Re: 'Greyed' screen
At 11:54 PM -0500 1/3/2011, Bill Connelly wrote: On Jan 3, 2011, at 10:22 PM, peter wrote: It's just the windows, text, certain icons at the top of the screen (Growl, Is Growl trying to tell you something is happening in the background? Incoming call or something? Not sure how Growl works, although I have it loaded but turned off. Growl is a simple notification system; a small background application and a preferences pane. The icon in the menu bar is totally unnecessary; it can be turned off. When an app growls, Growl displays a small alert on the screen, containing the message from the app, in the style you've selected. If multiple notifications arrive quickly, then Growl tiles them down your screen. (you can easily make them all go away by opt-clicking one). That's all it does. It does nothing that would account for a whole screen going gray. At 1:08 AM -0500 1/4/2011, PETER WARNER wrote: Famous Last Word... As per Alex, I checked Console, and there were a bunch of errors fro Growl But you don't want to disclose them? It would help if you showed us the actual error message involved! What else is there? What else do you have running on your Mac? Have you changed any of the transparency settings? and it seems a Growl like action, to reduce most of the screen while showing an alert. I stopped Growl, and Growl Mail, and restarted. Logging out, and back in did not work, it had to be a full restart. Perhaps I'll avoid the Growl in the future... Growl does NOT gray out the whole screen, ever. Growl is run as a USER process. Logging out kills the processes - no reboot needed. If you needed to reboot to clear things then *something else* is doing this. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 'Greyed' screen
If you needed to reboot to clear things then *something else* is doing this. - Dan. OK Dan, When I get home I will go back into console to find the errors, but the only other things I saw were some droped frame errors from VLC earier in the day. I did have VLC, Mail, EyeTV Light, Remote Buddy, and Firefox running (and Growl/Growl Mail) I had Dashboard off. I don't always have to reboot to get it to go away. there have been times when, after ten min. it goes away on it's own. The icon in the menu bar is totally unnecessary; it can be turned off. I only mentioned the icon because most of the menu bar icons turned grey, and that was among the ones that did not. Growl does NOT gray out the whole screen, ever. I thought it might have had to do with the profile settings in Growl, I know different ones look very different, and that perhaps they could do more than the regular notification under certian conditions? Any other ideas about what it could be? Again, I don't see any difference in performance. It's more of an agervation. Peter -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 'Greyed' screen
At 9:21 AM -0800 1/4/2011, peter wrote: Any other ideas about what it could be? Again, I don't see any difference in performance. It's more of an agervation. Very strange! Um... Reseat the video card. Then disconnect, clean, reseat the video cable. Also check power - make sure nothing is fluctuation, everything is properly surge protected etc. Check energy and screen saver settings. Graying the whole screen... I've seen apps like VLC get stuck half way when switching to full screen mode. But that usually clears when the resource (usually memory) becomes available. Next time it happens, please immediately hit shift-cmd-3 to get a screen shot. Zip it, and both your current system.log and console.log and email 'the archive directly to me. I'll take a look... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
'Greyed' screen
Every once in a while, almost everything on my screen gets less saturated. It is as if I had increased the brightness setting, except... it does not affect everything. My desktop image is not affected, not is the apple icon in the upper right, nor images I open, nor videos..?...? It's just the windows, text, certain icons at the top of the screen (Growl, Bluetooth, and User name being notable exceptions) and dock icons. What could this possibly be? My machine: Gig E G4, 10.4.11, 1GB ram ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128 mb -1360x768 @ 60hz -32-bit color Acer X183H LCD monitor (VGA) PCI cards: -6 port USB2 -M-Audio revolution 5.1 2 external HDs 2 internal PATA drives Thanks, Peter -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 'Greyed' screen
On Jan 3, 2011, at 9:22 PM, peter wrote: What could this possibly be? Something related to Exposé? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 'Greyed' screen
On Jan 3, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Jan 3, 2011, at 9:22 PM, peter wrote: What could this possibly be? Something related to Exposé? It is not when I'm using Expose actively. Tonight, I was in the middle of looking at the G-Group list online, and it suddenly happened, my mouse was not near the hot corner for expose... I have not been able to trace it to any certain activity, or level of activity. It happens (seemingly) randomly, and then goes away randomly. The only thing that I can guarantee to make it go away is a restart. However it will often go away on it's own, after varying periods of time. if it was the whole screen, I would think it was an issue with the video card, or monitor, but I have those odd exceptions. BTW it does not affect my ability to do anything. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 'Greyed' screen
Check in the console to see what process it is that is doing that. On Jan 3, 2011, at 9:35 PM, PETER WARNER wrote: On Jan 3, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Jan 3, 2011, at 9:22 PM, peter wrote: What could this possibly be? Something related to Exposé? It is not when I'm using Expose actively. Tonight, I was in the middle of looking at the G-Group list online, and it suddenly happened, my mouse was not near the hot corner for expose... I have not been able to trace it to any certain activity, or level of activity. It happens (seemingly) randomly, and then goes away randomly. The only thing that I can guarantee to make it go away is a restart. However it will often go away on it's own, after varying periods of time. if it was the whole screen, I would think it was an issue with the video card, or monitor, but I have those odd exceptions. BTW it does not affect my ability to do anything. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 'Greyed' screen
On Jan 3, 2011, at 10:22 PM, peter wrote: Every once in a while, ... It's just the windows, text, certain icons at the top of the screen (Growl, Is Growl trying to tell you something is happening in the background? Incoming call or something? Not sure how Growl works, although I have it loaded but turned off. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 'Greyed' screen
Is Growl trying to tell you something is happening in the background? Incoming call or something? No, In the top bar, where the icons for volume, fast user switching, displays, etc go, there is a Growl icon. The rest are about 80% grey (though still accessible) but Growl, Bluetooth, and My user name for Fast user switching are black. Speaking of fast user switching, when I switch to my wife's login, it is still Grey. It looks as though some process is trying to get my attention, but there is no alert window, or anything. Peter -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 'Greyed' screen
On Jan 4, 2011, at 12:44 AM, PETER WARNER wrote: Is Growl trying to tell you something is happening in the background? Incoming call or something? No, ... Famous Last Word... As per Alex, I checked Console, and there were a bunch of errors fro Growl, and it seems a Growl like action, to reduce most of the screen while showing an alert. I stopped Growl, and Growl Mail, and restarted. Logging out, and back in did not work, it had to be a full restart. Perhaps I'll avoid the Growl in the future... Thanks Guys, Peter -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
