Horrible news for the troops in the field. IS the world about to change continued badly

2010-11-08 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/education/apple-xserve-is-gone-is-os-x-server-next/4321?tag=nl.e550 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at

Re: Horrible news for the troops in the field. IS the world about to change continued badly

2010-11-08 Thread Dan
Title: Re: Horrible news for the troops in the field. IS the worl At 12:08 AM + 11/9/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/education/apple-xserve-is-gone-is-os-x-server-next/4321 I don't agree with that article's off-the-wall speculation that Mac OS X Server is on

Re: Horrible news for the troops in the field. IS the world about to change continued badly

2010-11-08 Thread Alex
I don't see this as a bad thing. The Xserve never sold well compared to the PowerMac G5, Mac Pro, the Mac Mini server and servers like IBM's Blade servers.It sold to a small market because it was not a large website server but it wasn't a small file server. Apple will probably release a newer

Re: Horrible news for the troops in the field. IS the world about to change continued badly

2010-11-08 Thread Joshua Juran
On Nov 8, 2010, at 6:09 PM, Dan wrote: At 12:08 AM + 11/9/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/education/apple-xserve-is-gone-is-os-x-server-next/4321 No. The world is not about to change due to this. I don't agree with that article's off-the-wall speculation

Re: Flash only? WAS:Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-27 Thread Tina K.
On 2010/10/25 11:12, John Martz so eloquently wrote: At the moment the only one I know of is Seagate's Momentus XT which I understand to be a 7200 RPM 2.5 drive with the traditional 32MB RAM cache but also a 4GB SSD. The pertinent difference here is probably not so much the 4GB of SSD but

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-27 Thread Richard Gerome
So where is the Wizard??? I would like to visit Oz!!! To see the Lion on a new Apple!!! P.S. This is how they never end... -Original Message- From: Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net Sent: Oct 27, 2010 10:48 AM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IS the world about

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: IS the world about to change ? Date:Freitag 22 Oktober 2010N From:Dan dantear...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com […] The world economy is in an awfully deep hole right now. Yet, Apple's sales are booming, while

Re: Flash only? WAS:Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread Dan
At 4:55 PM +0200 10/26/2010, Mac User #330250 wrote: interface - cache - big flash cache organized as a SSD - HD. So, the performance of the SSD is mainly to make valued files, like startup files or files which are accessed very often, faster available through the SSD. Yea, sortof.

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Mac User #330250 macuser330...@gmx.netwrote: -- Original message -- Subject: Re: IS the world about to change ? Date:Freitag 22 Oktober 2010N From:Dan dantear...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com […] The world economy

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 26, 2010, at 8:05 AM, Mac User #330250 wrote: Sales of desktop computers in general are dropping in favour of portable units, like classic laptops or the “newly invented” smaller version of it: netbooks. Netbook sales have crashed since the introduction of the iPad. Laptop sales

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 26, 2010, at 9:12 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Mac User #330250 macuser330...@gmx.netwrote: -- Original message -- Subject: Re: IS the world about to change ? Date:Freitag 22 Oktober 2010N From:Dan dantear

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread JoeTaxpayer
From http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=107357p=irol-faq#corpinfo2 Q: What is Apple's mission statement? A: Apple designs Macs, the best personal computers in the world, along with OS X, iLife, iWork, and professional software. Apple leads the digital music revolution with its iPods and

Re: Flash only? WAS:Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Flash only? WAS:Re: IS the world about to change ? Date:Dienstag 26 Oktober 2010N From:Dan dantear...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Not the OS. The cache hit tracking in the device's firmware. It doesn't know files

RE: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread Swigart, Kurt A [NTK]
...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Johnson Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 1:13 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IS the world about to change ? On Oct 26, 2010, at 9:12 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Mac User #330250 macuser330...@gmx.netwrote

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread Bill Connelly
Is this thread ever going to end? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread James Therrault
On Oct 26, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Mac User #330250 macuser330...@gmx.net wrote: -- Original message -- Subject: Re: IS the world about to change ? Date:Freitag 22 Oktober 2010N From:Dan dantear

