Hard drives seen but not mounting
A couple of questions about hard drives and synching. I have a dozen IDE hard drives of assorted sizes and makes from 4GB up to 250GB that maybe one or two are definitely bricks. When I hook them up in an external enclosure some show up in Disk utility (only the first line, the second does not show on the left hand side in the listing of drives) and they don't mount. I can't run first aid and it looks like I can reinitialize some of them but not others. Before I try the reinitialize option I would like to see what is on them first. Drive Genius and Tech Tool do not see them either, only Disk Utility does so far. The others mount and run fine. I have tried different USB and firewire ports and cables, a different enclosure as well with no improvement. Looking around the web I am reading that since I am using (a PowerMac G5 with) Leopard 10.5.8, that may be causing the problem. It has been suggested that I check them while running Tiger or even Panther. Before I install Panther or Tiger on a drive and run it in the G5 I was hoping someone had some experience with this issue and could offer some guidance. Thank you. m ray bluellama...@embarqmail.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hard drives seen but not mounting
On Feb 15, 2010, at 11:32 AM, mark ray wrote: Looking around the web I am reading that since I am using (a PowerMac G5 with) Leopard 10.5.8, that may be causing the problem. Highly unlikely. It has been suggested that I check them while running Tiger or even Panther. Largely BS evidence. Where are the drives coming from? If they're coming from Windows systems they may be NTFS, and if they were unmounted in a 'dirty' state, they may not be mountable with out the force option, which (iirc) Disk Utility does not offer. You need HTFS-3G for OS X: NTFS-3G for OS X http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/system_disk_utilities/ntfs3g.html This also gains you REad/Write access to NTFS volumes. If, after this you cannot mount the volumes, likely there's nothing to mount; reformat 'em and test 'em. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hard drives seen but not mounting
Thanks Bruce that's why I was asking. These were all from macs I have had in my studio and upgraded over the years. one or two may have come from an external case. I will check out your suggestion, thank you, appreciate your advice. mark ray bluellama...@embarqmail.com On Feb 15, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 15, 2010, at 11:32 AM, mark ray wrote: Looking around the web I am reading that since I am using (a PowerMac G5 with) Leopard 10.5.8, that may be causing the problem. Highly unlikely. It has been suggested that I check them while running Tiger or even Panther. Largely BS evidence. Where are the drives coming from? If they're coming from Windows systems they may be NTFS, and if they were unmounted in a 'dirty' state, they may not be mountable with out the force option, which (iirc) Disk Utility does not offer. You need HTFS-3G for OS X: NTFS-3G for OS X http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/system_disk_utilities/ntfs3g.html This also gains you REad/Write access to NTFS volumes. If, after this you cannot mount the volumes, likely there's nothing to mount; reformat 'em and test 'em. -- Bruce Johnson -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hard drives seen but not mounting
-Original Message- From: mark ray bluellama...@embarqmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Feb 15, 2010 10:32 am Subject: Hard drives seen but not mounting A couple of questions about hard drives and synching. I have a dozen IDE hard drives of assorted sizes and makes from 4GB up to 250GB that maybe one or two are definitely bricks. When I hook them up in an external enclosure some show up in Disk utility (only the first line, the second does not show on the left hand side in the listing of drives) and they don't mount. I can't run first aid and it looks like I can reinitialize some of them but not others. Before I try the reinitialize option I would like to see what is on them first. Drive Genius and Tech Tool do not see them either, only Disk Utility does so far. The others mount and run fine. I have tried different USB and firewire ports and cables, a different enclosure as well with no improvement. Looking around the web I am reading that since I am using (a PowerMac G5 with) Leopard 10.5.8, that may be causing the problem. It has been suggested that I check them while running Tiger or even Panther. Before I install Panther or Tiger on a drive and run it in the G5 I was hoping someone had some experience with this issue and could offer some guidance. Thank you. m ray bluellama...@embarqmail.com If disk utility sees the drive then DiskWarrior should also. I would run Diskwarrior on them. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA - -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hard drives seen but not mounting
On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:34 PM, mark ray wrote: Thanks Bruce that's why I was asking. These were all from macs I have had in my studio and upgraded over the years. one or two may have come from an external case. I will check out your suggestion, thank you, appreciate your advice. If they were all from Macs or external systems they're either HFS+ or FAT32, not NTFS, you would have to go out of your way to make 'em NTFS. If they're scavenged from Windows systems, though, NTFS is a distinct possibility. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hard drives seen but not mounting
On Feb 15, 2010, at 1:32 PM, mark ray wrote: I have a dozen IDE hard drives of assorted sizes and makes from 4GB up to 250GB that maybe one or two are definitely bricks. When I hook them up in an external enclosure some show up in Disk utility (only the first line, the second does not show on the left hand side in the listing of drives) and they don't mount. I can't run first aid and it looks like I can reinitialize some of them but not others. Before I try the reinitialize option I would like to see what is on them first. Drive Genius and Tech Tool do not see them either, only Disk Utility does so far. The others mount and run fine. I have tried different USB and firewire ports and cables, a different enclosure as well with no improvement. * I encountered this problem yesterday. The issue in my case turned out to be insufficient power to the external drive enclosure, which when enhanced with a secondary USB (I assume it might as effectively been through an AC power brick) power supply to the 5 volt DC power receptacle on the enclosure, the seemingly unreadable drive suddenly immediately became readable, and I was then successful in transferring the data on the drive in the enclosure to my new MacBook. In my case, the extra power was supplied by a cable with a USB connector attached to the second USB receptacle on the MacBook, which has the right size cylindrical plug for the drive enclosure's auxiliary power receptacle at the other end. It might be worth note that this same external drive enclosure, containing the same hard drive, when used via FireWire on my PowerBook G4, without any external power supply, is able to boot and operate the PowerBook G4. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
