Anybody use loudhush
I'm trying with limited brain capacity to figure out how to get this voip service to work and could use some help? anybody use Loudhush? Thanks, Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Mail.app backup?
Ok, I don't really understand why apple can come up with a simple Back-up iCal, or Export - Address book archive but can't do the same for mail?? I need a simple back up strategy for mail? how to do it now. Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mail.app backup?
On Aug 17, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Aug 17, 2009, at 12:56 PM, MacGuy wrote: Ok, I don't really understand why apple can come up with a simple Back-up iCal, or Export - Address book archive but can't do the same for mail?? I need a simple back up strategy for mail? how to do it now. Jeff I was under the impression that this is what the 'Archive' option in the Mailbox menu did. From Apple's help menu: (this is Mail v 3.6 in OS 10.5) Archiving mailboxes You can archive (create a backup copy) of a mailbox so you can retrieve messages if needed. To archive a mailbox: 1) Select one or more mailboxes to archive. Shift-click to select mailboxes that are next to each other in the list, or Command-click to select mailboxes that are not next to one another. 2) Choose Mailbox Archive Mailbox, or choose Archive Mailbox from the Action pop-up menu (looks like a gear) at the bottom of the sidebar. 3)Choose a folder or create a new folder where you want to store the archives, and then click Choose. Mail archives the mailboxes as .mbox packages. If you’ve already archived a mailbox, Mail does not overwrite the existing file but appends a number to the filename to create a new version of it. Otherwise, my iCal, AddressBook, and Mail all get backed up automatically along with the rest of my data with Time Machine or Carbon Copy Cloner. I'll only use the in-application backup utilities for exporting my data, not backing it up. -- Bruce, thanks for the info... I usually use CCC for all backups, but alas, it's time to nuke Pave (years of goo) Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
WTB: G5 airport T antenna, Airport extreme card, Leopard retail DVD
Subject says all... Let me know what you've got and how much incl. shipping. Thanks, Jeff Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Rumor: Snow Leopard to support PPC !!
On Aug 13, 2009, at 4:09 PM, Nikki Wraith wrote: Don't hold your breath. PowerPC is dead, as far as Apple is concerned. The day after that article was posted - June 8th - at wwdc it was announced 10.6 is intel o ly. Yes, power PC is dead BUT, the powermac G5 that I JUST bought is going to give me (knock on wood) years of great mac times ahead.. at least till the mac pro's are within my reach:-) Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
5ghz 802.11n pci-x card, is there such thing?
I've looked what seems far and wide to find an N pci card that has a frequency range of 5ghz? Has anybody had any luck finding one? Most or all the cards I've seen are all 2.4ghz. TIA, Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Disk specific / Install specific?
here's the question We all know that the grey disks that come with each particular new mac are machine specific BUT once installed, is that installation still bound to that particular mac or can the hard drive theoretically be installed into any other mac that supports it and booted from it without problems? I have a 10.5.8 install/backup sata hd (CCC) that was made on a new mac mini I need to install it into my G5 tower (and boot from it). Can this be done? Jeff Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Disk specific / Install specific?
On Aug 10, 2009, at 4:46 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Aug 10, 2009, at 4:04 PM, MacGuy wrote: here's the question We all know that the grey disks that come with each particular new mac are machine specific BUT once installed, is that installation still bound to that particular mac or can the hard drive theoretically be installed into any other mac that supports it and booted from it without problems? Yes, but that key bit is 'that supports it' is the issue here. I have a 10.5.8 install/backup sata hd (CCC) that was made on a new mac mini I need to install it into my G5 tower (and boot from it). Can this be done? Jeff Probably not.Much of OSX is universal, but, for example, the expected boot partition scheme for PPC and Intel Macs are different. Generally speaking, if you go from PPC to PPC and Intel to Intel, your idea would work, but I really doubt it would work Intel to PPC. You cannot harm anything by trying, though. It will just not work if it won't work. Next question... can I use migration assistant to bring all personal files/folders/mail/music etc. from the intel to PPC? Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Any hope for my G5 tower?
On Jul 22, 2009, at 4:02 PM, Clark Martin wrote: Peter Kim wrote: I left for the weekend, and returned to find out that the power transformer across the street had exploded while I was away. My DP G5 2Ghz(early 2005), was in sleep mode at the time. When I pressed the power button, the tower booted and worked fine- until the next day, when it suddenly went black. The power supply tested okay with a voltmeter. I've tried pulling ram, disconnecting drives, video card, processors. It will power most of the time, but won't bong/post. The one difference is when I pulled a processor, I pressed the power button, and did not get power. I know it is not supposed to do this. Any insight, suggestions appreciated. Get it repaired and bill the power company. Seriously. Or get a UPS. Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
SOLVED? Re: sata 2.5 plugged into a 3.5 sata enclosure?
On Jun 24, 2009, at 7:23 AM, John Martz wrote: On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Ralph Greensfrea...@sbcglobal.net wrote: As Peter said, the connectors for 2.5 and 3.5 SATA drives are the same. But, the power draw is almost always a lot more on the 3.5 drives. A single USB port can supply 2.5 watts(.5 amps at 5V). My understanding when I read Jeff's note was that his enclosure was powered from an external 5v 12v AC-DC power supply, not from the USB port. What was confusing to me about Jeff's situation is that apparently the 2.5 drive worked with USB (and I assumed also with eSATA ... though he may not have checked this). However, when he put the 3.5 drive into the enclosure it did not work with USB but it *did* work via eSATA. If it was strictly an enclosure power supply issue then I would expect the 3.5 drive to never work in the enclosure. Or USB to not work for either drive. I can't come up with a good rational for why the 3.5 drive would work with eSATA but *not* work with USB, other than possibly the 3.5 drive exceeded some GB capacity limit of the SATA-USB adapter/converter?? Oh, well. Maybe it's gremlins? Makes as much sense to me as anything else at this point. -irrational john Or maybe it's simply that I used the wrong cord (from wall to power supply?)... yes, it now works. Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
iMac G5 won't start up?
