Need the pinout for the power connection on the Cinema HD 22 DVI display
i was given the above monitor, but no power supply. the cheapest one i can find is $80 which is an amount i don't want to invest into this monitor. to make sure i've identified the monitor properly, it has a ring on the cable from which emanates the cable into the monitor, the power cable, a usb cable, and the DVI connector. i was wondering if anyone has one of these monitors who would be willing to use a voltmeter on the monitor's power supply to determine the pinout. the power supply is 16V DC, 65 watts. there are two larger and one smaller pin on the power cable going into the monitor, so i assume the larger ones are +16v and ground, and the smaller one is either another ground, or just a locating pin for the connector to be properly aligned into the power supply jack. thanks in advance ken baker -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: trying to revive an iMac G5 iSight 17
thanks. you were right in assuming that LED 3 did not light. i assumed the worst seeing that there was neither LCD image nor startup chime. i also failed to mention that i had tried a couple of different memory sticks. i know this is a fool's errand, but there is a mobo on ebay for $30 with a couple of bad caps that i will take a flyer on, just to try once more to keep this out of the landfill. since i don't have any history on this machine, i can't in good conscience part it out since i can't really test anything other than the optical drive and HD. ken -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
trying to revive an iMac G5 iSight 17
a friend gave me a non-working iMac G5 iSight 17. the symptom: when the power switch is depressed, the fans (both the optical drive and CPU) come on, and the front panel pilot light comes on. after 30 or so seconds, the fans kick into high speed, then intermittently return to normal speed, then high speed. there is no startup chime nor anything on the display. i inspected the display with a flashlight and there appears to be no image, so i don't think the problem is the backlight. using the excellent iFixit repair guide, i removed the logic board and checked for bad caps. all the caps look normal. i also checked the power supply caps and they are normal. diagnostic lights on the logic board: when the power is connected, led 1 lights as it should. when i press the power button, led 2 lights as it should. when the cpu overheats and the fans kick to high speed, led 4 glows red. from what i've been able to find online, there is no SMU reset button on this model. instead, i followed the instructions to reset the SMU by unplugging, wait 10 sec, then while holding the power switch on, reinsert the power plug. then release power and depress power again to start. that procedure did not help. finally, i replaced the CMOS battery on the logic board. is there anything else i should try before i give up? i hate to throw it away. thanks ken -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Using AGP 8x card in AGP 4x ADC compatible slot
in my experience with flashing PC cards in a PC, i use an old PCI video card so that i can see what is happening to the AGP card throughout the flashing process. there is a command in the NVFlash.exe tool that will let you know what slot each card is in, so that when you issue the command to copy the new rom to the agp card, you select the right card. the strangedogs forum is long gone, i believe. themacelite forum is all that's left, but it is a good place to find instructions, links to the flashing tool, and a good database of rim's. On Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:35:21 AM UTC-5, mhfadams wrote: On Jan 25, 2014, at 06:03 , Kris Tilford wrote: There’s a hack for adapting an standard PC ATX power supply into G4s, might be cheaper and safer (no 28v line for ADC) if you’re going to try your 9600XT again (assuming it’s not fried also?). Google “G4 ATX” and you can find lots of info for either modding yourself, or buying something. Thanks for that note ... I'll be looking into that. ... I've acquired several G4s with blown power supplies including a MDD that I'd like to start using, (seems to me the P.S. is the most common failure on G4s - just like the G5s always have coolant system troubles.) Back to original topic, I've tried all the *easy* possibilities, and am back to what you suggested about the card firmware. I have downloaded the software and instructions, but unfortunately no os-x version available so I'll have to wait until I can find a PC with an AGP slot (I really never thought I'd need a PC again ! ). Manoah F. Adams mhfa...@gmail.com javascript: info:https://federaladamsfamily.com/developer This message is signed with a certificate and-or PGP key. Disregard any unverified messages from this address. === -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G5 thinks there are still two monitors attached, after removing one.
someone gave me a dead 23 cinema display last year. i assumed the power brick was bad, but couldn't find one locally. so, i disassembled the display and traced the power wiring coming in from the brick to the circuit board. i found that there was in fact 120V coming from the brick so that wasn't the problem. after lots of googling, i found this site which proved to be my problem: http://www.ehmac.ca/mac-iphone-ipad-ipod-help-troubleshooting/75311-cinema-display-troubleshooting-parts-2.html the voltage regulator mentioned in that post apparently was undersized by the engineer who designed the circuitry, and burns out after a while. the post recommends a higher-capacity voltage regulator. it is somewhat bigger than the original one, and won't fit in the same location. if memory serves, it just cost a few dollars to buy. what i did was de-solder the faulty regulator and attached 3 wires to the 3 contacts on the board the old regulator was soldered to. then i soldered the new voltage regulator to the proper one of the 3 new wires, wrapped the contacts with electrical tape, and taped it to a spot in the monitor case where there was sufficient room. this isn't for the faint of heart, but if you know your way around a soldering iron (low wattage) and have the nerve to open the case, this might be your fix. you also may be able to persuade a local PC repair shop to do this for you if you provide them the instructions. good luck -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G5 thinks there are still two monitors attached, after removing one.
i should have said that the fix that worked for me is mentioned in post #15 of the link i posted in my original reply, and links to pictures (fuzzy, unfortunately) of the location of the voltage regulator on the motherboard are in post #16. post 15 mentions the part number of the suggested replacement voltage regulator as LM1086. here is a link to ebay listings for that item. http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.XLM1086_nkw=LM1086_sacat=0_from=R40 On Sunday, June 30, 2013 1:29:44 PM UTC-4, faithie999 wrote: someone gave me a dead 23 cinema display last year. i assumed the power brick was bad, but couldn't find one locally. so, i disassembled the display and traced the power wiring coming in from the brick to the circuit board. i found that there was in fact 120V coming from the brick so that wasn't the problem. after lots of googling, i found this site which proved to be my problem: http://www.ehmac.ca/mac-iphone-ipad-ipod-help-troubleshooting/75311-cinema-display-troubleshooting-parts-2.html the voltage regulator mentioned in that post apparently was undersized by the engineer who designed the circuitry, and burns out after a while. the post recommends a higher-capacity voltage regulator. it is somewhat bigger than the original one, and won't fit in the same location. if memory serves, it just cost a few dollars to buy. what i did was de-solder the faulty regulator and attached 3 wires to the 3 contacts on the board the old regulator was soldered to. then i soldered the new voltage regulator to the proper one of the 3 new wires, wrapped the contacts with electrical tape, and taped it to a spot in the monitor case where there was sufficient room. this isn't for the faint of heart, but if you know your way around a soldering iron (low wattage) and have the nerve to open the case, this might be your fix. you also may be able to persuade a local PC repair shop to do this for you if you provide them the instructions. good luck -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: MDD G4 odd start/restart behavior - new video card
i was going to suggest the same thing, if only for a last troubleshooting step. if you have either a spare PC power supply, or a PC that you can borrow the power supply from temporarily, you could try powering the video card from the separate power supply. assuming the borrowed PS doesn't have a switch, google for the pinout for the 20 (or 24) pin connector, and see which pins you need to short together to turn the PS on. ken -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Mac Mini G4 locks up while playing streaming audio
i have a mac mini G4 running 10.5.8. yesterday (i thought it was a fluke at the time) and again just now, it locked up while playing streaming audio in firefox 3.6.24. the mini was completely unresponsive, so i held the power button until it shut down. then powered back on, got the startup chime, but then a gray screen with no apple. i tried resetting PRAM, letting it cycle thru three startup chimes, but same result--gray screen but no apple. then i decided to try booting into open firmware to see if the machine was completely dead. this worked, and at the prompt i typed mac-boot and immediately the apple, then gearwheel, appeared, and it rebooted fine. as i said above, this just happened again (altho i booted into open firmware without resetting PRAM, so that troubleshooting step had no effect). i know this is an ancient version of firefox, and i am now using safari for the streaming audio, but i'm curious why after a forced shutdown the mini wouldn't restart normally, and why issuing the mac-boot command from open firmware made a difference. thanks in advance ken -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Where can I find a good explanation on using Migration Assistant?
