Re: VERY good hint today at MacOS X Hints
It was also mentioned at MacOS X Hints that a usb drive can be used as a install destination if the partition or volume is GUID by Disk Utility. That option doesn't appear in my attempts to GUI a partition. I'm in OS X3.9 Any advice is welcome. Thanks, Roman -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: VERY good hint today at MacOS X Hints
On Jan 28, 2010, at 3:30 AM, roman...@ideal-access.com wrote: It was also mentioned at MacOS X Hints that a usb drive can be used as a install destination if the partition or volume is GUID by Disk Utility. That option doesn't appear in my attempts to GUI a partition. I'm in OS X3.9 Any advice is welcome. Thanks, Roman GUID is the partition format necessary for an Intel-based Mac to boot from. This format wasn't iuntroduced in Disk Utility until late 10.4. In fact it won't work on a PPC mac, you need to format it as a Apple Partition Map partition. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: VERY good hint today at MacOS X Hints
format it as an Apple Partition Map partition. Thank you Bruce, My partition options appear to be: Mac OS Extended (Journaled) Mac OS Extended Mac OS Standard Unix File System and Free Space I have been using Extended and Journaled. The only option choice I see is under the erase tab, and that's for zeroing etc. Should I use a different version of Disk Utility? I'm using version 10.4.4, thanks, Roman It was also mentioned at MacOS X Hints that a usb drive can be... GUID is the partition format necessary for an Intel-based Mac to boot from. This format wasn't iuntroduced in Disk Utility until late 10.4. In fact it won't work on a PPC mac, you need to format it as a Apple Partition Map partition. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: VERY good hint today at MacOS X Hints
On Jan 28, 2010, at 12:00 PM, roman...@ideal-access.com wrote: My partition options appear to be: Mac OS Extended (Journaled) Mac OS Extended Mac OS Standard Unix File System and Free Space I have been using Extended and Journaled. The only option choice I see is under the erase tab, and that's for zeroing etc. Should I use a different version of Disk Utility? I'm using version 10.4.4, thanks, Roman Those are not partition schemes, but directory formatting schemes. Start Disk Utility and select the Drive, not the Volume on the left..the drive will be names something like 233GB Maxtor... and the Volume will be whatever your disk is called in the finder. Click on the Partition tab in Disk Utility, then select a Volume Scheme from the drop-down menu, (away from Current). Then you can click the Options button below. In 10.5 I'm given a choice of GUID, Apple Partition Map and Master Boot Record. I forget what's in 10.4. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: VERY good hint today at MacOS X Hints
I found Apple_partition_scheme, thanks. Disk Utility automatically uses the scheme without an option choice. It's under the Info icon above the tool bar. Regards, Roman Bruce Johnson wrote: In 10.5 I'm given a choice of GUID, Apple Partition Map and Master Boot Record. I forget what's in 10.4. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: VERY good hint today at MacOS X Hints
On Jan 28, 2010, at 11:00 AM, roman...@ideal-access.com wrote: format it as an Apple Partition Map partition. Thank you Bruce, My partition options appear to be: Mac OS Extended (Journaled) Mac OS Extended Mac OS Standard Unix File System and Free Space I have been using Extended and Journaled. The only option choice I see is under the erase tab, and that's for zeroing etc. Should I use a different version of Disk Utility? I'm using version 10.4.4, thanks, Roman There are two types of Format if you will. The list above is the volume format. Apple Partition Map and GUID refer to a partition format or the partitioning scheme. The partition format affects the entire disk and is achieved using the Partition tab in Disk Utility. The volume format is selected within a given partition format. The partition format affects the entire physical disk. The volume format affects what appears as a disk on the desktop. Thus a given physical disk can have an Apple Partition Map, GUID, or others and within that disk it can have one or more volumes that are formated with Mac OS Extended, Mac OS Standard, Unix (ext3, etc), FAT (16 or 32), whatever the windows format is called or others. Clark Martin Redwood City, California Macintosh / Internet Consulting / Railfan I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: VERY good hint today at MacOS X Hints
