. I think trimming before replying any e-mail is a fundamental lesson. Non-trimming should be used only in special cases. I subscribe two another high-traffic mailing lists that do permit HTML, attachments and whose users are not used to trim before replying. Sometimes, mainly in long threads, I feel like in an internet hell... -- MaGioZal. http://magiozal.blogspot.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: It is official, we are orphans.
On 6/8/09 9:45 PM, Vic at vma...@gmail.com wrote: W! I can't run System 7 on my Intel iMac! Damn Apple! Sure you can -- try Basilisk... Well, I've just got the brand-new Safari 4 running on my old Beige G3 Mac. I felt a little less orphan...;-D -- MaGioZal. http://twitter.com/magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: lba48 Support in a Yikes!?
On 6/6/09 1:47 AM, PeterH at peterh5...@rattlebrain.com wrote: And, as I have the patch on the machine, I have removed High Cap from the three other MacOSes which I support on this DA: 10.4.11, 10.3.9 Server and 10.3.9. Do those tricks work on Beige G3 Macs with 10.4 installed via XPostFacto? -- MaGioZal. http://flickr.com/photos/magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: Can Camino bookmarks be exported into Safari 4?
On 5/31/09 10:51 PM, Ernest L. Gunerius at er...@comcast.net wrote: Tony; Try exporting from Camino to Safari. Open Safari and Camino. In Camino Chose File/Export. Chose Safari in the Where Box and Safari in the Format Box. Click Export. Then shutdown and restart Safari. This works in Safari 4 and Camino 1.6.6 I do miss the time when, back in Mac OS 9, I just had one bookmark .HTML file which was automatically syncronized with all browsers trough aliases... -- MaGioZal. http://magiozal.blogspot.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11
On 5/28/09 3:45 PM, dc at dbc...@verizon.net wrote: I ran Monolingual to get rid of all unneeded languages and also the G3 Intel architechtures Where can I get this program? Is it free? Does it work under 10.4? I¹m asking this because sometimes I feel a little squeezed on a 7.7GB partition (I¹ve got a Beige G3). -- MaGioZal. http://twitter.com/magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: Safari 4 bloat
On 5/28/09 11:36 PM, Kris Tilford at ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On my main computer (G5), Safari 4 has over 2.6 GB of webpage preview cache files (meaning, it's saving every single page viewed as long as there's room). This is wrong, let's hope it's a beta known issue they're going to repair? It's because of those things that I still use the 3.x version...;-) -- MaGioZal. http://magiozal.blogspot.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Another swapping app question
On 5/26/09 11:03 AM, Joseph Getchel at jgetc...@wi.rr.com wrote: I use Entourage as my email application. However, whenever I click on a mailto:; link on a website, mail.app opens instead of Entourage. I searched the previously mentioned plist Well, there is a simple way: go to the Preferences from Entourage and set it as the default e-mail application. -- MaGioZal. http://flickr.com/photos/magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: Mac OS 9 Booting in X Only G4 Macs, using firmware tweaks
On 5/22/09 4:00 AM, Kris Tilford at ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: Remember, all this newer hardware IS supported for OS 9 under Classic emulation. If you need OS 9, use Classic, or get a Mac that can boot OS 9. The problem is that Classic emulation does not function with 10.5 or the intel Macs... -- MaGioZal. http://fotolog.com/_magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Mac OS 9 Booting in X Only G4 Macs, using firmware tweaks
On 5/22/09 2:39 AM, Mullin9 at ddavidmul...@inbox.com wrote: Is there's a way to boot the X Only G4 Macs, Using Mac OS 9, using firmware tweaks MacRISC2 = OS 9 bootable MacRISC3 = OS X only bootable Link is http://www.opensource.apple.com/source/AppleMacRISC2PE/AppleMacRISC2PE-180.0.1 2/MacRISC2.cpp Link is http://www.apple.com/publicsource 1. How to use the file in the link? 2. Does this trick work on PPCs that weren't made to boot in Mac OS 9, like the G5 and the Mini? -- MaGioZal. http://fotolog.com/_magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]iMac G3 500 or G4 Powermac 400?
On 5/22/09 1:10 AM, Po-en Tsai at poen.t...@gmail.com wrote: I have a choice from my school for a iMac G3 Indigo Slot Load 500Mhz OR a G4 Powermac 400Mhz DVD free. Which one do you think is better, performance wise, and more reliable? And can you upgrade the graphics in the Powermac G4? Get the G4. Reasons: 3 PCI slots, CRT-free, easiness to get DVD-Drives. ;-) -- MaGioZal. http://fotolog.com/_magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]RE: USB Hub versus PCI Card?
On 5/18/09 1:50 PM, Mac G4 at g4mac...@hotmail.com wrote: So this has wildly gone in a direction that I don't have a need (or probably a care) for. Does anyone have some recommendations for a PCI USB card that will work in a G4 MDD running 10.4.11? I'm using here a 3-bus, 5 (plus 1 internal)-port USB 2.0 PCI card with a central NEC processor chip. It workd pretty fine in Mac OS 9 (it works like a USB 1.1 card) and in Mac OS X (where it works with is full USB 2.0 capacity). -- MaGioZal @ São Paulo, Brazil. http://magiozal.blogspot.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