to emphasize and build on Bruce's advice above, here's how i would do it: a) if you can install your G4 HD as a second HD in your G5: install 10.5.x on the G5 new HD. during the setup dialog after install, choose a user name other than the one that you used on the G4. i use Test. run migration assistant, and since you're transferring from another disk rather than another mac you don't need to go thru the pairing process (my term) described in apple's KB article. in the migration assistant dialog, choose to transfer everything that is on your G4 HD. after the migration is complete, log out of the Test user, and log in as your normal user. go to system prefs--users and groups and delete the user Test. b) if you can't or don't want to temporarily install your G4 HD as a second drive in your G5, then you will still set up a new user on your G5 after the 10.5.x install, but follow the steps in migration assistant to transfer from another mac instead of from another disk. good luck -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Oil Cooling
i watched the youtube video. i would think the first thing to fail would be the power supply fan. its little motor is designed to spin in air, which has virtually zero viscosity, not mineral oil. maybe the mineral oil will keep the motor cool enough when under the heavier load of moving liquid rather than air. having said that, the power supply may stay cool enough due to the convective fllow of the mineral oil induced by the heat generated by the power supply even if the fan motor burns out. for the same reason, i would think the fan on the processor heat sink will also fail, but again, the flow of mineral oil past the heat sink may carry heat away fast enough. so, the heat from the computer is transferred to the mineral oil. i get that. what cools the mineral oil? perhaps you just depend on conduction of heat through the acrylic of the aquarium. however, i believe acrylic has fairly low thermal conductivity, and unless your setup is in a breezy location in the house i would think over time the mineral oil will warm up. also, if you light the enclosure (as you would light an aquarium) that will add heat to the oil bath. i have an aquarium lit with a couple of fluorescent tubes, and it requires a chiller in the recirculation loop in the summer due to the heat from the fluorescent tubes. good luck! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: NO start up chime
i have a G4 Sawtooth that every now and then doesn't issue the startup chime. it boots and runs fine. if i want to get the chime back, i reset PRAM (command-option-P-R at startup). that brings the chime back. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Bad Video Card?
what is the URL you used to find the strangedog site? thanks!! On Feb 6, 2:23 am, t...@io.com t...@prismnet.com wrote: On Feb 4, 1:49 pm, Valter Prahlad valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it wrote: Il giorno 4-02-2012 10:54, pdimage ha scritto: Both the X800 and the X850 will convert to mac but I gather they are very troublesome and the dvi port never works as far as I know. As far as I can remember, the problem with a flashed PC X800 DVI port is it won't drive a DVI monitor, but it will still work with a VGA one (provided you use a DVI to VGA adapter on the port, of course). In other words, after flashing the card, the two display ports still work, but only for VGA monitors. I'm not 100% sure, but that's what I understood after getting an used PC X800 for 25£. (I didn't flash it yet, though, because it's working in my gaming PC right now :-) I went and read the 29 page thread about X800/X850 conversion on Strange Dogs. Themacelite forum may be gone, but Strange Dogs is still around. Yay! According to the long thread, things are as the previous poster wrote. As with many of these conversions, there's a reduced Firmware to fit in the PC 64K Flash. The full Mac Firmware requires a 128K flash chip, which usually means replacing the 64K Flash chip on the PC versions of the card. The X800 and X850 can be converted, but while the PC models have one DVI port and one VGA port, the DVI port will only work with a DVI to VGA adapter. The reason is that the GPU has the circuitry for the DVI (or ADC) output built in. On an Apple card with ADC/DVI outputs, the card uses the built-in circuitry to drive the ADC port and there is a separate Silicon Images DVI chip on the card to drive the DVI port. So, Apple card: ADC port driven by GPU. DVI port driven by dedicated chip. PC card: DVI port driven by GPU. VGA port doesn't need extra circuitry. And when you replace the PC X800/X850 BIOS with Mac Firmware, it tries to program the GPU to output ADC format to the DVI port -- which doesn't work. And there's no dedicated chip to drive DVI on the other port, and there's just a VGA connector there anyway. Now, ADC is electrically compatible with DVI. The converters between the two just rearrange the wires. They don't massage the signals -- except that DVI to ADC requires the addition of the 28V supply. So this suggests that the DVI port on a converted X800/X850 probably has the proper signals, but on the wrong pins. The HP Fire GL X3 has two DVI ports and has the dedicated DVI chip on board. Apparently, conversion of the Fire GL X3 does yield two working DVI ports. It may require the full Mac firmware (Flash chip replacement) to get that functionality. I can't remember any more. The Fire card is rated for a slower clock speed than the X850XT PE but gets good benchmarks, nevertheless. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Entries in Firewall Log
the ip address 76.74.254.118 belongs to wordpress.com, which looks like a blog hosting site. do you have a blog there, or were you reading a blog from there? On Jan 22, 5:19 pm, Edward Treen ted.tr...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi All, I'm hoping that there is a lister with good knowledge of the technicalities of the internet. In my logs, there are many entries along the lines of:- Jan 22 22:01:16 tedsnewmacpro Firewall[99]: Stealth Mode connection attempt to TCP 192.168.1.67:56039 from 76.74.254.118:80 and Jan 22 19:28:49 tedsnewmacpro Firewall[99]: Deny netbiosd data in from 172.16.162.1:137 to port 137 proto=17 The second is, I presume, some internal matter between the Mac system and the ADSL router, but the first worries me a little. I've checked many of the IP addresses on whois.domaintools.com, and discovered Amazon, eBay Adobe (amongst others). Amazon I know offers server services to other organisations, but why should ebay, Adobe or in fact anyone try a Stealth Mode connection to my router? Do I have cause for concern? Thanks Ted (Probably getting paranoid) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 or G5?
