Re: Safari 4.1.3 for Tiger: Fast, but Not Perfect
I am using tenfourfox and it's pretty good. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 16, 2011, at 0:07, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: I'm rather disappointed with Charles Moore's latest article (yesterday) on LEM. http://lowendmac.com/misc/11mr/safari-4.1.3-for-tiger.html Safari 4.1.3 for Tiger: Fast, but Not Perfect Charles Moore - 2011.03.15 Apple takes a lot of stick from users of older Mac hardware for dropping support for their machines from later versions of the Mac OS - and for older Mac OS versions from the latest software. Well deserved stick, IMO. [snip] However, I want to salute Apple for just releasing one more update of its Safari browser for OS X 10.4 users. Version 10.4 is not supported by the current Safari (version 5), but along with the latest Safari 5 security update release, Apple also issued a Safari 4.1.3 update for us holdout Tiger users, and it seems to be a very decent browser - possibly the best left among the diminishing handful of up-to-date browsers that still support OS X 10.4. Folx, can you please double check me on the version of Safari? AFAIK, Apple has left us Tiger users with our pants hanging open - there just is no corresponding security update for Tiger, to go with the 9 March 2011 release of Safari 5.0.4. Safari 5.0.4 update: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1070 and it references Safari 4.1.3 for Tiger, dated 18 November 2010. http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1069 [snip] until I noticed that there was a lot of hard drive activity going on in the background even when I wasn't doing anything. I tried closing tabs. Still no joy. However, quitting Safari 4.1.3 ended the background busy-work Starting up Safari caused it to resume. Bummer, that doesn't happen with Opera, OmniWeb, or SeaMonkey, all of which I use regularly on the Pismo. This has been covered on the LEM lists repeatedly, I believe. Safari is updating the Top Sites its site preview images. If you turn off the Top Sites, that background traffic goes away. [snip] the need to use an installer and restart the machine after installation instead of just dragging the application into the Applications Folder Again, covered on the lists: Safari is NOT a self contained app. It is an app plus a bunch of shared frameworks (WebKit, et al). The only way to complete the installation of those frameworks is to make everything accessing them - other apps and system components - let go, which is most cleanly done with a reboot. Now, if you want, I'm sure Apple could provide a stand-alone version of Safari. Then you can deal with all the wasted memory from having non-shared sharable libraries. FWIW, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Safari 4.1.3 for Tiger: Fast, but Not Perfect
I'm rather disappointed with Charles Moore's latest article (yesterday) on LEM. http://lowendmac.com/misc/11mr/safari-4.1.3-for-tiger.html Safari 4.1.3 for Tiger: Fast, but Not Perfect Charles Moore - 2011.03.15 Apple takes a lot of stick from users of older Mac hardware for dropping support for their machines from later versions of the Mac OS - and for older Mac OS versions from the latest software. Well deserved stick, IMO. [snip] However, I want to salute Apple for just releasing one more update of its Safari browser for OS X 10.4 users. Version 10.4 is not supported by the current Safari (version 5), but along with the latest Safari 5 security update release, Apple also issued a Safari 4.1.3 update for us holdout Tiger users, and it seems to be a very decent browser - possibly the best left among the diminishing handful of up-to-date browsers that still support OS X 10.4. Folx, can you please double check me on the version of Safari? AFAIK, Apple has left us Tiger users with our pants hanging open - there just is no corresponding security update for Tiger, to go with the 9 March 2011 release of Safari 5.0.4. Safari 5.0.4 update: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1070 and it references Safari 4.1.3 for Tiger, dated 18 November 2010. http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1069 [snip] until I noticed that there was a lot of hard drive activity going on in the background even when I wasn't doing anything. I tried closing tabs. Still no joy. However, quitting Safari 4.1.3 ended the background busy-work Starting up Safari caused it to resume. Bummer, that doesn't happen with Opera, OmniWeb, or SeaMonkey, all of which I use regularly on the Pismo. This has been covered on the LEM lists repeatedly, I believe. Safari is updating the Top Sites its site preview images. If you turn off the Top Sites, that background traffic goes away. [snip] the need to use an installer and restart the machine after installation instead of just dragging the application into the Applications Folder Again, covered on the lists: Safari is NOT a self contained app. It is an app plus a bunch of shared frameworks (WebKit, et al). The only way to complete the installation of those frameworks is to make everything accessing them - other apps and system components - let go, which is most cleanly done with a reboot. Now, if you want, I'm sure Apple could provide a stand-alone version of Safari. Then you can deal with all the wasted memory from having non-shared sharable libraries. FWIW, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Safari 4.1.3 for Tiger: Fast, but Not Perfect
Folx, can you please double check me on the version of Safari? Well, I with Safari 4.1.3 just ran Software Update and was only told (as usual) that all my software appears to be up to date. Sean Carroll slcarr...@me.com Power Mac G4 AGP Sawtooth 1.0 GHz, 2 GB RAM, 1 each SATA (750 GB) PATA (160 GB) hard drives, gigabit ethernet USB 2.0, ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, Mac OS X Tiger 10.4.11 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