Re: Flash only? WAS:Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread Dan
At 8:46 PM +0200 10/26/2010, Mac User #330250 wrote: Not the OS. The cache hit tracking in the device's firmware. It doesn't know files, just block addresses. Well, I read differently. This was discussed when Windows 7 was introduced. Apparently it can make use of this functionality and

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread Dan
At 2:02 PM -0600 10/26/2010, James Therrault wrote: On Oct 26, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Is that so? I heard that the computer segment in general is booming right now, not as much as Apple of course, but still, the market advances and the profits too. Here's a view

Re: Flash only? WAS:Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread iJohn
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: In fact, many of the hybrid drives are even more limited than I've represented in this thread. WHAT other hybrid drives?? I'd appreciate a pointer towards them because the only hybrid I'm am aware of at the moment is Seagate's

Re: Flash only? WAS:Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread Tina K.
On 2010/10/26 13:14, Dan so eloquently wrote: Why do it that way? Well, it reduces the number of writes to the flash memory by quite a bit. This gives the brick a longer life. ... Remember, the goal is to make this thing work at least one day beyond the warranty period. (Seagate is doing a 5

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 26, 2010, at 11:19 AM, Swigart, Kurt A [NTK] wrote: I think Bruce Johnson missed the point on that last poster. You're not exercising a sense of entitlement by pointing out that a corporation has abandoned their original core beliefs. From where are you getting Apple's original

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 26, 2010, at 12:21 PM, Dan wrote: At 2:02 PM -0600 10/26/2010, James Therrault wrote: On Oct 26, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Is that so? I heard that the computer segment in general is booming right now, not as much as Apple of course, but still, the market

Re: Flash only? WAS:Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread Dan
At 2:17 PM -0600 10/26/2010, Tina K. wrote: Regardless of the warranty, it will probably be a long time before I purchase any sort of aftermarket SSD. I love my thumb drives, but I consider them more or less disposable. I expect much more out of a long term data storage/retrieval system. The

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread James Therrault
On Oct 26, 2010, at 1:21 PM, Dan wrote: At 2:02 PM -0600 10/26/2010, James Therrault wrote: On Oct 26, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Is that so? I heard that the computer segment in general is booming right now, not as much as Apple of course, but still, the market

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread Ashgrove
On Oct 26, 4:34 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: The only concrete example I can think of is at the Intel introduction where Jobs stated that the PowerPC was definitely going to be supported through the next OS version, which it was. 10.4 to 10.5 also took a lot longer

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread Ashgrove
On Oct 26, 3:03 pm, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: Is this thread ever going to end? I have been wondering the same thing... :-) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread Jeff Bequette
On Oct 26, 2010, at 11:52 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Oct 26, 2010, at 8:05 AM, Mac User #330250 wrote: Sales of desktop computers in general are dropping in favour of portable units, like classic laptops or the “newly invented” smaller version of it: netbooks. Netbook sales have

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread admin
But are the operating system (reaching 64-bit) and computers really changing much any more? They both seem to have matured to me. On Oct 26, 2010, at 4:34 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Apple has built and deliberately demolished their business several times: Apple II to Mac, Mac OS to OS X (and

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 26, 2010, at 6:53 PM, Ashgrove wrote: On Oct 26, 3:03 pm, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: Is this thread ever going to end? I have been wondering the same thing... :-) This is the thread that never ends It goes on and on and on, my friends... Someone started writing

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread Joshua Juran
On Oct 26, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Ashgrove wrote: On Oct 26, 4:34 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: The only concrete example I can think of is at the Intel introduction where Jobs stated that the PowerPC was definitely going to be supported through the next OS version, which

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-25 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Oct 23, 2010, at 10:33 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: I took a video project to the talent's home tonight. They brought out an early Intel Mac laptop. The files were Quicktime. The small resolution

Re: Flash only? WAS:Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-25 Thread John Martz
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 2:16 PM, JoeTaxpayer joetaxpaye...@gmail.com wrote: I never say never, but I've been watching this industry for nearly 30 years, and suspect that until and unless SSD cost drops to a lower X of HD, both will be there side by side depending on the platform it goes in.

