Re: Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)?

2011-06-09 Thread Brielle Bruns

On 6/8/11 1:28 PM, John Callahan wrote:

Thanks. It's fixed. It was the screen saver. Turned it of and---
voila---, works like a charm.


This used to be a major problem on the Windows side of things in the 
95/98 days from my own experiences.  Alot of it had to do with either 
crappy video cards, damaged video cards, or horrible DirectX/OpenGL drivers.




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Re: Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)?

2011-06-08 Thread John Callahan
Thanks. It's fixed. It was the screen saver. Turned it of and---  
voila---, works like a charm.

On Jun 6, 2011, at 11:39 PM, stevo137 wrote:


I had that same problem. I was told to check your memory cards.

On Jun 5, 12:05 pm, John Callahan  wrote:

My G4 works flawlessly while I am using it but if I leave it running
it freezes and a message comes up that says "you need to restart your
computer". Anyone have any idea of what's wrong?
Thank you


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Re: Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)?

2011-06-06 Thread stevo137
I had that same problem. I was told to check your memory cards.

On Jun 5, 12:05 pm, John Callahan  wrote:
> My G4 works flawlessly while I am using it but if I leave it running  
> it freezes and a message comes up that says "you need to restart your  
> computer". Anyone have any idea of what's wrong?
> Thank you

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Re: Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)?

2011-06-06 Thread Ted Treen





>
>From: Dan 
>To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
>Sent: Sunday, 5 June 2011, 19:22
>Subject: Re: Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)?
>
>At 1:05 PM -0400 6/5/2011, John Callahan wrote:
>> My G4 works flawlessly while I am using it but if I leave it running it 
>> freezes and a message comes up that says "you need to restart your 
>> computer". Anyone have any idea of what's wrong?
>
>That's a kernel panic.  Check the system.log and panic log files to see 
>exactly what died.
>
>Have you made any hardware changes to your system recently?
>
>Do you have any tasks that explicitly run when you're idle?
>
>- Dan.
>-- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth.
>
>-
>A common problem with G4 systems is sleep - when a USB2 card is fitted.
>
>Have you by any chance got a USB2 card in there?
>
>Ted
>

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Re: Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)?

2011-06-05 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 6-06-2011 4:37, John Callahan ha scritto:

> I have disabled sleep and that seems to have solved the problem. I
> think the video card may be going.
IMHO, it's not the card.
If the card would be failing, that would manifest while working, not while
"sleeping".

It could be an incompatibility between the sleep mode and some hardware
component (I know some SCSI card, for example, could show this issue).

> Care to recommend a good video  card?
If your video card is the original one (Ati Rage 128/pro), any AGP card
(save the ones specific for G5s) would be ok...
and way better than yours. ;-)

If you really want to change the card, you could check within this mailing
list: http://lowendmac.com/lists/swap.html
dedicated to buying & selling Mac stuff.

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Re: Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)?

2011-06-05 Thread Brielle Bruns

On 6/5/11 8:37 PM, John Callahan wrote:


On Jun 5, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Brielle Bruns wrote:


If I had to venture a guess... Turn off the screen saver and see if it
stops locking up.A lot of the OSX screen savers use opengl - and if
there's a problem with the graphics card, it could tickle it in the
wrong way.





I have disabled sleep and that seems to have solved the problem. I think
the video card may be going. Care to recommend a good video card? Thanks
so much for your interest and help.



What's the current card that's in there?  According to Mactracker, its a 
Rage 128 or 128 Pro.  You should be able to confirm that through the 
system profiler.






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Re: Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)?

2011-06-05 Thread John Callahan


On Jun 5, 2011, at 1:47 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote:


Il giorno 5-06-2011 19:05, John Callahan ha scritto:


My G4 works flawlessly while I am using it but if I leave it running
it freezes


Does it feel lonely...? ;-D

(sorry, I couldn't resist ;-)



I have disabled sleep and that seems to have solved the problem. I  
think the video card may be going. Care to recommend a good video  
card? Thanks so much for your interest and help.


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Re: Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)?