Serial# W844655LPP8 iMac G5/20/1.8GHz/256/160hd/SD/56k When I push the power button to turn it on, I get a light for approx. 1/2 second then all goes dead. nothing on the screen, no noise... completely turns itself off. Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
iMac G5 won't start up? ANSWERED
Dead power supply according to apple service source. Serial# W844655LPP8 iMac G5/20/1.8GHz/256/160hd/SD/56k When I push the power button to turn it on, I get a light for approx. 1/2 second then all goes dead. nothing on the screen, no noise... completely turns itself off. Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
stream requires windows media player?
Ok, here's the problem: There's a really cool radio station online that I like... I go to the website and it says I need windows media player to listen to the streaming radio station, right? And this radio plays fine if I use my browser (Safari) to play it in. BUT, when I try to add the station URL to iTunes : http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/Adding_Internet_Radio_Station_to_iTunes/ Then it will not play/stream the station? do I need a plugin for itunes to make this play? some kind of windows media plugin? Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: stream requires windows media player?
On Jul 1, 2009, at 10:14 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 5:36 PM, MacGuymacgu...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, here's the problem: There's a really cool radio station online that I like... Pandora will play anything you like and let you program it too. Is it better than that? Pandora will work on any browser. Pandora's good, but the streams are 64k (I think) and mono also, the station that I like is a Christian radio station that has not only music, but teaching/preaching etc. and it's a 128k stream. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
sata 2.5 plugged into a 3.5 sata enclosure?
ok, got this 2.5 sata drive plugged into this 3.5 enclosure... question: can the power supplied to the 3.5 enclosure be too much for this 2.5 drive? (what I'm doing is testing the enclosure to see if it's good, and the only drive I have to use is a 2.5 sata drive from a mac mini). Jeff Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com PowerMac G4 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: sata 2.5 plugged into a 3.5 sata enclosure?
On Jun 22, 2009, at 11:14 AM, John Martz wrote: On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Bruce Johnsonjohn...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: No. So long as you can connect them (and both 2.5 and 3.5 drives require the same voltages) things should work out fine. I don't know how pertinent to this thread this is, but I'm not positive they use the same voltages. I agree that since both 2.5 3.5 drives use the same connector then the same voltages should be *supplied* to the drive. However, I don't know how they could pull off the trick of powering a 2.5 drive from a USB connector unless the 2.5 drives required anything other than 5v. I've always assumed that the 2.5 drives simply ignored the 12v power line in the connector (and probably also the 3.3v ... as apparently most (all?) of the 3.5 drives do in order to allow them to be powered via a 5v 12v 4-pin molex connector plugged into a SATA power connector adapter). I hate it when manufacturers take shortcuts and don't fully implement a spec. But it's a fact of life that they do this when everbody knows it will work. It wouldn't surprise me at all if the 12v (and 3.3v) pins on most laptop supplies were open. Sorry to view off point so far. -irrational john Well after plugging the 2.5 into the I/O board and the power supply, the 2.5 booted and ran fine. However when the 3.5 drive was used, it wouldn't even mount on the desktop? This icydock enclosure has always given me grief when it was hooked up via USB... it would unmount itself after 3 mins or less time plugged/ mounted on the desktop? This must be a power supply issue then... wonder where to get another power supply for it? I hate to chuck it in the trash Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: sata 2.5 plugged into a 3.5 sata enclosure?
On Jun 22, 2009, at 4:08 PM, insightinmind wrote: I guess I should have also asked ... how did you know the 2.5 drive was working? Did it mount on your desktop? and was that through the USB? Did you decide the 2.5 and 3.5 both required the same voltage? If all true, it sounds more like the 3.5 drive is bad. Have you tried the 3.5 drive elsewhere? (apologies if you state this earlier in the thread). 2.5 mounted on the desktop via USB, I booted from a leopard volume on it..all looked ok. Then I connected the 3.5 (which works perfectly in several other macs/ and enclosures) and it would not even mount. The drive would spin up light comes on, that's it. I looked at reviews of this particular icydock enclosure and other people had power issues as well... strange... don't think I'll be buying another one of these. I am open to other good quality enclosures.. John Martz As for the one I'm having troubles with: http://www.icydock.com/product/mb664us-1s.html It has esata.. and funny that you'd ask, yes it worked great via esata connection. And lastly, no, it's not under warranty. Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: sata 2.5 plugged into a 3.5 sata enclosure?
On Jun 22, 2009, at 4:35 PM, insightinmind wrote: On Jun 22, 2009, at 7:23 PM, MacGuy wrote: On Jun 22, 2009, at 4:08 PM, insightinmind wrote: Have you tried the 3.5 drive elsewhere? (apologies if you state this earlier in the thread). 2.5 mounted on the desktop via USB, I booted from a leopard volume on it..all looked ok. Then I connected the 3.5 (which works perfectly in several other macs/ and enclosures) and it would not even mount. The drive would spin up light comes on, that's it. About boot-a-bility of external USB drives ... is that OS X (Leopard vrs Tiger) dependent in any way? I thought I read somewhere that USB 2 bootable became good (or was that became flaky?) under Leopard, and was not good under Tiger. If so, what OS were you trying to boot from on the 3.5 drive? I'll stop here ... I'm using an intel-based mini for the booting of that usb connected enclosure (all the intel based macs boot from usb without issues) I don't believe that PPC macs ever did. Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: sata 2.5 plugged into a 3.5 sata enclosure?
