Re: Mouseball comes to life, keyboard dies

2011-08-10 Thread Tom
Just thought this was worth an update. Today, ten days after this
keyboard died under a big splash of water, and refused to work for
days afterward, I discovered that it has come back to life. I plugged
it into the Mac for a last check before I junked it, and to my
surprise found that it works as good as new.

I was going to throw the keyboard away after it got soaked by a
spilled glass of water and refused to work (typing on it produced
nothing when it was connected to the Mac), but Bruce above advised
hanging onto it for a while, in case it was still slowly drying out.
Well, I guess it was. When I set it aside I found one of those little
moisture-absorbing bags in a drawer, that probably came with a
packaged hard drive or something, and I tossed this bag on top of the
keyboard in case it might do any good. I don't have any idea whether
that little bag had anything to do with the revival--the keyboard is
so long and the bag so small that I really doubt it, but who knows?

Anyway, the lesson is: if your keyboard dies from getting wet, don't
give up on it. It might take ten days for it to dry out enough to come
back to life, but it certainly can!

Tom

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Re: Mouseball comes to life, keyboard dies

2011-08-01 Thread Tom
Thanks for the help, everybody. As per your advice I'll keep the dead
keyboard a while, hoping it dries out eventually, and test it from
time to time. I bought a new one for $50, but it never hurts to have a
spare.

Tom

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Re: Mouseball comes to life, keyboard dies

2011-07-31 Thread Charles Lenington

On 7/30/11 5:07 PM, TVirkkala wrote:

Would that early Apple ergonomics keyboard go through the dishwasher?

Do you take apart the keyboard, or leave it intact?
I just wrap cord around intact keyboard to keep it from tangling up in 
sprayer.


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Mouseball comes to life, keyboard dies

2011-07-30 Thread Tom
I think I just discovered something. I have a wired Apple mouse with
one of those little trackballs on the top, the kind that eventually
gets sticky and don't work. Well, the trackball on mine was typical:
it didn't work. Sometimes I could get pages to scroll down, but not
up. I did the usual things to try to fix it: dripped alcohol and other
cleaning fluids on the ball and turned the mouse upside down and
worked the ball around and around until dirty liquid seeped out and
then the ball sort of worked again, only to fail all over again after
a little while. I just gave up on it.

Well, my wife brought home one of those Magic Eraser things from Home
Depot. Sort of a small white sponge that you add a little water to and
then wipe dirt off things with. She gave it to me because I was
complaining about how dirty and grubby my keyboard was getting. Well,
this Magic Eraser really did clean up my keyboard. A couple of swipes
across each key and it was gleaming white just like new. (This is
starting to sound like a commercial, but it's not). Anyway, there was
the old mouse sitting there too so I wiped it down as well, and in the
process rolled the trackball around with the sponge some, and then
forgot about it.

The next time I used the mouse, the track ball worked much better,
though it was still a little sticky when scrolling up. I didn't pay
much attention to it. But whatever is in that Magic Eraser thing
wasn't done working, I guess, because now, a few days later, the
trackball works perfectly, left, right, up, and down. I wonder what's
in that eraser thing?

On the downside, I had a glass of water sitting next to my keyboard
(the very thin aluminum kind), and I bumped it over on the keyboard.
The water went all over the keys. Instantly I turned the board over
and set it on a towel, and tapped on it, hoping to drain out all the
water. Then I fired up a hair dryer and held the keyboard upside down
and dried the heck out of it. All to no avail. The keyboard is dead.
Tapping on keys gets no response whatever on the screen.

I can't figure out how to Magic Erase the inside of a keyboard,
assuming it would work. Does anyone know a way this dead keyboard
might be resuscitated?

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Re: Mouseball comes to life, keyboard dies

2011-07-30 Thread Charles Lenington

On 7/30/11 3:28 PM, Tom wrote:

I think I just discovered something. I have a wired Apple mouse with
one of those little trackballs on the top, the kind that eventually
gets sticky and don't work. Well, the trackball on mine was typical:
it didn't work. Sometimes I could get pages to scroll down, but not
up. I did the usual things to try to fix it: dripped alcohol and other
cleaning fluids on the ball and turned the mouse upside down and
worked the ball around and around until dirty liquid seeped out and
then the ball sort of worked again, only to fail all over again after
a little while. I just gave up on it.

