Re: Firefox 3.5.2

2009-08-12 Thread Mac User #330250

On Wednesday, 12th of August 2009, Richard Gerome wrote:
   I experienced slowness when I had comcast with all the free virus
 protection that it was running and when I deleted it there was a great
 improvement!!! Maybe this could be your problem???  Besides Apples do not
 need virus protection!!!   CoolKat

Summary of the Month of Apple Bugs, dated back to 2nd February 2007:
http://www.h-online.com/security/features/84692

It's always good to look more closely. Apple sure has the advantage of not 
being the prime target. I know, this report is old when speaking in computer 
terms, but there are always vulnerabilities and security holes. Virus 
Protection is not essential, but maybe a good thing.

Cheers,
Andreas  aka  Mac User #330250

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Re: Firefox 3.5.2

2009-08-12 Thread Dan

At 1:47 PM +0200 8/12/2009, Mac User #330250 wrote:
Summary of the Month of Apple Bugs, dated back to 2nd February 2007:
http://www.h-online.com/security/features/84692

It's always good to look more closely. Apple sure has the advantage of not
being the prime target. I know, this report is old when speaking in computer
terms, but there are always vulnerabilities and security holes. Virus
Protection is not essential, but maybe a good thing.

This is a warm-fuzzy fix that means little to the end-user.  The 
problem is that there are no real exploits in the wild, that take 
advantage of those security holes, that can be caught by those 
so-called anti-virus softwares.

It's kindof like washing your hands 10,000x per day just because 
someone told you there's ebola on the other side of the planet.  The 
water and anti-biotic companies greatly appreciate your contributions 
to their profits, and you've done little to improve your health.

- Dan.
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Re: Firefox 3.5.2

2009-08-12 Thread Mac User #330250

On Wednesday, 12th of August 2009, Dan wrote:
 At 1:47 PM +0200 8/12/2009, Mac User #330250 wrote:
 Summary of the Month of Apple Bugs, dated back to 2nd February 2007:
 http://www.h-online.com/security/features/84692
 
 It's always good to look more closely. Apple sure has the advantage of not
 being the prime target. I know, this report is old when speaking in
  computer terms, but there are always vulnerabilities and security holes.
  Virus Protection is not essential, but maybe a good thing.

 This is a warm-fuzzy fix that means little to the end-user.  The
 problem is that there are no real exploits in the wild, that take
 advantage of those security holes, that can be caught by those
 so-called anti-virus softwares.

 It's kindof like washing your hands 10,000x per day just because
 someone told you there's ebola on the other side of the planet.  The
 water and anti-biotic companies greatly appreciate your contributions
 to their profits, and you've done little to improve your health.

 - Dan.

Yes, I didn't want to create panic. Mac OS X is definitely not a high risk 
system, comparing to the numbers to Windows viruses in the wild there are no 
real threats to a Mac.

The Washington Post once reported of a Linux and Mac OS X botnet.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/21/AR2006032100279.html
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2006/03/when_macs_attack.html

But on the other hand, this might be FOD (Fear, uncertainty and doubt):
http://macdistractions.newsvine.com/_news/2006/03/22/142110-more-os-x-fud-or-a-hint-of-more-security-troubles-for-apple

Well,
Mac OS X is safe, I don't use a virus scanner either. A virus scanner itself 
might be the security risk, if it is buggy.

I don't even use a virus scanner in Windows; the build-in firewall is 
sufficient for me. If you are careful when you are connected to the internet, 
then there is no need at all. Just keep your programs updated. 
Zero-day-exploits are a pain in the a**.

I wanted to point out that there are no real safe systems. There are always 
leaks and the manufacturers of the software have to make sure that detected 
leaks get fixed as fast and as safe as possible. Apple realy has the 
advantage of using a real Unix system as its base, and we all know that in 
theory Unix is one of the safest concepts of how an operating system should 
be.

And looking at possible hazzards is always a good thing. Don't be so insolent 
to think it could never happen to you. I hope that didn't offend anyone.

Cheers,
Andreas  aka  Mac User #330250

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Firefox 3.5.2

2009-08-11 Thread Lawrence David Eden

FF 2.5.2 is very slow on all the Macs in my house.  One of the Macs 
is an Intel, the others are G4 or G5.


For the time being, I have reverted to FF 3.0+ and it works fine.

I tried FF on a friend's PC and it ran perfectly.  Furthermore, I 
asked a friend of mine on an Intel Mac to try FF, and he reported no 
slowness.

I am using Comcast as my ISP and I have a NetGear router connected to 
the cable modem.  Any ideas about the cause of the slownessand 
any ideas about how to solve the problem?

Thanks

Larry Eden

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Re: Firefox 3.5.2

2009-08-11 Thread Dan

At 6:52 PM -0400 8/11/2009, Lawrence David Eden wrote:
FF 2.5.2 is very slow on all the Macs in my house.  One of the Macs
is an Intel, the others are G4 or G5.
For the time being, I have reverted to FF 3.0+ and it works fine.

Clear the caches.

Make sure you don't have some add-on or plug-in that's running away.

Perhaps try an optimized build.

I am using Comcast as my ISP and I have a NetGear router connected to
the cable modem.  Any ideas about the cause of the slownessand
any ideas about how to solve the problem?

Look into DNS delays and other service errors.  Comcast's name 
servers are notoriously overloaded and they're routing has been 
having a lot of problems.

- Dan.
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Re: Firefox 3.5.2

2009-08-11 Thread Wayne Garrett

Go to Safari 4 it is blazing fast.

On 8/11/09, Lawrence David Eden lde...@comcast.net wrote:

 FF 2.5.2 is very slow on all the Macs in my house.  One of the Macs
 is an Intel, the others are G4 or G5.


 For the time being, I have reverted to FF 3.0+ and it works fine.

 I tried FF on a friend's PC and it ran perfectly.  Furthermore, I
 asked a friend of mine on an Intel Mac to try FF, and he reported no
 slowness.

 I am using Comcast as my ISP and I have a NetGear router connected to
 the cable modem.  Any ideas about the cause of the slownessand
 any ideas about how to solve the problem?

 Thanks

 Larry Eden

 


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Re: Firefox 3.5.2

2009-08-11 Thread Richard Gerome


Hey Larry,

  I experienced slowness when I had comcast with all the free virus 
protection that it was running and when I deleted it there was a great 
improvement!!! Maybe this could be your problem???  Besides Apples do not need 
virus protection!!!   CoolKat 

-Original Message-
From: Lawrence David Eden lde...@comcast.net
Sent: Aug 11, 2009 6:52 PM
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Firefox 3.5.2


FF 2.5.2 is very slow on all the Macs in my house.  One of the Macs 
is an Intel, the others are G4 or G5.


For the time being, I have reverted to FF 3.0+ and it works fine.

I tried FF on a friend's PC and it ran perfectly.  Furthermore, I 
asked a friend of mine on an Intel Mac to try FF, and he reported no 
slowness.

I am using Comcast as my ISP and I have a NetGear router connected to 
the cable modem.  Any ideas about the cause of the slownessand 
any ideas about how to solve the problem?

Thanks

Larry Eden




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