Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-14 Thread Dave
I am trying to use a 1 GB PC3200 DDR 400 module in my MDD, installed
by itself, but it keeps telling me I need to restart the machine. I
see several of you have installed 1 GB modules -- I would appreciate
any suggestions!

Dave Bjur
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On Jun 2, 12:48 pm, Jason Brown jason_brown1...@att.net wrote:
 It will recognize 2 of the 1 gig modules for 2 gig...

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Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-14 Thread JOHN CARMONNE


On Jun 14, 2010, at 9:46 AM, Dave wrote:


I am trying to use a 1 GB PC3200 DDR 400 module in my MDD, installed
by itself, but it keeps telling me I need to restart the machine. I
see several of you have installed 1 GB modules -- I would appreciate
any suggestions!
Reset CUDA switch make sure the boot drive is in the front bay on the  
end of the cable. Clean the RAM and slots with contact cleaner non  
residue type. That's how I got my MDD working the day I got it from  
a gut that was going to waste can it.
It's now my goto burner with 2 opticals and 4 HDDs with 2 1 GB  
sticks. and a Seritek card. USB 2.0. and eSATA


JOHN CARMONNE
Yorba Linda USA
From TiBook 800




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Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-14 Thread Dave Bjur
Thanks, John.

Pardon my ignorance:

1. What and where is the CUDA switch? I see a PMU reset switch -- is that it?

2. Is the front bay the one under the optical drive?

3. Also, does it matter which RAM slot?

Thanks, Again,

Dave Bjur
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(208) 305-1514

On Jun 14, 2010, at 10:00 AM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote:

 
 On Jun 14, 2010, at 9:46 AM, Dave wrote:
 
 I am trying to use a 1 GB PC3200 DDR 400 module in my MDD, installed
 by itself, but it keeps telling me I need to restart the machine. I
 see several of you have installed 1 GB modules -- I would appreciate
 any suggestions!
 Reset CUDA switch make sure the boot drive is in the front bay on the end of 
 the cable. Clean the RAM and slots with contact cleaner non residue type. 
 That's how I got my MDD working the day I got it from a gut that was going to 
 waste can it.
 It's now my goto burner with 2 opticals and 4 HDDs with 2 1 GB sticks. and a 
 Seritek card. USB 2.0. and eSATA
 
 JOHN CARMONNE
 Yorba Linda USA
 From TiBook 800
 
 
 
 
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Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-14 Thread JOHN CARMONNE


On Jun 14, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Dave Bjur wrote:


Thanks, John.

Pardon my ignorance:

1. What and where is the CUDA switch? I see a PMU reset switch --  
is that it?


2. Is the front bay the one under the optical drive?

3. Also, does it matter which RAM slot?

Thanks, Again,

Dave Bjur
d...@bjurconsulting.com
(208) 305-1514

On Jun 14, 2010, at 10:00 AM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote:



On Jun 14, 2010, at 9:46 AM, Dave wrote:


I am trying to use a 1 GB PC3200 DDR 400 module in my MDD, installed
by itself, but it keeps telling me I need to restart the machine. I
see several of you have installed 1 GB modules -- I would appreciate
any suggestions!
Reset CUDA switch make sure the boot drive is in the front bay on  
the end of the cable. Clean the RAM and slots with contact cleaner  
non residue type. That's how I got my MDD working the day I got  
it from a gut that was going to waste can it.
It's now my goto burner with 2 opticals and 4 HDDs with 2 1 GB  
sticks. and a Seritek card. USB 2.0. and eSATA


JOHN CARMONNE
Yorba Linda USA
From TiBook 800

Look close to the battery or Google if you don't see it. It's a tiny  
grey button it a bright square box. The best way is to remove every  
thing you can including the battey and power cord before  reconnection.


JOHN CARMONNE
Yorba Linda USA
carmo...@aol,com

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Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-14 Thread JOHN CARMONNE


On Jun 14, 2010, at 10:26 AM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote:



On Jun 14, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Dave Bjur wrote:


Thanks, John.