2011-06-05 Thread John Callahan


On Jun 5, 2011, at 2:22 PM, Dan wrote:


At 1:05 PM -0400 6/5/2011, John Callahan wrote:
My G4 works flawlessly while I am using it but if I leave it  
running it freezes and a message comes up that says "you need to  
restart your computer". Anyone have any idea of what's wrong?


That's a kernel panic.  Check the system.log and panic log files to  
see exactly what died.



I have disabled sleep and that seems to have solved the problem. I  
think the video card may be going. Care to recommend a good video  
card? Thanks so much for your interest and help.


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Re: Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)?

2011-06-05 Thread John Callahan


On Jun 5, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Brielle Bruns wrote:

If I had to venture a guess...   Turn off the screen saver and see  
if it stops locking up.  A lot of the OSX screen savers use opengl  
- and if there's a problem with the graphics card, it could tickle  
it in the wrong way.






I have disabled sleep and that seems to have solved the problem. I  
think the video card may be going. Care to recommend a good video  
card? Thanks so much for your interest and help.


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Re: Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)?

2011-06-05 Thread John Callahan


That's a kernel panic.  Check the system.log and panic log files to  
see exactly what died.


Have you made any hardware changes to your system recently?

Do you have any tasks that explicitly run when you're idle?

- Dan.


 System Log says as follows:
Mac OS X Version 10.4.11 (Build 85165)
2011-06-05 14:48:16   -0400
2011-06-05 14:48:19.924  SystemUIServer[79]  lang  is:en

PCI card  -1799.2

USB  - Keyboard and Kensington Mouse

Firewire in target mode to iMac   400 Mb/sec

Networking is Automatic  Under PPP - LCP Echo failure 4

No tasks when idle.

No hardware changes.


DirectoryService.error.log  -Network transition in LDAPv3 plugin  
returned error  -14279


Thanks for your help

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Re: Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)?

2011-06-05 Thread Brielle Bruns
If I had to venture a guess...   Turn off the screen saver and see if it stops 
locking up.  A lot of the OSX screen savers use opengl - and if there's a 
problem with the graphics card, it could tickle it in the wrong way. 



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Subject: Re: Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)?

At 1:05 PM -0400 6/5/2011, John Callahan wrote:
>My G4 works flawlessly while I am using it but if I leave it running 
>it freezes and a message comes up that says "you need to restart 
>your computer". Anyone have any idea of what's wrong?

That's a kernel panic.  Check the system.log and panic log files to 
see exactly what died.

Have you made any hardware changes to your system recently?

Do you have any tasks that explicitly run when you're idle?

- Dan.
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Re: Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)?

2011-06-05 Thread John Callahan


On Jun 5, 2011, at 1:47 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote:


Il giorno 5-06-2011 19:05, John Callahan ha scritto:


My G4 works flawlessly while I am using it but if I leave it running
it freezes


Does it feel lonely...? ;-D

(sorry, I couldn't resist ;-)



Log says as follows:
Mac OS X Version 10.4.11 (Build 85165)
2011-06-05 14:48:16   -0400
2011-06-05 14:48:19.924  SystemUIServer[79]  lang  is:en

PCI card  -1799.2

USB  - Keyboard and Kensington Mouse

Firewire in target mode to iMac   400 Mb/sec

Networking is Automatic  Under PPP - LCP Echo failure 4

Thanks for your help

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Re: Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)?

2011-06-05 Thread Dan

At 1:05 PM -0400 6/5/2011, John Callahan wrote:
My G4 works flawlessly while I am using it but if I leave it running 
it freezes and a message comes up that says "you need to restart 
your computer". Anyone have any idea of what's wrong?


That's a kernel panic.  Check the system.log and panic log files to 
see exactly what died.


Have you made any hardware changes to your system recently?

Do you have any tasks that explicitly run when you're idle?

- Dan.
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Re: Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)?

2011-06-05 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 5-06-2011 19:05, John Callahan ha scritto:

> My G4 works flawlessly while I am using it but if I leave it running
> it freezes

Does it feel lonely...? ;-D

(sorry, I couldn't resist ;-)


Back to serious, you can probably find some hints in the log files
(they should record the issues), but I can't rememeber how accessing them.

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Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)?

