USB Bluetooth dongle for G4 compatible with new wireless devices?

2012-04-19 Thread Sean Carroll
Could someone tell me if I could anticipate a problem in trying to get  
a new Apple wireless keyboard and Magic Trackpad to work with Power  
Mac G4s (Sawtooth, Gig-E) by way of either of the 2 IOGear devices  
shown on the following page:


http://eshop.macsales.com/search/USB+Bluetooth+dongle

I don't know if it's matter of compatible Bluetooth specs (which I  
can't find written anywhere for the keyboard, and the question seems  
to occur to me only when I'm NOT on the new Mac mini to look it up  
there) or if it's just no go with anything pre-Snow Leopard. By the  
way, I didn't get the new wireless stuff FOR the G4s, of course, and a  
trackpad isn't going to turn Leopard into Lion, but it would be sweet  
if they would also function - basically - with the old workhorses. For  
sure.


Thank you.

Sean

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Bluetooth

2010-10-01 Thread Norm Rowe


  
  
I have a working bluetooth dongle which no longer works. I shut down
my G4 mac running OS 10.5.8 and now my apple blue tooth key board
does not work. I have tried restarting, shutting down and unplugging
to know avail. Any ideas what might fix it. Like I said it was
working fine.
P.S. I'm a long time Mac user
Norm
  




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Re: Bluetooth

2010-10-01 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Oct 1, 2010, at 6:05 PM, Norm Rowe wrote:

I have a working bluetooth dongle which no longer works. I shut down  
my G4 mac running OS 10.5.8 and now my apple blue tooth key board  
does not work. I have tried restarting, shutting down and unplugging  
to know avail. Any ideas what might fix it. Like I said it was  
working fine.



1) Check the batteries in the keyboard
2) re-pair the keyboard with the bluetooth
3) check it on another mac

If it's a USB bluetooth dongle, it's entirely possible that it just up  
and died. They're pretty cheap, here
s one for $3 from Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-USB-Micro-Adapter-Dongle/dp/B001EBE1LI 



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Re: But Mini, I don't HAVE a Bluetooth Mouse!

2010-05-11 Thread Anne Keller-Smith

Hiya Yersinia ~

On May 10, 2010, at 2:47 PM, ===( )8 wrote:
although I have no idea how Bluetooth prefs got turned on in the  
Mini in the first place):


The radiation from the sun messes everything up eventually - including  
our genes and our OS's. Could be just an OS degradation of some kind.  
Although your description of activities might have done something too.  
Sometimes there's no explanation except that computers do strange  
things. Fortunately with the Macs, most of the time they're fine.


Anne Keller Smith
Down to Earth Web Design

Intel iMac 2.4gHz Core 2 Duo
1GB RAM, 250GB Hard Drive, OS 10.5.5

Intel iMac 2.66gHz Core 2 Duo
2GB RAM, 264GB Hard Drive, OS 10.5.6

G4 Quicksilver 733mHz Tower
896 MB RAM, 40 GB hard drive, OS 10.4.11

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Re: But Mini, I don't HAVE a Bluetooth Mouse!

2010-05-10 Thread ===( )8

Kris Tilford writes,

And why haven't you updated to 10.4.11?

My Quicksilver 867 DOES run 10.4.11. I bought the Mini SPECIFICALLY 
because it had 10.4.2 on it and included 10.4.2 system CDs, ON PURPOSE 
BECAUSE I WANTED IT to be my Sims Mac! 10.4.3 and up FRICKIN BOLLOXES 
The Sims Create-a-Sim, Wardrobe and Pet Adoption graphics, OK? It was 
buy the Mini with 10.4.2 or DOWNGRADE THE QUICKSILVER (which came with 
10.4.7 on it, then I updated it to 10.4.8, 10.4.9; I skipped the 10.4.10 
update but went to 10.4.11) -- because playing Sims on it with that 
graphics bolloxing had been DRIVING ME INSANE, and it's a royal pain in 
the butt to be rebooting from the Tiger drive just to make a new sim, or 
going back and forth to the iBook to do the same thing! Yes, that's the 
original Sims, not the newer Sims 2 or Sims 3 games -- I don't like the 
new versions (got to try Sims 2 at a friend's house, didn't like it and 
don't like what I saw of Sims 3 either). And for the zillionth time -- I 
DON'T WANT TO give up the old stuff, I ENJOY IT, remember?