Pardon my ignorance:

1. What and where is the CUDA switch? I see a PMU reset switch --  
is that it?


Look close to the battery or Google if you don't see it. It's a tiny  
grey button it a bright square box. The best way is to remove every  
thing you can including the battey and power cord before  reconnection.

2. Is the front bay the one under the optical drive?



Maybe I'm not sure which machine you have can you restate? I'm where  
I can't go back in the thread

3. Also, does it matter which RAM slot?



Closest to the processor

Thanks, Again,

Dave Bjur
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(208) 305-1514
E


Yorba Linda USA
From TiBook 800




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Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-14 Thread JOHN CARMONNE


On Jun 14, 2010, at 10:36 AM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote:



On Jun 14, 2010, at 10:26 AM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote:



On Jun 14, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Dave Bjur wrote:


Thanks, John.

Pardon my ignorance:

1. What and where is the CUDA switch? I see a PMU reset switch --  
is that it?


Look close to the battery or Google if you don't see it. It's a  
tiny grey button it a bright square box. The best way is to remove  
every thing you can including the battey and power cord before   
reconnection.

2. Is the front bay the one under the optical drive?

The front bay is the foward one on the right when looking at the open  
machine.  The cable has two connectors the one you want is on the end  
on the 100 BUS. I'm speaking of a MDD Dual 1.0 or 1.25.


JOHN CARMONNE
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Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-14 Thread Dave Bjur
Thanks, John,

That button on my unit is labeled PMU Reset, and that did the trick! I now 
have a total of 2 GB: 1x1GB, 1x512MB (these recycled from the dead iMac), 
2x256MB (these came with the MDD), all working wonderfully.

I'm truly thankful. 

-- Dave

On Jun 14, 2010, at 10:40 AM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote:

 Look close to the battery or Google if you don't see it. It's a tiny grey 
 button it a bright square box.

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Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-02 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Jun 2, 2010, at 8:47 AM, john CARMONNE wrote:

 
 Hi All
 I'm wondering if I install in my G4 MDD Dual 1.25, two 1 GB PC3200 DDR 184 
 pin sticks and two 512 will the machine report 3 GB?

Yes it will.

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Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-02 Thread JoeTaxpayer
Sorry - I have these machines and never saw anyone say they had it
recognize more than the 2GB. Any discussions or spec referencing the
RAM says that 512MB per slot is max. If anyone has an about this Mac
image showing more than 2GB/ 512 per slot, I'd love to see it.
With all the G4 MDDs out there, if this were possible, I'd think it
would be out there. (And the RAM sellers would be loading it for sale,
not repeating 2GB max)

On Jun 2, 11:51 am, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
wrote:
 On Jun 2, 2010, at 8:47 AM, john CARMONNE wrote:



  Hi All
  I'm wondering if I install in my G4 MDD Dual 1.25, two 1 GB PC3200 DDR 184 
  pin sticks and two 512 will the machine report 3 GB?

 Yes it will.

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 University of Arizona
 College of Pharmacy
 Information Technology Group

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Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-02 Thread Jason Brown
I think the ram limit is artificial by firmware. I am not sure on this though. 
My MDD will recognize 2 1 gig modules for 2 gig, but it ignores anything after 
that like it doesnt exist.

On Jun 2, 2010, at 11:18 AM, JoeTaxpayer wrote:

 Sorry - I have these machines and never saw anyone say they had it
 recognize more than the 2GB. Any discussions or spec referencing the
 RAM says that 512MB per slot is max. If anyone has an about this Mac
 image showing more than 2GB/ 512 per slot, I'd love to see it.
 With all the G4 MDDs out there, if this were possible, I'd think it
 would be out there. (And the RAM sellers would be loading it for sale,
 not repeating 2GB max)
 
 On Jun 2, 11:51 am, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
 wrote:
 On Jun 2, 2010, at 8:47 AM, john CARMONNE wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi All
 I'm wondering if I install in my G4 MDD Dual 1.25, two 1 GB PC3200 DDR 184 
 pin sticks and two 512 will the machine report 3 GB?
 