here's a dumb question--how are you measuring power consumption? thanks ken On Jan 10, 10:19 am, JOHN CARMONNE carmo...@aol.com wrote: On Jan 9, 2012, at 11:36 PM, arichic...@gmail.com wrote: 1. I have had chances to grab various G5's for between $100 and $150. I have been hesitant because I have ehard they use so much power. Do they really use that much more power than a G4? How much more? My My G4 MDD 1.25 was 295 watts. My PPC G5 dual 2.7 averages 410 watts and my Mac Pro is 98 watts both doing the same work most of the time, however the G5's are much faster then the G4's. The G5's with the fans running most of the time suck up a lot of juice. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: The ADB connection appears on a 4-way mini DIN socket for an Apple keyboard
+1 you will probably save money buying a PC usb keyboard over buying one for a mac, even if you buy a non-apple branded mac keyboard. as jack said, the option and command (apple) key positions are reversed on a PC keyboard. to fix that, open system preferences-- keyboard. click on Modifier Keys in the lower right corner. click on the pulldown menu next to Option Key and select Command, and on the pulldown menu next to Command Key and select Option. then if you want, you can use some paint or fingernail polish on the keys to change the artwork! all this advice may be moot if you already have a working keyboard, and you just want to put a rescued piece of Apple gear back into service--i know the words to that song! On Jan 5, 11:17 pm, Jack Countryman jcoun...@mac.com wrote: There were several usb to adb adapters made when the switch from adb to usb happened. I've had several different ones, made by Belkin (eGo), Momentum (uConnect), KeySpan, and Griffin (iMate). It seemed that different ones worked with different devices. Though most, if not all, would handle a keyboard or mouse, the Palm Pilots liked a different one than the UPS devices liked and other adb devices worked better with still other adapters. I think at one time I had three or so different ones on my g4 tower to keep various old devices working. (I'm not sure anymore which worked with what devices.) It seems to me that several of these needed or benefited from software drivers. Those may be even more difficult to find than the hardware. Even with the software, they may not work correctly until after the software loads. So keypresses that need to be there at startup become very difficult to do. A quick search on eBay finds two new Griffin iMates for sale there. A search there for KeySpan there shows up several of their adapters. A search for Belkin finds a number of their usb to DB9 adapters, and a few of their serial modular adapter units that have both DB9 and ADB. A search for Momentum finds one of their adapters. So, the devices are still out there...some of them (the Griffin units) still new in the package. At one time, there was also a device called a 'stealth serial port' sold, that put an adb serial port on the bw g3 and some g4 towers in the space where a modem port would otherwise go. A search on eBay shows one of those for sale for $25. That actually gives you the female DIN8 port to plug your adb keyboard into...if you have one of the models of Mac it works with. The ad lists it for a Mac mini, and the picture shows a printed circuit board, while the one I have that worked on my Blue White g3 Mac is only a ribbon cable with the female port...no printed circuit board. Maybe the Mac mini needs the board? If so, does that one really work with the g4? Caveat Emptor! http://www.ebay.com/itm/GEETHREE-G4-STEALTH-SERIAL-PORT-MAC-G4-MINI-D... Note that the same issue exists with mice...the old ones for your g4 are adb models. the new ones are usb. Perhaps a single usb to adb adapter would handle both a keyboard and mouse if they were daisy chained? However, prices on any of these devices are as high or higher than what you would pay for used or even new usb Mac or mac compatible keyboards. So, for practical purposes, the earlier poster probably has the right idea. It will be easiest to find a cheap usb keyboard. There's a university surplus outlet I sometimes get to that routinely has used keyboard (windows and Mac varieties) for $5 each plus tax. (Note that those keyboards intended for use with windows machines are rumored to work also with option=alt, and command=windows keys. On the other hand, if you are one who insists on keeping his old extended keyboard I or II going because of the way it feels...so be it...but its going to cost you. Good luck. Kris Tilford mailto:ktilfo...@cox.net January 5, 2012 10:28 PM On Jan 5, 2012, at 6:58 PM, Reggie wrote: None of the G4 PowerMacs are compatible with ADB keyboards. The best solution is to sell the ADB keyboard and get an Apple USB keyboard. ADB adapters are rare expensive, the Griffin iMate is $75 retail, $25 on eBay http://compare.ebay.com/like/220925051610 I don't think Mac keyboard commands work with an adapted ADB-to-USB keyboard, so this is a substantial drawback if you have problems. USB keyboards are cheap and plentiful. You might be able to buy 5 keyboards for the same price as one if you find the right seller? Older USB keyboards that came with colored iMacs or early PowerMacs often sell for $5 or so each, a stack for $15-20 shipped. Reggie mailto:reggiegreenl...@msn.com January 5, 2012 7:58 PM I have an older G4 powerpc, Mac OS X 10.5.8. I found an apple keyboard but it has the 4 way mini DIN socket and I am having a heck of a time finding an USB adaptor for it. Does anyone know where i can find one? Thanks for your help! I am new at this so I may not
Re: iMac G5 won't power on
checked the power supply. both 12v outputs read 11.56. since this is a hand-me-down from someone who already replaced their computer, i don't think i'll spend any more time on it. just hate to see it go to a landfill. can't in good conscience part it out since i don't know what's wrong with it. thanks ken On Jan 3, 11:10 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Jan 3, 2012, at 8:43 PM, faithie999 wrote: None of the caps are visibly damaged, but I know that doesn't mean that one or more aren't faulty. If none are popped, I don't think it's likely the problem. I'd look for something else. It sounds a lot like a bad power supply, which you can check with a multimeter. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iMac G5 won't power on
bruce--i should have thanked you for the link. i found my way to badcaps.net, a very interesting site. i removed the power supply, and tested the outputs. i got 11.56v on both 12v outputs. that leads me to believe the problem is with the caps on the logic board, which there is a kit for on the above site. i'm considering whether my soldering skills are up to the task. btw, the person that gave me this kept the HD, but also kept the temperature sensor that is glued to it. will the computer boot without the temp sensor plugged in? if it won't i will try to find a pinout for that connector and make a jumper. thanks ken On Jan 2, 7:41 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jan 2, 2012, at 4:03 PM, faithie999 wrote: which are the power supply caps on the logic board? there are probably 20+ caps in all on the board. Follow the links I sent, or google G5 iMac capacitor replacement. If you're kitting up to do the power supply, may as well do the whole thing, Power supply and logic board. as for the power supply board--did you replace the large caps, or just the smaller ones? Only the big can-like ones i know that any of them can be bad, but desoldering and resoldering the larger ones are probably beyond my capability. the smaller ones look doable. Actually the larger ones are easier to remove. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iMac G5 won't power on
I found a message in a badcap.net thread that suggested changing the CMOS battery. Did so, and now a new set of symptoms. Pilot light comes on, fan at normal (low) speed, but no startup chime and no boot. Screen is black. Tried booting with install disk but SuperDrive doesn't swallow the disk. Tried a couple different ram sticks to no avail. Does this still sound like a capacitor problem or should I head down a different track? Diagnostic led's: When I plug in the power cord led1 lights as expected. After powering on led2 lights as expected. Led3 never lights. Manual suggests this is a video problem but since it doesn't appear to be booting I'm not ready to condemn the video yet. Any further ideas? Thanks On Jan 3, 11:17 am, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jan 3, 2012, at 4:42 AM, faithie999 wrote: btw, the person that gave me this kept the HD, but also kept the temperature sensor that is glued to it. will the computer boot without the temp sensor plugged in? if it won't i will try to find a pinout for that connector and make a jumper. Wow, no idea. Maybe iFixit.com will be able to help, either with info about the disassembly and drive replacement or even the part. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iMac G5 won't power on
thanks. i have no use for this when/if i fix it; i gave a 20 imac G5 that we were no longer using to my sister for her kids. however, i hate to put this in a landfill! as an academic exercise, i may spring for the capacitor kit and give it a try. ken On Jan 3, 2:15 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jan 3, 2012, at 12:04 PM, faithie999 wrote: I found a message in a badcap.net thread that suggested changing the CMOS battery. Did so, and now a new set of symptoms. Pilot light comes on, fan at normal (low) speed, but no startup chime and no boot. Screen is black. Tried booting with install disk but SuperDrive doesn't swallow the disk. Tried a couple different ram sticks to no avail. Does this still sound like a capacitor problem or should I head down a different track? Diagnostic led's: When I plug in the power cord led1 lights as expected. After powering on led2 lights as expected. Led3 never lights. Manual suggests this is a video problem but since it doesn't appear to be booting I'm not ready to condemn the video yet. All signs point to logic board issues with the thing. On G5 iMacs the most common logic board issue is bad caps. The system isn't even coming alive (no startup chime) Remove all the ram and see if you get the bad ram crash noise, but I'll bet you don't. At this point you'll want to consider the value of your time and parts to repair it. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iMac G5 won't power on
which are the power supply caps on the logic board? there are probably 20+ caps in all on the board. as for the power supply board--did you replace the large caps, or just the smaller ones? i know that any of them can be bad, but desoldering and resoldering the larger ones are probably beyond my capability. the smaller ones look doable. none of the caps, either on the logic board or the power supply, are bulging or otherwise look damaged, but i know they can be damaged internally without any external symptoms thanks ken On Jan 2, 3:15 pm, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: On Dec 31, 2011, at 3:45 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Dec 31, 2011, at 2:45 PM, faithie999 wrote: a friend gave me a dead iMac 17 G5 iSight. the symptom is: when i push the power button, the pilot light comes on for about a second, then the fan comes on at full speed, then about a second later the pilot light and the fan turn off. the screen never lights up and there is no startup chime. i've tried resetting SMU by unplugging, then replugging while depressing the power button, then releasing and re-pushing the power button. same behavior as described above. Almost certainly, given that this is a G5 iMac, it's bad caps in the power supply and/or logic board. http://www.google.com/search?client=safarirls=enq=capacitor+replace... Plenty of instructions for the DIY-er and services to do it for you. I received a 20 G5 (no iSight) for free because it had the same or similar symptoms. I replaced all the power supply caps on the logic board and replaced the power supply. All is well with it now. Replacing the caps isn't simple as they use lead free solder which has a higher melting point. Unless you are skilled at soldering your best bet is to find a service to change them. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How do I remove an OS from a computer?