I apologize to newer G-Listers for blowing up like this, but there's 
been this thing going on for years around here because I run older 
Macs and older OS's and do not want to upgrade because the older 
Macs/OS's do what *I* want to do with my computers. Yeah I was an OS 9 
diehard too and got kicked to OS X at all when I got the 
aforementioned 867 Quicksilver.


That said, time to move on here:

And what's the delay? Safe boot holding the Shift key. Go to System 
PreferencesNetworkBluetooth and turn it off (or even delete it using 
the - button IF you have no bluetooth devices you're using now).


The delay was I couldn't remember if shift key + power button IS 
actually how to safe boot (I've never had to actually DO it that I 
recall; safe booting is something I've only heard OF -- my Macs rarely 
give me trouble), and I didn't know how to turn off the Bluetooth once I 
got there, and I got sleepy/had to go to bed shortly after writing last 
night, so didn't catch the confirmation and instructions until this 
morning. But now I'm awake, got it, and I just tried it. Well, I tried a 
safe boot, anyway: and I got exactly the same thing I was upset about 
yesterday -- the Bluetooth dialog box whining at me for a bluetooth 
mouse, with the cursor frozen in the top left of the screen. I did it 
twice, same thing happened.


Now I'm wondering if I should try an archive-reinstall...but to me that 
seems kind of drastic. Is there anything less drastic I can try?


Thanks,

~Yersinia.

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Re: But Mini, I don't HAVE a Bluetooth Mouse!

2010-05-10 Thread Richard Gerome
Hey Yersinia,
   I'm wondering if you ran a software update right before this happened??? If 
so they always bring up those blue tooth updates and I always delete them and 
what ever I do not use or need... If something does slip through I open up the 
HD and go to applications folder and delete anything in there I do not use or 
need... If you can change the settings for software updates to never check for 
them and do it manually do it???  You may have to do a clean and reinstall 
(make sure you save any files to a USB storage device or even an iPod if you 
have one), when it's done do your software updates manually even if you have to 
go to Apples website to find the right OS update in their archives (but I think 
you said your CD is 10.4.2 and that is what you are using?) if not and you 
can't run the latest OS 10.4.11, find the one you need in the archives from 
Apple's website... I'm thinking if you didn't run any software updates maybe 
someone else did and didn't tell you??? I always delete stuff out of my machine 
that I do not use because it frees it up and runs a little faster... There is a 
program out there too and it's free monolingual 1.3.9 to delete all the 
languages out that you don't use, when you run this program it takes a very 
long time to run so it removes a whole lot of languages (I never realized there 
were that many)... Sometimes it's just easier to do a clean and reinstall 
instead of spending hrs or days trying to fix it...




-Original Message-
From: ===( )8 yersi...@verizon.net
Sent: May 10, 2010 10:04 AM
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: But Mini, I don't HAVE a Bluetooth Mouse!

Kris Tilford writes,

And why haven't you updated to 10.4.11?

My Quicksilver 867 DOES run 10.4.11. I bought the Mini SPECIFICALLY 
because it had 10.4.2 on it and included 10.4.2 system CDs, ON PURPOSE 
BECAUSE I WANTED IT to be my Sims Mac! 10.4.3 and up FRICKIN BOLLOXES 
The Sims Create-a-Sim, Wardrobe and Pet Adoption graphics, OK? It was 
buy the Mini with 10.4.2 or DOWNGRADE THE QUICKSILVER (which came with 
10.4.7 on it, then I updated it to 10.4.8, 10.4.9; I skipped the 10.4.10 
update but went to 10.4.11) -- because playing Sims on it with that 
graphics bolloxing had been DRIVING ME INSANE, and it's a royal pain in 
the butt to be rebooting from the Tiger drive just to make a new sim, or 
going back and forth to the iBook to do the same thing! Yes, that's the 
original Sims, not the newer Sims 2 or Sims 3 games -- I don't like the 
new versions (got to try Sims 2 at a friend's house, didn't like it and 
don't like what I saw of Sims 3 either). And for the zillionth time -- I 
DON'T WANT TO give up the old stuff, I ENJOY IT, remember?