Re: Flash only? WAS:Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-25 Thread Dan
At 1:12 PM -0400 10/25/2010, John Martz wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 2:16 PM, JoeTaxpayer wrote: I never say never, but I've been watching this industry for nearly 30 years, and suspect that until and unless SSD cost drops to a lower X of HD, both will be there side by side depending on

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-25 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 24, 2010, at 11:13 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: The ONLY reason our college has Mac support at ALL is me, and it's pure happenstance that I work where I work, because I had some experience programming, a teensy bit of database experience and a willingness to dive into terra

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-25 Thread Ashgrove
On Oct 25, 2:13 am, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote:  That department has hundreds of Macs of all ages form the early Aught's to present. This department was put into a refurbed historic building and is state of the art for 3 years ago when it was completed. It replaces

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-24 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 23, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Her use of the conversational alternatives reminds me that were rich text to be legitimized on LEM we could use text formatting such as font or color to intercut and clarify for those who are challenged by comparing the

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-24 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 23, 2010, at 2:40 PM, John Callahan wrote: Recently I had the temerity to ask what all the conversation about IS the world about to change ? is and although I have read thousands of comments about the subject failed to receive an answer. Either no one knows or I have somehow done

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-24 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 23, 2010, at 10:33 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: I took a video project to the talent's home tonight. They brought out an early Intel Mac laptop. The files were Quicktime. The small resolution overview played fine. The wide screen HQ files were only 1024 wide or so but played

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-24 Thread Ashgrove
On Oct 24, 3:34 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: (in my case: one of each...I never use Dashboard, couldn't live   without Spaces). That makes two of us. I started using Desktop Manager in Tiger before Leopard even reared its spotted head, and was very grateful when Apple

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-24 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Oct 23, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Her use of the conversational alternatives reminds me that were rich text to be legitimized on LEM we could use text formatting such as font or

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-23 Thread James Therrault
On Oct 22, 2010, at 6:39 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:59 PM, glen glenst...@yahoo.com wrote: The make do's is what what life is about. Since I done the do's all my life (not just computers) , I don't know what I would do without them. -- Seriously

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-23 Thread Stephen Conrad
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Sarge3041969 electron25...@aol.comwrote: I am kinda wondering what we are supposed to do with all of these old Macs now that Apple has deemed them as useless? Maybe they will go the way of the old Mac Classics with everyone trying to make aquariums out of

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-23 Thread Powermac
Low end to me means the basic models, starter systems. If you are poor stick to an older used PC you can get for little money. Also learn to work on your own machines when they fail, this means buying some basic tools and using google to find fixes. The fact is the computer indistry doesn't care

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-23 Thread Dan
At 6:55 AM -0700 10/23/2010, Powermac wrote: Low end to me means the basic models, starter systems. Back in the 68k and PPC days, low end to me was any Mac not current. These days, low end to me is all 68k and PPC Macs, plus all Macs with x86 processors - current and previous. The fact is

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-23 Thread Tina K.
On 2010/10/20 17:03, Eric Herbert so eloquently wrote: This sounds awful since I've been an Apple user since birth (Parents bought their first Apple 2 weeks before I was born!) but if Apple goes ahead with this kindergarten approach they show on Lion, I may consider running Windows. Don't do

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-23 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Powermac teozen...@gmail.com wrote: Low end to me means the basic models, starter systems. If you are poor stick to an older used PC you can get for little money. Also learn to work on your own machines when they fail, this means buying some basic tools and

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-23 Thread Tina K.
On 2010/10/20 10:50, john Carmonne so eloquently wrote: On Oct 20, 2010, at 9:26 AM, Fluxstringer wrote: Lion ? Will Lion be compatible with PPC G5? Don't we wish. On second thought, maybe not. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR Power Mac June

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-23 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 6:25 PM + 10/23/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Powermac wrote: Low end to me means the basic models, starter systems. If you are poor stick to an older used PC you can get for