i assume that wipe the data means wipe the entire disk. if you want to just erase selected files, move them to the trash, then click on Finder--Preferences--Advanced, and check the box next to Securely Empty Trash. then empty the trash. i have no idea how secure this is. to securely erase the entire disk: boot from your install disk open disk utility highlight the hard disk in the left-hand panel click the erase tab on the right-hand panel click on security options and check the radio button next to the desired level of secure erase of your choosing, then click erase the above is all for OS X. for mac classic os, someone else will have to give advice. ken On Jan 2, 5:54 pm, cheryl chelyh...@gmail.com wrote: I have two old Macs that I want to wipe the data from. Can I do that myself? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iMac G5 won't power on
thanks--i'll take it apart and have a look ken On Dec 31 2011, 6:45 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Dec 31, 2011, at 2:45 PM, faithie999 wrote: a friend gave me a dead iMac 17 G5 iSight. the symptom is: when i push the power button, the pilot light comes on for about a second, then the fan comes on at full speed, then about a second later the pilot light and the fan turn off. the screen never lights up and there is no startup chime. i've tried resetting SMU by unplugging, then replugging while depressing the power button, then releasing and re-pushing the power button. same behavior as described above. Almost certainly, given that this is a G5 iMac, it's bad caps in the power supply and/or logic board. http://www.google.com/search?client=safarirls=enq=capacitor+replace... Plenty of instructions for the DIY-er and services to do it for you. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
iMac G5 won't power on
a friend gave me a dead iMac 17 G5 iSight. the symptom is: when i push the power button, the pilot light comes on for about a second, then the fan comes on at full speed, then about a second later the pilot light and the fan turn off. the screen never lights up and there is no startup chime. i've tried resetting SMU by unplugging, then replugging while depressing the power button, then releasing and re-pushing the power button. same behavior as described above. any ideas on how to troubleshoot this? i did some googling, and there is a link to an apple support doc for this problem for a non-isight model (describes taking rear cover off, which clearly can't be done with the isight model) but nothing other than uninformed speculation on message boards about the isight G5. i have dissassembled it and looked for power supply diagnostic LED's but if they are there they're not obvious. thanks in advance for any ideas ken -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: how to disassemble an apple puck mouse?
very geeky!! nice On Dec 12, 4:38 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Dec 12, 2011, at 2:14 PM, Andy wrote: On 12 Dec 2011, at 21:03PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: I find myself in need of completely disassembling an old Apple puck mouse If you remove the coloured plastic (fingernail work) it should, fairly easily pop off. This reveals 2 philips screws. That’s more or less it. I don’t know of any pictures I’m afraid but it isn’t really tricky. About two minutes after I sent it, I found this: http://www.applefritter.com/node/1881, which is precisely what you said, and right under those were some screws holding the whole thing together. What are you going to do with it? Make it optical? LEDs? Turn it into an FM radio? Our office has a Ace Hardware wireless doorbell, as it's normally locked, and you can't hear someone knocking very well either in our desk areas or back in the server room. The cheap switch wore out, so I'm transplanting the transmitter guts into the body of the mouse, using the mouse clicker switch to replace the broken one, and mounting it on the door. I'll post pics if it works out... -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Poor Airport reception
i believe the airport extreme built-in antenna is designed in a way that results in excellent signal transmission UPWARDS but not so good DOWNWARDS. can you put the extreme on the first floor? ken On Sep 19, 4:48 am, QuoVadis eelcovanv...@home.nl wrote: Hi all! I've recently acquired an Airport card to fit inside my G4 QS (the 2002 model). It works fine, meaning it connects to the Extreme base station and gets me on the internet. The problem is the reception: I have my Airport Extreme base station set up on the second of 3 floors. My eMac on the third floor has full reception (meaning all the bars on the Airport-icon in the taskbar are lit) while the G4 has only one or two bars lit (mostly two). Furthermore, network transfers are slow (maximum download speed is around 300k/s and copying 500MB takes about half an hour). I realize that the card is in fact an 11mBit card, but it should (theoretically) reach close to 1.1 MB/s. I've checked the antenna so far, which is connected properly. Only thing I can try is to see if my G4 GE has the same problem when I swap the Airport card. Maybe the antenna has fractured internally (I hope not). The G4 is placed adjecent to an amplifier, CD player, AM/FM tuner and turntable. A LCD TV is also closeby (being the monitor for the G4) as is a 1/4 tape recorder. Just mentioning it, because it's a lot of steel/aluminium and electriciy to interfere with the signal. Does anyone have a suggestion? Greetings, Eelco. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Snoring G4 Digital Audio?
another shameless plug--i was in Barry's shop several months ago to pick up a vintage apple printer. his shop is like a museum!! a great place! On Sep 5, 7:47 pm, glen glenst...@yahoo.com wrote: - Original Message - I replaced the power supply on my DA with a regular $20 ATX supply modified according to the instructions at this link: http://atxg4.com/ Perhaps he is still selling the harnesses. ($20) It works. If you compare the pinout diagrams you will note the differences between the various machines. Thanks Bruce, Valter, et al. I have taken the easy way out. The sledge hammer solution :) Thanks to Barry in Cranston, RI, I picked up a 867MHz Quicksilver for about the same cost as an ATX PS with the conversion harness and the resulting shipping charges. I came to realize the 28 pin DA PS's are rather rare to find used and expensive to replace. Of course the fan replacement would be less expensive. But there is no reason to believe is is just simply a fan problem. The fan speeds up which indicates a heating problem and then the fan vibrates loudly. Which brings about the proverbial chicken or egg question. If and when I ever have time I may try to replace the PS fan and I will definitely keep an eye on the SWAP list for an inexpensive DA power supply. In the mean time I will use the DA 'til next weekend (or until if fails) when I will transfer the DA guts to the QS. Always wanted a QS anyway. Shameless plug for Barry in Cranston, RI: If you are in Southern New England his shop has lots'a Mac's -- vintage thru G4's at least -- and he opened up on the Labor Day holiday for me and another customer. You can find on the SWAP list. He certainly made my day. Thanks all --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Snoring G4 Digital Audio?