I apologize to newer G-Listers for blowing up like this, but there's 
been this thing going on for years around here because I run older 
Macs and older OS's and do not want to upgrade because the older 
Macs/OS's do what *I* want to do with my computers. Yeah I was an OS 9 
diehard too and got kicked to OS X at all when I got the 
aforementioned 867 Quicksilver.


Thanks,

~Yersinia.



Scars only tell us where we have been, they do not have to dictate where we are 
going...

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Re: But Mini, I don't HAVE a Bluetooth Mouse!

2010-05-10 Thread ===( )8

Okay update -- all seems to be good now.

Was having problems with safe booting (three times total, holding shift 
and power to boot up gave me that same Bluetooth nonsense with the stuck 
cursor), and I had forgotten about OPTION-restart. I should also 
mention, on account of the stuck cursor, I reseated the Mini's 
connections to the KVM switch. Dunno if it helped, but at least I 
thought of it and did it. A Google search leading to a PDF manual for my 
Mini reminded me of Option-Restart, so I did that, and THEN held down 
shift while restarting, and THEN my Mini booted in Safe Mode (it told me 
it was in safe mode and asked me to log in, which it didn't do before, 
so apparently those prior attempts to boot in safe mode were totally 
malfunctional).


In any case, now that I was in, yes, I went to System Prefs, found 
Bluetooth and shut it all the hell down. I honestly have no idea how it 
got turned on in the first place!


Just did a normal restart (from the Mini's Apple menu) and all's well 
with that too. Guess I can put my Mini's system CDs away now. ;-)


Thank you!

~Yersinia.

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Re: But Mini, I don't HAVE a Bluetooth Mouse!

2010-05-10 Thread ===( )8

Richard Gerome writes,

 I'm wondering if you ran a software update right before this happened??? 

[snip]

Nope, I'm keeping this machine totally UN-updated! ;-) LOL

Thank goodness it's fixed now. But thank you for writing.

~Yersinia.

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Re: But Mini, I don't HAVE a Bluetooth Mouse!

2010-05-10 Thread ===( )8

Richard Gerome writes,

 I'm wondering if you ran a software update right before this happened??? 

[snip]

Nope, I'm keeping this machine totally UN-updated! ;-) LOL

Thank goodness it's fixed now. But thank you for writing.

~Yersinia.

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Re: But Mini, I don't HAVE a Bluetooth Mouse!

2010-05-10 Thread Clark Martin

On 5/10/10 10:04 AM, ===( )8 wrote:

Okay update -- all seems to be good now.

Was having problems with safe booting (three times total, holding shift
and power to boot up gave me that same Bluetooth nonsense with the stuck
cursor), and I had forgotten about OPTION-restart. I should also
mention, on account of the stuck cursor, I reseated the Mini's
connections to the KVM switch. Dunno if it helped, but at least I
thought of it and did it. A Google search leading to a PDF manual for my
Mini reminded me of Option-Restart, so I did that, and THEN held down
shift while restarting, and THEN my Mini booted in Safe Mode (it told me
it was in safe mode and asked me to log in, which it didn't do before,
so apparently those prior attempts to boot in safe mode were totally
malfunctional).


It might well have been a problem with the KVM switch.  That would 
account for the stuck cursor (no mouse connection), the failure to 
safe boot (no keyboard connection) and possibly the bogus bluetooth 
mouse (maybe, because it didn't see a wired mouse and figured you had a 
bluetooth mouse).






