G5 Power Supply Getting Weak; Best graphics card for G4/G5?

2014-02-08 Thread jim
I have an old 2.0 Ghz dual G5 that won't run my 24 ADC display anymore. I suspect it's power supply isn't up to the task any more. Is this common? Is there anything that can be done about it? What's the best (used/old/ebay) graphics card for a G5 or a MDD G4? Can I use the G5 graphics card in a

Re: Getting OS9.1 onto MDD

2012-04-30 Thread Deiniol ap Deiniol
Yes, just done some Googling.unfortunately none of my (4! - including one none-worker just bought for spares) Mirror Doors came with their restore CDsnothing on the Apple site in terms of downloads of this 'special' OS9. guess I'm gonna have to use one of the Quicksilvesr as an OS9

Re: Getting OS9.1 onto MDD

2012-04-30 Thread Clark Martin
Sent from an iPhone, but is it mine? On Apr 30, 2012, at 1:22 AM, Deiniol ap Deiniol autolycus.mercat...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, just done some Googling.unfortunately none of my (4! - including one none-worker just bought for spares) Mirror Doors came with their restore CDsnothing on

Re: Getting OS9.1 onto MDD

2012-04-30 Thread QuoVadis
Hello Clark, I dare say that won't work to actuallly boot the MDD, but it will work with Classic just fine (of this I'm sure). Reading through this link: http://macintoshgarden.org/forum/mac-os-922-install-g4-mdd I found out that you'll need MacOS ROM version 9.6.1 to be able to boot an MDD

Re: Getting OS9.1 onto MDD

2012-04-30 Thread Kris Tilford
On Apr 30, 2012, at 3:22 AM, Deiniol ap Deiniol wrote: Yes, just done some Googling.unfortunately none of my (4! - including one none-worker just bought for spares) Mirror Doors came with their restore CDsnothing on the Apple site in terms of downloads of this 'special' OS9. This

Re: Getting OS9.1 onto MDD

2012-04-30 Thread David W. Morris
Not sure about this discussion about OS9 not booting on an MDD. I have a dual 1.25GHz G4 MDD that I upgraded to dual 1.42GHz G4 CPU module board and before the upgrade to the faster G4 CPU module, I had placed an old 6gb hard drive from one of my G3 iMac's (Tangerine I believe), as I was

Re: Getting OS9.1 onto MDD

2012-04-30 Thread John Carmonne
On Apr 29, 2012, at 9:58 PM, Ken Daggett wrote: On 29 Apr 2012, at 21:30:28 PDT, Deiniol ap Deiniol wrote: The OS9 disc is a retail version AFAIK. I also tried my iMac DV OS9 disc, out of curiosity (desperation!?) - that again tells me I have OS9 installedwhen I tried from Tiger

Re: Getting OS9.1 onto MDD

2012-04-30 Thread t...@io.com
Once you get OS 9.2.2 on a bootable disk, there are five issues to contend with on the MDD. #1: The machine appears to accept your OS9 installation as bootable, but won't boot. As others have reported, you need Mac ROM 9.5.1 or later, AKA Mac OS CPU Software in your System Folder. #2: Sound

Re: Getting OS9.1 onto MDD

2012-04-30 Thread geraldcornish
guess I'm gonna have to use one of the Quicksilvesr as an OS9 machine - I was hoping to install the image processing (for RAW files) software that came with my Minolta DiMAGE - a 12 year old camera that is in no way obsolete (IMHO!) and is as superb as something that originally cost £1200

Re: Getting OS9.1 onto MDD

2012-04-30 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Apr 30, 2012, at 11:34 AM, geraldcornish wrote: guess I'm gonna have to use one of the Quicksilvesr as an OS9 machine - I was hoping to install the image processing (for RAW files) software that came with my Minolta DiMAGE - a 12 year old camera that is in no way obsolete (IMHO!) and is

Re: Getting OS9.1 onto MDD

2012-04-30 Thread geraldcornish
Thanks for the clarification Bruce. On 30 /04/ 2012, at 19:44, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Apr 30, 2012, at 11:34 AM, geraldcornish wrote: guess I'm gonna have to use one of the Quicksilvesr as an OS9 machine - I was hoping to install the image processing (for RAW files) software that came

Re: Getting OS9.1 onto MDD

2012-04-30 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 30-04-2012 10:48, QuoVadis ha scritto: I found out that you'll need MacOS ROM version 9.6.1 to be able to boot an MDD into OS9 Just in case someone is looking for MacOS ROM version 9.6.1 and cannot find it, I have it here; just ask privately. :-) -- You received this message

