Re: Jury/jerry rigging.
Someone else believes thusly: JURY rigged is sailing term, as in Mast. rigging the mast or sails. Jerry rigged is a Slap at German's at the end of WWII, Nazi's to be exact...when they started to run otu of supplies and needed to fix thangs! Thus Jerry rigged, meaning put together crumily.. I also agree its best not to use the N-word even when explaining racist references. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Jury/jerry rigging.
On Feb 16, 1:54 pm, JohnV vengbj...@verizon.net wrote: Jerry rig / Jury rig Years ago, on a remote island in the northern Lau group of the Fijian chain, where we did a lot of jury rigging, I thought the term was jerry rig. So, a friend and I conspired that if we ever got back to the main land we'd start a school and call it the Jerry Rig School of Construction and Maintenance. We'd issue fancy diplomas (mail order only of course) that displayed our mottos, viz. 1. We may be slow but at least we're expensive. 2. We save you money because we don't use tape measures. 3. We guarantee 1/4 inch tolerance. Now, I see we confused the terms: we were jury rigging but our creed describes jerrybuilding. Nevertheless, Jerry Rig lives on and continues to respond to our needs when low or no budget constraint demand. However, now we call his work, cardboard solutions. Cliff -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Jury/jerry rigging.
You know, not all of my responses are getting through to the G3-G5 list ... And my post to Mac Pro aren't getting up on the Mac Pro board ... having been scolded for trying to publish them here ... I believe my posts have been banned by the Nannie, or at least have to be reviewed first ... So why is all this rigging stuff going through, when it has nothing to do with computers, much less G3-G4 or G5s? Guess this list needs less jerry-rigging ... process seems broken. On Feb 15, 2013, at 3:29 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 15, 2013, at 12:55 PM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Feb 15, 2013, at 10:34 AM, Dan Stobbs autolycus.mercat...@gmail.com wrote: Here's the Wikipaedia definition of both terms. Jury rigging refers to makeshift repairs or temporary contrivances, made with only the tools and materials that happen to be on hand. Originally a nautical term, on sailing ships a jury rig is a replacement mast and yards improvised in case of damage or loss of the original mast. When more permanence is meant by the term, such a build may be referred to as jerry rigged. On Feb 15, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Got it! Jury Rigged == Duct Tape Jerry Rigged == Duct tape AND a hose clamp I'm not sure I see the logic of these? I never heard the nautical reference at all, and don't see its etymology? I thought jury rigged was like a court jury that was rigged for an acquittal of the defendant. This is something risky because it's illegal and if it goes wrong it blows up in your face. Well, Random House agrees with the nautical derivation of the term:http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.pperl?date=19960711 Jerry-rigged seems to be a mashup of 'Jerry-built' an English slang-term from the late 1800's meaning 'of shoddy construction' and jury-rig. http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/9245 None of this has anything to do with '12 good men and true' OR germans... -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Jury/jerry rigging.
That's what's up. On Feb 15, 2013 12:11 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Feb 15, 2013, at 10:34 AM, Dan Stobbs autolycus.mercat...@gmail.com wrote: Here's the Wikipaedia definition of both terms. Jury rigging refers to makeshift repairs or temporary contrivances, made with only the tools and materials that happen to be on hand. Originally a nautical term, on sailing ships a jury rig is a replacement mast and yards improvised in case of damage or loss of the original mast. When more permanence is meant by the term, such a build may be referred to as jerry rigged. Got it! Jury Rigged == Duct Tape Jerry Rigged == Duct tape AND a hose clamp -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Jury/jerry rigging.
I'm a long time fan of Evan Morris' WORD DETECTIVE columns... http://www.word-detective.com/about/ from which I extract the following: Jerry rig / Jury rig Caught in the rigging. Dear Word Detective: I’m curious about the word “jerryrig,” as in to make do with materials on hand. I recently saw it spelled “juryrig,” but the context seemed to be the same. Is the correct spelling “jerry” or “jury” and what is the origin of the word? What, if anything, does it have to do with a rigged jury? — Jill Fitzpatrick. Not much, if anything. Then again, some of the juries running around out there these days could probably do with a little jury-rigging, perhaps a little money under the table for paying attention to the simple facts of the case. Between turning certain people loose in the face of mountains of evidence and fining other folks millions of dollars for lying on their job applications, juries are rather rapidly reaching a level of credibility formerly attained only by UFOlogists and mail-order psychics. In any case, the “jury-rig” (it is usually hyphenated) you’re asking about has nothing whatever to do with juries in the judicial sense. “Jury” was originally a naval term for any makeshift contrivance substituting for the real thing in an emergency, most commonly found in the term “jury-mast,” a temporary mast constructed in place of one that had been broken. There’s some debate about where the word “jury” in this sense came from, with the leading (but unverified) theory being that it was short for “injury.” To say that something is “jerryrigged” is to mix idioms a bit, because the proper term is “jerrybuilt.” A “jerrybuilder,” a term dating to 19th-century England, was originally a house builder who constructed flimsy homes from inferior materials. The “jerry” in the term may have been a real person known for the practice, or may be a mangled form of “jury,” as in “jury-rigged.” I tend to think that “jerrybuilt” arose separately from “jury-rig” simply because their senses are slightly different. Something that is “jury-rigged” is concocted on the spur of the moment to meet an emergency, but something “jerrybuilt” is deliberately constructed of inferior materials to turn a quick buck. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Jury/jerry rigging.