2011-06-05 Thread John Callahan
My G4 works flawlessly while I am using it but if I leave it running  
it freezes and a message comes up that says "you need to restart your  
computer". Anyone have any idea of what's wrong?

Thank you

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Re: Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)

2011-05-09 Thread JoeTaxpayer
I found the same cycle with PATA hard drives.  500MB for $75 but 2TB
SATA for $80. So I picked up a SATA PCI cards for my G4 MDDs.

Asking - will they drive optical drives as well? When optical PATA
goes away, that may become the only option.

On May 9, 3:54 pm, "t...@io.com"  wrote:
> PATA DVDRW drives are getting hard to find.  

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Re: Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)

2011-05-09 Thread t...@io.com


On May 9, 8:38 am, Bruce Johnson  wrote:
> On May 3, 2011, at 8:44 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote:
>
> > I have one too and want to get a DVD drive (superdrive) so
> > I can make dvd movies, what do I need? I have the 512 Mb
> > 10.4/10.5. Do I require more memory to cut a dvd? What
> > superdrive do you think would be good and where and cost.
>
> Any ATA DVD +/- R/RW will work, even dual layer ones, in
> 10.4 you may need to use Patchburn to get the OS to recognize it fully.
>
> Get it from the usual sources: Geeks.com,. newegg.com, Frys
> electronics (online or in person if there's one nearby), etc.

PATA DVDRW drives are getting hard to find.  They're not gone yet, but
they almost are.  Newegg still had an LG or Samsung model for about
$22 a week ago or so.   It's been on sale twice in the last three
weeks, so I suspect they're trying to clear inventory.

If you want a Pioneer DVR-118LBK (last of the Pioneer brand PATA
DVDRW) drives), the cheapest source I've found is  at about
$30.  Most other places are either out of stock or want well over $50
for them.

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Re: Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)

2011-05-09 Thread Bruce Johnson

On May 3, 2011, at 8:44 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote:

> I have one too and want to get a DVD drive (superdrive) so I can make dvd 
> movies, what do I need? I have the 512 Mb 10.4/10.5. Do I require more memory 
> to cut a dvd? What superdrive do you think would be good and where and cost.

Any ATA DVD +/- R/RW will work, even dual layer ones, in 10.4 you may need to 
use Patchburn to get the OS to recognize it fully.

Get it from the usual sources: Geeks.com,. newegg.com, Frys electronics (online 
or in person if there's one nearby), etc.

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Re: Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)

2011-05-09 Thread Jonas Lopez
I have one too and want to get a DVD drive (superdrive) so I can make dvd 
movies, what do I need? I have the 512 Mb 10.4/10.5. Do I require more memory 
to cut a dvd? What superdrive do you think would be good and where and cost.

Thanks JML

--- On Tue, 5/3/11, Sean Carroll  wrote:

From: Sean Carroll 
Subject: Re: Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 3, 2011, 6:54 PM

> I have a Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics) with 512 MB. It is in good shape and 
> runs faultlessly. Is it worth while to upgrade the memory to 2.0 GB 
> considering the age of the machine and it's resale value?

Yes.

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Re: Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)

2011-05-04 Thread Alexander Gomes
I agree with Joe. I'd do it.
On May 3, 2011 8:12 PM, "JoeTaxpayer"  wrote:
> I think the extra $100 (from the $75 you'd pay for memory alone) will
> get you the Dual 1.25GHz. 5X the power. Do it.
>
> On May 3, 8:13 pm, John Callahan  wrote:
>> Thanks for your response. Mactracker says the AGP will accept 2 GB of
>> ram and this is the 500 MHZ model and I am running Tiger on it. It
>> also has a four port USB 2.0 card in it. What do you think?
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Re: Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)

2011-05-03 Thread Sean Carroll
I have a Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics) with 512 MB. It is in good  
shape and runs faultlessly. Is it worth while to upgrade the memory  
to 2.0 GB considering the age of the machine and it's resale value?


Yes.

Sean Carroll
slcarr...@me.com

Power Mac G4 AGP "Sawtooth" 1.0 GHz, 2 GB RAM, SATA 750 GB hard drive,  
gigabit ethernet & USB 2.0 & FW800, ATI Radeon 9800

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Re: Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)

2011-05-03 Thread JoeTaxpayer
I think the extra $100 (from the $75 you'd pay for memory alone) will
get you the Dual 1.25GHz. 5X the power. Do it.