Getting OS9.1 onto MDD

2012-04-29 Thread Deiniol ap Deiniol
. I'm using Apple Display monitor on ADC connector, and I also plugged in a VGA monitor thru an adapter to the DVI connector but still no video, (just in case I was for some reason not getting video on the ADC monitor but ) So then I firewired my original iPod which has a copy of Tiger

Re: Getting OS9.1 onto MDD

2012-04-29 Thread Ken Daggett
On 29 Apr 2012, at 21:30:28 PDT, Deiniol ap Deiniol wrote: The OS9 disc is a retail version AFAIK. I also tried my iMac DV OS9 disc, out of curiosity (desperation!?) - that again tells me I have OS9 installedwhen I tried from Tiger am I missing something obvious here? ---

Re: Getting 80 pin SCSI to work in an 8600

2012-04-18 Thread Kyle Hansen
On 4/16/12 7:36 PM, peterh...@cruzio.com peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: Besides which, I have had my best results using a hacked version of Drive Setup, in which I use ResEdit to change one of the Seagate drives to support whatever new-to-me drive I encounter. That's the way I always did it.

Re: Getting 80 pin SCSI to work in an 8600

2012-04-18 Thread peterhaas
Besides which, I have had my best results using a hacked version of Drive Setup, in which I use ResEdit to change one of the Seagate drives to support whatever new-to-me drive I encounter. That's the way I always did it. Just hack your drive setup entry with ResEdit to make it see all drives.

Re: Getting 80 pin SCSI to work in an 8600

2012-04-16 Thread Barry Levine
I've got a CD drive and a CD-RW drive on ID4 and ID6 - I assume there's proper SCSI termination - if only because I've been using this setup for years without any problems. However, I did a test to sidestep SCSI termination issues - I have an old SCSI CD-ROM external drive case, and put a

Re: Getting 80 pin SCSI to work in an 8600

2012-04-16 Thread peterhaas
However, I did a test to sidestep SCSI termination issues - I have an old SCSI CD-ROM external drive case, and put a working SCSI HD in it. It mounts, shows up on SCSI Bus 1. But the new 80 pin SCSI + adapter doesn't mount when placed in the external enclosure. The 8600 has two SCSI buses: a

Re: Getting 80 pin SCSI to work in an 8600

2012-04-16 Thread Barry Levine
on 4/16/12 12:09 PM, peterh...@cruzio.com at peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: The 8600 has two SCSI buses: a 10 MB/sec internal bus and a 5 MB-sec external bus. Each bus must be separately terminated. The standard internal cable is 1-wide, as is the external bus, although the external bus is 25

Re: Getting 80 pin SCSI to work in an 8600

2012-04-16 Thread peterhaas
Incidentally, people are asking for some ridiculous prices for 50-pin SCSI drives on eBay. Legacy apparently becomes antique at some point. I was advised earlier on this forum that SCA drives were a workable option. 50-pin SCSI became archaic YEARS and YEARS ago. Manufacturer capacity was

Re: Getting 80 pin SCSI to work in an 8600

2012-04-16 Thread peterhaas
50-pin SCSI became archaic YEARS and YEARS ago. Manufacturer capacity was changed to 68-pin (UW- and LVD/SE-SCSI) and 80-pin (SCA). Also various types of network-attached SCSI drives. Seagate currently lists these SCSI drives: 9- and 18-GB Atlas (formerly Quantum, but re-branded as Seagate)

Re: Getting 80 pin SCSI to work in an 8600

2012-04-16 Thread Kris Tilford
Here's my minimal experience with 80-pin to 50-pin adapted SCA drives: 1) mine also wouldn't recognize initially. 2) I believe I used jumpers on the DLY delay which causes the drive to have time to spin-up from a cold start before it sends anything to the Mac. My drives spun-up super slowly,

Re: Getting 80 pin SCSI to work in an 8600

2012-04-16 Thread peterhaas
3) I had to initialize the drive the first time with software other than Apple. I used FWB HD Toolkit I believe? Once initialized, the Apple software saw the drive, and I could reinitialize with the Apple software. Drive Setup can be hacked, using ResEdit, to initialize almost ANY SCSI