On Jun 22, 2009, at 4:55 PM, John Martz wrote: As for the one I'm having troubles with: http://www.icydock.com/product/mb664us-1s.html It has esata.. and funny that you'd ask, yes it worked great via esata connection. And lastly, no, it's not under warranty. Jeff OK, I'm stumped and am now waiting for someone else to post the obvious explanation which is escaping me. If the 2.5 drive works with USB, then I would think there is no problem with USB. In other words, I'd expect the SATA-USB logic to either work or not work. But if the 3.5 drive works with eSATA, then I would assume there is no problem with the power supply provided by the enclosure to the drive. So why wouldn't the 3.5 drive *also* work with USB? Is there a big difference between the capacities of the two drives? (Maybe there USB has a capacity limit?) Was the 3.5 drive partitioned formatted? Did you try more than one USB connector or connecting to another computer? Sorry, I realize that these questions aren't that helpful, but I've got nothing else. :-( -irrational john Hey john... what's your number, I'll call ya or you me at 208-935-0992, Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: A polite netiquette back and forth
On Jun 13, 2009, at 8:13 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: Dingbat!! Plain text, plain text, plain text, plain text. Oh, that was delicious! :-) Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Creating temporary File?
I've never used the empty free space option when zeroing my hard drive in disk utility yet. So, when the Creating temporary file comes up in the progression of the emptying process, what exactly does that mean, creating temporary file? I thought I was zeroing out the free space? Jeff Kamiah, Idaho 83536 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: DVD/CD master?
On May 26, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On May 26, 2009, at 1:05 PM, MacGuy wrote: On May 26, 2009, at 12:47 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: I think you're using mistaken terminology? You'll have to excuse my lack of knowledge when it comes to terms Kris, yes, your right.. these discs are from non-copyrighted material ... also, for some reason, the .dmg's that I've stored on my hard drive months ago that used to launch dvd player don't want to do it now? make sense? Yes, this means the issue is DVD PLayer not autolaunching, not that something's wrong with the disk image. You can try deleting the DVD Player prefs. That might fix this. Or just select the disk after manually starting DVD player. Ok, time to start over I went to walmart and they made a DVD of some great old camping video's the folks had taken years ago. (obviously not protected in any way) now, I need to make .dmg files that I can simply burn to a blank DVD when I want to, to give to family and friends to watch on a standard DVD player (because they don't all have computers) Now... I want those nice .dmg files saved on my computer for convenience as well as backup purposes. These .dmg files should if double clicked on should automatically launch the DVD player application if they're made correctly as I've done this before in the past Kris said: You may have made a DVD of the .dmg file instead of burning the image of the .dmg onto a DVD. To burn an image file, you'll need to drag the .dmg into the left column of Disk Utility under the HD icons, then highlight the .dmg icon and press the Burn button in the upper left corner. I suspect your DVD's have a data file of the disk image on them? I also made this mistake the first time I tried to burn a DVD. I haven't done this again, mistakes are a quick teacher. I've followed these instructions to the letter I did notice that when the file is made it's not a .dmg file but instead a .cdr file. For some reason none of the files I make will launch dvd player... go figure. (even when I use my Guest account) I'm clearly missing something here --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
DVD/CD master?
I just made several what I thought were bootable dvd .dmg's in disk utility and for some reason they won't launch dvd player? I set the image format to: DVD/CD master and they all simply mount to the desktop, but dvd player does not automatically come up? what did I do wrong? I also tried it with a new tiger test volume, and no dice... strange. Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: DVD/CD master?
On May 26, 2009, at 12:47 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: You'll also need to be sure that if the video format is correct (mpg2) that DVD Player is the default application. If the original DVD plays in DVD player , when I make the disk image from it, it should already be mpeg2 right? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: DVD/CD master?
On May 26, 2009, at 1:12 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: Can you manually play them in DVD Player by using DVD Player's Open DVD Media... command under the File menu? If not, do they play in VLC? If they won't play in VLC, they're likely not playable for some reason. Yes, they play fine if I do as you've stated above. Both in VLC and DVD player. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firewire webcam solution?
On May 24, 2009, at 10:50 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: I believe what you're asking is something much simpler than pass- thru, I believe you're just wanting to use the camcorder as a webcam without recording the session? Yup, this is what I need I'm looking to improve on the old isight experience if I can. I did a bunch of google searching yesterday looking for a plug and play solution. Or simply put, a camcorder that will work for a webcam in Leopard and do a better job than an Isight camera. Can you help me by giving me a make/model that would be sweet (and cheap, say 150 bucks?) Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Anybody used one of these?
VANTEC UGT-ST300 2-Port eSATA II-150 PCI Host Card The link: mwave.com: VANTEC UGT-ST300 2-Port eSATA II-150 PCI Host Card Wonder if it'll work ok in my mdd? Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: How do I evaluate which UPS for my office?
