Re: OS 9.2.2 fro G4 MDD
Il giorno 10-01-2012 17:00, Oliver Fairhall ha scritto: I currently have an ATI card, but have ordered a used TI 4600. Should be OK. I don't know if I have the latest drivers though. Nvidia don't seem to host these any more. I have been using a GF Ti 4600 on a G4 DA, and it worked just fine (both in OS9 and OSX 10.4). I seem to remember the driver in OSX 10.4 were already up to date, while I got somewhere the latest drivers for OS9. If you'd need them, I could find them in my archives. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 9.2.2 fro G4 MDD
On 1/10/12 10:00 AM, Oliver Fairhall wrote: On 10/01/12 02:21, t...@io.com wrote: snip--- I currently have an ATI card, but have ordered a used TI 4600. Should be OK. I don't know if I have the latest drivers though. Nvidia don't seem to host these any more. I found a shop which has a driver pack available: Didn't AMD buy up Nvidia? You might try there. -- The Website your boss doesn't want you to know about!http://www.sfi4.com/8770421/FREE -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 9.2.2 fro G4 MDD
On 10/01/12 02:21, t...@io.com wrote: I recommend that you search on this group for previous discussions. Will do, thanks. The retail install of 9.2.2 may also lack a few other components that the MDD needs and those were discussed a year or two ago in an earlier thread. There are a couple of sound extensions or CPs that the MDD needs. I guess I will be fine with the recovery disc OS directories though. I'm also going to be using PCI sound cards, not the logic board audio. I guess that should be OK. There's also an issue with QuickTime and older (the ones 9.2.2 installs) ATI drivers. If you have an NVidia card, then the QuickTime problem should not be an issue for you. If you have an ATI card, you need to find the latest ATI drivers for your card and OS 9.x, otherwise QuickTime will lock up the machine at boot time. I currently have an ATI card, but have ordered a used TI 4600. Should be OK. I don't know if I have the latest drivers though. Nvidia don't seem to host these any more. I found a shop which has a driver pack available: http://eshop.macsales.com/Tech/FTP/nvidia/nVidia3.5Drivers.sit I'm not sure if this driver even works at this stage. Will find out soon enough. Also just bought a dual 1.42GHz CPU module, 2GB RAM, and an SSD drive. I'm going to try running 10.5 on this in a dual boot set up. Don't really have a need, but though I'd give it a try anyway. Unfortunately, I also found that one of my RAM slots is broken. At least, the locking lever at one end is snapped. Not sure if there is damage to contacts yet. The machine froze up though. Removing that RAM stick, and resetting the logic board got it operating again. I hope I can get it working. Thanks again everyone. Oli -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 9.2.2 fro G4 MDD
On Jan 7, 11:18 am, Oliver Fairhall o.fairh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, Thanks for all th replies, information, and help. I'm just finding my way on this, and you have been a great help. I recommend that you search on this group for previous discussions. The installation at the link John provided will probably take care of your needs. The retail install of 9.2.2 may also lack a few other components that the MDD needs and those were discussed a year or two ago in an earlier thread. There are a couple of sound extensions or CPs that the MDD needs. There's also an issue with QuickTime and older (the ones 9.2.2 installs) ATI drivers. If you have an NVidia card, then the QuickTime problem should not be an issue for you. If you have an ATI card, you need to find the latest ATI drivers for your card and OS 9.x, otherwise QuickTime will lock up the machine at boot time. Jeff Walther -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 9.2.2 fro G4 MDD
Hi folks, Thanks for all th replies, information, and help. I'm just finding my way on this, and you have been a great help. On 06/01/12 22:22, John Carmonne wrote: You only need the OS ROM to make OS9.2.2 boot on your PM G4 MDD. If you have a working OS9.2.2 on any other machine just drag the system and application folder to the drive via TDM or other method and the drop in the ROM and you're good to go. No installation is nessesary. I can help you off list if you want. John Carmonne Thanks, that makes sense, and fits what I've read online. From the link posted in another reply, I think I should be fine to get things going now, without having to contact you off list. Thanks so much for the offer though. On 07/01/12 09:38, rtows...