Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why
belive me i can keep it whatever license it is in or i got... but if i begin to share even information of i am keeping it it becomes other story... so do what you can do but do not share with anyone motto :) licensing that kind of thing! :) 2010/11/2 glen glenst...@yahoo.com - Original Message From: Dan dantear...@gmail.com Raise your hand if you used the link instead of reading the email! ya right. Here's my hand. I did not see the article at the end of the email; did see the link and went directly to the article. Another click for the ad guys. I would have been more concerned of taking up too much wordage and wasted bandwidth when a link was all that was needed. But hey, you are right in defending copyright laws, though they are somewhat vague and untested. These days someone may end up in the county jail for jay walking. So are the times. Good call, --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- Baha Ata -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why
and without that sending for LEM... i do not even know there is a site about it... I visited the site because of that little article... Without that article i do not know the site... now i visited and bookmarked that site. 2010/11/2 glen glenst...@yahoo.com - Original Message From: Dan dantear...@gmail.com Raise your hand if you used the link instead of reading the email! ya right. Here's my hand. I did not see the article at the end of the email; did see the link and went directly to the article. Another click for the ad guys. I would have been more concerned of taking up too much wordage and wasted bandwidth when a link was all that was needed. But hey, you are right in defending copyright laws, though they are somewhat vague and untested. These days someone may end up in the county jail for jay walking. So are the times. Good call, --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- Baha Ata -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why
On Oct 31, 2010, at 2:48 PM, Tina K. wrote: On 2010/10/31 12:03, Dan so eloquently wrote: Nice fandom article with no real facts. *shrug* Sorry, no OS is a must have for me. Unless it's going to make me breakfast in the morning and then go to work for me while I shop, and clean my house while I sleep I can do just fine without it. Tina Tina, you must be related to my wife... Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:32 AM, Chance Reecher cha...@reecher.net wrote: At 10:15 PM 10/31/2010, Dan wrote: Mass-republishing without the ads has ripped them off I see it a different way. Exactly how many list members do you think would have seen the article had it not been re-posted to the list? The post had the link back to the original site, which could and most likely did generate traffic to it. AND potentially made LEM liable. If anyone is liable it's Google Groups and/or the OP. LEM itself had no direct involvement. And either way( or in any case, a fair use argument would be thrown at it. In the digital age we are all considered journalists . Online promotion not for profit is not a crime. It is an expectation. Social networks and hence the internet is rife with it. And as Barnum said there are two kinds of publicity, some and none . In the digital age hits are money in the bank of some sort. Well, there's my .02 on this relatively pathetic issue. Chance Hope it was as good for you as it was for everyone else !;) -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.youtube.com/fluxstringer http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://remnantsofthestorm.blogspot.com http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Oct 31, 10:15 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 4:59 PM -0700 10/31/2010, Al Poulin wrote: When the topic goes off onto another one, however interesting, shouldn't subject line change? On Oct 31, 2:03 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: But more importantly -- it is, um, inappropriate to re-post complete copyrighted works without the author's permission. Was such permission obtained? Nannies -- If permission was not obtained the pirated data should be deleted from our archive. Further dissemination of copyrighted material is sometimes inappropriate and illegal. But not in cases such as this. Three points: The article is attributed to the author and the publisher. The original web page invites Share This Article. The original web page provides an E-mail icon, a Print icon, and a PDF Version icon. It is quite common for publishers to provide mechanisms to let you make ONE OFF copies of an article for PERSONAL use. Doing so does not magically make their copyright protections vanish. ... Think about that. Are you saying that because a book is available in a Public Library that it's suddenly ok to steal the book from another source? In this case, the article was ***REPUBLISHED*** *IN FULL* BY THE POSTER to thousands of people. Beyond the copyright violation, there is a sleeze factor here. It was filched from a commercial web site, that depends on advertising dollars to survive. Mass-republishing without the ads has ripped them off AND potentially made LEM liable. http://www.ziffdavisenterprise.com/TermsofService.asp In particular, see sections 2.2 and 2.3. you may not modify, publish, transmit, (etc)_ - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why