Re: Getting 80 pin SCSI to work in an 8600

2012-04-16 Thread Dan
At 2:12 PM -0700 4/16/2012, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: One NEED NOT buy FWB, which I generally consider as mal-ware. With OS 7 thru 8.6, I preferred using FWB. Their driver was faster than Apple's. That changed in 9.1, when Apple finally fixed their buffering. At that point the two

Re: Getting 80 pin SCSI to work in an 8600

2012-04-16 Thread Cameron Kaiser
One NEED NOT buy FWB, which I generally consider as mal-ware. I prefer LaCie Silverlining anyway, which is even A/UX aware. But what's your objection to FWB? The only driver I had little love for was Intech Speedtools, and not because it was poor but because it had nothing the others didn't and

Re: Getting 80 pin SCSI to work in an 8600

2012-04-16 Thread Kris Tilford
On Apr 16, 2012, at 7:35 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: The only driver I had little love for was Intech Speedtools I may have used SpeedTools rather than FWB to initialize my 80-to-50- pin adapted SCA drives? Whichever I used, it wasn't because I thought it had any advantage, it was because it

Re: Getting 80 pin SCSI to work in an 8600

2012-04-16 Thread peterhaas
One NEED NOT buy FWB, which I generally consider as mal-ware. But what's your objection to FWB? Generally, a non-responsive and/or non-existent support group. Besides which, I have had my best results using a hacked version of Drive Setup, in which I use ResEdit to change one of the Seagate

Re: Getting 80 pin SCSI to work in an 8600

2012-04-16 Thread peterhaas
I believe SpeedTools is the only MacOS software that works with HDs larger than 128GB? Probably, and why I retained it until I went over to MacOS X full time. But, on my early MacOS X machines I usually employed the LBA48 hack, and not Intech's kext. -- You received this message because

Getting 80 pin SCSI to work in an 8600

2012-04-15 Thread Barry Levine
I bought a couple of used server HD's and adapters, and am finally getting around to trying to install them in my G3 (running OS8.6) I had a pair of 8.5G SCSI drives, and drive ID=0 started to show signs of failure. The 2nd HD, ID=2, is ok so far. The changeover is not as simple as I'd hoped

Re: Getting 80 pin SCSI to work in an 8600

2012-04-15 Thread Dan
At 7:05 PM -0400 4/15/2012, Barry Levine wrote: There are jumpers on both the adapter and on the HD. I presume I have to set the SCSI ID on both of these (and have set it to 1). Set the ID on the adapter ONLY. And don't forget that the SCSI chain must be terminated. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic

Re: advice on getting a dual G5`

2012-04-11 Thread QuoVadis
Hi Cameron, What constitutes 'more reliable'? Less problems with caps on the logic board or more reliable when performing at its peak? Just curious, wanting to upgrade to a G5 myself. Greetings, Eelco. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using

Re: advice on getting a dual G5`

2012-04-11 Thread Cameron Kaiser
worth getting because it has good grunt and reasonably good longevity (mine has been running great with only minimal maintenance since I bought it in 2006), but it can be noisier, definitely runs hotter, and uses a lot of power relative to the others. The original dual 2.3 (not the later PCIe

advice on getting a dual G5`

2012-04-10 Thread Jackie
I'm looking to upgrade to a dual G5 in the near future. I do a little graphic design (Quark 6.0 and Photoshop 4.0), need access to classic. I don't do any gaming. I've seen comments made about staying away from liquid cooled models (2.5 DP PCIx model 9457 and 2.7 DP PCI-x model 9749). Are there

Re: advice on getting a dual G5`

2012-04-10 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar
I had a late model dual 2.0 PCIx G5 for a while, it was great for graphics with an upgraded video card and had loads of processor power. It was the fastest one without water cooling, so I would look for one of those. Stephen On 4/9/12 4:16 PM, Jackie wrote: I'm looking to upgrade to a dual

Re: advice on getting a dual G5`

2012-04-10 Thread Cameron Kaiser
I had a late model dual 2.0 PCIx G5 for a while, it was great for graphics with an upgraded video card and had loads of processor power. It was the fastest one without water cooling, so I would look for one of those. Actually, the dual 2.3 is the fastest air-cooled unit. Personally, if I

Re: g4 mdd getting louder?

2012-03-22 Thread brchrnr
Certainly, the dust check is the first thing to do. I've had several MDDs using (without problems) this free developer software: CHUD Tools 3.5.2. Later versions of CHUD don't seem to work for this purpose. Install then access via System Preferences. You can allow nap mode and single processor

Re: g4 mdd getting louder?

