Re: Folder access
htanks.. Haven;t done this next step yet but will try it. NEW WRINKLE: would this have anything to do with iTunes COMPLETELY losing track of all my music files? Part of this transfer to a new second-internal=drive included my long- time-working iTunes music collection going to the new drive. It -had- been working off the external. Having moved the whole mess onto the new 2T internal, I repointed iTunes to the new location. Yesterday it was working (or so I thought... I still had the old external online) but today, after ejecting all teh externals, every song that it's asked to play pops up a LOST IT dialogue and the exclamation pops up. On Dec 21, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Dec 20, 2012, at 2:02 PM, JohnV vengbj...@verizon.net wrote: Following you as best I can here's what I got: Last login: Thu Dec 20 13:58:45 on ttyp1 Welcome to Darwin! new-host:~ johnvengrouskie$ cd /Volumes/G5 HD2 Sg2t -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline' new-host:~ johnvengrouskie$ cd /Volumes/G5\ HD2\ SG2T -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline' Oops, forgot to tell you that the 's were illustrative! Sorry! new-host:~ johnvengrouskie$ cd /Volumes/G5\ HD2\ SG2T new-host:/Volumes/G5 HD2 SG2T johnvengrouskie$ ls -al total 688 drwxrwxrwx 23 johnveng johnveng 884 Dec 18 15:49 . drwxrwxrwt 10 root admin340 Dec 18 15:41 .. -rw-rw-rw-1 johnveng johnveng 21508 Dec 20 13:50 .DS_Store drw-rw-rw-7 root johnveng 238 Dec 18 15:41 .Spotlight- V100 drwxrwxrwt3 johnveng johnveng 102 Nov 29 2011 .TemporaryItems drwxrwxrwt3 root admin102 Dec 18 15:41 .Trashes -rw-rw-rw-1 johnveng johnveng 0 Nov 24 2011 .com.apple.timemachine.supported -rw-rw-rw-1 johnveng johnveng 0 Dec 18 15:48 .com.bombich.ccc.start_time drwxrwxrwx3 johnveng johnveng 102 Nov 24 2011 AA DRESCUE WORK drwxrwxrwx4 johnveng johnveng 136 Dec 5 2011 AA TEMP BACKUP OF g5 drwxrw-rw-5 johnveng johnveng 170 Sep 9 16:51 Desktop Ok, I think I know what's going on here, this is your old user account? I suspect the issue is that your userid (not username, but the numeric userID that OS X actually uses to know who you are) is different on the old sytem, and so the Finder thinks you shouldn't be able to get in there, even though you can. You see the same thing if you create another user on your mac, and then go into the Users folder and get into the other user's directory, you see the same - signs This cab be fixed, probably, by takeing ownership via a command in Terminal: (and this time it's the exact command, you can copy and paste this line) sudo chown -R johnveng:johnveng /Volumes/G5\ HD2\ SG2T This CHanges OWNership, recursively, of all the files in that directory to your username and default group (as of 10.3 or 10.4 your default group is a group with the same name as your user directory) This should get rid of the - signs -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Folder access
On Dec 22, 2012, at 2:08 PM, JohnV wrote: htanks.. Haven;t done this next step yet but will try it. NEW WRINKLE: would this have anything to do with iTunes COMPLETELY losing track of all my music files? Part of this transfer to a new second-internal=drive included my long-time-working iTunes music collection going to the new drive. It -had- been working off the external. Having moved the whole mess onto the new 2T internal, I repointed iTunes to the new location. Yesterday it was working (or so I thought... I still had the old external online) but today, after ejecting all teh externals, every song that it's asked to play pops up a LOST IT dialogue and the exclamation pops up. Re-point iTunes to the new location. If the external and new internal volumes have the same names, programs can get confused. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Folder access