 Yes it will.
 
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 University of Arizona
 College of Pharmacy
 Information Technology Group
 
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Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-02 Thread Ricardo Sevilla

WEre you able to do this? What was the outcome?
On Jun 2, 2010, at 8:51 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:



On Jun 2, 2010, at 8:47 AM, john CARMONNE wrote:



Hi All
I'm wondering if I install in my G4 MDD Dual 1.25, two 1 GB PC3200  
DDR 184 pin sticks and two 512 will the machine report 3 GB?


Yes it will.

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Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-02 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Jun 2, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Ricardo Sevilla wrote:

 WEre you able to do this? What was the outcome?
 On Jun 2, 2010, at 8:51 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
 
 
 On Jun 2, 2010, at 8:47 AM, john CARMONNE wrote:
 
 
 Hi All
 I'm wondering if I install in my G4 MDD Dual 1.25, two 1 GB PC3200 DDR 184 
 pin sticks and two 512 will the machine report 3 GB?
 
 Yes it will.
 

Well now I'm doubting my own memory. I could have SWORN I'd done this on a MDD 
here. Sadly that system is long gone and I can't check anymore.

This was the last model MDD, the one Apple put out after the G5 debut, the one 
that let people boot  into OS 9 again.

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Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-02 Thread Richard Smallwood

On 02 Jun 2010, at 2:07 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:


On Jun 2, 2010, at 8:47 AM, john CARMONNE wrote:

I'm wondering if I install in my G4 MDD Dual 1.25, two 1 GB  
PC3200 DDR 184 pin sticks and two 512 will the machine report 3 GB?


Yes it will.




Well now I'm doubting my own memory. I could have SWORN I'd done  
this on a MDD here. Sadly that system is long gone and I can't  
check anymore.


This was the last model MDD, the one Apple put out after the G5  
debut, the one that let people boot  into OS 9 again.


I have one of these MDD models (G4 MDD single 1.25 Ghz) and it will  
only go up to 2 GB RAM.

Richard

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Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-02 Thread JoeTaxpayer
Even this is different and I suppose an improvement from what i
understand. My MDDs all show 512MB in each dimm slot. Haven't tried
1GB, never heard it works.

On Jun 2, 12:33 pm, Jason Brown jason_brown1...@att.net wrote:
 I think the ram limit is artificial by firmware. I am not sure on this 
 though. My MDD will recognize 2 1 gig modules for 2 gig, but it ignores 
 anything after that like it doesnt exist.

 On Jun 2, 2010, at 11:18 AM, JoeTaxpayer wrote:

  Sorry - I have these machines and never saw anyone say they had it
  recognize more than the 2GB. Any discussions or spec referencing the
  RAM says that 512MB per slot is max. If anyone has an about this Mac
  image showing more than 2GB/ 512 per slot, I'd love to see it.
  With all the G4 MDDs out there, if this were possible, I'd think it
  would be out there. (And the RAM sellers would be loading it for sale,
  not repeating 2GB max)

  On Jun 2, 11:51 am, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
  wrote:
  On Jun 2, 2010, at 8:47 AM, john CARMONNE wrote:

  Hi All
  I'm wondering if I install in my G4 MDD Dual 1.25, two 1 GB PC3200 DDR 
  184 pin sticks and two 512 will the machine report 3 GB?

  Yes it will.

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  University of Arizona
  College of Pharmacy
  Information Technology Group

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Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-02 Thread John Carmonne

On Jun 2, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Ricardo Sevilla wrote:

 WEre you able to do this? What was the outcome?
 On Jun 2, 2010, at 8:51 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
 
 
 On Jun 2, 2010, at 8:47 AM, john CARMONNE wrote:
 
 
 Hi All
 I'm wondering if I install in my G4 MDD Dual 1.25, two 1 GB PC3200 DDR 184 
 pin sticks and two 512 will the machine report 3 GB?
 
 Yes it will.
 

The RAM is on the way as soon as I get it I'll take a shot at it, otherwise 
it'll fit my PM G5.