2012-03-21 Thread rumble
thanks. i'll crack it open and see if i left a sweater in there. On Mar 20, 5:32 pm, rumble rum...@metrocast.net wrote: it seems to me that my old g4 mdd fan noise has gotten louder. is there anything i can do to get it to quiet down again? thanks -- You received this message because you

Re: g4 mdd getting louder?

2012-03-21 Thread Len Gerstel
On Mar 21, 2012, at 10:08 AM, rumble wrote: thanks. i'll crack it open and see if i left a sweater in there. On Mar 20, 5:32 pm, rumble rum...@metrocast.net wrote: it seems to me that my old g4 mdd fan noise has gotten louder. is there anything i can do to get it to quiet down again?

Re: g4 mdd getting louder?

2012-03-21 Thread peterhaas
thanks. i'll crack it open and see if i left a sweater in there. Apple's PSUs are pretty good, but they are obviously built to a competitive price point. Usually in Hong Kong, Taiwan or, now, mainland China. NO high-cost components as would be found on, say, an IBM mainframe computer PSU,

Re: g4 mdd getting louder?

2012-03-21 Thread Dan
At 2:52 PM -0700 3/20/2012, Clark Martin wrote: On Mar 20, 2012, at 2:32 PM, rumble rum...@metrocast.net wrote: it seems to me that my old g4 mdd fan noise has gotten louder. is there anything i can do to get it to quiet down again? Clean out the dust. Dust Bunnies. 'Tis the season.

g4 mdd getting louder?

2012-03-20 Thread rumble
it seems to me that my old g4 mdd fan noise has gotten louder. is there anything i can do to get it to quiet down again? thanks -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The

Re: g4 mdd getting louder?

2012-03-20 Thread Clark Martin
Sent from an iPhone, but is it mine? On Mar 20, 2012, at 2:32 PM, rumble rum...@metrocast.net wrote: it seems to me that my old g4 mdd fan noise has gotten louder. is there anything i can do to get it to quiet down again? Clean out the dust. -- You received this message because you

Re: g4 mdd getting louder?

2012-03-20 Thread glen
On Mar 20, 2012, at 2:32 PM, rumble rum...@metrocast.net wrote: it seems to me that my old g4 mdd fan noise has gotten louder. is there anything i can do to get it to quiet down again? Clean out the dust. Absolutely, recently purchased a MDD and while unpacking it a dust bunny about

Re: g4 mdd getting louder?

2012-03-20 Thread JohnCarmonne
On Mar 20, 2012, at 2:32 PM, rumble wrote: it seems to me that my old g4 mdd fan noise has gotten louder. is there anything i can do to get it to quiet down again? thanks I have been able to peel back the sticker in the center of the hub very carefully and a little drop of olive oil

Re: Getting really sick of access privileges

2011-11-26 Thread Doug McNutt
At 18:29 -0800 11/25/11, Tom wrote: For example, I just pulled a TIFF image from Computer A to Computer B. I open it on Computer B, make some adjustments to color, and then try to Save, and up pops a box that says I can't Save because I don't have the necessary access privileges. That sounds as

Getting really sick of access privileges

2011-11-25 Thread Tom
privileges. So I try to Save As with a different name-- with the same result--can't Save because I don't have the access privileges. I tell you, I'm getting really sick of privileges and not having them, and not being able to get them either. What am I doing wrong? Is there a way around

Re: Getting really sick of access privileges

2011-11-25 Thread Kris Tilford
Run Disk Utility?Repair Permissions on both Computer A B. This problem could be with the application and not with the file. It may be telling you that you don't have privileges to Save within the application rather than the file's privileges have an issue. Hopefully Repair Permissions

Re: Getting really sick of access privileges

2011-11-25 Thread Alex Barnes
It's UNIX. Not Mac OS X. Most OSes have the permissions crud because they are optimized for multi user systems. The only OS I know of that doesn't have permissions is BeOS. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs

Getting there

2010-11-19 Thread Tom
It sounds like you have a CD drive in your BW G3. They came with a CD only drive. Most if not all of the OS x disks 10.3 and above are DVD disks and require a combo CD/DVD drive of one flavor or another. Back when Apple would exchange ones newly purchased OS DVD for CDs. What would fit on 1 or 2