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-23 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 6:25 PM + 10/23/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Powermac wrote: Low end to me means the basic models, starter systems. If you are poor stick to an older used PC you can get for

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-23 Thread Tina K.
On 2010/10/20 12:55, Kris Tilford so eloquently wrote: I went to the Apple site to watch the streaming video of the presentation and was rudely greeted with this: Streaming video requires Safari 4 or 5 on Mac OS X Snow Leopard or Safari on iOS 3 or later. I'm on a PPC G5 with 10.5.8 and

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-23 Thread John Callahan
(snip) Recently I had the temerity to ask what all the conversation about IS the world about to change ? is and although I have read thousands of comments about the subject failed to receive an answer. Either no one knows or I have somehow done something to offend the Lords of the Manor

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-23 Thread Dan
At 5:40 PM -0400 10/23/2010, John Callahan wrote: Recently I had the temerity to ask what all the conversation about IS the world about to change ? is and although I have read thousands of comments about the subject failed to receive an answer. Either no one knows or I have somehow done

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-23 Thread John Callahan
On Oct 23, 2010, at 6:30 PM, Dan wrote: GUI A graphical user interface (GUI), often pronounced gooey,[1] is a type of user interface that allows users to interact with programs in more ways than typing such as computers; hand-held devices such as MP3 players, portable media players or

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-23 Thread Powermac
Still have that 8500 case and the machine works great, but I have moved on to a G4 1.25Ghz Quicksilver for my fastest hobby mac (I am still a PC user for boring work related stuff). While I don't use the 8500 daily like I used to, that machine has been 100% reliable using the same components I

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-23 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 9:40 PM, John Callahan jcalla...@stny.rr.comwrote: (snip) Recently I had the temerity to ask what all the conversation about IS the world about to change ? is and although I have read thousands of comments about the subject failed to receive an answer. Either no one

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-23 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
I took a video project to the talent's home tonight. They brought out an early Intel Mac laptop. The files were Quicktime. The small resolution overview played fine. The wide screen HQ files were only 1024 wide or so but played haltingly. Yuck! And streaming video off youtube was a joke. I do

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-22 Thread Dan
At 7:46 PM -0700 10/21/2010, ah...clem wrote: a HD's reliable life is still more than one order of magnitude greater than the best (most expensive) SSD currently available. SSD's have a finite number of read/write cycles that just doesn't compare to a well-built HD (quantum, seagate, maxtor).

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-22 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:48 PM, glen glenst...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com Content with prettier eye candy sells ideas If you cannot keep up with the current style your content looks flaky and suspect. Think here of mimeographed political

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-22 Thread Sri Gupta
On Oct 21, 9:46 pm, ah...clem boneheads...@gmail.com wrote: translation, not anytime soon.  tho' a mechanical device, a HD's reliable life is still more than one order of magnitude greater than the best (most expensive) SSD currently available.  SSD's have a finite number of read/write cycles

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-22 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
Yeah, NAND cycles and SD vs HD is what this thread is about and not the factthat I was inspired by LION and Apple/Jobs going deep to the dark side is what this is about -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-22 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Sri Gupta srigu...@tulanealumni.netwrote: On Oct 21, 9:46 pm, ah...clem boneheads...@gmail.com wrote: translation, not anytime soon. tho' a mechanical device, a HD's reliable life is still more than one order of magnitude greater than the best (most

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-22 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Sri Gupta srigu...@tulanealumni.netwrote: On Oct 21, 9:46 pm, ah...clem

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-22 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 22,

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-22 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 22,

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-22 Thread Dan
Title: Re: IS the world about to change ? At 3:24 PM + 10/22/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Yeah, NAND cycles and SD vs HD is what this thread is about and not the fact that I was inspired by LION and Apple/Jobs going deep to the dark side is what this is about I think Apple

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-22 Thread Illirik Smirnov
This is the reason that I really don't care about new Apple products. I use what I use, and when something of mine breaks I look for the thing that does what it used to do in the nicest, cheapest, and fastest way possible. New apple products don't do things that my old Apple (and other

