Re: Infamous error 36
On 02/06/10 8:12 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: You don't mention what version of OSX you're using. With 10.3 or 10.4 when you start getting those errors, a reboot is pretty much in order; Samba client performance in those versions was geared much more towards the Windows servers. This is a 10.5.X. From what you've said here, I'm inclined to go look at the server's log, as suggested by Ralph, to see if there's a message there. Ralph, by login in, I meant I'm able to login into an account on the server. 10.5 dramatically improved smb: performance, particularly with linux servers. If you're having these problems on an older version, my advice is upgrade right away. 10.6 introduced some new twists. I got a lot of useful info hunting down some 10.6 issues (not error-36 issues, though) at the MacWindows site. However it was stuff on the Linux side that had to be fixed...not a problem in my case. The reason you're finding so many useless, disparate hits for Error 36 is because it's possibly the most useless error message ever...what it really means is The server's not talking to me, I give up. Thanks Bruce, this makes a lot of sense, especially considering the various Google finds suggesting tricks by others work. The tricks are as varied as the authors, yet the error---error 36--is the same. So, common problem, different solutions. Confusing, but not after reading what you've said here, Bruce. I will try and report back, after poking at the server. I should say though when I copy smaller files, it works. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Infamous error 36
On Jun 1, 2010, at 8:51 PM, Nestamicky wrote: Google pages are steaming with this error: The Finder cannot complete the operation because some of the data in smb://[..] could not be read or written I'm Googled out, trying to find a solution that works. Got any ideas? I'm trying to copy from a Linux machine with a Samba server. You don't mention what version of OSX you're using. With 10.3 or 10.4 when you start getting those errors, a reboot is pretty much in order; Samba client performance in those versions was geared much more towards the Windows servers. 10.5 dramatically improved smb: performance, particularly with linux servers. If you're having these problems on an older version, my advice is upgrade right away. 10.6 introduced some new twists. I got a lot of useful info hunting down some 10.6 issues (not error-36 issues, though) at the MacWindows site. However it was stuff on the Linux side that had to be fixed...not a problem in my case. The reason you're finding so many useless, disparate hits for Error 36 is because it's possibly the most useless error message ever...what it really means is The server's not talking to me, I give up. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Infamous error 36
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 07:16 -0600, Nestamicky wrote: On 01/06/10 10:14 PM, Ralph Green wrote: Thanks for that. I log in using password and user name. I'm able to login and transfer, but after a while, get the error. What I'm finding amazing is how common this problem is and yet there does not seem a definitive solution. This is a first for my dealings with OSX. Howdy, When you say you login, that is not clear. Do you login to the samba share, or did you mean you login to the Mac. As Bruce said, error 36 is a generic message. I don't know the root cause of your problem, but the generic error message is Apple's fault. So, you need to dig a little to find out what is going on. There are 2 things I can suggest for now. Apple has an article discussing one cause of error 36 messages. They tell you to get around it by configuring the way OSX 10.4 authenticates. See: http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1564 Before that, I'd look in the logs on the Linux server. The logs are probably in the directory /var/log/samba and I'd look at the most recent logs(ls -l -t /var/log/samba). Do this right after the Mac gives you an error. My guess is the interesting two will be log.nmbd and log.your_ip_address, where the ip address is the ip address if the OSX machine you are connecting from. You don't say what version of OSX you are using and that may be significant. I found the samba drivers in 10.2 to be very unreliable, but the ones in 10.4 have worked very well for me. Bruce says the 10.5 samba support connecting to Linux is even better. I am not using Leopard yet, but I can believe it. It might even matter what version of Samba is on Linux, but really only if it is a very old version. I mean 10 years type old, not just that you don't have the latest patches. Good luck, Ralph -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Infamous error 36
Google pages are steaming with this error: The Finder cannot complete the operation because some of the data in smb://[..] could not be read or written I'm Googled out, trying to find a solution that works. Got any ideas? I'm trying to copy from a Linux machine with a Samba server. Thanks for your considered thoughts. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Infamous error 36
Error -36 indicates a disc operation is timing out. There is a terminal command CP that may help you - you can make it copy the files it can while skipping the ones it can't. On Jun 1, 2010, at 11:51 PM, Nestamicky wrote: Google pages are steaming with this error: The Finder cannot complete the operation because some of the data in smb://[..] could not be read or written I'm Googled out, trying to find a solution that works. Got any ideas? I'm trying to copy from a Linux machine with a Samba server. Thanks for your considered thoughts. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Infamous error 36
On 01/06/10 9:54 PM, Nikki Wraith wrote: Error -36 indicates a disc operation is timing out. There is a terminal command CP that may help you - you can make it copy the files it can while skipping the ones it can't. This makes sense since further research points to I/O error. I'd can't say I know how to use CP to copy under my particular circumstances. Thanks for the idea though. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Infamous error 36
Either one of the drives involved is crapping out, or your network has serious packet loss.. On Jun 1, 2010, at 11:57 PM, Nestamicky wrote: On 01/06/10 9:54 PM, Nikki Wraith wrote: Error -36 indicates a disc operation is timing out. There is a terminal command CP that may help you - you can make it copy the files it can while skipping the ones it can't. This makes sense since further research points to I/O error. I'd can't say I know how to use CP to copy under my particular circumstances. Thanks for the idea though. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Infamous error 36
On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 23:54 -0400, Nikki Wraith wrote: Error -36 indicates a disc operation is timing out. There is a terminal command CP that may help you - you can make it copy the files it can while skipping the ones it can't. Howdy, http://support.apple.com/kb/TA20949?viewlocale=en_US indicates that other samba setup problems can cause this. Is the share setup to support guest access? If not, are you supplying the correct username and password? If you want the samba share to support guest access, look at /etc/samba/smb.conf. See if you have these three lines under the share definition you are trying to access: guest ok = yes public = yes browseable = yes Good luck, Ralph -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