John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
Sent from my MBP






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Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-02 Thread Jason Brown
It will recognize 2 of the 1 gig modules for 2 gig, once it hits its max, it 
stops. There has to be a hack we can do somehow some way to make it recognize 
the ram, its apparently a soft limit.

On Jun 2, 2010, at 2:41 PM, John Carmonne wrote:

 
 On Jun 2, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Ricardo Sevilla wrote:
 
 WEre you able to do this? What was the outcome?
 On Jun 2, 2010, at 8:51 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
 
 
 On Jun 2, 2010, at 8:47 AM, john CARMONNE wrote:
 
 
 Hi All
 I'm wondering if I install in my G4 MDD Dual 1.25, two 1 GB PC3200 DDR 184 
 pin sticks and two 512 will the machine report 3 GB?
 
 Yes it will.
 
 
 The RAM is on the way as soon as I get it I'll take a shot at it, otherwise 
 it'll fit my PM G5.
 
 
 John Carmonne
 Yorba Linda USA
 Sent from my MBP
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-02 Thread Chance Reecher
I have 2 1GB sticks running fine in my MDD 1.42. I haven't tried
adding anything beyond that, particularly because two of my RAM slots
cause an OF error. (Which is why I have the 2 1GB sticks in the first
place and not 4 512MB sticks.)

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 3:40 PM, JoeTaxpayer joetaxpaye...@gmail.com wrote:
 Even this is different and I suppose an improvement from what i
 understand. My MDDs all show 512MB in each dimm slot. Haven't tried
 1GB, never heard it works.

 On Jun 2, 12:33 pm, Jason Brown jason_brown1...@att.net wrote:
 I think the ram limit is artificial by firmware. I am not sure on this 
 though. My MDD will recognize 2 1 gig modules for 2 gig, but it ignores 
 anything after that like it doesnt exist.

 On Jun 2, 2010, at 11:18 AM, JoeTaxpayer wrote:

  Sorry - I have these machines and never saw anyone say they had it
  recognize more than the 2GB. Any discussions or spec referencing the
  RAM says that 512MB per slot is max. If anyone has an about this Mac
  image showing more than 2GB/ 512 per slot, I'd love to see it.
  With all the G4 MDDs out there, if this were possible, I'd think it
  would be out there. (And the RAM sellers would be loading it for sale,
  not repeating 2GB max)

  On Jun 2, 11:51 am, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
  wrote:
  On Jun 2, 2010, at 8:47 AM, john CARMONNE wrote:

  Hi All
  I'm wondering if I install in my G4 MDD Dual 1.25, two 1 GB PC3200 DDR 
  184 pin sticks and two 512 will the machine report 3 GB?

  Yes it will.

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  University of Arizona
  College of Pharmacy
  Information Technology Group

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Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-02 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
This was also done because I hacked the open firmware. I am sorry, but I
don't remember how the trick went. I first reset the open firmware by
starting up and pressing and holding Command+Option+P+R. Then, I restarted
into open firmware, and I typed in some kind of command to remove the limit
for RAM and some other stuff. It took me hours to figure out, and
unfortunately I forgot to save this command in textedit. It might be
somewhere on google... =(

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Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-02 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
Try looking on google. You most likely will find how to type in the command
on open firmware, but BEWARE. I had to re-install Leopard 4 times before my
system could settle with this 4GB setting.


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Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-02 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
My PM G4 Sawtooth did recognize 4GB. It's just that Leopard and the OF
weren't too happy with it for a while. Kps were a bit more common than I
thought they would be.


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Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-02 Thread Kris Tilford

On Jun 2, 2010, at 2:41 PM, John Carmonne wrote:

The RAM is on the way as soon as I get it I'll take a shot at it,  
otherwise it'll fit my PM G5.


Mark said there was some type of open firmware hack to get more RAM  
recognized. I looked hard and couldn't find one for the MDD  
specifically, but this article has some good information about why  
some large modules aren't recognized in some laptops, and how to use  
open firmware to correct this problem. It looks like this could lead  
you in the correct direction if it's possible to use 4GB in the MDD:


http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20080226020954481

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