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Re: But Mini, I don't HAVE a Bluetooth Mouse!

2010-05-10 Thread ===( )8

Clark Martin writes,

It might well have been a problem with the KVM switch.  That would 
account for the stuck cursor (no mouse connection), the failure to 
safe boot (no keyboard connection) and possibly the bogus bluetooth 
mouse (maybe, because it didn't see a wired mouse and figured you had a 
bluetooth mouse).


Oh wow! Yeah, the KVM acting momentarily wonky DOES sound like a 
possible explanation. Oh wait, how's THIS (although I have no idea how 
Bluetooth prefs got turned on in the Mini in the first place):


Yup, yesterday I WAS messing around with wiring back there-- my new 
wireless router (another used D-Link 2.4 GHz) had died, and, since all 
that stuff (router/ethernet hub when router is dead, DSL modem, 
printer's Farallon ethernet thingie and the KVM box) lives in a major 
nest of wires, maybe it's possible some things got a little tugged 
on/loosened by mistake when I had to remove the dead router and hook 
everything back up to the ethernet hub (till I can get another 
router...sigh). Still though, that was late morning/early afternoon, and 
all was well throughout the day and evening going back and forth between 
the Mini to Sim and the Quicksilver to do stuff online, until late last 
night. For a reason I can't recall anymore, I had shut down my Sims 
game, gone to the Quicksilver to do something else for a bit, and 
decided I'd let the game reboot while I was taking my shower -- only to 
discover on going back to the Mini to reboot the game, I got that 
Bluetooth stuff!


I think I'm getting too old for this..

~Yersinia.

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Re: But Mini, I don't HAVE a Bluetooth Mouse!

2010-05-10 Thread Clark Martin

On 5/10/10 11:47 AM, ===( )8 wrote:

Clark Martin writes,

It might well have been a problem with the KVM switch. That would
account for the stuck cursor (no mouse connection), the failure to
safe boot (no keyboard connection) and possibly the bogus bluetooth
mouse (maybe, because it didn't see a wired mouse and figured you had a
bluetooth mouse).

Oh wow! Yeah, the KVM acting momentarily wonky DOES sound like a
possible explanation. Oh wait, how's THIS (although I have no idea how
Bluetooth prefs got turned on in the Mini in the first place):


My reasoning for the Bluetooth (thin, I know) is that I believe new Macs 
will automatically look for a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard if wired 
versions aren't connected at first start up.  Now why it would decide to 
do this on an existing, operating system, I have no idea.



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But Mini, I don't HAVE a Bluetooth Mouse!

2010-05-09 Thread ===( )8

Hiya Listers,

Can anyone tell me why my G4 1.5 GHz Mini (OS X Tiger 10.4.2, 
deliberately!) thinks I have a Bluetooth Mouse and insists I produce it?


I had to restart my Mini because it locked up when I plugged my USB 
external HD into it (something I've done successfully before), but along 
with the desktop coming up, the Bluetooth Setup Assistant is trying 
unsuccessfully to find a Bluetooth mouse. All I have is optical mice 
which (up until a few minutes ago with the Mini here) worked fine. My 
present mouse is a Logitech optical 2 button scroll wheel mouse which 
I've been using and it's still working fine on my Quicksilver 867 
(through the KVM) which I'm using right now to write this post.  Anyway:


Where's this Bluetooth stuff coming from? I don't own any Bluetooth 
peripherals of any kind, much less ever tried to set that up on my Mini. 
 It's whining the following:


Pairing with your Bluetooth mouse

When your mouse is found, it will be paired with your computer. If your 
mouse is not found, make sure it is discoverable. If you are using an 
Apple Wireless Mouse, slide the cover on the bottom of the mouse to 
expose the LED. For a non-Apple mouse, see the documentation that came 
with the mouse.


Need to know what to do to be able to start up the Mini and NOT get 
this. Never had this happen before...


Thanks in advance,

~Yersinia.