Here's a web page showing the pinout of a standard PC 20-pin power supply and all versions of G4 power supplies. the DA uses 22 pins and one of the 2 extra pins supplies +28volts. if you decide to do a mod to a standard power supply, you'll need to find a wallwart 28v power supply, probably on ebay. i am not making any claims about how this will turn out for you! http://www.outofspec.com/frankenmac/wire.shtml On Sep 4, 7:04 pm, glen glenst...@yahoo.com wrote: My DA sounds like its snoring -- Wooooo_zz. Sorta' like entering a bedroom with someone asleep -- inhale-exhale snore about every 5 seconds or so. This condition just started a few days ago. The problem seems to be coming from the power supply fan speeding up (heat issue?) and then vibrating . I have blown out all dust from the PS and the rest of the internals. The main case fan seems to be OK. I can feel the vibration when I touch the case of the PS during the times. So, the questions: 1) can it be fixed? I read recent tread about PS high voltage so I don't think I want to get fried replacing the the PS fan. 2) is the DA PS the same as the G3 BW as I have some spares? 3) what other cheap PS's can be used as a replacement? 4) does it matter? I can deal with the noise, but is an impending PS failure imminent? This is my main business computer. Thanks as always, --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Upgrading G4 PowerMac AGP Graphics (Sawtooth) to USB 2.0
in my experience with my sawtooth, a usb2 card with the NEC chip works--but other usb cards from my parts bin with other mfr's chips don't work. the mfr of the chip is silkscreened onto the chip. ken On Jun 30, 9:21 am, rbridge rbri...@ns.sympatico.ca wrote: I've upped RAM to 1Gb, OS is up to 10.4.11, and I'm trying to support Eyeball 2.0 Webcam/mike pkg by speeding up the USB to 2.0. I added a generic USB 2.0 PCI card with four ext and one int. port, but the machine doesn't seem to acknowledge it...still no action at the webcam, unless I plug it into one of the two older USB 1.1 ports...they see the camera but operation is sporadic and the video shuts off quickly. Am I doing something wrong? Is my USB card maybe only for PC? Do I need a driver for the new USB 2.0? If it works at some point, do I end up with two USB buses? That is, one at 1.1 for the keyboard plugs on the original rear panel, and a 2.0 bus at the four new PCI plugs...? Any help much appreciated... Bob Bridge St. Peter's NS, Canada -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: wall mount my 20 cinema ADC ?
here is a link to the VESA standard mounting hole patterns. http://www.mountcenter.com/VESA-Mount-Standards-s/367.htm if your monitor has mounting holes per one of these patterns, you're in good shape. you should be able to find standard wall mount brackets at your favorite big box electronics store. chances are walmart also has them, since they sell flat screen tv's. i bought a simple (non-articulating) bracket for a small tv recently for less than $30 at fry's. ken -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PSU specs for Apple Airport Snow White Dual Ethernet M8440?
zoom makes a usb modem that is about the size of a pack of gum. i have used one with my macbook pro. here's the description from amazon--zoom 3095 usb modem http://www.amazon.com/Zoom-3095-Mini-External-Modem/dp/B001FCIOSW on ebay, one of these might be cost-competitive with buying the airport plus a power supply. ken -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New addition to my tool kit...
this is the modern incarnation of the turboencabulator ken On Apr 1, 8:07 pm, Yersinia yersi...@myfairpoint.net wrote: On 4/1/11 4:37 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: ...something everyone who works with computers should have in their kit... http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10622 I'm buying a bunch! And happy April Fool's Day to you, too! ;-) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Leopard on an 800MHz eMac (ATI)? (... and stuff)
when i was getting an inherited sawtooth up and running (a 1.6 ghz processor and 1.75 gb ram), i saw all the comments about leopard is slower than tiger, but i still wanted the latest and greatest. so, i installed leopard. the main use for the sawtooth is for lightroom 2. the good news is that it runs, and having leopard let me use time machine. however, after a couple of weeks of lightroom taking minutes to execute certain tasks, i decided to give tiger a chance. sure enough, all the advice is right. at least with lightroom, tiger is significantly faster. also, the xbench scores show about a 30% improvement of tiger over leopard, altho i know many folks don't put much stock in xbench. as for backup, i use CCC and do automated incremental backups daily to a dedicated external drive. not nearly as elegant as TM but gets the job done. ken -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
extra connector on AGP card with ADC output
i have a sawtooth, which i know didn't come with an ADC monitor. however, i'd like to have an adc-capable card in my parts bin. i looked at one on ebay but there is an extra tab with a few contact on it, maybe 1/2 to 1 inch in front of the agp contacts. i thought apple used contacts 3 and 11 especially for the ADC monitor, but obviously these extra contacts must have some purpose. what are they for, and i assume that G4 machines that came with ADC monitors have an extra socket in front of the agp socket into which this tab inserts. finally, was this design only for the G4, or would this card work in an AGP G5? thanks! this ebay listing has a decent picture of the connector i'm curious about: http://cgi.ebay.com/APPLE-G4-NVIDIA-AGP-ADC-VIDEO-CARD-630-3963-POWERMAC-G4-/250773870717?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cardshash=item3a6349987d -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: extra connector on AGP card with ADC output
thanks for the answer. followup question, then: is it a reasonable assumption that the vga output of such a card (or the dvi, if a card has that as the second output along with an ADC output) will function if there is no 25V socket in line with the agp socket? thanks!! On Mar 16, 3:32 pm, Chance Reecher cha...@reecher.net wrote: Those extra contacts on the second tab are what carry the +25V DC that powers an ADC monitor. Pins 3 and 11 DO carry the USB signal. To the poster that said USB requires 4 pins - Remember that two of the USB pins carry +5V DC, which is available in the native AGP spec. Only two USB pins actually carry data, hence 3 and 11. G4 machines that are capable of running ADC monitors do have an extra socket in front of the AGP slot for that second tab on the card. Chance On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 7:14 AM, faithie999 faithie...@hotmail.com wrote: i have a sawtooth, which i know didn't come with an ADC monitor. however, i'd like to have an adc-capable card in my parts bin. i looked at one on ebay but there is an extra tab with a few contact on it, maybe 1/2 to 1 inch in front of the agp contacts. i thought apple used contacts 3 and 11 especially for the ADC monitor, but obviously these extra contacts must have some purpose. what are they for, and i assume that G4 machines that came with ADC monitors have an extra socket in front of the agp socket into which this tab inserts. finally, was this design only for the G4, or would this card work in an AGP G5? thanks! this ebay listing has a decent picture of the connector i'm curious about: http://cgi.ebay.com/APPLE-G4-NVIDIA-AGP-ADC-VIDEO-CARD-630-3963-POWER... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is athttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmland our netiquette guide is athttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Good time machine alternative for Tiger on a DA 733
with ccc, can you do a full restore from a dated backup as you can with time machine? would be great if you could. from the FAQ on their website, it's clear you can restore individual files from a dated backup, but it is silent on doing a full restore. guess you could select all the files in the restore dialog? On Mar 13, 11:19 pm, Brian Christmas b...@tpg.com.au wrote: On 14/03/2011, at 2:14 PM, Scotty wrote: Does anyone have a suggestion for a good alternative to time machine that will run on my DA 733mhz Power Mac? My old quicksilver ran 10.5 and I am just looking for something that can perform a similar function as time machine on Leopard. Carbon Copy Cloner, and set it for incremental backups every hour or so. http://www.bombich.com/ Regards Santa -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: When you really need to erase data...
i rebuild old PC's and give them to a social worker to give to her clients. i found this program http://www.dban.org/Boot n Nuke which yes, is a DOS boot disc/DOD-level erasing program, but if you have a PC around you can install your old Mac HD into it and when Boot n Nuke starts you can choose from 7 levels of data destruction. a pretty slick tool. Ken -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PowerMac G5 1.8 single - Video card options?