On May 3, 8:13 pm, John Callahan  wrote:
> Thanks for your response. Mactracker says the AGP will accept 2 GB of  
> ram and this is the 500 MHZ model and I am running Tiger on it. It  
> also has a four port USB 2.0 card in it. What do you think?

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Re: Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)

2011-05-03 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 3-05-2011 21:51, John Callahan ha scritto:

> I have a Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics) with 512 MB. It is in good shape
> and runs faultlessly. Is it worth while to upgrade the memory to 2.0
> GB considering the age of the machine and it's resale value?
I don't think so, in market value, since I doubt you could get much money
from it. Even with 2GB Ram, it's really obsolete.

If you like that machine and would like to "pump it up", though, you might
add 512MB.
I have a 667 G4 Digital Audio (upgraded with an 1.4GHz CPU) with 1GB (and
OSX 10.4), and 1GB memory is enough for most applications (I work in DTP
with Indesign and Photoshop CS3).
If you really need more than 1GB (like, working on huge images in PS), then
what you really need is a faster machine, not just more Ram. :-)

2GB: Unless you get the memory really cheap, as someone else here said,
instead than buying 2GB you'd better spend that money for a newer Mac (the
MDD is a fine computer, although old - beware of noisy fan, though: the MDD
was aptly named "wind tunnel" ;-).

As I love to say: it all depends on what you do with your Mac.


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Re: Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)

2011-05-03 Thread John Callahan
Thanks for your response. Mactracker says the AGP will accept 2 GB of  
ram and this is the 500 MHZ model and I am running Tiger on it. It  
also has a four port USB 2.0 card in it. What do you think?

Thanks
On May 3, 2011, at 5:25 PM, JoeTaxpayer wrote:


On May 3, 3:51 pm, John Callahan  wrote:

I have a Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics) with 512 MB. It is in good shape
and runs faultlessly. Is it worth while to upgrade the memory to 2.0
GB considering the age of the machine and it's resale value?
Thank you


This is the 350-500MHz machine? Single core? I'd pass. Memory is about
$25/512M. I'd put the $75 toward a Dual Core MDD, 1GHz or 1.25.
Last one of these I bought had 2GB memory built in, and was under
$200. I see this model (@1.25GHz) for $180 with free shipping. I don't
want to sound like a broken record, but this machine runs Leopard and
is the sweet spot for price/performance. It only shows its age when
doing a video encode, all else is great. (Oh, you must add a USB 2.0
card. that's about it)

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Re: Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)

2011-05-03 Thread JoeTaxpayer
On May 3, 3:51 pm, John Callahan  wrote:
> I have a Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics) with 512 MB. It is in good shape  
> and runs faultlessly. Is it worth while to upgrade the memory to 2.0  
> GB considering the age of the machine and it's resale value?
> Thank you

This is the 350-500MHz machine? Single core? I'd pass. Memory is about
$25/512M. I'd put the $75 toward a Dual Core MDD, 1GHz or 1.25.
Last one of these I bought had 2GB memory built in, and was under
$200. I see this model (@1.25GHz) for $180 with free shipping. I don't
want to sound like a broken record, but this machine runs Leopard and
is the sweet spot for price/performance. It only shows its age when
doing a video encode, all else is great. (Oh, you must add a USB 2.0
card. that's about it)

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Re: Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)

2011-05-03 Thread Ken Daggett


On 3 May 2011, at 12:51:23 PDT, John Callahan wrote:

I have a Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics) with 512 MB. It is in good  
shape and runs faultlessly. Is it worth while to upgrade the memory  
to 2.0 GB considering the age of the machine and it's resale value?

Thank you


What doesn't it do that you want it to do with the current RAM?

Ken

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Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)

2011-05-03 Thread John Callahan
I have a Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics) with 512 MB. It is in good shape  
and runs faultlessly. Is it worth while to upgrade the memory to 2.0  
GB considering the age of the machine and it's resale value?

Thank you

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