Re: Getting there

2010-11-19 Thread Paul Stamsen
Previously, at 8:59 AM -0800 11/19/10, as Tom so eloquently wrote: It sounds like you have a CD drive in your BW G3. They came with a CD only drive. Most if not all of the OS x disks 10.3 and above are DVD disks and require a combo CD/DVD drive of one flavor or another. Back when Apple would

Re: Getting there

2010-11-19 Thread Kris Tilford
On Nov 19, 2010, at 1:15 PM, Paul Stamsen wrote: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D What does the verbose message say when you try to boot a disc using Cmd-v? Are you certain the jumpers aren't in conflict on the drives? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for

Re: Getting there

2010-11-19 Thread Clark Martin
On Nov 19, 2010, at 8:59 AM, Tom wrote: It sounds like you have a CD drive in your BW G3. They came with a CD only drive. Most if not all of the OS x disks 10.3 and above are DVD disks and require a combo CD/DVD drive of one flavor or another. Back when Apple would exchange ones newly

Re: Getting there

2010-11-19 Thread Paul Stamsen
Previously, at 1:29 PM -0600 11/19/10, as Kris Tilford so eloquently wrote: On Nov 19, 2010, at 1:15 PM, Paul Stamsen wrote: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D What does the verbose message say when you try to boot a disc using Cmd-v? It says it cannot connect with the DVD drive. Are you certain the

Re: Getting there

2010-11-19 Thread Kris Tilford
On Nov 19, 2010, at 1:54 PM, Paul Stamsen wrote: What does the verbose message say when you try to boot a disc using Cmd-v? It says it cannot connect with the DVD drive. I've never heard of such a message in the verbose dialog? Sounds like a hardware issue which you won't fix by changing

Re: Getting there

2010-11-19 Thread Paul Stamsen
Previously, at 3:37 PM -0600 11/19/10, as Kris Tilford so eloquently wrote: I've never heard of such a message in the verbose dialog? Sounds like a hardware issue which you won't fix by changing discs. Sorry, I paraphrased. Anyway I got a black label Panther and it's installed. I'd rather do

Re: Getting there

2010-11-19 Thread Kris Tilford
On Nov 19, 2010, at 3:56 PM, Paul Stamsen wrote: Sorry, I paraphrased. Anyway I got a black label Panther and it's installed. I'd rather do Tiger but everyone wants too much $ If you have any Tiger DVD (including grey ones), which I believe you have, you should be able to install Tiger. I

Re: Getting there

2010-11-18 Thread John Carmonne
On Nov 17, 2010, at 2:40 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Nov 17, 2010, at 3:06 PM, Paul Stamsen wrote: OK, OK, time to 'fess up. I'm trying to use two dark grey disks for an eMac (which have been fine previously) but I cannot get the Smurf to boot from them nor do any versions of XPF

Re: Getting there

2010-11-18 Thread John Carmonne
The problem seems to be getting a good copy of the appropriate XPF so far 3.0 or 3.1 can't see the install disk. 4.0 says it is not for this Power PC (as I recall I am getting a little foggy in my old age and at this late hour . . . Try this site. http://eshop.macsales.com/OSXCenter

Re: Getting there

2010-11-18 Thread Jonas Ulrich
I've also had several Blue and Whites, all of which ran 10.4 fine. Have you checked if the firmware is up to date? -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ

Re: Getting there

2010-11-18 Thread Paul Stamsen
Previously, at 8:48 PM -0800 11/17/10, as Jonas Ulrich so eloquently wrote: I've also had several Blue and Whites, all of which ran 10.4 fine. Have you checked if the firmware is up to date? The problem seems to be in the CD drive. The install disk is not loading. Thanks, p. -- I have a

Re: Getting there

2010-11-18 Thread Amanda Ward
Paul... On Nov 18, 2010, at 7:30 AM, Paul Stamsen wrote: I have a rock garden. Last week three of them died. -- Richard Diran And I thought I had an anti-green thumb! ;-) Amanda -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5

Getting there

2010-11-17 Thread Paul Stamsen
Over the weekend I managed to gunge up my BW to the point where a re-install was necessary. I've gotten as far as 10.2.3 and can get no further, despite good copies of 10.3.3. I cannot seem to find the right version of XpostFacto. 3.0 won't see the discs, 4. won't see anything. I am so spoiled

Re: Getting there

2010-11-17 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Nov 17, 2010, at 8:41 AM, Paul Stamsen wrote: Over the weekend I managed to gunge up my BW to the point where a re-install was necessary. I've gotten as far as 10.2.3 and can get no further, despite good copies of 10.3.3. I cannot seem to find the right version of XpostFacto. 3.0