At 10:32 PM -0400 10/31/2010, Chance Reecher wrote: At 10:15 PM 10/31/2010, Dan wrote: Mass-republishing without the ads has ripped them off I see it a different way. Exactly how many list members do you think would have seen the article had it not been re-posted to the list? Thousands, if the url was posted. Just the url. The post had the link back to the original site, which could and most likely did generate traffic to it. Raise your hand if you used the link instead of reading the email! ya right. AND potentially made LEM liable. If anyone is liable it's Google Groups and/or the OP. LEM itself had no direct involvement. Google is protected by their size and common carrier type status. LEM, no so well protected. Ziff could hit them with a take-down and lawsuit -- and it would cost LEM thousands of dollars to deal with it. At 11:38 AM + 11/1/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: And either way( or in any case, a fair use argument would be thrown at it. No. The one off personal copy is covered by Fair Use. Republishing a copyrighted work, in full, without the copyright holder's explicit permission is NOT Fair Use. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why
At that point, we are in a position that we cannot share a link! 2010/11/1 Dan dantear...@gmail.com At 10:32 PM -0400 10/31/2010, Chance Reecher wrote: At 10:15 PM 10/31/2010, Dan wrote: Mass-republishing without the ads has ripped them off I see it a different way. Exactly how many list members do you think would have seen the article had it not been re-posted to the list? Thousands, if the url was posted. Just the url. The post had the link back to the original site, which could and most likely did generate traffic to it. Raise your hand if you used the link instead of reading the email! ya right. AND potentially made LEM liable. If anyone is liable it's Google Groups and/or the OP. LEM itself had no direct involvement. Google is protected by their size and common carrier type status. LEM, no so well protected. Ziff could hit them with a take-down and lawsuit -- and it would cost LEM thousands of dollars to deal with it. At 11:38 AM + 11/1/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: And either way( or in any case, a fair use argument would be thrown at it. No. The one off personal copy is covered by Fair Use. Republishing a copyrighted work, in full, without the copyright holder's explicit permission is NOT Fair Use. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- Baha Ata -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why
At 9:14 PM +0200 11/1/2010, Baha Ata wrote: At that point, we are in a position that we cannot share a link! No, sharing a link, a pointer to the copyrighted content, is perfectly legit. You can even include some quoted excerpts from the article, under the Fair Use provisions. You just cannot republish the whole work (without permission)... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why
On Oct 31, 10:15 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: It is quite common for publishers to provide mechanisms to let you make ONE OFF copies of an article for PERSONAL use. Doing so does not magically make their copyright protections vanish. ... Think about that. Are you saying that because a book is available in a Public Library that it's suddenly ok to steal the book from another source? In this case, the article was ***REPUBLISHED*** *IN FULL* BY THE POSTER to thousands of people. Beyond the copyright violation, there is a sleeze factor here. It was filched from a commercial web site, that depends on advertising dollars to survive. Mass-republishing without the ads has ripped them off AND potentially made LEM liable. http://www.ziffdavisenterprise.com/TermsofService.asp In particular, see sections 2.2 and 2.3. you may not modify, publish, transmit, (etc)_ My bad, Dan is correct. Giving the reference URL and title of the item is the legal and acceptable method. Also, it reduces bandwidth on the list. There remains one question that begs resolution. I download an article as legally authorized. I cannot legally store it electronically. But, immediately and before I can delete it, Time Machine puts it away. Worse yet, innocent and clueless folks in major corporations download the same article, and it ends up stored in corporate servers. I do not think that the written law has caught up with such ramifications of evolving technology. So how does the written law get interpreted today? Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why
On 2010/11/01 02:51, Ted Treen so eloquently wrote: Tina, you must be related to my wife... If she is astonishingly brilliant and stunningly gorgeous than we just might be related. ;-) Seriously though, great minds think alike! Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why
At 12:55 PM -0700 11/1/2010, Al Poulin wrote: I download an article as legally authorized. I cannot legally store it electronically. If they licensed the copy to you (by explicitly permitting the download) then you CAN legally keep it. immediately and before I can delete it, Time Machine puts it away. [snip] So how does the written law get interpreted today? Yea, the exact status of the backup copy is untested in court, as far as I know. And therein lies the rub over much of the DMCA. So much of it is draconian BS. Those terms survive because they haven't been tested and the average consumer hasn't got the means, legal or financial, to do so. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why