On Jan 28, 2010, at 10:50 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: In fact it won't work on a PPC mac, you need to format it as a Apple Partition Map partition. I've booted GUID on PPC Macs myself, so I know that GUID will boot on PPC Macs. For that matter, GUID is required if you want an external boot drive that can boot both Intel Macs PPC Macs. This requires Leopard since it's the only universal version of OS X that will boot both PPC x86. There are plenty of reports on the internet of PPC Macs booting GUID, here's my I'm Feeling Lucky hit, but there are more: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=376686 Also, PC Hackintosh used to be Master Boot Record scheme only, but now GUID is the preferred scheme for booting a PC Hackintosh. With Leopard you could possibly have an external HD that would boot OS X on PPC Mac, Intel Mac, and Hackintosh; a truly universal boot disk. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: VERY good hint today at MacOS X Hints
On Jan 28, 2010, at 4:03 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Jan 28, 2010, at 10:50 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: In fact it won't work on a PPC mac, you need to format it as a Apple Partition Map partition. I've booted GUID on PPC Macs myself, so I know that GUID will boot on PPC Macs. Well, I was going by what Apple said in Disk Utility itself: http://dbdev2.pharmacy.arizona.edu/miscjunk/DU_part_schemes.png -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: VERY good hint today at MacOS X Hints
On 1/28/10, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jan 28, 2010, at 4:03 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: I've booted GUID on PPC Macs myself, so I know that GUID will boot on PPC Macs. Well, I was going by what Apple said in Disk Utility itself: http://dbdev2.pharmacy.arizona.edu/miscjunk/DU_part_schemes.png For more information about this partitioning scheme then you ever wanted to know go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: VERY good hint today at MacOS X Hints
Bruce Johnson writes, http://tinyurl.com/ydmr4ux Run full OS X installer for another drive without rebooting Wow! Will this work with Tiger? ~Yersinia. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: VERY good hint today at MacOS X Hints
On Jan 27, 2010, at 4:53 PM, ===( )8 yersi...@verizon.net wrote: Bruce Johnson writes, http://tinyurl.com/ydmr4ux Run full OS X installer for another drive without rebooting Wow! Will this work with Tiger? I suspect it might, it's worth a shot. -- Bruce -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: VERY good hint today at MacOS X Hints
Previously, at 8:46 pm -0700 1/27/10, Bruce Johnson wrote: http://tinyurl.com/ydmr4ux Run full OS X installer for another drive without rebooting Wow! Will this work with Tiger? I suspect it might, it's worth a shot. can I do it from by BW to my Powerbook G4? and (I hate asking this) how? p. -- Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. - Isaac Asimov -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: VERY good hint today at MacOS X Hints
On Jan 27, 2010, at 9:21 PM, Paul Stamsen wrote: Previously, at 8:46 pm -0700 1/27/10, Bruce Johnson wrote: http://tinyurl.com/ydmr4ux Run full OS X installer for another drive without rebooting Wow! Will this work with Tiger? I suspect it might, it's worth a shot. can I do it from by BW to my Powerbook G4? Yes, via FireWire Target mode on the G4. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: VERY good hint today at MacOS X Hints
On Jan 27, 2010, at 9:46 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 27, 2010, at 4:53 PM, ===( )8 yersi...@verizon.net wrote: Bruce Johnson writes, http://tinyurl.com/ydmr4ux Run full OS X installer for another drive without rebooting Wow! Will this work with Tiger? I suspect it might, it's worth a shot. It's not necessary to run this Terminal command to launch the DVD's Installer.app. The Installer.app on your installed system HD works fine for installing OS X onto any drive OTHER than the boot HD. The way you do this is to navigate in the OS X Install CD/DVD to SystemInstallationPackagesOSInstall.mpkg and then double-click it. It will launch Installer on your HD and install onto ANY valid HD including your boot HD, but DON'T install onto your boot HD, ONLY install onto another HD. When you boot another HD you'll be greeted with the normal account setup procedure. This method does NOT give you any customization options, so if you need other stuff you'll have to add it separately. This can be done identically (without booting the Install CD/DVD but navigating to SystemInstallationPackages(whatever optional package you need, say Print Drivers, or X11, or whatever), and double-click it. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