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Re: But Mini, I don't HAVE a Bluetooth Mouse!

2010-05-09 Thread Charles Lenington

===( )8 wrote:

Hiya Listers,

Can anyone tell me why my G4 1.5 GHz Mini (OS X Tiger 10.4.2, 
deliberately!) thinks I have a Bluetooth Mouse and insists I produce it?


I had to restart my Mini because it locked up when I plugged my USB 
external HDT

Try going into the bluetooth prefs and turn off blue tooth.

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Re: But Mini, I don't HAVE a Bluetooth Mouse!

2010-05-09 Thread ===( )8

Charles Lenington writes,

Try going into the bluetooth prefs and turn off blue tooth.

No can do. :-( I can't do ANYTHING with the Mini the way it is now. The 
cursor arrow is STUCK in the upper left side of the screen while the 
little gear in the dialog box screaming for a Bluetooth mouse spins and 
keeps telling me no mice have been found...


Jack Countryman writes,

Why is Bluetooth turned on, if you do not use any Bluetooth peripherals?

Dunno. I never touched it that I can recall. Like I said, I've never had 
this happen, never seen it before.


What happens if you safe boot and turn Bluetooth off, then reboot 
normally?


How do you shut off Bluetooth from a safe boot? Safe boot = boot while 
holding the shift key, right?


Or is there some sort of Bluetooth preference/history file from some 
othertime when someone (maybe someone other than you?) had such a device 
around your computer when Bluetooth was turned on?


1. No idea. I bought my Mini from someone on the LEM Swap list, but I 
did my own install of the OS using the 10.4.2 system CD which was included.


2. Not that I'm aware of, but maybe. My boyfriend always has his work 
laptop (ouch, a Windoze box) with him when he comes over, and he has 
this little wireless card-sorta-thing for Verizon wireless Internet 
access which he uses for work (is this a Bluetooth device possibly?), 
but that stuff is always in the living room and the Mini is in the 
bedroom.other than that little wireless card-sorta-thing for his 
Verizon wireless account, at the moment I have no idea what else he's 
got that might be Bluetooth.


Well, I'll be happy to try a safe mode boot (confirm please, shift-power 
button?) and turn off Bluetooth that way if you can tell me how.




Thanks,

~Yersinia.


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Re: But Mini, I don't HAVE a Bluetooth Mouse!

2010-05-09 Thread Kris Tilford

On May 9, 2010, at 10:56 PM, ===( )8 wrote:


Charles Lenington writes,

Try going into the bluetooth prefs and turn off blue tooth.

No can do. :-( I can't do ANYTHING with the Mini the way it is now.  
The cursor arrow is STUCK in the upper left side of the screen while  
the little gear in the dialog box screaming for a Bluetooth mouse  
spins and keeps telling me no mice have been found...


Jack Countryman writes,

Why is Bluetooth turned on, if you do not use any Bluetooth  
peripherals?


Dunno. I never touched it that I can recall. Like I said, I've never  
had this happen, never seen it before.


What happens if you safe boot and turn Bluetooth off, then reboot  
normally?


How do you shut off Bluetooth from a safe boot? Safe boot = boot  
while holding the shift key, right?


Or is there some sort of Bluetooth preference/history file from  
some othertime when someone (maybe someone other than you?) had such  
a device around your computer when Bluetooth was turned on?


1. No idea. I bought my Mini from someone on the LEM Swap list, but  
I did my own install of the OS using the 10.4.2 system CD which was  
included.


And why haven't you updated to 10.4.11?

Well, I'll be happy to try a safe mode boot (confirm please, shift- 
power button?) and turn off Bluetooth that way if you can tell me how.


And what's the delay? Safe boot holding the Shift key. Go to System  
PreferencesNetworkBluetooth and turn it off (or even delete it using  
the - button IF you have no bluetooth devices you're using now).


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Re: Bluetooth card compatibility?