Well, my wife brought home one of those Magic Eraser things from Home
Depot. Sort of a small white sponge that you add a little water to and
then wipe dirt off things with. She gave it to me because I was
complaining about how dirty and grubby my keyboard was getting. Well,
this Magic Eraser really did clean up my keyboard. A couple of swipes
across each key and it was gleaming white just like new. (This is
starting to sound like a commercial, but it's not). Anyway, there was
the old mouse sitting there too so I wiped it down as well, and in the
process rolled the trackball around with the sponge some, and then
forgot about it.

The next time I used the mouse, the track ball worked much better,
though it was still a little sticky when scrolling up. I didn't pay
much attention to it. But whatever is in that Magic Eraser thing
wasn't done working, I guess, because now, a few days later, the
trackball works perfectly, left, right, up, and down. I wonder what's
in that eraser thing?

On the downside, I had a glass of water sitting next to my keyboard
(the very thin aluminum kind), and I bumped it over on the keyboard.
The water went all over the keys. Instantly I turned the board over
and set it on a towel, and tapped on it, hoping to drain out all the
water. Then I fired up a hair dryer and held the keyboard upside down
and dried the heck out of it. All to no avail. The keyboard is dead.
Tapping on keys gets no response whatever on the screen.

I can't figure out how to Magic Erase the inside of a keyboard,
assuming it would work. Does anyone know a way this dead keyboard
might be resuscitated?

When I run keyboards thru the dishwasher I usually let them stand on one 
end (against wall, etc) 24-48 hours then flip other end up for same time.


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Re: Mouseball comes to life, keyboard dies

2011-07-30 Thread Bruce Johnson



On Jul 30, 2011, at 1:28 PM, Tom tba...@nmia.com wrote:

 On the downside, I had a glass of water sitting next to my keyboard
 (the very thin aluminum kind), and I bumped it over on the keyboard.
 The water went all over the keys. Instantly I turned the board over
 and set it on a towel, and tapped on it, hoping to drain out all the
 water. Then I fired up a hair dryer and held the keyboard upside down
 and dried the heck out of it. All to no avail. The keyboard is dead.
 Tapping on keys gets no response whatever on the screen

Let it dry for a few days before you give up on it. Those keyboards are glued 
together, so no taking them apart to clean.

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Re: Mouseball comes to life, keyboard dies

2011-07-30 Thread John V


On Jul 30, 2011, at 4:34 PM, Charles Lenington wrote:





When I run keyboards thru the dishwasher I usually let them stand  
on one end (against wall, etc) 24-48 hours then flip other end up  
for same time.



--DISHWASHER--  ???

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Re: Mouseball comes to life, keyboard dies

2011-07-30 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Jul 30, 2011, at 1:40 PM, John V wrote:

 
 On Jul 30, 2011, at 4:34 PM, Charles Lenington wrote:
 
 
 
 When I run keyboards thru the dishwasher I usually let them stand on one end 
 (against wall, etc) 24-48 hours then flip other end up for same time.
 
 
 --DISHWASHER--  ???

Yep, older keyboards are readily cleanable this way, top shelf, gentle cycle, 
no soap...
The current AL keyboards do not take to this treatment, though.

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Re: Mouseball comes to life, keyboard dies

2011-07-30 Thread TVirkkala

Would that early Apple ergonomics keyboard go through the dishwasher?

Do you take apart the keyboard, or leave it intact?

Timo V
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MacBook Pro 13 / Workgroup Server 9650 / Power Macintosh 6500 /
Power Macintosh 5500/Macintosh SE/30/Macintosh Classic





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Re: Mouseball comes to life, keyboard dies

2011-07-30 Thread Tina K.

On 2011/07/30 14:28, Tom wrote:

On the downside, I had a glass of water sitting next to my keyboard
(the very thin aluminum kind), and I bumped it over on the keyboard.
The water went all over the keys. Instantly I turned the board over
and set it on a towel, and tapped on it, hoping to drain out all the
water. Then I fired up a hair dryer and held the keyboard upside down
and dried the heck out of it. All to no avail. The keyboard is dead.
Tapping on keys gets no response whatever on the screen.

I can't figure out how to Magic Erase the inside of a keyboard,
assuming it would work. Does anyone know a way this dead keyboard
might be resuscitated?


You could try putting the kb in an airtight container along with a good 
amount of desiccant (dry rice, the packets included with some items for 
shipping) and leave it be for a good amount of time. This method has 
been used successfully with mobile phones.


Tina

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