i just posted a GeForce 6200 on the LEM Swap list if you're interested. Ken -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Superdrive woe
the UJ-825 in my powerbook G4 became increasingly fussy over time. cd writing was prettyr reliable, but as for dvd writing, sometimes it would report a successful burn , but the resulting dvd wouldn't read. more often, either the drive would report can't calibrate the laser for this media or it would accept the media then fail either during the burn or during the verify. there seemed to be no difference in success rate using either toast platinum or disk utility. i found a replacement drive on ebay for about $25 IIRC. i used a guide from ifixit.com, which has a wide variety of very detailed and (in my experience) accurate repair guides. i have done several repairs on mac books and a mac book pro, but replacing the superdrive in the power book was the most challenging, so be forewarned. nothing about it was hard, or required any particular technical skills, but just attention to detail and patience. the superdrive appears to be the first thing placed into the case during manufacture, so you need to take out just about everything else in the case in order to remove it. when i use one of the ifixit guides, i print a copy, then tape the screws to the printed copy that are removed in each step. it took about an hour to do this repair, and the new drive works well. ken On Mar 8, 2:01 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Mar 8, 2011, at 6:38 AM, Jonathan Smith wrote: I have a 17 powerbook G4 1.5 with the MATSHITA DVD-R UJ-825 superdrive. I am not a frequent burner of dvd/cd's. But I am used to more modern drive which don't fuss over what type of media you use. According to it's specs, it reads dvd full stop and burns - and +. I have had it reading from cd's and dvd's, I have yet to burn from it though. But it will not recognise a particular dual layer dvd+ I have burned. It just spits it out. It also spits out a blank disc of the same kind. I have read elsewhere that apple recommend TDK. Have I read correctly, that these drives are fussy and only like certain brands of disc? Also, should I be ok to read and write to dvd+ dual layers and if so, which work for you best? Don't know about media, the specifications of the UJ-825 say that it can both read write DVD+ dual-layer media, so this appears to be a problem with the drive or the media type, most likely the media I'd guess? With respect to media, there are several different dyes used in different media brands. I've had excellent luck with Verbatim discs that use the darker dye rather than the cheaper discs with the lighter dye. Cheap discs seem to fail at a high rate. One thing to consider, there is supposedly such a thing as a dual-layer rewritable disc which I've never used, but sounds intriguing if you could actually rewrite these up to 1,000 times. I'd be surprised if you could rewrite a single time, but I have very limited experience with rewritable discs, perhaps they work great? I've seen that back in 2007 someone created a patched firmware for this drive that enables RPC1 region-free usage for this drive so that it can play discs from all regions. Normally region-free flashing isn't necessary any longer because VLC can play discs from all regions without flashing, but this particular drive seems to be special and doesn't work region-free with VLC according to information on this page: http://www.pinoymac.org/forum/archive/index.php?t-18462.html Flashing a drive in a Mac may be impossible or difficult. I don't see a Mac flash program, but it may be possible to boot the Mac into Target Disk mode and attach the Mac to a PC via a Firewire cable and then flash the drive from the PC using the Windows flash program (I don't know if it supports Firewire flashing, so this may be a waste of time?). If you can't flash it using a PC with the Mac in Target Disk mode the only alternative would be to remove the drive and place it into a PC which seems too difficult for a laptop. Also, finding the patched firmware may be difficult, and it also my remove the Apple from the identifier, which probably isn't an issue if you're using 10.4.11 or 10.5.8, but may require PatchBurn if you have any lower level OS. Here's a page about the UJ-825 patched firmwware: http://forum.rpc1.org/viewtopic.php?f=30t=43012 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Target mode problem
i inherited a sawtooth G4, and for the first couple of weeks i couldn't get it to enter target disk mode, either by using the T key on startup, or choosing it in the startup disk preferences panel. then one day i tried it and it worked, and it has ever since. i think what happened is that somewhere along the way in getting this old machine up and running, upgraded, etc, i had reason to reset the CUDA and that was what cause target disk mode to start working. google reset CUDA power mac and you'll find an apple document describing how to do it for your machine. ken On Mar 7, 5:28 pm, Al Poulin alfred.pou...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 6, 9:03 pm, MichaelP papa...@peak.org wrote: With an OS10.4.11 system refuses to enter Target mode on aG4 mirrored - PowerMac 3.6 - whether through the T-key or through the prompt on the Startup Disk window and, instead , the machine turnsitself off. I'm not sure I understand which machine is the target, and I am not sure I can help. But have your tried making your current host the target instead? I had a similar problem years ago. Look here:http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/browse_thread/thread/922a146... or search on Target Disk Mode Major Hicup. I never pursued the drive swap or master-slave solutions suggested by Bruce and Donald, because in a one-time transfer of files, I got what I wanted done by making the target mode go the opposite way. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: IDE / SATA Converter
i haven't tried one of those converters, but i did have success in installing a Sonnet PCI SATA card in order to use a SATA drive. as i understand it, the Sonnet card is one of the few that supports booting from a SATA drive. once in a great while they are available on ebay, but i bought mine (new) from Provantage. it works great. i don't know if i'm getting full SATA speeds from to the PCI architecture in the G4, but i'm sure it's faster than the G4's ATA bus. one of the experts here can comment on that. http://www.provantage.com/sonnet-technologies-tsata~7SONT03H.htm ken On Mar 4, 4:07 am, nick telis nickte...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone on the list installed one of these or similar adapters in a G4 MDD 1.42 or any G4 MDD? IOMAX Bi-Directional IDE / SATA Converter (Connect IDE Drive to SATA Motherboard or SATA Drive to IDE Motherboard) Nick -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Sufficient power from Sawtooth PSU for Radeon 9800?
i'm planning on installing a Radeon 9800 pro card in my sawtooth. should i replace the power supply with a 300W (or larger) ATX power supply? i have done some googling and have found the pinouts for the sawtooth and ATX power connectors and it is an easy mod. if i try the radeon with the stock PSU, and there is insufficient power, what will the symptoms be, either for the video card or the computer? thanks! Ken -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GeForce 6800 vs 6200
thanks for the advice. i'll pursue it and report back when it's installed. On Feb 14, 9:10 pm, Daniel Stewart daniel.stewart...@gmail.com wrote: It would most definitely be an improvement unless the 6800 is PCI. lol. The new card would probably have better and/or more pipelines, pixel shaders...etc and the GPU clock speed will be faster. On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 6:11 PM, faithie999 faithie...@hotmail.com wrote: i'm running an XFX GeForce 6200 (flashed) video card in my Sawtooth. i'm wondering if a galaxy GeForce 6800 would be an appreciable improvement. thanks ken baker -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is athttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmland our netiquette guide is athttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GeForce 6800 vs 6200
if the video card draws too much power from the power supply, what will the symptoms be? if that turns out to be the case, i suppose i can rig an external 5v/ 12v power supply with a molex connector to supply the card ken On Feb 15, 11:31 am, Daniel Stewart daniel.stewart...@gmail.com wrote: I agree that you may need to check you power supply to make sure it can handle it, but gaming is not the only instance where hadware graphic acceleration is helpful. Anything graphics/video intensive will almost certainly benefit. I am not sure how that argument of the CPU being a bottleneck is relevant though unless I am completely misunderstanding their meaning. The whole reason a video card was invented in the first place was to take as much of the graphics related work off the CPU and system memory. So the best video card you can get away with should actually benefit a system with a modest CPU because the video card is handling most of the graphics workload. On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 6:08 AM, skinnie andre.fa...@ua.pt wrote: Guess it will only give some improvement if you game a lot, and even so the sawtooth cpu is already the bottleneck on the 6200. keep in mind that 6800 need good Power Supplys.. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is athttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmland our netiquette guide is athttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
GeForce 6800 vs 6200
i'm running an XFX GeForce 6200 (flashed) video card in my Sawtooth. i'm wondering if a galaxy GeForce 6800 would be an appreciable improvement. thanks ken baker -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
problems with AGP video in sawtooth
i have been experimenting with a sawtooth i picked up a few weeks ago. i have flashed several AGP video cards (all nVidia) i have in my parts bin. what i find is that it usually takes several (2-4) attempts to boot properly. the behavior of the monitor in a normal boot sequence is: gray apple screen with spinning gear wheel light blue screen for 2-3 seconds slightly darker blue screen for 1-2 seconds yet again slightly darker blue screen with arrow cursor in top right corner, for 1-2 seconds then normal desktop appears. when the agp cards don't boot properly, they display the gray apple screen, then hang at the first blue screen. sometimes i get the kernel panic screen after 5-10 seconds on the blue screen, other times it just hangs at the blue screen. for the cards where the Mac rom supports DVI, it makes no difference to the proper booting whether i'm using DVI or VGA output. eventually, after several resets, the machine boots properly. i flashed an nvidia 5500 PCI card, which boots flawlessly every time, but when the computer sleeps, the video card won't wake up. when using any of the agp cards (after proper booting) the computer sleeps and wakes properly. any ideas? thanks!! ken -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Flashing Video Card for G5?