On Apr 27, 2009, at 1:40 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: APC's SmartUPS ones are the most expensive, but give you the best protection. One SmartUPS 1000 or 1200 may run you $400-$500, but it will protect all your computers. These have active voltage regulation. I have a 1200 smartups and a 1100 smatups... I like to use one for my desktop system (MDD 1.25 Samsung lcd 24 monitor) and the other one for macs I'm working on and external stuff. I bought them both brand new in sealed box with full warranty on ebay for around 125-165 each. They are really great units and the batteries are cheap on ebay as well (35 plus shipping). Just my personal experience. What I find most amazing is how folks will spend upwards of 2000 on a new apple desktop but won't even consider UPS protection for a miniscule fraction of that? go figure but to each his own. Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Never for this website
My wife when entering user/password for our bank website accidentally pushed the Never for this website button instead of the other button she should've pushed... Q: how to undo that little mishap? Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: How do I get a remote computer without Wirelss inputs
why not just get an Airport Extreme card? J On Apr 22, 2009, at 8:49 AM, andre stark wrote: Hello all. I recently bought a 1.5 Hz emac for my son and wanted to put it on our network,.Since the cable modem is on the first floor and his room is on the third' any suggestions for a wireless crossover to get him on the network. I bought one that said it was mac compatible b ut it was not Sincerely, André Stark President BlackShark Films Inc. 23 Chilton Park Milton, MA 02186 617-298-1591 (o) 857-544-3783(c) (360) 242-7648(f) http://www.blacksharkfilms.com blacksharkfi...@yahoo.com --- On Wed, 4/22/09, Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com wrote: From: Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com Subject: Re: How do I turn a Power Mac G5 into a server To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, April 22, 2009, 11:06 AM On Apr 22, 2009, at 10:55 AM, jensid wrote: On Apr 22, 10:38 am, Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com wrote: Any SATA 3.5 HD will work in your G5. They have recently released a 2TB drive, iirc. Is Western Digital or Seagate better? Which way is the wind blowing where you live? I USUALLY have gone with Seagates, all else (Price, capacity, speed) being equal. However, Seagate recently reduced the warrantee on OEM and consumer level drives and had a batch of 750GB (and 500GB iirc) drives that were released with bad firmware. Some people swear by a particular vendor and model, and other people swear at the same vendor and model. Unless you are going to spend the money on an Enterprise class drive, most any consumer grade drive from any vendor will suffice for your needs. Just keep your backups current. Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Rear hd bay empty gets hot?
Anybody experience this before? I've got an MDD with the rear hard drive bay removed. Will that make the cpu run hotter? I guess I'll put some drives back in there just for plugs and see if it makes a difference. I think the factory assumes that drives will be installed there first due to the higher ATA 100 connector. Jeff Engle Kamiah Idaho 83536 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Fan connectors?
On my logic board, there is 3 fan connectors... one of which is being used by the main cpu fan. Question: are all three fan connectors the same? They are all 2 pin connectors, I was wondering if they are all temp controlled? something else... the fan connector that's right by the airport card is identified in the service source manual as a external fan connector... wonder what that goes to? Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Formatting a 1tb Hard disk?
I installed a sonnet pci sata controller in my MDD.. then installed a 1TB hard disk in the hard drive bay with appropriate power and data cables. I then start up the MDD and disk utility to format the new drive. Choose Apple Partition Map with one large partition freezes up disk utility... (disk utility not responding)... tried several times, what am I doing wrong? Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MDD - can I boot from any hard drive?
On Apr 12, 2009, at 8:33 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Apr 12, 2009, at 10:21 PM, MacGuy wrote: Here's my problem, when I use CCC, for some reason it sees this particular drive as not formatted right (Mac OS Extended (Journaled)) when I know for positive that it is? Mac OS Extended (Journaled) is a file system. When is says it's not formatted right, it's talking about the partition system which can be: Apple Partition Scheme (for PPC Macs with Open Firmware); GUID Partition Scheme (for Intel Macs with EFI); Master Boot Record (for PCs with BIOS). It's likely your HD was formatted as Master Boot Record which is the default for new HDs, and you forgot to reformat it before installing the file system HFS+ (journaled). That stupid options button! where you select GUID, Master Boot Record or Apple Partition map. it's those little things that get you in the end!! LOL, Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
MDD - can I boot from any hard drive?
If i have OS on every hard drive inside my MDD, can I boot from them all (separately of course).. just wondering if the mdd only allows for system booting from certain ATA connectors? Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MDD - can I boot from any hard drive?
On Apr 12, 2009, at 6:48 PM, Ken Daggett wrote: On 12 Apr 2009, at 18:04:57 PDT, MacGuy wrote: If i have OS on every hard drive inside my MDD, can I boot from them all (separately of course).. just wondering if the mdd only allows for system booting from certain ATA connectors? Jeff -- Boot while holding the OPTION key. See which Systems are shown. You should be able to boot from any that show up. Here's my problem, when I use CCC, for some reason it sees this particular drive as not formatted right (Mac OS Extended (Journaled)) when I know for positive that it is? and it will not make that volume bootable untill CCC say's it is? does that make sense? J --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Cable routing in MDD
Getting this sata controller card has left me with one question however... where to rout these sata cables? is there a good, better, best way to rout them to the hard drive carriers? can I rout them under the motherboard around the edge without problems? Jeff Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Keep Using SuperDuper or Switch To TimeMachine?