2009-11-07 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Nov 6, 2009, at 9:55 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:



 On Nov 6, 2009, at 6:50 PM, Bill Connelly wrote:



 On Nov 6, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:


 Just curious if this bluetooth card that I took out of my MDD dual
 1.25 (fw800) will work in my G5 early 2005? Jeff


 Is it a PCI card¿

 Does the early G5 and MDD have the same PCI slots? of does the early
 G5 have PCI-X? maybe both¿?

 Maybe Mactracker could answer your question ... or the manufacturer's
 specs on the Bliuetooth PCI card ...


 No, it's not a PCI card... it's actually the small bluetooth module
 that was meant as an optional add-on from apple. Jeff

Does it even fit on the MB? if it does it may well work; on the other  
hand, Bluetooth USB dongles (which will all work, regardless of brand  
or specifications from the mfr.) are really cheap.



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Bluetooth

2009-04-09 Thread norm46

I want to purchase a wireless Apple keyboard but they use Bluetooth.
My G4 PPC does not have this. Can bluetooth be added and at what cost?
Norm
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Re: Bluetooth

2009-04-09 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Apr 9, 2009, at 10:44 AM, norm46 wrote:


 I want to purchase a wireless Apple keyboard but they use Bluetooth.
 My G4 PPC does not have this. Can bluetooth be added and at what cost?

Any USB bluetooth dongle can be used (it's a very standard standard),  
and they cost ~$10-$20.

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eMac Bluetooth blues

2009-03-17 Thread Bill Arnold
Recently added bluetooth to my 800mhz eMac via a Belkin usb plugin and
wireless apple keyboard and mighty mouse.
If I allow the machine to sleep, i lose my bluetooth connections. The only
way things seem to work is if I shut down and go through a complete restart.
Then all is well.

When bluetooth was first installed the preference dialogue did not provide
for either the keyboard or mouse to waken the unit from sleep. The option
was grayed out.

Is there a way to get back the sleep option which was my standard way of
operating with the previous wired board and mouse?

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Re: eMac Bluetooth blues

2009-03-17 Thread Cyrus Griffin

I think with older machines, the external bluetooth adapters work with  
limited success. I also had this problem with a G4 tower, and it also  
caused kernel panics. I think I had an iogear one, though. There was  
another bluetooth module I found that worked a lot better; I don't  
remember what it is offhand, since my current iMac has built-in  
bluetooth. All I remember was that it was oblong and red; like a  
capsule. maybe someone else knows what I'm talking about. I think it  
just depends on the bluetooth module itself. If the eMac you have has  
the plugin for an internal Apple one, I would try to get one on eBay,  
if it does support that it should work a lot better.


-Cyrus



On Mar 17, 2009, at 6:50 AM, Bill Arnold wrote:

 Recently added bluetooth to my 800mhz eMac via a Belkin usb plugin  
 and wireless apple keyboard and mighty mouse.

 If I allow the machine to sleep, i lose my bluetooth connections.  
 The only way things seem to work is if I shut down and go through a  
 complete restart. Then all is well.

 When bluetooth was first installed the preference dialogue did not  
 provide for either the keyboard or mouse to waken the unit from  
 sleep. The option was grayed out.

 Is there a way to get back the sleep option which was my standard  
 way of operating with the previous wired board and mouse?



 


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Re: Internal Bluetooth Board

2008-11-06 Thread Dana Collins

On 11/6/08 10:13 AM, Simon Royal of [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent

 
 Dana
 
 I have a USB bluetooth in my other Mac and I have not noticed any speed
 difference between that and the internal that was in the iMac.
 
 My only reason for questioning was because I have the internal card sitting
 here and it would save a USB port.
 
 Simon


Hi Simon,
Agreed. And, admittedly, making a stand-alone unit self-sufficient re; any
wireless opportunity is outright cool. Were the cards a little more
common-place, or frankly, STILL offered by the manufacturer (*ahem*), then
perhaps the prices one sees for the cards (IF you see one available) would
not be so sinfully exorbitant. Just my 2¢ worth.
Mac on, colleague!
-Dana



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