Here's the Wikipaedia definition of both terms. Jury rigging refers to makeshift repairs or temporary contrivances, made with only the tools and materials that happen to be on hand. Originally a nautical term, on sailing ships a jury rig is a replacement mast and yards improvised in case of damage or loss of the original mast. When more permanence is meant by the term, such a build may be referred to as jerry rigged. I don't like this new Google groups interface BTW! Dan -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Jury/jerry rigging.
On Feb 15, 2013, at 10:34 AM, Dan Stobbs autolycus.mercat...@gmail.com wrote: Here's the Wikipaedia definition of both terms. Jury rigging refers to makeshift repairs or temporary contrivances, made with only the tools and materials that happen to be on hand. Originally a nautical term, on sailing ships a jury rig is a replacement mast and yards improvised in case of damage or loss of the original mast. When more permanence is meant by the term, such a build may be referred to as jerry rigged. Got it! Jury Rigged == Duct Tape Jerry Rigged == Duct tape AND a hose clamp -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Jury/jerry rigging.
On Feb 15, 2013, at 10:34 AM, Dan Stobbs autolycus.mercat...@gmail.com wrote: Here's the Wikipaedia definition of both terms. Jury rigging refers to makeshift repairs or temporary contrivances, made with only the tools and materials that happen to be on hand. Originally a nautical term, on sailing ships a jury rig is a replacement mast and yards improvised in case of damage or loss of the original mast. When more permanence is meant by the term, such a build may be referred to as jerry rigged. On Feb 15, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Got it! Jury Rigged == Duct Tape Jerry Rigged == Duct tape AND a hose clamp I'm not sure I see the logic of these? I never heard the nautical reference at all, and don't see its etymology? I thought jury rigged was like a court jury that was rigged for an acquittal of the defendant. This is something risky because it's illegal and if it goes wrong it blows up in your face. This is a strategy of last resort that has high risk of failure, BUT if you get away with it, you walk away free (meaning fixed at no cost to you). I'd think this would be something like using JB Weld to repair a hole on the radiator of an old vehicle you rarely drive. If it works, it saves the cost of a new radiator that might cost more than the whole vehicle is worth, and could work for years years; but if it fails, it might leave you stranded inside a tunnel with bad air, 70mph traffic, and possible death. I thought jerry-rigged was a derogatory term from WWII referring to Germans as Jerrys? This would be in line with the even more derogatory racist term 'xx-rigged' that I won't mention here. I know that during periods of war the first thing the military does is try to dehumanize the enemy by inventing slang derogatory terminology so that the young soldiers don't think of the enemy as human beings. Below is a fairly comprehensive list these derogatory terms: http://gyral.blackshell.com/names.html I'm not British, and WWII isn't my generation, so I'm not certain how jerry-rigged would make logical sense? German's are known for being anal and over-engineering almost everything, so perhaps jerry-rigged would logically be a backhanded compliment for something that's unnecessarily over-fixed when a quick temporary fix would suffice? For example, a broken wooden dowel rod on a cheap disposable plastic 4th- of-July flag that you fix with a metal pipe duct-taped with three layers to the snapped rod. An overfix that wastes resources, something that only an idiot Jerry would do. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Jury/jerry rigging.
On Feb 15, 2013, at 12:55 PM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Feb 15, 2013, at 10:34 AM, Dan Stobbs autolycus.mercat...@gmail.com wrote: Here's the Wikipaedia definition of both terms. Jury rigging refers to makeshift repairs or temporary contrivances, made with only the tools and materials that happen to be on hand. Originally a nautical term, on sailing ships a jury rig is a replacement mast and yards improvised in case of damage or loss of the original mast. When more permanence is meant by the term, such a build may be referred to as jerry rigged. On Feb 15, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Got it! Jury Rigged == Duct Tape Jerry Rigged == Duct tape AND a hose clamp I'm not sure I see the logic of these? I never heard the nautical reference at all, and don't see its etymology? I thought jury rigged was like a court jury that was rigged for an acquittal of the defendant. This is something risky because it's illegal and if it goes wrong it blows up in your face. Well, Random House agrees with the nautical derivation of the term:http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.pperl?date=19960711 Jerry-rigged seems to be a mashup of 'Jerry-built' an English slang-term from the late 1800's meaning 'of shoddy construction' and jury-rig. http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/9245 None of this has anything to do with '12 good men and true' OR germans... -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