- Original Message From: Dan dantear...@gmail.com Raise your hand if you used the link instead of reading the email! ya right. Here's my hand. I did not see the article at the end of the email; did see the link and went directly to the article. Another click for the ad guys. I would have been more concerned of taking up too much wordage and wasted bandwidth when a link was all that was needed. But hey, you are right in defending copyright laws, though they are somewhat vague and untested. These days someone may end up in the county jail for jay walking. So are the times. Good call, --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why
On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 12:55 -0700, Al Poulin wrote: On Oct 31, 10:15 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.ziffdavisenterprise.com/TermsofService.asp In particular, see sections 2.2 and 2.3. you may not modify, publish, transmit, (etc)_ My bad, Dan is correct. Giving the reference URL and title of the item is the legal and acceptable method. Also, it reduces bandwidth on the list. There remains one question that begs resolution. I download an article as legally authorized. I cannot legally store it electronically. Al, Don't worry about that. Section 2.3 explicitly gives you permission to download it for your personal, non-commercial use. Good day, Ralph -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Enterprise-Applications/Mac-OS-X-Lion-Is-a-MustHave-10 -Reasons-Why-776953/?kc=EWKNLEAU10262010STR3 Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why By: Don Reisinger http://www.eweek.com/cp/bio/Don-Reisinger/ 2010-10-21 *Table of Contents:* 1. Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Whyhttp://www.eweek.com/c/a/Enterprise-Applications/Mac-OS-X-Lion-Is-a-MustHave-10-Reasons-Why-776953/ 2. Apple Adds Innovation to Solid Mac OS X Foundationhttp://www.eweek.com/c/a/Enterprise-Applications/Mac-OS-X-Lion-Is-a-MustHave-10-Reasons-Why-776953/1/ *News Analysis: Mac OS X Lion won't be released until summer 2011. But the operating system is shaping up to be a must-have for enterprise customers and consumers.* ** *Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why* ( Page 1 of 2 ) Apple CEO Steve Jobs took the stage on Oct. 20http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eweek.com%2Fc%2Fa%2FMobile-and-Wireless%2FApples-MacBook-Air-Mac-OS-X-Owe-It-All-to-iPad-101989%2F%3Fkc%3Dsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNEjsoQiooa1xS-fnmMqk8CcZ3S37Ato discuss, among other things, Mac OS X 10.7 Lion. Although the software http://www.eweek.com/# won't be available until summer 2011 and there are still a slew of features that the company has yet to reveal, the items that Jobs did show off seem to have some promise. In fact, there is a real possibility that Mac OS X 10.7 Lion is going to be the best release of Apple's venerable operating system ever. It will combine elements that consumers already like with those features that they might not know they need yet. Plus, it will also offer a level of security that its chief competitor, Windows, has been unable to match. When the software finally launches, Lion could be the top option in the OS space. Read on to find out why:* * *1. The App Store * Mac OS X 10.7 Lion will include the Mac App Store. According to Apple, the App Store will be available to Snow Leopard customers within the next 90 days, but it will be a key component in Lion. That alone should make the operating system far more attractive to those who want to bring some of the iPad's functionality to their Macs. And according to Apple, that's more people than some might thinkhttp://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eweek.com%2Fc%2Fa%2FApple%2FLook-Out-Enterprise-Mac-OS-X-to-Get-Journaling%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNFO3o9TYdvDBin_BPgTU6j6KQ6tsw .* * *2. The multitouch component * Multitouch functionality will play a key role in Mac OS X 10.7 Lion. Granted, Snow Leopard already supports multitouch functionality on the trackpad. But Steve Jobs made it clear that Lion will double down on that implementation. That's a good thing for Mac customers, especially since Apple seems so focused on making multitouch a key component in its products going forward. Plus, it puts Microsoft's Windows platform on notice, since Windows 7's touch implementation isn't all that great.* * *3. The Launchpad looks great * A new feature, called Launchpad, could be quite important to those who plan to use the operating system's application storehttp://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eweek.com%2Fc%2Fa%2FDesktops-and-Notebooks%2FApple-Intros-MacBook-Air-Laptops-FaceTime-for-Macs-OS-X-Lion-461774%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNFPSuDAEZ_zC4c4eDSJflxDW5jHFg. The service will provide an iPad-like grid for downloaded applications. And upon choosing an app, users will pick up where they left off, rather than be forced to start anew as they would with regular desktophttp://www.eweek.com/#applications. Launchpad is yet another Lion feature that simply makes sense—and makes Windows look bad.* * *4. The software conundrum will be solved * The biggest issue with Mac OS X has always been that developers do not create as many programs for that operating system as they do for Windows. In the enterprise especially, few developers offer Mac OS X versions of their programs. But with the help of the App Store, all that could change. In one fell swoop, Apple could very well overcome Microsoft's lead in the software space. *5. The enterprise aspect * The corporate world has had difficulty over the years warming to Apple's operating system. However, Mac adoption is on the rise. Companies are looking for a simple, reliable http://www.eweek.com/# operating system to replace older versions of Windows XP or Windows Vista. Based on what Apple has shown so far, Lion could be that solution for some companies.* * *6. It sticks with what it knows * If nothing else, Apple knows what it's supposed to achieve with Mac OS Xhttp://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eweek.com%2Fc%2Fa%2FSecurity%2FFaceTime-for-Mac-Password-Security-Hole-Revealed-358443%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNEP7Xve0aGK-4KpVF9JRv4TsCw2Ng. It doesn't try to offer a slew of versions of the softwarehttp://www.eweek.com/#to appeal to enterprise customers in one case or consumers in another. It simply delivers an experience that's tailored to anyone. It's refreshing to see Apple follow
Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why
Title: Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why At 3:43 PM -0500 10/27/2010, Stephen Conrad wrote: http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Enterprise-Applications/Mac-OS-X-Lion-Is-a-MustHave-10 -Reasons-Why-776953/?kc=EWKNLEAU10262010STR3 Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why By: Don Reisinger 2010-10-21 [snip, the entire article] Nice fandom article with no real facts. *shrug* But more importantly -- it is, um, inappropriate to re-post complete copyrighted works without the author's permission. Was such permission obtained? Nannies -- If permission was not obtained the pirated data should be deleted from our archive. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why
On 2010/10/31 12:03, Dan so eloquently wrote: Nice fandom article with no real facts. *shrug* Sorry, no OS is a must have for me. Unless it's going to make me breakfast in the morning and then go to work for me while I shop, and clean my house while I sleep I can do just fine without it. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why
On Oct 31, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Tina K. wrote: Nice fandom article with no real facts. *shrug* Sorry, no OS is a must have for me. Unless it's going to make me breakfast in the morning and then go to work for me while I shop, and clean my house while I sleep I can do just fine without it. Agree, 100 percent. IF the new OS is not 100 percent compatible with the applications which I have already paid-for, then the new OS is of NO interest to me. Also, as I am already performing nearly 90 percent of all my applications on competitive hardware (OSx86), should that new OS also incorporate features which purport to eliminate compatibility with OSx86 hardware, then, again, that new OS is also of NO interest to me. An OS is just an interface ... from me to it. If it won't DO what I expect and require it to do, then it is of NO interest to me. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why
Number one reason to not get Lion Apple only likes Mac users when they keep buying new and on schedule. Their's ! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why
On Oct 31, 2010, at 2:48 PM, Tina K. wrote: On 2010/10/31 12:03, Dan so eloquently wrote: Nice fandom article with no real facts. *shrug* Sorry, no OS is a must have for me. Unless it's going to make me breakfast in the morning and then go to work for me while I shop, and clean my house while I sleep I can do just fine without it. Tina Amen-think i'll just continue to live in the shadows with Leopard. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why
At 4:59 PM -0700 10/31/2010, Al Poulin wrote: On Oct 31, 2:03 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: But more importantly -- it is, um, inappropriate to re-post complete copyrighted works without the author's permission. Was such permission obtained? Nannies -- If permission was not obtained the pirated data should be deleted from our archive. Further dissemination of copyrighted material is sometimes inappropriate and illegal. But not in cases such as this. Three points: The article is attributed to the author and the publisher. The original web page invites Share This Article. The original web page provides an E-mail icon, a Print icon, and a PDF Version icon. It is quite common for publishers to provide mechanisms to let you make ONE OFF copies of an article for PERSONAL use. Doing so does not magically make their copyright protections vanish. ... Think about that. Are you saying that because a book is available in a Public Library that it's suddenly ok to steal the book from another source? In this case, the article was ***REPUBLISHED*** *IN FULL* BY THE POSTER to thousands of people. Beyond the copyright violation, there is a sleeze factor here. It was filched from a commercial web site, that depends on advertising dollars to survive. Mass-republishing without the ads has ripped them off AND potentially made LEM liable. http://www.ziffdavisenterprise.com/TermsofService.asp In particular, see sections 2.2 and 2.3. you may not modify, publish, transmit, (etc)_ - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why
At 10:15 PM 10/31/2010, Dan wrote: Mass-republishing without the ads has ripped them off I see it a different way. Exactly how many list members do you think would have seen the article had it not been re-posted to the list? The post had the link back to the original site, which could and most likely did generate traffic to it. AND potentially made LEM liable. If anyone is liable it's Google Groups and/or the OP. LEM itself had no direct involvement. Well, there's my .02 on this relatively pathetic issue. Chance -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