On Apr 8, 2009, at 12:42 PM, aussieshepsrock wrote: Hello, G4 1.37ghz 768mb/120g with recent upgrade to 10.4.6 from 10.4.11. I was using Superduper to keep this, my father's computer, backed up on a 100gig partition on an external firewire drive (with a seperate partition) holding the superdupe clone of my Mini's Internal HD which I run 10.4.11 on. I've never ever touched, seen, or used Timemachine before, but have a year or two of trust and experience with SuperDuper. Should I stick with that or give TimeMachine the job? Can it use a drive physically smaller than the internal drive in his G4? His drive has less than 40gig used and I know SuperDuper is OK with smaller drives holding the dupe of the original, but larger drive. The backup is kept 'offline' completely unplugged from anything unless being updated or 'rescuing' a problem situation. Does this influence TimeMachine's usability? I run SuperDuper on a manual basis on a fairly regular basis and my father backs up his snapshots from iphoto regularly on his own. Does anyone have an opinion on these issues? Thanks Richard Super duper or carbon copy cloner. I like these better because they create bootable backups and I think they're more stable. Just my opinion. Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Wacom now what?
I just got a new wacom tablet and I'm looking for a very simple program (free would be nice) for drawing line drawings. any ideas? Jeff Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: List Nanny
what thread are we referring to? On Apr 6, 2009, at 5:54 AM, Norm Rowe wrote: I think this political Reaganomics proved what every farmer knows: The only thing that trickles down is fertilizer! Please stop this s**t! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Safari 4 beta Problems still?
been waiting to download the Safari 4 beta till all the bugs are out (or most of them) anything I need to know before download/install? Thanks, Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari 4 beta Problems still?
On Apr 6, 2009, at 8:19 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Apr 6, 2009, at 9:46 PM, MacGuy wrote: Safari 4 beta Problems still? What problems? Kris, I asked a question... so I'm assuming by your answer, that you're not having problems with Safari 4 beta. This is good. Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
tempurature of cpu in 10.3?
is there a way to see what the temp is on the cpu in 10.3 (panther) without downloading a third party software? Jeff Jeff Engle Kamiah, Id 83536 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
download .pdf instead of open in Safari?
Is there a keyboard short cut that would send the .pdf to the download window instead of opening it in safari (the default action)? Thanks, Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
PROBLEM SOLVED download .pdf instead of open in Safari?
Is there a keyboard short cut that would send the .pdf to the download window instead of opening it in safari (the default action)? Thanks, Jeff Option key while clicking the link... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
dvd to dvd is there a simple way?
I have a homemade dvd of camp-out movies that my folks took years ago and put them on a dvd. I need to make copies for my brother and sisters. I've tried dragging the video-ts folder to the blank disk and burning it, but it won't play in a standard dvd player? I used to do it in toast but sold the program months ago. Is there a way to do this in the finder using disk utility? Thanks in advance. Jeff Jeff Engle kamiah idaho 83536 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: dvd to dvd is there a simple way?
THANKS ISAAC!! On Mar 25, 2009, at 2:44 PM, Isaac Smith wrote: I have a homemade dvd of camp-out movies that my folks took years ago and put them on a dvd. I need to make copies for my brother and sisters. I've tried dragging the video-ts folder to the blank disk and burning it, but it won't play in a standard dvd player? I used to do it in toast but sold the program months ago. Is there a way to do this in the finder using disk utility? Thanks in advance. Jeff Jeff Engle kamiah idaho 83536 Yes, there is, and it's pretty easy. First, you need to open up Disk Utility. On the left sidebar, you'll see your devices list. Select the DVD you want to make a copy of, and then go to File New... Disk Image from your device name. Change Image Format to DVD/CD Master, and leave Encryption on none. Pick an appropriate location to save. Once you've done that and it finishes creating your disk image, you can right-click it or control-click it in Finder and open it up in Disk Utility, or go to File Open Disk Image. This may mount it, but it will also place it in the left sidebar of Disk Utility. Once it's there, you can select it, and click Burn on the top of the Disk Utility window. Then burn as many copies as you want. I hope that helps! Isaac --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: dvd to dvd is there a simple way?
On Mar 25, 2009, at 3:15 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Mar 25, 2009, at 4:44 PM, Isaac Smith wrote: Yes, there is, and it's pretty easy. First, you need to open up Disk Utility. On the left sidebar, you'll see your devices list. Select the DVD you want to make a copy of, and then go to File New... Disk Image from your device name. Change Image Format to DVD/CD Master, and leave Encryption on none. Pick an appropriate location to save. Once you've done that and it finishes creating your disk image, you can right-click it or control-click it in Finder and open it up in Disk Utility, or go to File Open Disk Image. This may mount it, but it will also place it in the left sidebar of Disk Utility. Once it's there, you can select it, and click Burn on the top of the Disk Utility window. Then burn as many copies as you want. Can't he just highlight the mounted DVD and press the Burn button without making the Image file? I think you need two optical drives (one being a superdrive) to do it that way? hmm.. Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: dvd to dvd is there a simple way?
On Mar 25, 2009, at 7:33 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Mar 25, 2009, at 5:23 PM, Isaac Smith wrote: Can't he just highlight the mounted DVD and press the Burn button without making the Image file? Only if he has two drives. Otherwise, I think you need the image file. Duh. I knew I forgot something! I'm glad I have external DVD-R units and have never had to do this rigmarole for a copy. Copies with a single drive would be a pain. An alternate solution would be fire up another Mac in Target Disk mode and use the Firewire cable to use the other Macs drive for dual drive direct copies. By the way, whenever I've needed an image of any disk, I've always been skeptical of Disk Utility and other programs because they used to screw up images of bootable Mac installer CDs and DVDs so that copies made from these images were not bootable. I guess they may be better now, but I always used Terminal command line to create perfect, bootable .iso images of virtually anything. It's a bit-for-bit copy, with any DRM, or hidden anti-copy stuff still present. See: http://www.slashdotdash.net/2006/08/14/create-iso-cd-dvd-image-with-mac-os-x-tiger-10-4/ Kris, will the directions on the website work in Leopard too? Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: White MacBook Purchase?
