replacement HDD only gets MS-DOS Options in partition menu

2014-04-12 Thread Xion Dracari
i replaced my old Snow white iMac G3's 40GB hdd w/ a 80GB IDE Drive i had 
in an old IBM Server, 

what i remember when preparing the drive boot the iMac w/ Disc one of OSX's 
CDvers set (this iMac doesnt have a DVD Drive) select the Drive itself and 
under Erase set it to Volume Format: MacOS Extended (Journaled)
then under the untitled partition i can partition it off 1 small one for 
OS9 dualboot.(yes i had it install the OS 9 Disk Driver.) and the rest for 
OS X Tiger and i've replaced the HDD before in my DVi+ G3 iMac and had done 
it that way w/o issue


however w/ this iMac under the partition Scheme,  only see MS-DOS for 
partition Type. any idea whats going on? the Drive's a 80GB Western Digital 
branded HDD.

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Re: replacement HDD only gets MS-DOS Options in partition menu

2014-04-12 Thread Kris Tilford
On Apr 12, 2014, at 3:59 AM, Xion Dracari xiondrac...@gmail.com wrote:

 however w/ this iMac under the partition Scheme,  only see MS-DOS for 
 partition Type. any idea whats going on? the Drive's a 80GB Western Digital 
 branded HDD.

Your problem is that you haven't reformatted the HD to Apple Partition Format, 
it's still Master Boot Record partition format. In Disk Utility, highlight the 
HD itself, and then under Options select Apple Partition Format. Then select 
however many partitions you want, and size them accordingly. You probably only 
need a few GB for OS 9, and honestly you don't actually even need a separate 
partition for OS 9, it can reside on the same partition as OS X and still be 
dual bootable via the Option key boot. In most cases OS 9 runs faster as 
Classic emulation under OS X than it does natively booted. The only reason to 
boot OS 9 rather than run as Classic would be special hardware that lacks any 
OS X support or drivers. Almost all printers, scanners, and other standard 
hardware are still accessible from Classic.

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Re: replacement HDD only gets MS-DOS Options in partition menu

2014-04-12 Thread Thomas Fritsch
ok this is weird ... the install breaks the moment it needs CD 2. (it says
There were errors durring install try again later)


On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 5:32 AM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote:

 On Apr 12, 2014, at 3:59 AM, Xion Dracari xiondrac...@gmail.com wrote:

 however w/ this iMac under the partition Scheme,  only see MS-DOS for
 partition Type. any idea whats going on? the Drive's a 80GB Western Digital
 branded HDD.


 Your problem is that you haven’t reformatted the HD to Apple Partition
 Format, it’s still Master Boot Record partition format. In Disk Utility,
 highlight the HD itself, and then under Options select Apple Partition
 Format. Then select however many partitions you want, and size them
 accordingly. You probably only need a few GB for OS 9, and honestly you
 don’t actually even need a separate partition for OS 9, it can reside on
 the same partition as OS X and still be dual bootable via the Option key
 boot. In most cases OS 9 runs faster as Classic emulation under OS X than
 it does natively booted. The only reason to boot OS 9 rather than run as
 Classic would be special hardware that lacks any OS X support or drivers.
 Almost all printers, scanners, and other standard hardware are still
 accessible from Classic.

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Re: replacement HDD only gets MS-DOS Options in partition menu

2014-04-12 Thread Mac User #330250
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Subject: replacement HDD only gets MS-DOS Options in partition menu
Date:Saturday, 12 April 2014
From:Xion Dracari
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Hello!

 i replaced my old Snow white iMac G3's 40GB hdd w/ a 80GB IDE Drive i had 
 in an old IBM Server,
So this drive uses most likely a different partitioning scheme i.e.
partition table. Apple from the Power Mac era use APM, Apple Partition
Map. PCs and other x86 architectures of that era used MBR, Master Boot
Record. Some IBM servers are PowerPC based thou, so chances are it uses
a different partition map.
 what i remember when preparing the drive boot the iMac w/ Disc one of OSX's 
 CDvers set (this iMac doesnt have a DVD Drive) select the Drive itself and 
 under Erase set it to Volume Format: MacOS Extended (Journaled)
 then under the untitled partition i can partition it off 1 small one for 
 OS9 dualboot.(yes i had it install the OS 9 Disk Driver.) and the rest for 
 OS X Tiger and i've replaced the HDD before in my DVi+ G3 iMac and had done 
 it that way w/o issue
That sounds good so far. Make sure you select APM as partition map when
repartitioning, otherwise the current partition map will be used.
 however w/ this iMac under the partition Scheme,  only see MS-DOS for 
 partition Type. any idea whats going on? the Drive's a 80GB Western Digital 
 branded HDD.
The explanation might be that the drive is still partitioned with a
Master Boot Record.

http://macs.about.com/od/usingyourmac/qt/partition-types.htm

I hope that helps,
Andreas  aka  Mac User #330250


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Re: replacement HDD only gets MS-DOS Options in partition menu

2014-04-12 Thread Kris Tilford
On Apr 12, 2014, at 6:32 AM, Thomas Fritsch xiondrac...@gmail.com wrote:

 ok this is weird ... the install breaks the moment it needs CD 2.

On an OS X Tiger 10.4 installation, nothing is required beyond CD 1 if you 
deselect every possible Optional installation during the setup, and only check 
Install Base System. All of the other software can be installed AFTER by 
inserting CD 2, 3, or 4 and double-clicking any of the installer packages. 
Since virtually every piece of optional software has been upgraded and will 
need the equivalent of a complete reinstall, it will be faster to download the 
newer updates and install them directly than to install them from CD, and then 
download and reinstall the updates. When I install Tiger I rarely ever use 
anything past CD 1. A large part is your exact problem, the installation fails 
with an error message that can be avoided with little or no downside.

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Re: replacement HDD only gets MS-DOS Options in partition menu

2014-04-12 Thread Thomas Fritsch
reformatted the HDD again cleaned off my disc and it installed properly ,
Now to connect it to the net and grab all the updates ! thanks for the help.


On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote:

 On Apr 12, 2014, at 6:32 AM, Thomas Fritsch xiondrac...@gmail.com wrote:

 ok this is weird ... the install breaks the moment it needs CD 2.


 On an OS X Tiger 10.4 installation, nothing is required beyond CD 1 if you
 deselect every possible Optional installation during the setup, and only
 check “Install Base System”. All of the other software can be installed
 AFTER by inserting CD 2, 3, or 4 and double-clicking any of the installer
 packages. Since virtually every piece of optional software has been
 upgraded and will need the equivalent of a complete reinstall, it will be
 faster to download the newer updates and install them directly than to
 install them from CD, and then download and reinstall the updates. When I
 install Tiger I rarely ever use anything past CD 1. A large part is your
 exact problem, the installation fails with an error message that can be
 avoided with little or no downside.

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