Re: imac g5 will not install 10.4/10.5 - dead hd or...?

2011-07-22 Thread Dan

At 2:47 AM +0200 7/21/2011, t...@nehaia.dk wrote:

17 imac g5, 1.8 ghz, 1.5 gb ram and a 150 gb hd
10.5 with all updates

it started with an unwillingness to wake up from sleep,

[snip]

The symptoms you describe seem more like a failing HD than a power supply.

Can you boot on an external drive?

If you can get access to them, it might be interesting to view the 
system logs.  That's where the actual error messages as the original 
failure would be.



Aside - stop doing things like repairing permissions.  That's like 
fiddling with your car's door locks when the problem is that the 
engine is sputtering.  At best it does nothing.  At worst it locks 
you out!  If your HD is failing, the *last* thing you want to do is 
add more corruptions to it!


- Dan.
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imac g5 will not install 10.4/10.5 - dead hd or...?

2011-07-20 Thread tina
very long horror story - sorry :-(

17 imac g5, 1.8 ghz, 1.5 gb ram and a 150 gb hd - I've owned it for about
a year or so, and it's been working fine until very recently, running 10.5
with all updates

it started with an unwillingness to wake up from sleep, it was occasional
and typically when I'd been playing a game that tends to get the fans up
running

searched a bit around but only found some hints that the power supply
might be dying - nothing to do but wait and see

however, I thought it a good idea to try and reset the thingy - sorry,
can't remember the name of it, but the pulle the plug and push the power
button procedure

also checked the hd with the system disk utility and it seemed fine, so
repaired permissions - there was a lot of out of order there

then it seemed happy again and the don't want to wake up vanished

yesterday - out of the blue, while surfing around, it became unresponsive
and the beach ball just turned and turned. tried to force quit the
browser, but it would not - so power button

beach ball and power button again - 2-3 times more

after that it came up with a huuge dock, with apps in it I had deleted
from there a long time ago, question marks for the apps I'd deleted, and
all apps I've put there was gone...

normal shut down from the menu made everything disappear from the desktop...

up again in that weird mode and it froze as soon as I tried to open a
finder window

tried booting in safe mode - now it asked for password, which I normally
don't use but after that, all I got was an empty desktop - oh and the fans
running full speed - power button

time to get out the 10.5 install disk me thinks - it got spat out of there
like a rocket

one more time, and it stayed in and I could get to the disk utility which
stated the hd was fine... well ok, but maybe those permissions could do
with some repairs then - on we go

after some 2 hours I deem the task fruitless and (guess that was stupid)
aborted... and... check disk now reports it not good - several red lines
about invalid extent entry and files supposed to 4k being 2gb - all ending
up with the volume could not be repaired

hmmm - times to start the old beige and do some yahooing (google crashes
my old netscape)

found the fsck command and gave it a try - after 5 times with the exact
same errors turning up an ending with could not be repaired, file
system was modified, I went to bed and decided to rease and start over
today

so, a new day and on with the task of trying to save my audio books and
downloads - thank god for the firewire target mode and my old beige

after some hours of saving files (no errors or hangs or anything), I went
on to the fresh install task

phew - not starting good still spitting out the 10.5 disk - oh well, I
like 10.4 better, and so does the imac it seems

I zeroed the hd and now it was reportedly fino, so install procedure on we
go - weed out all the unnecesary printers and laguages - go...

until... almost done - sorry en error, try again, and again, and again -
error, error, error - even tried the 10.5 again also error, with 10.5 it
gave me a strange message about not liking the package - or something

oh the disk errors came back, erased it again - install error again

in the hope of some magic advice and tia

/tina

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