Re: Mail 2.1.3 vs iPhone 4s problem
On May 17, 2012, at 1:31 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: Just ran the cache clearing from OnyX with no change. This is from one that does not forward: --__CONTENT_64564_PART_BOUNDARY__33243242__ Content-Type: image/jpeg; name=IMG_8419.jpg Content-ID: 1 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=IMG_8419.jpg Content-Location: IMG_8419.jpg Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 This is from one that does. --__CONTENT_64564_PART_BOUNDARY__33243242__ Content-Type: image/jpeg; name=110923c.jpg Content-ID: 110923c.jpg Content-Location: 110923c.jpg Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 x-opwv-mms-forwardable: yes Well, I see the line that might make a difference: x-opwv-mms-forwardable: yes Goggling that comes up with only 6 hits, and none make much sense to me. Now, is that from the iPhone, a coincidental Verizon change or what, that is the question. And, is it the cause and can it be changed? Any x- mail header is a custom one, and any application that does not generate it, or know what to do with it explicitly, is supposed to ignore it; this is something Verizon added, I'll wager. Betcha some are coming from him connected to a wifi network and some are coming from Verizona network; the iPhone will glom onto any available wifi to do any data related stuff if it can. Bruce, I will take you up on a couple of iPad photos to my gmail address, let me know if you need it. On their way! Hope it works, my iPad is a Wifi only model. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mail 2.1.3 vs iPhone 4s problem
On May 18, 2012, at 1:38 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On May 17, 2012, at 1:31 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: Just ran the cache clearing from OnyX with no change. This is from one that does not forward: --__CONTENT_64564_PART_BOUNDARY__33243242__ Content-Type: image/jpeg; name=IMG_8419.jpg Content-ID: 1 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=IMG_8419.jpg Content-Location: IMG_8419.jpg Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 This is from one that does. --__CONTENT_64564_PART_BOUNDARY__33243242__ Content-Type: image/jpeg; name=110923c.jpg Content-ID: 110923c.jpg Content-Location: 110923c.jpg Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 x-opwv-mms-forwardable: yes Well, I see the line that might make a difference: x-opwv-mms-forwardable: yes Goggling that comes up with only 6 hits, and none make much sense to me. Now, is that from the iPhone, a coincidental Verizon change or what, that is the question. And, is it the cause and can it be changed? Any x- mail header is a custom one, and any application that does not generate it, or know what to do with it explicitly, is supposed to ignore it; this is something Verizon added, I'll wager. Betcha some are coming from him connected to a wifi network and some are coming from Verizona network; the iPhone will glom onto any available wifi to do any data related stuff if it can. Bruce, I will take you up on a couple of iPad photos to my gmail address, let me know if you need it. On their way! Hope it works, my iPad is a Wifi only model. -- Gorgeous photos, thanks. Makes me want to get back out to the desert for a another trip. They forwarded with no problems at all. I think I might have figured out the cause, but the solution without buying an app to batch photos may be beyond my abilities, unless I can jailbreak his phone and do low level programming. Looking at the raw source on all the photos that forward properly, the information in the Content-ID between the and is the same as the name and content location. All the photos from the iPhone ones that do not forward correctly have the same Content-ID 1. That is probably borking Mail somehow. Thanks again for the photos. Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mail 2.1.3 vs iPhone 4s problem
On May 18, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: They forwarded with no problems at all. I think I might have figured out the cause, but the solution without buying an app to batch photos may be beyond my abilities, unless I can jailbreak his phone and do low level programming. Looking at the raw source on all the photos that forward properly, the information in the Content-ID between the and is the same as the name and content location. All the photos from the iPhone ones that do not forward correctly have the same Content-ID 1. That is probably borking Mail somehow. If that's what is going on it's a bug in IOS, or something odd that Verizon is doing. My iPad is running the same version of IOS as he is, and this is being set by the email libs in IOS, so if it was something with the app, it should have happened to mine as well. Best to teach him how to send more than one photo at a time: Go to the Photos app, select either an album, your photo stream or the camera roll, and WITHOUT selecting a picture, click the 'out of box arrow' (damned if I know what the official name for it is...) tap on the photos you want to send, then tap share. Much easier than sending multiple emails! -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mail 2.1.3 vs iPhone 4s problem
On May 18, 2012, at 2:17 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On May 18, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: They forwarded with no problems at all. I think I might have figured out the cause, but the solution without buying an app to batch photos may be beyond my abilities, unless I can jailbreak his phone and do low level programming. Looking at the raw source on all the photos that forward properly, the information in the Content-ID between the and is the same as the name and content location. All the photos from the iPhone ones that do not forward correctly have the same Content-ID 1. That is probably borking Mail somehow. If that's what is going on it's a bug in IOS, or something odd that Verizon is doing. My iPad is running the same version of IOS as he is, and this is being set by the email libs in IOS, so if it was something with the app, it should have happened to mine as well. Best to teach him how to send more than one photo at a time: Go to the Photos app, select either an album, your photo stream or the camera roll, and WITHOUT selecting a picture, click the 'out of box arrow' (damned if I know what the official name for it is...) tap on the photos you want to send, then tap share. Much easier than sending multiple emails! Thanks for the iphone tip, I'll try it tonight. You know how it is, the big cheese gets all the cool toys, and those of us down in the trenches have to support them without the budget to have one to know how they work. Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mail 2.1.3 vs iPhone 4s problem