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-22 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 3:24 PM + 10/22/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Yeah, NAND cycles and SD vs HD is what this thread is about and not the fact that I was inspired by LION and Apple/Jobs going deep to the dark side is what this is

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-22 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Illirik Smirnov illir...@gmail.com wrote: This is the reason that I really don't care about new Apple products. I use what I use, and when something of mine breaks I look for the thing that does what it used to do in the nicest, cheapest, and fastest way

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-22 Thread glen
From: Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com When you have done it all your life, make dos, work arounds, Goldberg and McGivering get very old and tiresome. PCs promise a lot and deliver headaches whether 'Nux or Winslowz. I am tired ... LOW END to me means poor. People too

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-22 Thread Jeff Bequette
On Oct 22, 2010, at 11:42 AM, Dan wrote: At 3:24 PM + 10/22/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Yeah, NAND cycles and SD vs HD is I think Apple is simply responding to customer desires, good or bad. People want laptops that are more rugged and have better battery life. Currently,

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-22 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:59 PM, glen glenst...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com When you have done it all your life, make dos, work arounds, Goldberg and McGivering get very old and tiresome. PCs promise a lot and deliver headaches whether

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-22 Thread Chance Reecher
I like the way everyone keeps complaining about not being able to watch the Keynote... Apple does have an H.264 Apple Events podcast in iTunes, you know. On 10/22/10 8:36 PM, Jeff Bequette wrote: It was kinda annoying I could watch the speech on the iPhone, but not on my Mac... Jeff

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-22 Thread Richard Gerome
ct: Re: IS the world about to change ? On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:48 PM, glen glenst...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com When you have done it all your life, " make dos", work arounds, Goldberg and McGivering get very old and tiresome. P

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Brian Christmas
On 21/10/2010, at 4:51 PM, Tom wrote: Here's a link to a Seattle Times article on the Lion operating system: http://tinyurl.com/24jese8 I notice that Apple's new laptop computers will have flash drives instead of hard drives. Does that mean that flash drives will eventually replace hard

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Clark Martin
On Oct 20, 2010, at 11:03 PM, Brian Christmas wrote: As the cost of flash memory drops, it appears likely that an OS will be developed that uses flash as it's boot and running ram, but hard drives will continue to be used for 'bulk' storage for some time to come. Flash will become

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.comwrote: Lion ? --- It looks like my one word post and simple title question have hit some nerves. Money talks and BS does not want to pay to play (

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Brian Christmas
On 21/10/2010, at 7:27 PM, Clark Martin wrote: On Oct 20, 2010, at 11:03 PM, Brian Christmas wrote: As the cost of flash memory drops, it appears likely that an OS will be developed that uses flash as it's boot and running ram, but hard drives will continue to be used for 'bulk'

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Brian Christmas
On 21/10/2010, at 7:51 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: Lion ? --- It looks like my one word post and simple title question have

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread James Therrault
On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:40 AM, Brian Christmas wrote: Unfortunately obsolescence is a fact of life in the electronics industry, even tho it's not planned. That may be true but Marketing certainly is planned. And, I see Apple slipping into big brother mode which humankind will

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Brian Christmas b...@tpg.com.au wrote: On 21/10/2010, at 7:51 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.comwrote: Lion ?

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Brian Christmas
On 21/10/2010, at 10:02 PM, James Therrault wrote: On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:40 AM, Brian Christmas wrote: Unfortunately obsolescence is a fact of life in the electronics industry, even tho it's not planned. That may be true but Marketing certainly is planned. You're correct. The

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:02 AM, James Therrault jetas...@netzero.comwrote: On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:40 AM, Brian Christmas wrote: Unfortunately obsolescence is a fact of life in the electronics industry, even tho it's not planned. That may be true but Marketing certainly is planned.

