Re: VHS to DVD

2009-06-03 Thread starrfarr



On Jun 2, 8:00 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote:
 On Jun 2, 2009, at 4:50 PM, glen wrote:



  This idea has got my attention. I remember such a device from  
  Computer Geeks a year or so  ago. Checking their site I see none  
  available. What combo deck do you or anyone else recommend?

 Many people I trust have said that Lite-on units are good...There's  
 one you can get for about $100 (google 'Lite-on VHS + DVD recorder')

 --
 Bruce Johnson


On Jun 2, 8:00 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote:
 On Jun 2, 2009, at 4:50 PM, glen wrote:



  This idea has got my attention. I remember such a device from
  Computer Geeks a year or so  ago. Checking their site I see none
  available. What combo deck do you or anyone else recommend?

 Many people I trust have said that Lite-on units are good...There's
 one you can get for about $100 (google 'Lite-on VHS + DVD recorder')

 --
 Bruce Johnson

Keep in mind that VHS tapes are very limited in quality.  Many methods
of dubbing to DVD are much more than good enough to do justice to the
best of VHS.  That said,  DVD recorders are usually very good and can
produce copies that are indistinguishable from the original even from
digital sources. And it is an easy one step process so if you have
many tapes to dub, it's the only way to go.  Camcorders are the only
direct digital input most recorders will allow, though.  If you want
to copy from a DVD to one of these recorders, you must go through an
analog stage...DVD player to analog input of the recorder.   There's a
loss in quality but it is one way to beat copy protection.   (I am not
advocating any illegal activity, though.)

I have experience with Lite--on recorders.   The advantage with them
is that you can upgrade their firmware, and you can find hacked
firmware that will allow you to copy Macrovision tapes.  The downside
is that the drives in the Lite-on machines are cheesey and the drawer
mechanisms can wear out quickly.  But they are standard PATA drives
and can be replaced fairly easily with better ones.  I replaced mine
with a Lite-on brand drive to assure compatibility.

The older Lite-ons will also record many different formats and media
types: they are nicknamed Allwrite   This includes audio cds in real
time, which isn't a feature on any of the newer recorders, as far as I
can tell.   I digitize cassette tapes on the recorder, then edit the
aif files from the CD on the Mac. Pausing the recorder creates a new
track on the cd.

And, they are a stealth way to convert from PAL to NTSC or vice versa,
maybe SECAM too, I don't remember.  You simply set the desired output
format and feed it either input format.A feature you may never
need.But it can be pretty handy if you do.  They will output to
either format monitor too.

Rich
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Re: VHS to DVD

2009-06-02 Thread Tom

On Jun 1, 8:59 pm, Hosemonkey hosemon...@mchsi.com wrote:
 Roxio has a program and an adapter to transfer VHS content to H/D for
 recording. I guess the real question is how can you get encrypted VHS
 content into a form that will allow you to transfer it to DVD?

I use a Canopus analog-to-digital converter box between my VCR and my
Mac. The audio and video cables from the VCR connect to the Canopus,
and then the Canopus connects to the Mac with a Firewire cable. I can
feed video into either iMovie or Final Cut in the Mac. The VCR can
play either VHS tapes or DVDs. If the VHS tape or DVD has copy-
protection, a red light comes on on the front of the Canopus box. When
that happens, I hold down a couple of buttons on the top of the
Canopus for a couple of seconds until the light goes out, and then the
encryption is bypassed and the movie feeds into the Mac normally.
Other converter boxes may also be able to do this, but I do know that
the Canopus ADVC300 can.