On Dec 20, 2012, at 2:02 PM, JohnV vengbj...@verizon.net wrote: Following you as best I can here's what I got: Last login: Thu Dec 20 13:58:45 on ttyp1 Welcome to Darwin! new-host:~ johnvengrouskie$ cd /Volumes/G5 HD2 Sg2t -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline' new-host:~ johnvengrouskie$ cd /Volumes/G5\ HD2\ SG2T -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline' Oops, forgot to tell you that the 's were illustrative! Sorry! new-host:~ johnvengrouskie$ cd /Volumes/G5\ HD2\ SG2T new-host:/Volumes/G5 HD2 SG2T johnvengrouskie$ ls -al total 688 drwxrwxrwx 23 johnveng johnveng 884 Dec 18 15:49 . drwxrwxrwt 10 root admin340 Dec 18 15:41 .. -rw-rw-rw-1 johnveng johnveng 21508 Dec 20 13:50 .DS_Store drw-rw-rw-7 root johnveng 238 Dec 18 15:41 .Spotlight-V100 drwxrwxrwt3 johnveng johnveng 102 Nov 29 2011 .TemporaryItems drwxrwxrwt3 root admin102 Dec 18 15:41 .Trashes -rw-rw-rw-1 johnveng johnveng 0 Nov 24 2011 .com.apple.timemachine.supported -rw-rw-rw-1 johnveng johnveng 0 Dec 18 15:48 .com.bombich.ccc.start_time drwxrwxrwx3 johnveng johnveng 102 Nov 24 2011 AA DRESCUE WORK drwxrwxrwx4 johnveng johnveng 136 Dec 5 2011 AA TEMP BACKUP OF g5 drwxrw-rw-5 johnveng johnveng 170 Sep 9 16:51 Desktop Ok, I think I know what's going on here, this is your old user account? I suspect the issue is that your userid (not username, but the numeric userID that OS X actually uses to know who you are) is different on the old sytem, and so the Finder thinks you shouldn't be able to get in there, even though you can. You see the same thing if you create another user on your mac, and then go into the Users folder and get into the other user's directory, you see the same - signs This cab be fixed, probably, by takeing ownership via a command in Terminal: (and this time it's the exact command, you can copy and paste this line) sudo chown -R johnveng:johnveng /Volumes/G5\ HD2\ SG2T This CHanges OWNership, recursively, of all the files in that directory to your username and default group (as of 10.3 or 10.4 your default group is a group with the same name as your user directory) This should get rid of the - signs -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Folder access
replaced a second internal 300G HD in a G5 (dual 1.8 10.4.11) with a Seagate 7200 2T drive as part of reorganising a mess of scattered externals. One being a 3Tb seagate external, partitioned as 3 1T drives, that is geting odd with partition A not showing up on all finder windows. USed Carbon Copy to simply copy partition A to the new internal 2T drive. This took a LONG time (875G) but seemed to go fine. What is now on the internal 2T is all of the A partition but a bunch of the folders have a red - symbol on them. what is that? JV -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Folder access
On Dec 20, 2012, at 10:38 AM, JohnV vengbj...@verizon.net wrote: replaced a second internal 300G HD in a G5 (dual 1.8 10.4.11) with a Seagate 7200 2T drive as part of reorganising a mess of scattered externals. One being a 3Tb seagate external, partitioned as 3 1T drives, that is geting odd with partition A not showing up on all finder windows. USed Carbon Copy to simply copy partition A to the new internal 2T drive. This took a LONG time (875G) but seemed to go fine. What is now on the internal 2T is all of the A partition but a bunch of the folders have a red - symbol on them. what is that? That means you don't have permission to access those files. More than likely the 'oddness' the external drive was exhibiting contributed to this issue. If this is just data it should be available to everyone. DO a Get Info in the finder for the volumem, and in the Sharing and permissions section you can shange the permissions. You should see a gear menu like on mine and when you change the permissions, select 'Apply to enclosed items'. Maybe, I don't have a 10.4 system at hand to test, but this is where you should go first. There's also a Terminal way of doing this that'll work guaranteed: Open terminal, and type: cd /Volumes And hit return. If you type ls you should see a list of directories that have the names of your disks. do: sudo chmod -R a+rw ./Problem\ Volume\ Name Substituting the problematic volume name. the leading dot slash ./ is important, and you must precede any spaces in the name with a backslash \ What this command does is make all the files in that directory readable and writeable to all users; the -R means do this recursively for all enclosed files and directories. This should make the - signs go away in Finder. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Folder access