On May 18, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: Go to the Photos app, select either an album, your photo stream or the camera roll, and WITHOUT selecting a picture, click the 'out of box arrow' (damned if I know what the official name for it is...) tap on the photos you want to send, then tap share. Much easier than sending multiple emails! Thanks for the iphone tip, I'll try it tonight. You know how it is, the big cheese gets all the cool toys, and those of us down in the trenches have to support them without the budget to have one to know how they work. That, in fact, is how we all got iPads here...there was talk about the students all getting them and such and we put our feet down and said We can not support these unless we get some! -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mail 2.1.3 vs iPhone 4s problem
On May 16, 2012, at 3:39 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On May 16, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: Relevant Hardware/software: PowerMac G5 running 10.4.11 with Mail 2.1.3 iPhone 4s with latest updates. My brother got an iPhone 4s for business. Most of the reason he went with it is the camera. I am working on getting him to be able to batch send the pics, but for now he sends them as individual picture messages to my email. I then select all the emails, click forward to make them one email with 10 photos and forward that to the appropriate people. With his old, semi dumb phone, everything worked fine. Each photo was in the forwarded email at the proper size. With the iPhone, the first picture of the group that I select to forward is fine. The rest of the pictures are not in the email. Instead there is the proper size one of the first picture, then there are small thumbnails of the first picture equal in number to the number of pictures that were supposed to be forwarded. I have checked and all the photos coming from the iPhone do have separate names. But in the forwarded email it shows one large of the first photo, then the thumbnails of the same photo and they all have the same the same (ie: a large picture of img_2496 then 9 thumbnail size pics of the same image, all also names img_2496) Anyone seen this before or have any thoughts? Just tested this with my iMac (10.6) and iPad, Mail 4.5 does this as expected. deleted Bruce's raw view info You might want to look at the 'raw' view of one that works and one that doesn't. This persists through starting and stopping mail? Rebooting the Mac in safe mode to clear caches, or running Applejack? I can send you some pics from my iPad if you want, test whether it's something weird with his phone? Just ran the cache clearing from OnyX with no change. This is from one that does not forward: --__CONTENT_64564_PART_BOUNDARY__33243242__ Content-Type: image/jpeg; name=IMG_8419.jpg Content-ID: 1 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=IMG_8419.jpg Content-Location: IMG_8419.jpg Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 This is from one that does. --__CONTENT_64564_PART_BOUNDARY__33243242__ Content-Type: image/jpeg; name=110923c.jpg Content-ID: 110923c.jpg Content-Location: 110923c.jpg Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 x-opwv-mms-forwardable: yes Well, I see the line that might make a difference: x-opwv-mms-forwardable: yes Goggling that comes up with only 6 hits, and none make much sense to me. Now, is that from the iPhone, a coincidental Verizon change or what, that is the question. And, is it the cause and can it be changed? Bruce, I will take you up on a couple of iPad photos to my gmail address, let me know if you need it. Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Mail 2.1.3 vs iPhone 4s problem
Relevant Hardware/software: PowerMac G5 running 10.4.11 with Mail 2.1.3 iPhone 4s with latest updates. My brother got an iPhone 4s for business. Most of the reason he went with it is the camera. I am working on getting him to be able to batch send the pics, but for now he sends them as individual picture messages to my email. I then select all the emails, click forward to make them one email with 10 photos and forward that to the appropriate people. With his old, semi dumb phone, everything worked fine. Each photo was in the forwarded email at the proper size. With the iPhone, the first picture of the group that I select to forward is fine. The rest of the pictures are not in the email. Instead there is the proper size one of the first picture, then there are small thumbnails of the first picture equal in number to the number of pictures that were supposed to be forwarded. I have checked and all the photos coming from the iPhone do have separate names. But in the forwarded email it shows one large of the first photo, then the thumbnails of the same photo and they all have the same the same (ie: a large picture of img_2496 then 9 thumbnail size pics of the same image, all also names img_2496) Anyone seen this before or have any thoughts? Thanks, Len Gerstel -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mail 2.1.3 vs iPhone 4s problem
On May 16, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: Relevant Hardware/software: PowerMac G5 running 10.4.11 with Mail 2.1.3 iPhone 4s with latest updates. My brother got an iPhone 4s for business. Most of the reason he went with it is the camera. I am working on getting him to be able to batch send the pics, but for now he sends them as individual picture messages to my email. I then select all the emails, click forward to make them one email with 10 photos and forward that to the appropriate people. With his old, semi dumb phone, everything worked fine. Each photo was in the forwarded email at the proper size. With the iPhone, the first picture of the group that I select to forward is fine. The rest of the pictures are not in the email. Instead there is the proper size one of the first picture, then there are small thumbnails of the first picture equal in number to the number of pictures that were supposed to be forwarded. I have checked and all the photos coming from the iPhone do have separate names. But in the forwarded email it shows one large of the first photo, then the thumbnails of the same photo and they all have the same the same (ie: a large picture of img_2496 then 9 thumbnail size pics of the same image, all also names img_2496) Anyone seen this before or have any thoughts? Just tested this with my iMac (10.6) and iPad, Mail 4.5 does this as expected. The raw view of one of these picture emails is: --Apple-Mail-ED9D0DFE-B808-4870-A92C-A25F984D3B3F Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --Apple-Mail-ED9D0DFE-B808-4870-A92C-A25F984D3B3F Content-Disposition: inline; filename=Photo 0 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name=Photo 0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 /9j/4QKgRXhpZgAA... You might want to look at the 'raw' view of one that works and one that doesn't. This persists through starting and stopping mail? Rebooting the Mac in safe mode to clear caches, or running Applejack? I can send you some pics from my iPad if you want, test whether it's something weird with his phone? -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