On Mar 16, 2009, at 10:51 PM, jonas ulrich wrote: I would almost go for a later powerbook I second that notion. Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Power supply tester
Would this little guy work for Apple OEM power supplies? and if not, anybody seen one out there for macs? http://www.directron.com/pst03.html#caption Jeff Engle Kamiah Idaho 83536 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Power supply tester
I have one, and I've tested power supplies with it. I was just wondering if there was anything out there that made a slow job a bit quicker... and yes, I'm still learning how to use it. :-) Jeff On Mar 17, 2009, at 6:43 PM, Wm. Arnold wrote: Hi Jeff, I have been in the electronic service business since 1954 in my judgment, you should buy a Volt-ohm-milliamp meter learn how to use it. It will be a lot more versatile. Regards Wm. --- On Tue, 3/17/09, MacGuy macgu...@gmail.com wrote: From: MacGuy macgu...@gmail.com Subject: Power supply tester To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 9:29 PM Would this little guy work for Apple OEM power supplies? and if not, anybody seen one out there for macs? http://www.directron.com/pst03.html#caption Jeff Engle Kamiah Idaho 83536 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Power supply tester
On Mar 17, 2009, at 9:50 PM, Ernest L. Gunerius wrote: Hi Jeff, I have been in the electronic service business since 1954 in my judgment, you should buy a Volt-ohm-milliamp meter learn how to use it. It will be a lot more versatile. Regards Wm. --- On Tue, 3/17/09, MacGuy macgu...@gmail.com wrote: From: MacGuy macgu...@gmail.com Subject: Power supply tester To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 9:29 PM Would this little guy work for Apple OEM power supplies? and if not, anybody seen one out there for macs? http://www.directron.com/pst03.html#caption Jeff Engle Kamiah Idaho 83536 Hi Jeff; I agree with Wm. I spent many years designing, building and testing power supplies. I have designed and built several power supply testers. Since the 1950's also. From a 12KW Supply for a Vacuum Tube Room Size Computer to small on PC Board single voltage supply to power one Dual in-line Logic chip. For general trouble-shooting a Volt-Ohm-Ammeter / Milliamp meter is the most economical approach. The device shown in the Web-Link seems to be only a Connector, Case and a switch to select which outputs to read. They do not say at what current load the power supply is tested; it is probably set to be just enough to ensure stable operation of an ATX Supply in good condition. If the Power Supply is tested installed. I don't see that as being switchable in the picture. If all you want to know is : Does it work? a Volt Ohm Meter is adequate since you would be testing with the Power Supple installed and loaded by the Computer circuity at the load for all outputs set at the normal for that Computer. In that case: Does the fan run or the Lights light? No one fixes computer power supplies and if they did a more complete line of Instruments would be needed. You would be looking at thousands of dollars. If you are testing a stand alone power supply you will need to know if it is spec'ed to run at no load on all outputs or if not you will need to know what loads on what outputs will guarantee proper operation. This applies to all some Switch Mode Topologies but not all. Linear supplies are another story. On stand alone's a variable AC Transformer might be helpful. You can gradually increase the input AC to avoid nasty smoke and exploding Capacitors. Spring Clips to Banana Plug test leads long enough to reach into the computer from the meter can help avoid slipping test prods that can really ruin your day. I hope this is not to confusing. It's past my bed time. HTH, ErnieG The one thing I've always liked about you, Ernie, is that I always get a complete answer to my questions. Thanks:-) Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: fans on G5 - off to the races!
On Mar 16, 2009, at 8:33 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Menu Meters is one of my 'must have' apps. Bruce, I would really be interested in knowing what the rest of those must have apps are. Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: fans on G5 - off to the races!
On Mar 16, 2009, at 2:45 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 16, 2009, at 11:18 AM, nestamicky wrote: Bruce, I would really be interested in knowing what the rest of those must have apps are. Jeff I really would too..Bruce...what are they...make 'em 10downloading Menu Meters this instant Everyone's 'must have' applications list is a bit different: these are a random sample of programs I install on every computer I use...bear in mind that I'm a system administrator/database programmer, so my list is a bit skewed towards that end, and this list does not include the many of the well-known tools everyone should have in their arsenal: Carbon Copy Cloner, Firefox, Graphic Converter, etc, but these are the ones I find very useful that you may or may not know about: Wow, thanks Bruce! Although most of these I'll probably never use, there were 3-4 that look really useful. Thanks! Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: White MacBook Purchase?
On Mar 16, 2009, at 3:56 PM, Dennis Myhand wrote: Well, the tax refund is here and my wife just asked if we could get her a white Mac Book. I am stunned and pleased. Is there anything about the bottom end of the Mac Books I should know which would keep me from making the purchase? She is wanting this to fill her desire for a net book. She will mostly use this for web surfing, e-mail and working with languages. She does like listening to foreign language music (We are Norte Americanos, but my wife speaks several languages) on some of the web sites she goes to. Opinions? Observations? Appeals to rational thought? Speak thy minds, please. Thanks, Dennis I've seen a lot of the white macbooks one solitary thing they look dingy dirty real fast. Why apple ever made a white macbook is beyond me. Three days after you have it, it'll look like you've had it two years, just my opinion. Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Oh, that nasty cigarette goo!