i have a sawtooth (2x agp slot). i am getting ready to buy an XFX GeForce 6200, for which there is a rom in the macelite library. before i buy it, are you aware of a better card that has a 2x/4x/8x connector that i should look for? the macelite buying guide talks about a 6800, but the PC version apparently has a 64kb chip and the available Mac ROM for that card is 128kb. i don't think i'm up to replacing a rom chip! thanks! ken baker On Feb 2, 9:15 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Feb 2, 2011, at 8:09 PM, Jeremiah Stevens wrote: How do you flash video cards for Mac? I have a beautiful Dual G5 and the original 64MB card isn't doing it justice. Any links to a good tutorial site or video? or even a list of instructions with your method? Thanks! The best possible video card for an AGP PowerMac AFAIK is the nVidia GeForce 7800 512MB with 5.70 BIOS, and then you'll have to flash it to Mac. They're expensive, around $100 I think? Here's a flash guide:http://themacelite.wikidot.com/nvidia-geforce-7800 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Power Mac G4 wireless success story
just wanted to post a quick success story on adding wireless to my Sawtooth. based on advice from this thread http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/browse_thread/thread/19e74c46d9466fb3 i bought a mini-pci to pci adapter on ebay for about $6 including shipping. in my parts bin i had a mini-pci broadcom wireless card that i had salvaged from an old dell laptop. the mini-pci to pci adapter card came today. i installed the mini-pci broadcom card into it, attached the antenna cable (part of the PCI card assembly), inserted the PCI card in an open slot, and booted it up. the network control panel opened, said a new device had been detected, clicked OK, and the familiar wireless icon appeared in the menu bar. i clicked on the wireless icon, selected my home network, entered the password, and it connected and acquired an IP address just like it was supposed to! thanks to the posters in the above-referenced thread for the idea! that broadcom card from the old dell laptop was just gathering dust in my parts bin! ken -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Sawtooth to Sabretooth: The CPU upgrade question
running 9.2.2 with the Sonnet upgrade: there are two programs on the install CD that come with the processor upgrade. the instructions say to first update firmware, which you don't need to do since you're already at 4.2.8. then it says to run the program on the CD, under OS X, for OS X install. a couple of pages later, it says to run the other program under 9.2. i didn't discover this part of the instructions until i had changed the processor and tried to boot to 9.2, and the boot sequence stalled. then i RTFM and found the OS9 part. i put the old processor back in, booted 9.2, ran the OS 9 install program, then put the new processor back in, and all is well. what the OS 9 install program does is put two extensions in the extensions folder: Sonnet Processor Upgrade (with a space before the S so it loads first) and an updated version of Apple CPU Plugins, which is in the Multiprocessing folder within Extensions folder. then just for fun, i wanted to boot from an OS 9.2.2 install disk. of course it didn't boot properly due to the lack of those extensions (actually it's when i was trying to get it to boot that i realized that the installer must have installed extensions for the booting to work). i readily found the Sonnet extension but i needed to contact Sonnet tech support (who repllied within an hour!) to learn about the updated CPU plugin extension. so, i burned a new 9.2.2 install disk with Toast 5.1 after adding the sonnet extension and replacing the old CPU extension. boots fine--except i'm not sure when i'll ever need! no, i don't have enough to do with my time!! On Jan 26, 10:04 pm, Sean Carroll cedarwaxw...@att.net wrote: Thanks, Ken. i inherited a sawtooth a few weeks ago, and decided to keep it and upgrade it so i could run leopard and lightroom 2. Being able to run Leopard would be a bonus. Ironically, an important asset of more CPU firepower for me would be the ability to run some *older* software (old but more recent than 450 MHz as state-of-the- art). Digital recording software that requires a computer with some expandability, in case anyone is wondering why I'd want an old computer running old software when I'm planning to get a new Mac mini before too long. i bought a 1.6 ghz processor upgrade (Sonnet) from OWC (the link is on one of the low end mac Powermac upgrade pages). it took about 5 minutes to install--run the firmware mod utility that came with the new processor, remove the old processor, drop in the new one, and off to the races. Good to hear that it's as easy as advertised. Sonnet seems to get mixed reviews here with other stuff, but I haven't heard many bad reviews of their CPU upgrades. Maybe one. (in order to run the firmware updater to prepare for the new processor, the mac firmware needs to be at 4.2.8. My firmware is at 4.2.8 . I have OS 9.2.2 on a partition, and I also have the OS 9 install disc. Which reminds me - are you aware of any OS 9 complications involved in installing the Sonnet CPU upgrade? I know that a Newer Technology requires a bit of fuss and bother with removing something from some plug-ins folder (CPU. CMU, something) in OS 9 prior to the upgrade. It appears that you might not be running OS 9 (or at least weren't before the upgrade), but I just wondered if you noticed anything about it in the documentation or while running the firmware mod utility. Sean -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: wireless for powermac g4
great info--thanks! i happen to have a broadcomm mini-pci card that i had pulled from a dead dell laptop. i just ordered an adapter from ebay! thanks again ken On Jan 25, 12:21 pm, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: I recently acquired a Power Mac G4 Quicksilver (867mHZ, 1.25 gb RAM) and am in the process of upgrading and updating it. I've got most things on my list accomplished but I'm somewhat confused about what type of wireless would be best for this machine. If you want 100 percent Airport Extreme (802.11b/g) compatibility for the lowest possible cost, then the solution is available on ePrey (sic) for about US$10. First, you need a Mini-PCI (NO, not a Mini-PCI-e) Broadcom WiFi card. These cards are intended for use in Dell and similar laptops. Most of the laptop manufacturers have gone to a Mini-PCI-e WiFi card, which explains the low cost of these cards. Second, you need a Mini-PCI-to-PCI adapter which includes an R-SMA connector and cable. Finally, you need an R-SMA antenna. All of the above can be had for about US$10, total, although probably not all from the same seller. These products are often sold with shipping included in the price, usually shipped from Hong Kong or Singapore. I have about ten of these installed in systems. So far, no DOAs or other defects. About This Mac ... reports this system thusly: Software Versions: Menu Extra: 6.2.1 (621.1) configd plug-in: 6.2.3 (623.2) System Profiler: 6.0 (600.9) Network Preference: 6.2.1 (621.1) AirPort Utility: 5.5.2 (552.11) IO80211 Family: 3.1.2 (312) Interfaces: en0: Card Type: Third-Party Wireless Card Supported PHY Modes: 802.11 b/g Supported Channels: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 Current Network Information: PHY Mode: 802.11g BSSID: 0:50:18:4f:51:f8 Network Type: Infrastructure Security: WPA Personal Signal / Noise: -72 dBm / -93 dBm Transmit Rate: 24 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Sawtooth to Sabretooth: The CPU upgrade question