Tom
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Re: VHS to DVD

2009-06-02 Thread Ralph Green

Howdy,
  Tom Baker pointed you to one device.  That is a reasonably expensive
unit.  I saw devices a few years ago for around $100 that would do what
you need.  I was looking at those devices seriously at the time, but
never bought one.  I really never needed one, because I was buying
movies on LaserDisk and Macrovision corruption can't be put on LaserDisk
videos.   The devices are sometimes referred to as image stabilizers or
something similar.  There are legitimate uses for these and they are not
just for copying Macrovision protected content.  Macrovision works by
fiddling with the vertical blanking interval of the frames.  Some
stabilizers completely replace the vertical blanking interval with a
clean one.  This is needed for analog devices that are sensitive to the
fiddling.  So, look for a stabilizer that rebuilds the vertical blanking
interval and a side effect is that macrovision corruption of your images
goes away.  You also get a cleaner picture.
Good luck,
Ralph

On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 19:59 -0700, Hosemonkey wrote:
 content into a form that will allow you to transfer it to DVD? Mac the
 Ripper works for DVD material, is there anything that serves the same
 purpose for VHS?



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Re: VHS to DVD

2009-06-02 Thread Michael Emery

As Doug Burton recommended, I use an EyeTV 200 to do this. It also
allows me to watch TV on my iMac as if it were a DVR. ;-)

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Re: VHS to DVD

2009-06-02 Thread Doug Burton

On Jun 2, 2009, at 5:10 AM, Ralph Green wrote:


 Howdy,
   Tom Baker pointed you to one device.  That is a reasonably expensive
 unit.  I saw devices a few years ago for around $100 that would do  
 what
 you need.  I was looking at those devices seriously at the time, but
 never bought one.  I really never needed one, because I was buying
 movies on LaserDisk and Macrovision corruption can't be put on  
 LaserDisk
 videos.   The devices are sometimes referred to as image  
 stabilizers or
 something similar.  There are legitimate uses for these and they  
 are not
 just for copying Macrovision protected content.  Macrovision works by
 fiddling with the vertical blanking interval of the frames.  Some
 stabilizers completely replace the vertical blanking interval with a
 clean one.  This is needed for analog devices that are sensitive to  
 the
 fiddling.  So, look for a stabilizer that rebuilds the vertical  
 blanking
 interval and a side effect is that macrovision corruption of your  
 images
 goes away.  You also get a cleaner picture.
 Good luck,
 Ralph

 On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 19:59 -0700, Hosemonkey wrote:
 content into a form that will allow you to transfer it to DVD? Mac  
 the
 Ripper works for DVD material, is there anything that serves the same
 purpose for VHS?

The old saying, you get what you pay for, comes to mind.  Having  
used both devices I can tell you the results using the Canopus  
ADVC300 are far superior to that of any other device I have tried.   
Of course if you don't care how the finished product comes out, any  
old A/D device will work.  Also be prepared for some mismatch on  
sound and video using iMovie and iDVD.  I used the '06 version and  
noticed this problem with some longer movies.  They may have fixed  
this problem in later versions, but Final Cut doesn't suffer from  
this problem.  Naturally it's more expensive though.

Just a message from Doug...

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Re: VHS to DVD

2009-06-02 Thread glen






- Original Message 
 From: Stephen E. Bodnar sbod...@gci.net
 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 9:18:08 PM
 Subject: Re: VHS to DVD
 
 
 hosemonkey wrote:
  I have a ton of movies on VHS tape(doesn't everybody?) I would like to
  get them on DVD. How can I rip VHS movies to DVD and is there a
  program (such as Mac the Ripper for VHS) that will decode VHS and make
  them usable to transfer to DVD? Ant advice would be appreciated.
 
 Best way I found is with a VHS/DVD combo deck. Just put it in the corner 
 and let it rip! No computer necessary and the quality is pretty goll 
 darn good.
 
 My 2 cents.
 

This idea has got my attention. I remember such a device from Computer Geeks a 
year or so  ago. Checking their site I see none available. What combo deck do 
you or anyone else recommend?

What are pro's and con's compared to using a Mac based VHS to DVD converter and 
using iMovie or other software to do this conversion? It seems there is always 
a trade off between the easy and the quick to the more time consuming 
alternatives.

Like the OP,  I have a  project that involves converting VHS tapes to DVD. My 
VHS tapes are recently found family history tapes  that I would like to convert 
send to other family members as DVD's.