@aol.com wrote: Here's a link worth looking at for MDD 9.2.2 http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/macintosh-system-922-1021-power-macintosh-g4-mirro red-drive-doors-mdd HTH, BobT Cheers, very handy that. I hadn't managed to find that on my own. On 07/01/12 10:44, John Carmonne wrote: The MDD FW400 model uses a different Mac OS ROM for 9.2.2 that's why the install disks don't boot. So if you can get that ROM and put it in the system folder it will boot. TDM means Target Disk Mode. Using a Fire Wire cable hooked between two Macs you can mount the hard drive in your MDD to another already booted machine by holding down the t key while booting the MDD. Now you can drag the system and application folders to the MDD drive The Mac OS ROM you need is 10.2.1, Mac OS CPU Software 5.9 This only boots MDD FW 400's not FW800's it also will boot all Macs with OS9.2.2. It only came on the original install disks of the MDD machines hence the lack on retail installers. Sorry for the lack of info on the last post. :-) John Carmonne Great info, thanks! On 07/01/12 11:09, JoeTaxpayer wrote: I have a 1.25GHz MDD G4. It was the last OS9 - booting machine. I recall getting the 9.2.2 disc mailed to me as it came out after I bought my Mac. Why won't this disc work for you? I'm just going by the other info I have read online, and it seems from John's info that it is the ROM which is the issue here. I read that the retail OS 9.2.2 disk didn't come with that ROM. Not sure what version you were sent. On 07/01/12 11:31, Robert Towsley wrote: I misread when he said latest missed the not fw800. My mistake. Thx for correcting it. BobT It seems from Wikipedia and Apple support, that the last version of the MDD was the 2003 model, which was a FW400 with a 167MHz bus, which can boot into OS 9.2.2. This version appears to be a later model than the FW800. Thanks again everyone. Oli -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
OS 9.2.2 fro G4 MDD
Hi, I need to run OS 9.2.2 on a G4 Mirrored Drive Door (latest model, 167 MHz bus, not FW800). I don't have the original OS disks, and don't know what to look out for when finding a replacement. According to this page: http://lowendmac.com/ed/rosen/11ar/mdd-mac-os-9-install.html I need the original disks for my model. The OS 9.2.2 retail disk won't work. I've been looking around for a set of the original disks, but having trouble determining which one's would work for me. They seem to be labelled 'G4' but not specifically for my model. Any suggestions would be most welcome. I need to run software which will only operate in OS 9, and want to boot into it natively. Thanks for any help. Cheers, Oli -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 9.2.2 fro G4 MDD
On Jan 3, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Oliver Fairhall wrote: Hi, I need to run OS 9.2.2 on a G4 Mirrored Drive Door (latest model, 167 MHz bus, not FW800). I don't have the original OS disks, and don't know what to look out for when finding a replacement. According to this page: http://lowendmac.com/ed/rosen/11ar/mdd-mac-os-9-install.html I need the original disks for my model. The OS 9.2.2 retail disk won't work. I've been looking around for a set of the original disks, but having trouble determining which one's would work for me. They seem to be labelled 'G4' but not specifically for my model. Any suggestions would be most welcome. I need to run software which will only operate in OS 9, and want to boot into it natively. Thanks for any help. Cheers, Oli You only need the OS ROM to make OS9.2.2 boot on your PM G4 MDD. If you have a working OS9.2.2 on any other machine just drag the system and application folder to the drive via TDM or other method and the drop in the ROM and you're good to go. No installation is nessesary. I can help you off list if you want. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 9.2.2 fro G4 MDD
In a message dated 1/6/12 8:16:16 AM, o.fairh...@gmail.com writes: I need to run OS 9.2.2 on a G4 Mirrored Drive Door (latest model, 167 MHz bus, not FW800). I don't have the original OS disks, and don't know what to look out for when finding a replacement. According to this page: http://lowendmac.com/ed/rosen/11ar/mdd-mac-os-9-install.html I need the original disks for my model. The OS 9.2.2 retail disk won't work. I've been looking around for a set of the original disks, but having trouble determining which one's would work for me. They seem to be labelled 'G4' but not specifically for my model. Any suggestions would be most welcome. I need to run software which will only operate in OS 9, and want to boot into it natively. Believe that MDD will not boot to OS9.2.2 but will run it in Classic. Here's a link worth looking at for MDD 9.2.2 http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/macintosh-system-922-1021-power-macintosh-g4-mirrored-drive-doors-mdd HTH, BobT -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 9.2.2 fro G4 MDD