On Dec 20, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: DO a Get Info in the finder for the volumem, and in the Sharing and permissions section you can shange the permissions. You should see a gear menu like on mine and when you change the permissions, select 'Apply to enclosed items'. Forgot to post the screenshot: http://dbdev2.pharmacy.arizona.edu/miscjunk/changing_volume_permissions.png -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Folder access
On Dec 20, 2012, at 1:21 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Dec 20, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: DO a Get Info in the finder for the volumem, and in the Sharing and permissions section you can shange the permissions. You should see a gear menu like on mine and when you change the permissions, select 'Apply to enclosed items'. Forgot to post the screenshot: http://dbdev2.pharmacy.arizona.edu/miscjunk/changing_volume_permissions.png Would running applejack fix this problem? There also may be a fix located in the CCC website ... seem to remember reading something about it ... could be wrong. 2ยข -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Folder access
If any of this sounds contentious, by no means should it be taken so, just being terse and clear to help focus. On Dec 20, 2012, at 1:16 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: What is now on the internal 2T is all of the A partition but a bunch of the folders have a red - symbol on them. what is that? That means you don't have permission to access those files. ... but I seem ot have no trouble accessing any of them I've tried... More than likely the 'oddness' the external drive was exhibiting contributed to this issue. If this is just data it should be available to everyone. DO a Get Info in the finder for the volumem, and in the Sharing and permissions section you can shange the permissions. You should see a gear menu like on mine and when you change the permissions, select 'Apply to enclosed items'. Tried this before and tried it just now on your mention. the INFO shows that I seem to have read wrote access. I went ahead and told it to APPLY, it confirmed and I said OK nothing changed for better or worse... still the red sign, still seem to have access. It's odd. I'm still nervous about screwing things up by making a mistake in TERMINAL but I'l give that a try next thanks, John Vengrouskie Maybe, I don't have a 10.4 system at hand to test, but this is where you should go first. There's also a Terminal way of doing this that'll work guaranteed: Open terminal, and type: cd /Volumes And hit return. If you type ls you should see a list of directories that have the names of your disks. do: sudo chmod -R a+rw ./Problem\ Volume\ Name Substituting the problematic volume name. the leading dot slash ./ is important, and you must precede any spaces in the name with a backslash \ What this command does is make all the files in that directory readable and writeable to all users; the -R means do this recursively for all enclosed files and directories. This should make the - signs go away in Finder. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Folder access
Just did teh Terminal thing, using your guide... sweatingly checking my typing 3 times at every step. System warned me of where I was fearing to tread, put in requested password and absolutely NOTHING seemed to happen. re-opened finder window on the second internal drive and ... voila! no symbols. Ignorance is not bliss. Thanks again for your clear careful help here. John V -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Folder access
CORRECTION. Apologies I inadvertently opened the internal boot drive window, not the second internal drive, and it of course showed no red signs adn I was all-too-ready to see that. Second internal drive still shows same red-symbol nonsense. 7 of the ten folders show red, 3 don't. JV -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Folder access
On Dec 20, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Bill Connelly billycarmac...@verizon.net wrote: On Dec 20, 2012, at 1:21 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Dec 20, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: DO a Get Info in the finder for the volumem, and in the Sharing and permissions section you can shange the permissions. You should see a gear menu like on mine and when you change the permissions, select 'Apply to enclosed items'. Forgot to post the screenshot: http://dbdev2.pharmacy.arizona.edu/miscjunk/changing_volume_permissions.png Would running applejack fix this problem? No. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Folder access