Re: Getting there

2010-11-17 Thread Dan
At 8:41 AM -0700 11/17/2010, Paul Stamsen wrote: Over the weekend I managed to gunge up my BW to the point where a re-install was necessary. How so? I've gotten as far as 10.2.3 and can get no further, despite good copies of 10.3.3. I cannot seem to find the right version of XpostFacto. 3.0

Re: Getting there

2010-11-17 Thread John Carmonne
On Nov 17, 2010, at 7:41 AM, Paul Stamsen wrote: Over the weekend I managed to gunge up my BW to the point where a re-install was necessary. I've gotten as far as 10.2.3 and can get no further, despite good copies of 10.3.3. I cannot seem to find the right version of XpostFacto. 3.0 won't

Re: Getting there

2010-11-17 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Nov 17, 2010, at 8:48 AM, John Carmonne wrote: Are you running XPostFacto from OS 9.2.2 On a partition under 8GB? That's where I start also check the Apple site for a possible firmware update for your machine. If he is, it is COMPLETELY un-necessary. The 8GB limit ONLY applies to

Re: Getting there

2010-11-17 Thread Amanda Ward
Hey Paul... On Nov 17, 2010, at 7:41 AM, Paul Stamsen wrote: Over the weekend I managed to gunge up my BW to the point where a re-install was necessary. I've gotten as far as 10.2.3 and can get no further, despite good copies of 10.3.3. I cannot seem to find the right version of

Re: Getting there

2010-11-17 Thread Lawrence David Eden
I installed OSX 10.4 on my old Smurf and XPostFacto was required. 10.2 (Jaguar) was the last OS version that was fully supported on the Smurf. Larry At 8:41 AM -0700 11/17/2010, Paul Stamsen wrote: Over the weekend I managed to gunge up my BW to the point where a re-install was

Re: Getting there

2010-11-17 Thread Amanda Ward
Hi Larry... On Nov 17, 2010, at 12:29 PM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: I installed OSX 10.4 on my old Smurf and XPostFacto was required. 10.2 (Jaguar) was the last OS version that was fully supported on the Smurf. Larry I have two BW machines that would respectfully disagree. Installed

Re: Getting there

2010-11-17 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Nov 17, 2010, at 1:29 PM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: I installed OSX 10.4 on my old Smurf and XPostFacto was required. 10.2 (Jaguar) was the last OS version that was fully supported on the Smurf. That is absolutely not true. I've installed 10.4 directly onto one. -- Bruce Johnson

Re: Getting there

2010-11-17 Thread Mike Linnett
On 17 Nov 2010, at 20:37, Amanda Ward amanda.w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Larry... On Nov 17, 2010, at 12:29 PM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: I installed OSX 10.4 on my old Smurf and XPostFacto was required. 10.2 (Jaguar) was the last OS version that was fully supported on the Smurf.

Re: Getting there

2010-11-17 Thread Amanda Ward
On Nov 17, 2010, at 12:43 PM, Mike Linnett wrote: On 17 Nov 2010, at 20:37, Amanda Ward amanda.w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Larry... On Nov 17, 2010, at 12:29 PM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: I installed OSX 10.4 on my old Smurf and XPostFacto was required. 10.2 (Jaguar) was the last

Re: Getting there

2010-11-17 Thread John Carmonne
On Nov 17, 2010, at 9:49 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Nov 17, 2010, at 8:48 AM, John Carmonne wrote: Are you running XPostFacto from OS 9.2.2 On a partition under 8GB? That's where I start also check the Apple site for a possible firmware update for your machine. If he is, it is

Re: Getting there

2010-11-17 Thread John Carmonne
On Nov 17, 2010, at 12:37 PM, Amanda Ward wrote: Hi Larry... On Nov 17, 2010, at 12:29 PM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: I installed OSX 10.4 on my old Smurf and XPostFacto was required. 10.2 (Jaguar) was the last OS version that was fully supported on the Smurf. Larry I have two

Re: Getting there

2010-11-17 Thread dc
On Nov 17, 3:29 pm, Lawrence David Eden lde...@comcast.net wrote: I installed OSX 10.4 on my old Smurf and XPostFacto was required. 10.2  (Jaguar) was the last OS version that was fully supported on the Smurf. (Hi Larry!) When I installed Tiger on your revived from the dead Smurf I did straigth