I moved a hard drive from a 233MHz G3 iMac into one of the extra hdd spots in my G4 MDD and was surprised that it booted MacOS9.2.2 on such a different computer. I don't understand your statement below when you write drop in the ROM and you're good to go. I can understand dragging the system folder to a different drive, if the drive has been prepped to be a boot device (don't know what TDM stands for), but can you explain what you mean when you say drop in the ROM? Thanks, David Dual booting MacOSX MorphOS2.7 on 1.5GHz G4 MacMini Dual 1.42GHz G4 MDD PowerMac, Dual booting MacOSX MorphOS3.0 beta on 15 17 1.67GHz G4 PowerBooks, Dual booting MacOSX Ubuntu PPC v10.10 on my Dual 2.7GHz G5 PowerMac On Jan 6, 2012, at 6:22 AM, John Carmonne wrote: You only need the OS ROM to make OS9.2.2 boot on your PM G4 MDD. If you have a working OS9.2.2 on any other machine just drag the system and application folder to the drive via TDM or other method and the drop in the ROM and you're good to go. No installation is nessesary. I can help you off list if you want. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 9.2.2 fro G4 MDD
On Jan 6, 2012, at 5:38 PM, rtows...@aol.com wrote: Believe that MDD will not boot to OS9.2.2 but will run it in Classic. Here's a link worth looking at for MDD 9.2.2 http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/macintosh-system-922-1021-power-macintosh-g4-mirrored-drive-doors-mdd HTH, BobT No, that is incorrect. The only MDD that won't boot into MacOS9.2.2 are the FireWire 800 models, which was the last models of the MDD that were made. My Dual 1.25GHz G4 PowerMac MDD, which I have upgraded to Dual 1.42GHz G4 CPU card can boot into MacOS9.2.2 just fine. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 9.2.2 fro G4 MDD
On Jan 6, 2012, at 5:14 PM, David W. Morris wrote: I moved a hard drive from a 233MHz G3 iMac into one of the extra hdd spots in my G4 MDD and was surprised that it booted MacOS9.2.2 on such a different computer. I don't understand your statement below when you write drop in the ROM and you're good to go. I can understand dragging the system folder to a different drive, if the drive has been prepped to be a boot device (don't know what TDM stands for), but can you explain what you mean when you say drop in the ROM? The MDD FW400 model uses a different Mac OS ROM for 9.2.2 that's why the install disks don't boot. So if you can get that ROM and put it in the system folder it will boot. TDM means Target Disk Mode. Using a Fire Wire cable hooked between two Macs you can mount the hard drive in your MDD to another already booted machine by holding down the t key while booting the MDD. Now you can drag the system and application folders to the MDD drive The Mac OS ROM you need is 10.2.1, Mac OS CPU Software 5.9 This only boots MDD FW 400's not FW800's it also will boot all Macs with OS9.2.2. It only came on the original install disks of the MDD machines hence the lack on retail installers. Sorry for the lack of info on the last post. :-) John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 9.2.2 fro G4 MDD
I have a 1.25GHz MDD G4. It was the last OS9 - booting machine. I recall getting the 9.2.2 disc mailed to me as it came out after I bought my Mac. Why won't this disc work for you? On Jan 3, 10:18 pm, Oliver Fairhall o.fairh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I need to run OS 9.2.2 on a G4 Mirrored Drive Door (latest model, 167 MHz bus, not FW800). I don't have the original OS disks, and don't know what to look out for when finding a replacement. According to this page: http://lowendmac.com/ed/rosen/11ar/mdd-mac-os-9-install.html I need the original disks for my model. The OS 9.2.2 retail disk won't work. I've been looking around for a set of the original disks, but having trouble determining which one's would work for me. They seem to be labelled 'G4' but not specifically for my model. Any suggestions would be most welcome. I need to run software which will only operate in OS 9, and want to boot into it natively. Thanks for any help. Cheers, Oli -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 9.2.2 fro G4 MDD
On 1/6/12 9:18 PM, David W. Morris wrote: On Jan 6, 2012, at 5:38 PM, rtows...@aol.com mailto:rtows...@aol.com wrote: Believe that MDD will not boot to OS9.2.2 but will run it in Classic. Here's a link worth looking at for MDD 9.2.2 http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/macintosh-system-922-1021-power-macintosh-g4-mirrored-drive-doors-mdd HTH, BobT No, that is incorrect. The only MDD that won't boot into MacOS9.2.2 are the FireWire 800 models, which was the last models of the MDD that were made. My Dual 1.25GHz G4 PowerMac MDD, which I have upgraded to Dual 1.42GHz G4 CPU card can boot into MacOS9.2.2 just fine. I misread when he said latest missed the not fw800. My mistake. Thx for correcting it. BobT -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