ISA = Isopropyl Alcohol? On Mar 15, 2009, at 9:04 AM, James E. Therrault wrote: Isopropyl --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Oh, that nasty cigarette goo!
I would like to say thanks for all the input here, It's really helped me make an informed decision on how or if I am going to tackle these jobs when I come to them. Again, thanks! Jeff On Mar 15, 2009, at 9:04 AM, James E. Therrault wrote: I would reinforce this statement that in the arena of semi-conductor equipment manufacturing, IPA is the ONLY liquid allowed in a clean room environment. Not only is it used for cleaning components but also as a lubricant for assembly of difficult metals such as stainless to stainless fasteners. JT Charles Davis wrote: On Mar 15, 2009, at 2:37 AM, jonas ulrich wrote: I haven't really had to deal with computers that have been used in a smokers home. You say that goo builds up??? HOW??? just from the smoke or what? I might suggest maybe using rubbing alcohol and a tooth brush... rubbing alcohol === BAD 'Rubbing Alcohol' often has 'Emollients and perfumes', plus who knows what else, added to keep the users skin from being 'dried out'. Now the 91% Isopropyl is much better, and just a few cents more per bottle at the Drug Store. [WalleyMart, wherever!] Chuck D. i would just replace fans and stuff though... -Jonas On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Kyle Hansen pi...@speakeasy.net wrote: On 3/14/09 6:09 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com Broadcast into the ether: I have had this with three old Macs. My drill is to get My drill is not to buy machines from smokers because the stench will never be completely removed from said computer. Kyle Hansen -- This is the way the world ends...not with a bang, but a twitter. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Oh, that nasty cigarette goo!
Got a mac pro that's spent it's entire existence on the floor, in a cramped space with a chain-smoker for the past year and a half. The thing is so clogged with yellow goo and dirt that the power supply literally caught fire once about 4 months ago. Fortunately for him, Apple came through with another power supply! I couldn't believe it. Anyway, my question is How do I remove such nasty? The whole system would undoubtedly need to be carefully disassembled, which I'm not afraid of doing. But the GOO? how to get rid of it safely? without harming the various parts. I think an automotive parts washer is out of the question here:-) ps. and no, it's not mine! Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Oh, that nasty cigarette goo!
On Mar 14, 2009, at 5:17 PM, McGrude wrote: On the outside I'd just use Fformula 409 and then follow with Windex and then water. On the inside? I dunno. The outside is the easy part you'd think there would be a spray bath that you could use? I wonder what the pro's use? They probably run from such disasters. J --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Heat sink break-in period?
just replaced my stock mdd heatsink with a copper one, question, is there a break-in period and if so, approx. how long? I'm sitting at 135.6F (57C) and the fans are running at a high rpm with no load on the computer to speak of. Jeff Jeff Engle Kamiah Idaho 83536 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Heat sink break-in period?
On Mar 13, 2009, at 4:27 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 13, 2009, at 3:18 PM, MacGuy wrote: just replaced my stock mdd heatsink with a copper one, question, is there a break-in period and if so, approx. how long? I'm sitting at 135.6F (57C) and the fans are running at a high rpm with no load on the computer to speak of. Jeff There should be no 'break in' period. We're not running new rings in a cast-iron engine block. If you run particularly hot after doing something like this, it was done wrong: too much/too little thermal grease, the heat sink isn't properly seated, or the heat sink isn't actually correct for your installation. Were you overheating before? Why did you replace the heat sink? Are you trying to overclock the CPU? I wasn't overheating before or overclock, It's just that the computer room/office tends to get a bit warmer than the rest of the house in the summer months and rather than spring for an air conditioner, the other thing that came to my mind to do was a heat sink swap. Thought maybe the copper one (out of a 1.42) might be a little kinder on the system. that's all. Also the thought of picking up a 1.42 upgrade one of these days has entered my mind. Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Best G4 powermac??
Fan noise is a problem on the MDD model. I've had a 1.25 dual MDD with 4 hard drives, 2 optical drives and stock Delta fans Honestly, I've owned 3 G5 powermacs and I can say, this MDD might be a bit louder? but not much. I picked this one nicely loaded with 2gb or ram for a 300 buy it now on ebay, paid the 35 bucks for the squaretrade warranty. I'm very happy with it. Jeff Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: I've heard of the silenX fan but...
Ok, got my new SilenX fan today... and the connection is different on the motherboard verses the fan itself. How to connect it? Jeff PS. soldering iron is at the ready:-) On Mar 5, 2009, at 5:26 AM, dc wrote: You probably would be happy with either fan. According to the manufacturer's specs the SilenX is a little quieter (14 dBA vs 19.8 dBA) but it moves much more air (72 CFM vs 54 CFM). The OEM Delta case fan moves 152 CFM (53 dBA on high speed) so you really want to look at the airflow specs when choosing a case fan. For me dropping the fan noise from 53 to 14 dBA was worth a 5 degree rise in CPU GPU temps. It seems Apple designed the MDD DP 1.0 GHz to run at around 60 degrees C which is warmer than I like; my Cube with a 1.2 GHz CPU runs in the low 50s and my G5 DP 1.8 GHz runs in the mid-40s. Quoted from manufaturer's specs: SilenX Model # IXP-74-14T Dimensions: 120 x 120 x 25 mm Air Flow: 24 ~ 72 CFM Noise Level: 6 ~ 14 dBA Operating Voltage: 12 V DC Bearings: Fluid Dynamic Bearings (FDB) Noctua NF-P12 Size: 120x120x25 mm Airflow: 37.3 CFM - 54.3 CFM Acoustical Noise: 12.6 dB(A) - 19.8 dB(A) Bearing: SSO-Bearing Blade Geometry: Nine Blade Design with VCN --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Apple jumped the shark...