On Dec 20, 2012, at 12:11 PM, JohnV wrote: CORRECTION. Apologies I inadvertently opened the internal boot drive window, not the second internal drive, and it of course showed no red signs adn I was all-too-ready to see that. Second internal drive still shows same red-symbol nonsense. 7 of the ten folders show red, 3 don't. And you can access those files just fine? in Terminal do the following: cd /Volumes/name of problem volume ls -al Look for directories with an @ or a + on the end of the permissions section (the part of the line that starts with a 'd', like: drwxr-xr-x3 johnson staff 102 Jan 9 2011 Backup Extensions, it's 'drwxr-xr-x') ...do they correspond to the folders with - signs? -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Folder access
Here's what shows up in the finder window for the volume in question all are folders EXCEPT the last item bbc website _CCC Archives AA DRESCUE WORK AA TEMP BACKUP OF g5 - aaa WEB CURRENT EXPORT SITE - Desktop - Desktop Folder - digital pix 2 GC - Gen Docs 2007 - ITUNES 2007 - MUSIC AND MEDIA PROJECTS www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17162066.webloc Following you as best I can here's what I got: Last login: Thu Dec 20 13:58:45 on ttyp1 Welcome to Darwin! new-host:~ johnvengrouskie$ cd /Volumes/G5 HD2 Sg2t -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline' new-host:~ johnvengrouskie$ cd /Volumes/G5\ HD2\ SG2T -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline' new-host:~ johnvengrouskie$ cd /Volumes/G5\ HD2\ SG2T new-host:/Volumes/G5 HD2 SG2T johnvengrouskie$ ls -al total 688 drwxrwxrwx 23 johnveng johnveng 884 Dec 18 15:49 . drwxrwxrwt 10 root admin340 Dec 18 15:41 .. -rw-rw-rw-1 johnveng johnveng 21508 Dec 20 13:50 .DS_Store drw-rw-rw-7 root johnveng 238 Dec 18 15:41 .Spotlight-V100 drwxrwxrwt3 johnveng johnveng 102 Nov 29 2011 .TemporaryItems drwxrwxrwt3 root admin102 Dec 18 15:41 .Trashes -rw-rw-rw-1 johnveng johnveng 0 Nov 24 2011 .com.apple.timemachine.supported -rw-rw-rw-1 johnveng johnveng 0 Dec 18 15:48 .com.bombich.ccc.start_time drwxrwxrwx3 johnveng johnveng 102 Nov 24 2011 AA DRESCUE WORK drwxrwxrwx4 johnveng johnveng 136 Dec 5 2011 AA TEMP BACKUP OF g5 drwxrw-rw-5 johnveng johnveng 170 Sep 9 16:51 Desktop -rw-rw-rw-1 johnveng johnveng 158720 Nov 23 2011 Desktop DB -rw-rw-rw-1 johnveng johnveng 155714 Nov 6 20:42 Desktop DF drwxrwxrwx2 johnveng johnveng 68 Jan 8 2012 Desktop Folder drwxrwxrwx 10 johnveng johnveng 340 Dec 19 17:40 Gen Docs 2007 drwxrwxrwx 11 johnveng johnveng 374 May 29 2012 ITUNES 2007 drwxrwxrwx 10 johnveng johnveng 340 Dec 6 2011 MUSIC AND MEDIA PROJECTS drwxrwxrwx2 johnveng johnveng 68 Jan 8 2012 Temporary Items drwxrwxrwx3 johnveng johnveng 102 Nov 18 2011 TheVolumeSettingsFolder drwxrwxrwx3 johnveng johnveng 102 Dec 18 15:48 _CCC Archives drwxrwxrwx 30 johnveng johnveng1020 Feb 15 2011 aaa WEB CURRENT EXPORT SITE drwxrwxrwx 23 johnveng johnveng 782 Jan 4 2012 digital pix 2 GC -rw-rw-rw-1 johnveng johnveng 270 Feb 26 2012 www.bbc.co.uk:news:world-europe-17162066.webloc new-host:/Volumes/G5 HD2 SG2T johnvengrouskie$ On Dec 20, 2012, at 2:58 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Dec 20, 2012, at 12:11 PM, JohnV wrote: CORRECTION. Apologies I inadvertently opened the internal boot drive window, not the second internal drive, and it of course showed no red signs adn I was all-too-ready to see that. Second internal drive still shows same red-symbol nonsense. 7 of the ten folders show red, 3 don't. And you can access those files just fine? in Terminal do the following: cd /Volumes/name of problem volume ls -al Look for directories with an @ or a + on the end of the permissions section (the part of the line that starts with a 'd', like: drwxr-xr-x3 johnson staff 102 Jan 9 2011 Backup Extensions, it's 'drwxr-xr-x') ...do they correspond to the folders with - signs? -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