i inherited a sawtooth a few weeks ago, and decided to keep it and upgrade it so i could run leopard and lightroom 2. i bought a 1.6 ghz processor upgrade (Sonnet) from OWC (the link is on one of the low end mac Powermac upgrade pages). it took about 5 minutes to install--run the firmware mod utility that came with the new processor, remove the old processor, drop in the new one, and off to the races. (in order to run the firmware updater to prepare for the new processor, the mac firmware needs to be at 4.2.8. if you need to upgrade the firmware, it's still available on apple's download site. however, the updater app only runs in OS9. took me a couple of days to locate OS9 install disk and get it booted, and then to get the firmware updated.) then i erased the HD and did a clean install of leopard. it runs great. if you can spring for the processor i'd highly recommend it. ken On Jan 23, 9:00 am, dc dbc...@verizon.net wrote: On Jan 23, 3:57 am, Sean Carroll cedarwaxw...@att.net wrote: Current system: Power Mac G4 AGP 450 MHz, 1.25 GB RAM, 160 GB 40 GB hard drives (PATA), Gigabit Ethernet PCI Card, Mac OS X Tiger 10.4.11 and Mac OS 9.2.2 I've found a great deal of useful information about Power Mac G4 AGP CPU upgrades through Low End Mac and scouring the archives here. Personally I wouldn't think a processor upgrade, even a used one, would be worth it if you are getting a new Mac soon. Max out the RAM to 1.5 GB, that should only cost $20 or so. You can also run a freeware utility called Monolingual which will strip out the Intel and G5 architectures from your OS, along with the languages you don't need. It will save around a gig of disk space and let Tiger run much more efficiently. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New G4 user - many questions
On Jan 4, 3:30 pm, Greg Kennedy kennedy.g...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 3:31 PM, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: On Jan 2, 2011, at 12:54 PM, Greg Kennedy wrote: After some more time of thinking about it, I'm considering going with a really crazy solution and using 9.2.3 on the machine + Logic 6.4.3 + Pro Tools Free (if I can find it) + Finale 2003. Way outdated software but it's more than enough for our needs, and won't require any more hardware to be purchased (SB Live has OS9 drivers from what I understand, 640mb RAM should be enough too) Does OS 9, or any of the three tools I mentioned, support both processors in the dual 533 G4? If not I'll definitely go Tiger. That machine will run OS 9.2.2 in fine fashion, very fast. however you may need a special ROM to boot OS9 on that PowerMac G4. Thanks for all the tips everyone. I have another question about graphics cards. First, my progress: * Formatted, installed 9.2.1, upgraded to 9.2.2. Managed to complete the firmware upgrade to 4.2.8 (yay!). * Discovered that the SB Live 1.1 drivers will not work for me. I don't know why, but after installation it complains that the drivers were not installed properly and to try again. It could be that my card is not supported and the error message is just confusing. I tried searching for the 1.0rc1 drivers instead, hoping to install those first and then try a 1.1 upgrade, but I couldn't find them anywhere. * Also discovered that the Midisport Uno that I have is not OS9 compatible. http://forums.m-audio.com/archive/index.php/t-1985.html Okay so 9.2.2 is not going to work. About to install 10.4 Tiger from scratch instead, and simply hope for eventual recording support from the Kx Drivers project. I had a question about the graphics card. This is a Geforce 2 MX with 32MB of RAM. I have in the garage a Geforce 3 of some sort, which I think would benefit Tiger thanks to the higher speeds and more RAM. Can I drop this card in the AGP slot, or is it unlikely to work? I know there is something or other about changing firmware on a video card to make it Mac-compatible but I don't know anything about that. just today i decided to try to re-flash an old AGP card i had in my PC parts bin. i followed the directions on the website that Justin referenced: http://themacelite.wikidot.com/ to the letter. the key is finding the exact right mac BIOS for your video card. the mac elite website has a list of BIOS's, but i also found some on http://campahunta.free.fr/Downloads/ROMs/ i had to try a couple of different rom's for my card to find one that worked. i'd suggest googling different sites on reflashing PC video cards. you will pick up some good info, such as how to download and save the PC BIOS that is on your card, so that you can always go back to the orig BIOS if something gets screwed up when you try to flash the card with a mac BIOS good luck!! -Greg -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Newer Technology MaxPower processor upgrade
has anyone tried one of these upgrades? the 7447A or 7448? i have a Sawtooth G4 that i'd like to use for Photoshop CS5. i know it won't be blazing fast with either of these upgrades. does anyone have experience with either of these? the company's web site shows comparative speed data between each processor and the native G4 processor, but there is no data showing a comparison between the 7447A and the 7448. thanks ken -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New G4 user - many questions
* The DVD burner drive I installed, an IBM-branded Hitachi HL_DT_ST G10N, is recognized only as a CD reader. It won't burn DVDs and blank DVDs are simply ejected. I don't know anything about locating Mac drivers or if that is even necessary. I want to burn some DMGs or audio CDs from here. I've found that Roxio Toast 7 Titanium is supported on 10.3, can this tool burn DVDs even where OS X can't recognize the drive? i am getting a Sawtooth G4 up and running. it only had a dvd/cd reader in it. i rebuild old PC's so i have a stock of dvd writers in the basement. i had go thru 3 or 4 different readers to find one that would recognize DVD's or CD's during boot (for installing software) AND burn DVD's. * Wireless - this has no Airport card in the little Airport card slot. I have no idea how to go about finding a solution for this and, probably, won't bother. I would imagine the expense would be pretty high for a compatible card. there is a seller on ebay that has several original (802.11b) apple airport cards for sale. http://cgi.ebay.com/802-11b-WiFi-Wireless-Card-Airport-PowerMac-G4-iBook-G3-/250675292969?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3a5d696b29 That's a lot of issues and I haven't even gotten to installing the software I want to use. In fact I've been thinking about this project on a grander scale and I am wondering if even my Step 1 was a bad choice, and I should have gone with either 9.2 (and really outdated hardware) or 10.4 (though the system requirements seem steep). I would be willing to go 10.4 if I knew that this hardware would run it faster than 10.3. Otherwise I don't want to bother. This is one of those set it up and let it sit installations, I want everything perfected the first time so I don't have to get in and mess around with things later. as with your machine, this one had never had its firmware updated. i installed an old, small HD and installed OS9.1. rather than get it running on ethernet, i downloaded the firmware update to a usb drive then transferred it to the G4. it ran and updated successfully. you didn't mention it specifically, but as for upgrading to leopard: i agree with others that it is slower than tiger, but if you want to install it in order to take advantage of any of leopard's features (eg, time machine), first, install a DVD reader that will recognize a bootable disk when you boot while holding the option key. then you can use LeopardAssist to fake out the macine during boot that it has a fast enough processor to allow the leopard installation. good luck! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
