Re: Best OS X?
I'd put 10.5.8 on it. I just set up a G4 iBook 1GHZ with Leopard and it ran great. -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Best OS X?
On Mar 30, 2011, at 1:22 AM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: I'd put 10.5.8 on it. I just set up a G4 iBook 1GHZ with Leopard and it ran great. With 10.4.11 it would run great 20-30% faster. Don't take my word for it, here's some measured results: 10.4.11 Xbench score 37.78: http://db.xbench.com/merge.xhtml?doc1=443708 10.5.2 Xbench score 23.71 http://db.xbench.com/merge.xhtml?doc1=287855 Note, there were no Xbench scores for 10.5.8 on a 1GHz iBook, but you could test yours independently and upload your result to the Xbench archives. As I have said previously, the difference in speed is noticeable on my 1.58GHz Mini, and applies to all PPC Macs running Leopard. The strange thing is that for Intel Macs Leopard runs faster than Tiger, while for PPC Macs Leopard runs slower. This means if you had an Intel Mac that was identical speed to a PPC Mac in Tiger, when you installed Leopard onto both, the Intel Mac would seem blazing and the PPC Mac really slow when they were previously identical under Tiger. I believe this is evidence of planned obsolescence by Apple, similar to the way Intel compilers produce code that runs slower on AMD CPUs, and faster on Intel CPUs, when there should be little or no difference. I know of no logical reason that Leopard should vary so dramatically from Tiger unless someone was purposefully looking for these specific results. Apple has done similar shenanigans in the past, for example underclocking the original 500MHz iceBook's bus speed to 66MHz because at its native 100MHz it was a faster computer than the TiBook still being sold. Apple was moving to Intel, and slowing down PPC Macs was a good tactic for forcing the issue. Tiger is the fastest PPC Mac version of OS X if you have sufficient RAM, HD space, and a supported video card. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Best OS X?
Hi, everyone :-) First, my apologies for posting this on the wrong list. I've tried to post to the G4 Books list a few times, but my posts aren't being approved there. I haven't gotten any rejection emails, so don't know if my posts are making it to the moderators. :-( What's the best/newest version of OS X for my 1.33 GHz PowerPC G4 PowerBook? Currently, I'm running 10.3.9 and experiencing limitations in browser/Flash upgrades, etc. Currently have 1.5 GB memory. And ... while on the subject of my much-loved PowerBook ... I'm considering purchasing a new MacBook Pro and will then need to sell the G4. I haven't been active on the LEM Swap list lately, but a quick search of posts hasn't brought up any recent listings for them. Anyone have ideas as to the best place to find current reasonable values for them? I've looked some on eBay, but not sure I trust what I see there. It's an awesome PowerBook, and I know I'll have to upgrade in the not- too-distant future, but still trying to keep it as functional as possible for it's remaining time with me. Thanks! Jean -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Best OS X?