Thanks --glen

PS. The most potent Mac I have is a 733 MHz DA. I know video capture requires a 
lot of  processing power so I may need a faster Mac or a CPU upgrade to do on 
the conversion on a Mac. Just another cost factor I need to consider. Your 
thoughts?



  

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Re: VHS to DVD

2009-06-02 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Jun 2, 2009, at 4:50 PM, glen wrote:


 This idea has got my attention. I remember such a device from  
 Computer Geeks a year or so  ago. Checking their site I see none  
 available. What combo deck do you or anyone else recommend?

Many people I trust have said that Lite-on units are good...There's  
one you can get for about $100 (google 'Lite-on VHS + DVD recorder')



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University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
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Re: VHS to DVD

2009-06-02 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

Bruce Johnson wrote:
 
 On Jun 2, 2009, at 4:50 PM, glen wrote:
 
 This idea has got my attention. I remember such a device from  
 Computer Geeks a year or so  ago. Checking their site I see none  
 available. What combo deck do you or anyone else recommend?
 
 Many people I trust have said that Lite-on units are good...There's  
 one you can get for about $100 (google 'Lite-on VHS + DVD recorder')
 
 
 

I'm familiar with 3. Unfortunately, they are all at work and I am at 
home. I'll check the exact model numbers tomorrow.

One is a Magnavox that came from Wal-Mart to play throwaway VHS tapes 
and DVD's. It also makes great throwaway DVD's, it has a habit of 
quitting right when the dub is about 3/4 done.

The other 2 are a Panasonic and a high end Sony. Both work really well. 
The Sony is also really expensive as Sonys tend to be, and the Panasonic 
gives as good a quality dubs.

Like I said, I'll look up some model numbers tomorrow and get back to you.

Stephen

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VHS to DVD

2009-06-01 Thread hosemonkey

I have a ton of movies on VHS tape(doesn't everybody?) I would like to
get them on DVD. How can I rip VHS movies to DVD and is there a
program (such as Mac the Ripper for VHS) that will decode VHS and make
them usable to transfer to DVD? Ant advice would be appreciated.
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Re: VHS to DVD

2009-06-01 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar

hosemonkey wrote:
 I have a ton of movies on VHS tape(doesn't everybody?) I would like to
 get them on DVD. How can I rip VHS movies to DVD and is there a
 program (such as Mac the Ripper for VHS) that will decode VHS and make
 them usable to transfer to DVD? Ant advice would be appreciated.

Best way I found is with a VHS/DVD combo deck. Just put it in the corner 
and let it rip! No computer necessary and the quality is pretty goll 
darn good.

My 2 cents.

Stephen

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Re: VHS to DVD

2009-06-01 Thread Hosemonkey

Roxio has a program and an adapter to transfer VHS content to H/D for
recording. I guess the real question is how can you get encrypted VHS
content into a form that will allow you to transfer it to DVD? Mac the
Ripper works for DVD material, is there anything that serves the same
purpose for VHS?

On Jun 1, 6:19 pm, Doug Burton slu...@embarqmail.com wrote:
 On Jun 1, 2009, at 8:20 PM, hosemonkey wrote:



  I have a ton of movies on VHS tape(doesn't everybody?) I would like to
  get them on DVD. How can I rip VHS movies to DVD and is there a
  program (such as Mac the Ripper for VHS) that will decode VHS and make
  them usable to transfer to DVD? Ant advice would be appreciated.

 Basically you need an A/D device in between your computer and VCR, or  
 some camcorders have a firewire output which can be used.  I used  
 iMovie and iDVD to import and burn my collection, but there are  
 better solutions available.  HTH

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Re: VHS to DVD

2009-06-01 Thread Fabian Fang

On Jun 1, 2009, at 7:59 PM, Hosemonkey wrote:

 Roxio has a program and an adapter to transfer VHS content to H/D for
 recording,

which has very bad user reviews:
http://www.amazon.com/Roxio-Easy-VHS-to-DVD/product-reviews/B001LQO4P4/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8showViewpoints=1
 
 

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