Re: Getting there

2010-11-17 Thread Paul Stamsen
Previously, at 1:40 PM -0700 11/17/10, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Nov 17, 2010, at 1:29 PM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: I installed OSX 10.4 on my old Smurf and XPostFacto was required. 10.2 (Jaguar) was the last OS version that was fully supported on the Smurf. That is absolutely not true. I've

Re: Getting there

2010-11-17 Thread Lawrence David Eden
Too bad I didn't know about this List a few years agoI could have saved a lot of time and trouble! Larry On Nov 17, 3:29 pm, Lawrence David Eden lde...@comcast.net wrote: I installed OSX 10.4 on my old Smurf and XPostFacto was required. 10.2 (Jaguar) was the last OS version that

Re: Getting there

2010-11-17 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Nov 17, 2010, at 3:06 PM, Paul Stamsen wrote: OK, OK, time to 'fess up. I'm trying to use two dark grey disks for an eMac (which have been fine previously) but I cannot get the Smurf to boot from them nor do any versions of XPF see them. I had no problem in the past using those same

Re: Getting there

2010-11-17 Thread Paul Stamsen
Previously, at 3:40 PM -0700 11/17/10, Bruce Johnson wrote: Are you SURE about the 'no problems in the past'? Because gray disks are system-specific restore disks, and typically do not work on other systems. X my heart. I used XPF and it worked, I dunno, sometime its macMagic, I guess. ;-) P.

Re: Getting there

2010-11-17 Thread Clark Martin
, not that they can't otherwise run Tiger. In those cases XPF is simply getting the installer to bypass the machine check. If the machine does have FireWire the installer still goes ahead and installs on it. If you don't know if a machine needs XPF or not it's probably best to try without

Re: Getting there

2010-11-17 Thread Kris Tilford
On Nov 17, 2010, at 5:01 PM, Paul Stamsen wrote: It sees the disks. Just won't boot from them. I've tried all three methods. All these posting about whether or not you need XPF and we still don't know what happens when you try to boot the disc? For example, you say all three methods, but

Re: Getting there

2010-11-17 Thread Tina K.
On 2010/11/17 15:06, Paul Stamsen so eloquently wrote: I had no problem in the past using those same discs and no, I don't recall which way you spell disxs. My impression is that optical media is disc, as in Compact Disc, and that hard drives use disks. But then I could be wrong too. Tina

Re: Getting there

2010-11-17 Thread Andrew Liu Anderson
Tina K. wrote: On 2010/11/17 15:06, Paul Stamsen so eloquently wrote: I don't recall which way you spell disxs. My impression is that optical media is disc, as in Compact Disc, and that hard drives use disks. But then I could be wrong too. Tina Both are variants of the same word, like

Re: Getting there

2010-11-17 Thread Tina K.
On 2010/11/17 18:05, Andrew Liu Anderson so eloquently wrote: Both are variants of the same word, like Grey and Gray. I hate that. I always feel like I am mis-spelling it regardless of which spelling I use. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR

Re: Getting there

2010-11-17 Thread Paul Stamsen
, not that they can't otherwise run Tiger. In those cases XPF is simply getting the installer to bypass the machine check. If the machine does have FireWire the installer still goes ahead and installs on it. If you don't know if a machine needs XPF or not it's probably best to try without

Re: Getting there

2010-11-17 Thread Paul Stamsen
Previously, at 5:05 PM -0800 11/17/10, as Andrew Liu Anderson so eloquently wrote: Both are variants of the same word, like Grey and Gray. As I recall, one spelling is more popular in the UK the other is more popular in the US, but both are correct in either country. Saved! -- You received

Re: Getting there

2010-11-17 Thread Paul Stamsen
was supported on the BW. XPF also offers a GUI for enabling certain boot flags permanently, so XPF can add some functionality to the BW that isn't easily available otherwise. The problem seems to be getting a good copy of the appropriate XPF so far 3.0 or 3.1 can't see the install disk. 4.0 says

Re: Getting there

2010-11-17 Thread Paul Stamsen
Previously, at 10:06 PM -0600 11/17/10, as Kris Tilford so eloquently wrote: Hold the Cmd-v keys at the Restart and see what the hold-up is? Says it cannot load the disk drive (I think) p. -- Results! Why, man, I have gotten a lot of results. I know several thousand things that won't work.

Re: G4 getting wonky with cpu hungry widgets.

