Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-06-01 Thread Arnel Tuazon
On 10/05/11 12:50 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: Go to these sources: http://www.tonymacx86.com/ http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a?hl=en For a wealth of information on building a Hack that DOES NOT REQUIRE altering the OS X installer; you install from the

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-14 Thread Ralph Green
On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 15:15 -0700, Bruce Johnson wrote: On May 13, 2011, at 1:50 PM, Ralph Green wrote: On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 09:46 -0700, Bruce Johnson wrote: On May 12, 2011, at 7:33 PM, Ralph Green wrote: I called Apple hardware treacherous. I did not come up with that term. It

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-14 Thread Arnel Tuazon
On 10/05/11 12:50 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On May 10, 2011, at 9:27 AM, Jack Countryman wrote: IPC 10.5.6?? What's IPC mean here, or where do I find that version of 10.5.6? Yeah, I know...you know what you mean, but I'm not that much up to speed on this

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-14 Thread Bruce Johnson
On May 14, 2011, at 1:25 AM, Ralph Green wrote: I insist on no such thing. I just steer clear of it. No fear mongering is involved. Just rational analysis. Hence the use of rational, non-emotional words like 'treacherous' and 'His Steveness' and 'control freak'. 8-/ The *hardware*

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-13 Thread Jonas Lopez
of use in. It is just a matter of money. JML --- On Fri, 5/13/11, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu Subject: Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess. To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, May 13, 2011, 9:46 AM On May

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-13 Thread Kris Tilford
On May 13, 2011, at 9:29 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: If you believe that EFI is some great conspiracy to prevent you from running another OS on a Mac it is YOU who doesn't understand what EFI is. I believe he's referring to TPM, not EFI. My understanding of TPM is that it's a set of

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-13 Thread Ralph Green
Bruce, EFI is fine. BIOS had major problems, since it runs in real mode. It is TPM that is the problem. Apple certainly used TPM on their early x86 hardware. If they have removed it, that is a good thing. I will have to search for some real evidence on that matter. Ralph On Fri, 2011-05-13

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-13 Thread Jonas Lopez
. JML --- On Fri, 5/13/11, Alex Barnes kab...@gmail.com wrote: From: Alex Barnes kab...@gmail.com Subject: Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess. To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, May 13, 2011, 12:25 PM That already happened. I have found that iMovie is superior to WMM

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-12 Thread Brian Kemp
Linux with it's open-source concepts can't make changes to the proprietary code that is Flash. If Adobe doesn't compile it for Power PC there's really nothing the open-source world can do about it. There are a few Free Software tools to play Flash files but all are lacking in some way -

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-12 Thread Kris Tilford
On May 12, 2011, at 3:59 PM, Ralph Green wrote: I used an Ubuntu box, since Firefox 4 doesn't run on any of my macs. The 1.2 GHz G4 I am eying should be fast enough, if FF4 gets recompiled for PPC. Already been done, FF4 for PPC: http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ -- You

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-12 Thread Ralph Green
On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 15:14 -0700, Bruce Johnson wrote: On May 12, 2011, at 1:59 PM, Ralph Green wrote: Apple's hardware is worthless to me, since I won't buy treacherous hardware. Whaaa??? Apple's x86 hardware uses Intel TPM. There are some at Apple who deny this, but the fact that

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-12 Thread Alex Barnes
The reason why the battery can't be replaced is because it is so large, lasts 10, 7 or 8 hours depending on your model and can take up to 1000 cycles. How does Steve Jobs decide what runs on Mac OS X??? An iMac with a Radeon 6970 coupled to a Sandy Bridge Core i7 is a bad hardware decision???

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-12 Thread Charles Lenington
On 5/10/11 1:51 PM, Alex Barnes wrote: You can also go with Linux Mint 10. I prefer it to Ubuntu. You can build a cheap quad core system for under $500. Just get your parts form CompUSA. Oh sure, drive from OKC to where ever there is a CompUSA to buy parts from a store that laid me off in

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-12 Thread Ralph Green
On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 20:33 -0600, Alex Barnes wrote: Just because you have an issue with a store doesn't mean everyone else does. My CompUSA is 1 mile from my house. On May 12, 2011, at 8:20 PM, Charles Lenington wrote: On 5/10/11 1:51 PM, Alex Barnes wrote: You can also go with Linux

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-12 Thread Ralph Green
On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 20:03 -0600, Alex Barnes wrote: The reason why the battery can't be replaced is because it is so large, lasts 10, 7 or 8 hours depending on your model and can take up to 1000 cycles. How does Steve Jobs decide what runs on Mac OS X??? An iMac with a Radeon 6970

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-11 Thread Jerry Kemp
What happened to Yellow Dog Linux PPC? At least at some point in the past when Apple was still on PPC, that was the Linux to run, if you needed to run it on Apple hw. Jerry On 05/10/11 15:58, Alex Barnes wrote: PPC linux has terrible 3rd party support. Most versions of software say linux

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-11 Thread Doug McNutt
At 19:18 -0500 5/10/11, Jerry Kemp wrote: What happened to Yellow Dog Linux PPC? At least at some point in the past when Apple was still on PPC, that was the Linux to run, if you needed to run it on Apple hw. I think the OP's original problem was the fact that Adobe Flash and other byproducts

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-11 Thread Alex Barnes
I tried it. And hated it. I don't know why though... On May 10, 2011, at 6:18 PM, Jerry Kemp wrote: What happened to Yellow Dog Linux PPC? At least at some point in the past when Apple was still on PPC, that was the Linux to run, if you needed to run it on Apple hw. Jerry On 05/10/11