Hi Jean I really do feel your pain Re: the G4 books list, I have the very same problem. I am quite surprised you have been allowed to discuss your PB here. Having been told where to go previously. You don't really need to go any further than this article http://lowendmac.com/ed/campbell/08ic/best-version-of-mac-os-x.html I am running 10.5 on my 1.5GHz PBG4 and with 1.5GB of ram. I use Tenfourfox for browsing and all fine and nippy. regards selling, if you go to ebay and select 'completed listings on the left of the page', this will show you the PB's that sold, for how much and of course, you can view their spec's. This, I think is the decent way to gauge current values. I think there should be plenty of life left in it yet. Mine, bar a minor graphics issue, is running smoothly. Jay -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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I LOVE 10.4 on my older Mac's (PowerBook G4 is one of them). TenFourFox is still being developed to this day, and you still can have the latest flash (although not through the normal installer way). Mike On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 6:32 AM, Jonathan Smith jonathan.newcas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jean I really do feel your pain Re: the G4 books list, I have the very same problem. I am quite surprised you have been allowed to discuss your PB here. Having been told where to go previously. You don't really need to go any further than this article http://lowendmac.com/ed/campbell/08ic/best-version-of-mac-os-x.html I am running 10.5 on my 1.5GHz PBG4 and with 1.5GB of ram. I use Tenfourfox for browsing and all fine and nippy. regards selling, if you go to ebay and select 'completed listings on the left of the page', this will show you the PB's that sold, for how much and of course, you can view their spec's. This, I think is the decent way to gauge current values. I think there should be plenty of life left in it yet. Mine, bar a minor graphics issue, is running smoothly. Jay -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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I'm running 10.5.8 on my 12 iBook 1.2GHz with 768MB of RAM and its quick and fine for everything from some games to web browsing. From: thejean...@gmail.com thejean...@gmail.com To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 7:54 AM Subject: Best OS X? Hi, everyone :-) First, my apologies for posting this on the wrong list. I've tried to post to the G4 Books list a few times, but my posts aren't being approved there. I haven't gotten any rejection emails, so don't know if my posts are making it to the moderators. :-( What's the best/newest version of OS X for my 1.33 GHz PowerPC G4 PowerBook? Currently, I'm running 10.3.9 and experiencing limitations in browser/Flash upgrades, etc. Currently have 1.5 GB memory. And ... while on the subject of my much-loved PowerBook ... I'm considering purchasing a new MacBook Pro and will then need to sell the G4. I haven't been active on the LEM Swap list lately, but a quick search of posts hasn't brought up any recent listings for them. Anyone have ideas as to the best place to find current reasonable values for them? I've looked some on eBay, but not sure I trust what I see there. It's an awesome PowerBook, and I know I'll have to upgrade in the not- too-distant future, but still trying to keep it as functional as possible for it's remaining time with me. Thanks! Jean -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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i think 10.5.8 works nice, works awesome on my Powerbook g4 and as browser goes i use: http://www.rpm-mozilla.org.uk/builds/camino/ -- Ovi Mail: Making email access easy http://mail.ovi.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Best OS X?
On Mar 29, 2011, at 6:54 AM, thejean...@gmail.com wrote: What's the best/newest version of OS X for my 1.33 GHz PowerPC G4 PowerBook? I had a friend with a 1.67GHz PowerBook that I upgraded to 10.5.8 and he hated it, and made me downgrade it back to 10.4.11. He mainly used Adobe Photoshop, and said that it was crawling slow in Leopard compared to Tiger. If you look on the Xbench or GeekBench archives, you'll see that Tiger is the fastest for all PPC G4 Macs, and you'll get a substantial slowdown with Leopard, usually in the 20-30% range. There are a few advantages to Leopard. Time Machine for backup is probably the largest advantage. Spaces for multiple (albeit slow) Desktops is another advantage. Some software such as the latest VLC will only run on Leopard. There are also disadvantages to Leopard. One is that Leopard is universal so that it's going to be at least twice a large as Tiger because it's loaded down with both the PPC Intel versions of the System software. This makes it easy to migrate from PPC to Intel, but bloats your HD with useless code. You can removed this useless Intel code using Monolingual or Xslimmer, but this can break some Adobe software, so read the manual before striping out Intel code. I'd recommend Tiger 10.4.11 for all PPC G4 Macs unless you can live without smooth video and with 20+% slower overall functionality. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On 2011/03/29 05:54, thejean...@gmail.com so eloquently wrote: What's the best/newest version of OS X for my 1.33 GHz PowerPC G4 PowerBook? Currently, I'm running 10.3.9 and experiencing limitations in browser/Flash upgrades, etc. Currently have 1.5 GB memory. I recently went back to 10.4 Tiger from 10.5 Leopard on both my iMac and PowerBook. I've lost some software options and features (QuickLook being the one I miss most) but I've gained stability. Also my BOINC Recent Average Credit has gone up, meaning that Tiger is using less resources than Leopard did. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.4.11 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