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
This may help. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.youtube.com/fluxstringer http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Brian Christmas
On 21/10/2010, at 10:20 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: This may help. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model Very interesting. I feel like I'm in a different state tho, an calm analytical one, - I don't like the situation, what can I do about it? Regards Santa And

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Arnel Tuazon
On 21/10/10 7:02 AM, James Therrault jetas...@netzero.com wrote: On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:40 AM, Brian Christmas wrote: Unfortunately obsolescence is a fact of life in the electronics industry, even tho it's not planned. That may be true but Marketing certainly is planned. And,

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Joshua Juran
On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:38 AM, Brian Christmas wrote: On 21/10/2010, at 10:02 PM, James Therrault wrote: If things turn out as many are suggesting, Apple's ascension may run smack into a brick wall. Unless there's an early groundswelling, i doubt it. The hugely popular ascent of the iPad

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Brian Christmas b...@tpg.com.au wrote: On 21/10/2010, at 10:20 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: This may help. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model *Very* interesting. I feel like I'm in a different state tho, an calm analytical

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Joshua Juran
On Oct 21, 2010, at 4:38 AM, Arnel Tuazon wrote: On 21/10/10 7:02 AM, James Therrault jetas...@netzero.com wrote: And, I see Apple slipping into big brother mode which humankind will naturally resist. I have detected a creaping feeling of the heavy thumb of Applelonian control. ...And

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Brian Christmas
On 21/10/2010, at 10:58 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Brian Christmas b...@tpg.com.au wrote: On 21/10/2010, at 10:20 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: This may help. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model Very

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Jeff Bequette
the bottom line Air has only the flash drive and skinny to recommend it. As my high school daughter told her friend in the apple store one, day, It's a poser computer for looking pretty in coffee shops- no dvd, get a macbook instead. She was glared at by the genius in the area. If I was

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Bruce Johnson
By default, the hard drive has been hidden on Every version of OS X. By d -- Bruce On Oct 20, 2010, at 8:30 PM, Chance Reecher cha...@reecher.net wrote: 2) The demo didn't show a hard drive on the desktop, but we'd still have access to it right? By default the hard drive is hidden from

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Richard Gerome
.com Subject: Re: IS the world about to change ? On 21/10/2010, at 7:51 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: Lion ? ---It looks like my one word post

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 20, 2010, at 10:51 PM, Tom wrote: I notice that Apple's new laptop computers will have flash drives instead of hard drives. Does that mean that flash drives will eventually replace hard drives in all computers, then? That's been predicted for about 20 years now. Hard drives are one of

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 21, 2010, at 4:20 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: This may help. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model You DO know that research has shown her model is as valid as the Phlogiston model of chemistry, right? Well-reasoned, meticulously detailed and utterly fractal

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread James Therrault
On Oct 21, 2010, at 4:38 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:02 AM, James Therrault jetas...@netzero.com wrote: snip Since that time, I've seen Apple go through two major OS changes, (68xxx, PPC and lastly Intel), and while each of these changes

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:24 AM, James Therrault wrote: Some years back, Michael Dell made an utterance to the effect, We are now in Chapter X of computing and when Chapter Xx is written, Apple won't be in it. If one follows stocks at all, Dell's been languishing in the cellar while Apple's

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Doug McNutt
If we lose the optical disk what will we have for archiving? Financial data coming from the bank is rapidly moving to computer files. What about those pictures we take to help in filing a fire insurance claim? Your last decade of income tax filings. Home-written CD-ROMs are not the best but

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread James Therrault
On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:21 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:24 AM, James Therrault wrote: Some years back, Michael Dell made an utterance to the effect, We are now in Chapter X of computing and when Chapter Xx is written, Apple won't be in it. If one follows stocks at all,

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Ted Treen
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:24 AM, James Therrault wrote: Some years back, Michael Dell made an utterance to the effect, We are now in Chapter X of computing and when Chapter Xx is written, Apple won't be in it. If one follows stocks at all, Dell's been languishing in the

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread John Callahan
I'm confused! What is this change that so many people are talking about? Thanks On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Richard Gerome wrote: Subject: Re: IS the world about to change ? I'm not as young as I used to be But I'm not as old as I'm going to be! SO WATCH IT!!! -- You received

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