2009-11-29 Thread carter foreman
I want to Thank every one who read and responded to my thread. I learned a few things and i will investigate the Onyx and the applejack. What i forgot to do before i posted to the list was to boot from OSX installer DVD and run Disk Utility. Heh. I did that and it couldn't fix it. So i ran

Re: G4 getting wonky with cpu hungry widgets.

2009-11-26 Thread carter foreman
On Nov 25, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Dan wrote: At 6:48 PM -0500 11/24/2009, carter foreman wrote: G4 dual 1ghz 1.5 GB RAM, OS 10.4.11. Fully updated, Safari 4.0.4 also? yep Spotlight indexing enabled? yep Lately i have been having an issue with the widgets taking way too much cpu time. So

Re: G4 getting wonky with cpu hungry widgets.

2009-11-25 Thread Dan
At 6:48 PM -0500 11/24/2009, carter foreman wrote: G4 dual 1ghz 1.5 GB RAM, OS 10.4.11. Fully updated, Safari 4.0.4 also? Spotlight indexing enabled? Lately i have been having an issue with the widgets taking way too much cpu time. So i turned them off. Dashboard can be problematic. It

G4 getting wonky with cpu hungry widgets.

2009-11-24 Thread carter foreman
Hi I have a G4 dual 1ghz 1.5 GB RAM, OS 10.4.11. Lately i have been having an issue with the widgets taking way too much cpu time. So i turned them off. Safari keeps quiting and it takes way too much CPU time too. Apps quit too frequently and memory seems to be leaking. Right now i am running

Re: G4 getting wonky with cpu hungry widgets.

2009-11-24 Thread Bill Connelly
On Nov 24, 2009, at 6:48 PM, carter foreman wrote: Hi I have a G4 dual 1ghz 1.5 GB RAM, OS 10.4.11. Lately i have been having an issue with the widgets taking way too much cpu time. So i turned them off. Safari keeps quiting and it takes way too much CPU time too. Apps quit too

Re: G4 getting wonky with cpu hungry widgets.

2009-11-24 Thread Kasey Smith
Have you tried repairing permissions? On Nov 24, 2009, at 4:48 PM, carter foreman wrote: Hi I have a G4 dual 1ghz 1.5 GB RAM, OS 10.4.11. Lately i have been having an issue with the widgets taking way too much cpu time. So i turned them off. Safari keeps quiting and it takes way too much

Re: G4 getting wonky with cpu hungry widgets.

2009-11-24 Thread carter foreman
yup that dosnt seem to affect it. On Nov 24, 2009, at 8:24 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: Have you tried repairing permissions? On Nov 24, 2009, at 4:48 PM, carter foreman wrote: Hi I have a G4 dual 1ghz 1.5 GB RAM, OS 10.4.11. Lately i have been having an issue with the widgets taking way too

Re: Repairing a Power Mac G4 Quicksilver 2002 and getting it running again

2009-08-31 Thread Dana Collins
On 8/30/09 10:04 PM, Robert Menes of viewtiful.icc...@gmail.com sent Hi everyone, I have a Power Mac G4 (Quicksilver 2002, 800 MHz) that needs a little repair work done on it. My girlfriend got the machine from a neighbor of hers, and it needed RAM and a video card. A friend of mine

Getting to OS 9 by way of OS X

2008-12-20 Thread Jonas Lopez
Getting to OS 9 from OS X. When you go to System Pref / Classic for the first time after install, you will get a request asking to make some changes to OS 9. What is going on here is that an ENABLER is installed and if you now look at the OS 9 system folder you will see a very faint big X

Re: Getting to OS 9 by way of OS X

2008-12-20 Thread Mullin9
I had 3 OS 9 systems and only the first one that the system found was changed and the faint big X added to its folder. This folder MUST be kept or you will not be able to get to OS 9 from OS X. Not exactly true You must have at least 1 OS 9 System Folder in your Mac, for it to have

Re: Getting to OS 9 by way of OS X

2008-12-20 Thread Mike Baker
programs. --- On Sat, 12/20/08, Mullin9 ddavidmul...@inbox.com wrote: From: Mullin9 ddavidmul...@inbox.com Subject: Re: Getting to OS 9 by way of OS X To: G3-5 List g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 10:43 PM I had 3 OS 9 systems and only the first one

Re: Getting to OS 9 by way of OS X

2008-12-20 Thread Paul
You can install OS 9 on the Sawtooth. It's best to use a separate partition from OS X or a separate drive There's a good chance the iMac OS 9 disks won't work, though, especially if the iMac is older than your G4. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message

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