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-10 Thread Bruce Johnson
On May 10, 2011, at 9:27 AM, Jack Countryman wrote: IPC 10.5.6?? What's IPC mean here, or where do I find that version of 10.5.6? Yeah, I know...you know what you mean, but I'm not that much up to speed on this stuff anymore, and must have missed the post somewhere that talks about what

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-10 Thread JoeTaxpayer
Well, if you know Kalyway, then you know that any hack disc image is going to have a name. IPC 10.5.6 Final was just one that worked for this poster. Google it, you'll see downloads available. On May 10, 12:27 pm, Jack Countryman jcoun...@mac.com wrote: IPC 10.5.6??  What's IPC mean here, or

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-10 Thread Jonas Ulrich
IPC is the distro of 10.5.6 that I used. I recommend it, out of all the ones I've tried, it's the best. It has all the drivers and patches needed for the two systems I mentioned before. -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-10 Thread iJohn
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: A hand me down PC laptop and a copy of Leopard might even be cheaper. In my experience, Leopard is only inexpensive if you happen to already own a retail copy of it which you can re-purpose. Otherwise Snow

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-10 Thread Doug McNutt
At 22:36 -0400 5/9/11, admin wrote: Adobe Flash 10.2 Intel only, I believe. Web sites are starting not to work under Leopard and Firefox Camino 2.0.7, Firefox 3.6.17, Safari 5.0.5. I can do everything I need to and still use Classic Programs with my G4 computers. I'd rather invest in

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-10 Thread Alex Barnes
You can also go with Linux Mint 10. I prefer it to Ubuntu. You can build a cheap quad core system for under $500. Just get your parts form CompUSA. On May 10, 2011, at 12:46 PM, Doug McNutt wrote: At 22:36 -0400 5/9/11, admin wrote: Adobe Flash 10.2 Intel only, I believe. Web sites are

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-10 Thread Jonas Ulrich
For web browsing, movie watching, and word processing, you wouldn't even need a quad core. You could easily use a P4 system. I'm using a P4 3.2GHZ machine and it runs pretty fast. You could get a descent P4 system for $100-$150 easy. -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-10 Thread imrazor
On May 10, 1:46 pm, Doug McNutt dougl...@macnauchtan.com wrote: Give some serious consideration to using ubuntu Linux on a used or otherwise cheap Intel machine. If the OP wants Flash, Linux PPC is not the way to go. Last time I tried Ubuntu on a G5, Flash support was horrible. Had a lot of

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-10 Thread Alex Barnes
PPC linux has terrible 3rd party support. Most versions of software say linux but don't specify that it's x86 or x64 only. You can pull it off though. You'll need Debian Linux as it has the best PPC support. On May 10, 2011, at 2:08 PM, imrazor wrote: On May 10, 1:46 pm, Doug McNutt

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-10 Thread Dan
At 10:21 PM -0500 5/9/2011, Kris Tilford wrote: On May 9, 2011, at 9:36 PM, admin wrote: [with more context] Adobe Flash 10.2 Intel only, I believe. Web sites are starting not to work under Leopard and Firefox Camino 2.0.7, Firefox 3.6.17, Safari 5.0.5. I haven't encountered any problems

I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-09 Thread admin
Adobe Flash 10.2 Intel only, I believe. Web sites are starting not to work under Leopard and Firefox Camino 2.0.7, Firefox 3.6.17, Safari 5.0.5. I can do everything I need to and still use Classic Programs with my G4 computers. I'd rather invest in redundancy with machines and external

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-09 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 2:36 AM, admin oneluc...@mac.com wrote: Adobe Flash 10.2 Intel only, I believe. Web sites are starting not to work under Leopard and Firefox Camino 2.0.7, Firefox 3.6.17, Safari 5.0.5. I can do everything I need to and still use Classic Programs with my G4 computers.

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-09 Thread Jonas Ulrich
I moved to Intel, but there is no way I'm ever going to pay Apple prices. You can pick up a PC for under $100 and run Leopard on it. That is the cheapest way to go Intel. -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-09 Thread Kris Tilford
On May 9, 2011, at 9:36 PM, admin wrote: Adobe Flash 10.2 Intel only, I believe. I haven't encountered any problems with the final PPC Adobe Flash 10.1.102.64. What problems have you encountered? Web sites are starting not to work under Leopard and Firefox Camino 2.0.7, Firefox 3.6.17,

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-09 Thread admin
I haven't encountered any problems with the final PPC Adobe Flash 10.1.102.64. What problems have you encountered? Didn't document but an online mainstream newspaper asked for 10.2. I did just install 10.1.102.64, so will see how that does. Web sites are starting not to work under

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-09 Thread Tina K.
On 2011/05/09 20:36, admin so eloquently wrote: Adobe Flash 10.2 Intel only, I believe. Web sites are starting not to work under Leopard and Firefox Camino 2.0.7, Firefox 3.6.17, Safari 5.0.5. I can do everything I need to and still use Classic Programs with my G4 computers. I'd rather invest in

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-09 Thread Jonas Ulrich
I'm using a machine with an Intel D915GAG board. Fully supported, though I'm only running Leopard. I installed with IPC 10.5.6. Here is the guide I posted on my blog. I posted guides for a few other cheap Hackintosh machines. If you want to buy a complete machine that will work, I suggest the