On 4/16/12 7:36 PM, peterh...@cruzio.com peterh...@cruzio.com wrote:
Besides which, I have had my best results using a hacked version of Drive
Setup, in which I use ResEdit to change one of the Seagate drives to
support whatever new-to-me drive I encounter.
That's the way I always did it.
Besides which, I have had my best results using a hacked version of Drive
Setup, in which I use ResEdit to change one of the Seagate drives to
support whatever new-to-me drive I encounter.
That's the way I always did it. Just hack your drive setup entry with
ResEdit to make it see all drives.
I've got a CD drive and a CD-RW drive on ID4 and ID6 - I assume there's
proper SCSI termination - if only because I've been using this setup for
years without any problems.
However, I did a test to sidestep SCSI termination issues - I have an old
SCSI CD-ROM external drive case, and put a
However, I did a test to sidestep SCSI termination issues - I have an old
SCSI CD-ROM external drive case, and put a working SCSI HD in it. It
mounts, shows up on SCSI Bus 1. But the new 80 pin SCSI + adapter doesn't
mount when placed in the external enclosure.
The 8600 has two SCSI buses: a
on 4/16/12 12:09 PM, peterh...@cruzio.com at peterh...@cruzio.com wrote:
The 8600 has two SCSI buses: a 10 MB/sec internal bus and a 5 MB-sec
external bus. Each bus must be separately terminated.
The standard internal cable is 1-wide, as is the external bus, although
the external bus is 25
Incidentally, people are asking for some ridiculous prices for 50-pin SCSI
drives on eBay. Legacy apparently becomes antique at some point. I was
advised earlier on this forum that SCA drives were a workable option.
50-pin SCSI became archaic YEARS and YEARS ago.
Manufacturer capacity was
50-pin SCSI became archaic YEARS and YEARS ago.
Manufacturer capacity was changed to 68-pin (UW- and LVD/SE-SCSI) and
80-pin (SCA). Also various types of network-attached SCSI drives.
Seagate currently lists these SCSI drives:
9- and 18-GB Atlas (formerly Quantum, but re-branded as Seagate)
Here's my minimal experience with 80-pin to 50-pin adapted SCA drives:
1) mine also wouldn't recognize initially.
2) I believe I used jumpers on the DLY delay which causes the drive
to have time to spin-up from a cold start before it sends anything to
the Mac. My drives spun-up super slowly,
3) I had to initialize the drive the first time with software other
than Apple. I used FWB HD Toolkit I believe? Once initialized, the
Apple software saw the drive, and I could reinitialize with the Apple
software.
Drive Setup can be hacked, using ResEdit, to initialize almost ANY SCSI
At 2:12 PM -0700 4/16/2012, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote:
One NEED NOT buy FWB, which I generally consider as mal-ware.
With OS 7 thru 8.6, I preferred using FWB. Their driver was faster
than Apple's. That changed in 9.1, when Apple finally fixed their
buffering. At that point the two
One NEED NOT buy FWB, which I generally consider as mal-ware.
I prefer LaCie Silverlining anyway, which is even A/UX aware. But what's
your objection to FWB?
The only driver I had little love for was Intech Speedtools, and not
because it was poor but because it had nothing the others didn't and
On Apr 16, 2012, at 7:35 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
The only driver I had little love for was Intech Speedtools
I may have used SpeedTools rather than FWB to initialize my 80-to-50-
pin adapted SCA drives? Whichever I used, it wasn't because I thought
it had any advantage, it was because it
One NEED NOT buy FWB, which I generally consider as mal-ware.
But what's your objection to FWB?
Generally, a non-responsive and/or non-existent support group.
Besides which, I have had my best results using a hacked version of Drive
Setup, in which I use ResEdit to change one of the Seagate
I believe SpeedTools is the only MacOS software that works with HDs
larger than 128GB?
Probably, and why I retained it until I went over to MacOS X full time.
But, on my early MacOS X machines I usually employed the LBA48 hack, and
not Intech's kext.
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I bought a couple of used server HD's and adapters, and am finally getting
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I had a pair of 8.5G SCSI drives, and drive ID=0 started to show signs of
failure. The 2nd HD, ID=2, is ok so far.
The changeover is not as simple as I'd hoped (is
At 7:05 PM -0400 4/15/2012, Barry Levine wrote:
There are jumpers on both the adapter and on the HD. I presume I have to
set the SCSI ID on both of these (and have set it to 1).
Set the ID on the adapter ONLY.
And don't forget that the SCSI chain must be terminated.
- Dan.
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