AMEN! If the Mac OS is not your over-riding reason to buy a Mac...don't buy a friggin Mac!!! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: I've heard of the silenX fan but...
wow, thanks for the article. wish I'd bought the Noctua ... think I will anyway:-) Jeff On Mar 4, 2009, at 7:31 PM, tonycd wrote: Some people question the bona fides of the SilenX. These guys do a terrific job, and I had very good luck following their recommendations: http://www.silentpcreview.com/article695-page1.html --Tony On Mar 2, 7:11 pm, MacGuy macgu...@gmail.com wrote: I've been looking into a fan replacement on my mdd. I've heard of the SilenX they've used to replace the ol' delta fans. question one - anybody know the model number/info and possibly where to buy one? Question two - what about other alternative fans with higher air flow output and just as quiet? Thanks, jeff Kamiah, Idaho 83536 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: I've heard of the silenX fan but...
I'm looking at this one, http://www.frozencpu.com/products/4274/fan-235/SilenX_120x120x38mm_-_18dBA_-_90CFM_iXtrema_Pro_Fan_IXP-76-18.html?tl=g33c165s358#blank What modifications will it need to hook up to the mdd motherboard? Jeff On Mar 3, 2009, at 4:49 AM, dc wrote: I got a MDD several months ago, one that had not been given a quiet PSU. I started looking for new fans right away. I compared the specs on a lot of fans and I decided the Sinlenx Pro series had the best air flow to noise ratio. I put 2 in the PSU and a 120mm in the case. My dual 1 GHz now runs at around 65 degrees C (which is about 5 degrees hotter than it ran with the stock fans). I tried a Gelid variable speed 120mm case fan and it does keep the temps about 5 degrees cooler but it almost always runs at full speed so it is louder than the SilenX fan but still quieter than the OEM Delta fan. This article shows how to replace the fans but since it was published newer, quieter fans have come on the market. I personally think the SilenX is the best. I purchased mine from that well known auction site. http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/systems/g4_mirrored_drive_doors/noise_reduction/g4_ddr_noise_reduction.html On Mar 2, 8:11 pm, MacGuy macgu...@gmail.com wrote: I've been looking into a fan replacement on my mdd. I've heard of the SilenX they've used to replace the ol' delta fans. question one - anybody know the model number/info and possibly where to buy one? Question two - what about other alternative fans with higher air flow output and just as quiet? Thanks, jeff Kamiah, Idaho 83536 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: I've heard of the silenX fan but...
ok, so it sounds like i don't need to buy anything else other that the fan itself. Also, I'd like to replace the psu fans at the same time, can you give me the info i need to order them all from frozencpu.com at the same time. Thanks. Jeff On Mar 3, 2009, at 12:55 PM, dc wrote: On both locations, PSU and case fans, I had to switch polarity of the SilenX fans to match the wiring on the OEM fans. I used black and red Sharpies to mark the connector on the OEM fans so that I knew where to put the red and black wires. Then I used a paper clip to release the wires from the OEM SilenX fans and swapped the connectors so that the new fans could plug into the motherboard. On Mar 3, 10:57 am, MacGuy macgu...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking at this one, http://www.frozencpu.com/products/4274/fan-235/SilenX_120x120x38mm_-_ ... What modifications will it need to hook up to the mdd motherboard? Jeff On Mar 3, 2009, at 4:49 AM, dc wrote: I got a MDD several months ago, one that had not been given a quiet PSU. I started looking for new fans right away. I compared the specs on a lot of fans and I decided the Sinlenx Pro series had the best air flow to noise ratio. I put 2 in the PSU and a 120mm in the case. My dual 1 GHz now runs at around 65 degrees C (which is about 5 degrees hotter than it ran with the stock fans). I tried a Gelid variable speed 120mm case fan and it does keep the temps about 5 degrees cooler but it almost always runs at full speed so it is louder than the SilenX fan but still quieter than the OEM Delta fan. This article shows how to replace the fans but since it was published newer, quieter fans have come on the market. I personally think the SilenX is the best. I purchased mine from that well known auction site. http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/systems/g4_mirrored_drive_doors/noise_redu ... On Mar 2, 8:11 pm, MacGuy macgu...@gmail.com wrote: I've been looking into a fan replacement on my mdd. I've heard of the SilenX they've used to replace the ol' delta fans. question one - anybody know the model number/info and possibly where to buy one? Question two - what about other alternative fans with higher air flow output and just as quiet? Thanks, jeff Kamiah, Idaho 83536- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
I've heard of the silenX fan but...
I've been looking into a fan replacement on my mdd. I've heard of the SilenX they've used to replace the ol' delta fans. question one - anybody know the model number/info and possibly where to buy one? Question two - what about other alternative fans with higher air flow output and just as quiet? Thanks, jeff Kamiah, Idaho 83536 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
VIDEO_TS to DVD?
I have a VIDEO_TS folder that is copyright free on my desktop that I'd like to make a playable dvd from that plays in any dvd player. I don't own toast nor wish to buy it. how do I burn it to a disk? can I do it in the finder? or disk utility? Thanks for the help. Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
what happened to the trash crunch noise?
for some reason the crunch of the trash went away? here crunchy! here crunchy?hmm.. ideas? Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
