Re: Dead after copying files to an external firewire drive.
On Saturday, July 6, 2013 9:08:18 AM UTC-7, Clark Martin wrote: On Jul 5, 2013, at 8:38 PM, spilrules wrote: I am wondering now if this is a sign of a bad motherboard? If so, any advance warnings, suggestions, etc. or should I just keep it as an attractive paperweight or bookend? I think you are right about the motherboard. BUT... try disconnecting the following and power it up: Harddrive Memory Keyboard Trackpad WiFi card Anything external Then try it with ANYTHING plugged into the motherboard I tried unplugging everything from the motherboard and plugging the power back in and nothing happens. I also tried systematically disconnecting items separately and still had the same result. I can only see the power cord light up when plugged into the DC input board if I unplug the cable that goes from the DC input board to the motherboard. As soon as I plug it back in, the power cord does not light up. If this cable is disconnected, the power cord lights up orange but nothing will obviously work. I assume the motherboard is dead? If anyone has any other ideas before I buy a motherboard, please let me know. Also any problems in replacing it that anyone can warn me of would be greatly appreciated! Thanks to all for the help as always! Tom -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Dead after copying files to an external firewire drive.
Uggh, I suspect you may be correct about a bad MB. You seem to have eliminated every other possibility..one thing you didn't mention, have you tried it without having the battery in it? Yes I did try without the battery and it did not do anything either. I will try what Clark suggested as far as unplugging things and attaching the power cord to see what happens as soon as I can (hopefully) tomorrow and will let you know what it does. Any problems or major difficulties I should know about as far as changing out the logic board? Thanks again to all! Tom -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Dead after copying files to an external firewire drive.
So I tried to post this 3 or 4 times to the G4 Books list and it never showed up. Also that list appears to be abandoned so I will try it here with hope of success in getting some more advice. Back in March I was copying some large files from my 15 G4 PB 1.67 model #A1138 to an external firewire HD and left my office for a couple hours. Upon returning I noticed that the computer was not running. I know I didn't shut it off and there was no power outage, as my digital clock was still set correctly on my desk. I also noticed that the AC cord that is normally lit up in a green color when plugged into the PB was not lit up. Upon trying to start the computer, there was no response at all. The battery indicator showed a full charge. I tried another AC adapter to no avail. I tested both AC adapters with my other 12 PB and they worked fine. I posted on here and tried these things based on the following advice: Reset of the power manager: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1431 Which was recommended by Bruce Johnson and it still did nothing. Take the battery out, unplug the adapter and press the power button and wait 10 minutes. Then reconnect power and hit the power button, then insert the battery. This should drain any capacitors that may be holding enough charge to keep some circuits powered and in a confused state. This was recommended by Clark Martin and also did not do anything. Kris Tilford suggested: Broken power button? I am not sure how to test thisdoes this sound possible? Bruce then replied: If the battery shows a full charge, and the system won't boot off of just the battery, I'd say that the DC board on it died. Kinda fiddly to replace : http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing+PowerBook+G4+Aluminum+15-Inch+1.67+GHz+DC+%26+Sound+Card/651/1 but not terrible. Then John Carmonne sent this: I have repaired a lot of G4 Power Books and for me the most troublesome DC board have been the 1.67 A1138 models, some are the jack from abuse and some are the board, a mutimeter will tell you which it is. There are two 1.67's so be sure if you have to buy one that you get the correct unit:-) So I bought a DC board off of ebay, had it shipped overseas to me and installed it and it still does nothing. Crap! Frustrated and busy I stuck the thing in my closet. Now I am wanting to fix it if possible because I really love this machine, so I was hoping to get some more advice if possible. Here is what I noticed as I played around with things. After taking out the old DC input board and installing the new one, I plugged in the old one that was out of the system and noticed that the AC power cord would light up in the orange color that it usually would do when the battery was not fully charged. I disassembled the laptop again and found that if I unplugged the little wired cable that connects from the DC input board to the motherboard and plugged the AC power cord back in, it would light up orange, just as the old board did that was removed from the laptop. When I plug this cable back into the motherboard and re-install the AC power cord, it does not light up, thus it will not charge the battery and certainly will not start up the computer. I am wondering now if this is a sign of a bad motherboard? If so, any advance warnings, suggestions, etc. or should I just keep it as an attractive paperweight or bookend? Any other thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated, and thanks also to all of you who responded previously to me! Tom -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Dead after copying files to an external firewire drive.
On Jul 5, 2013, at 8:38 PM, spilrules t...@tomstock.us wrote: Here is what I noticed as I played around with things. After taking out the old DC input board and installing the new one, I plugged in the old one that was out of the system and noticed that the AC power cord would light up in the orange color that it usually would do when the battery was not fully charged. I disassembled the laptop again and found that if I unplugged the little wired cable that connects from the DC input board to the motherboard and plugged the AC power cord back in, it would light up orange, just as the old board did that was removed from the laptop. When I plug this cable back into the motherboard and re-install the AC power cord, it does not light up, thus it will not charge the battery and certainly will not start up the computer. I am wondering now if this is a sign of a bad motherboard? If so, any advance warnings, suggestions, etc. or should I just keep it as an attractive paperweight or bookend? Uggh, I suspect you may be correct about a bad MB. You seem to have eliminated every other possibility..one thing you didn't mention, have you tried it without having the battery in it? -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are. B. Banzai, PhD -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Dead after copying files to an external firewire drive.
On Jul 5, 2013, at 8:38 PM, spilrules wrote: Here is what I noticed as I played around with things. After taking out the old DC input board and installing the new one, I plugged in the old one that was out of the system and noticed that the AC power cord would light up in the orange color that it usually would do when the battery was not fully charged. I disassembled the laptop again and found that if I unplugged the little wired cable that connects from the DC input board to the motherboard and plugged the AC power cord back in, it would light up orange, just as the old board did that was removed from the laptop. When I plug this cable back into the motherboard and re-install the AC power cord, it does not light up, thus it will not charge the battery and certainly will not start up the computer. I am wondering now if this is a sign of a bad motherboard? If so, any advance warnings, suggestions, etc. or should I just keep it as an attractive paperweight or bookend? I think you are right about the motherboard. BUT... try disconnecting the following and power it up: Harddrive Memory Keyboard Trackpad WiFi card Anything external Then try it with ANYTHING plugged into the motherboard -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Copying Files
On Sep 24, 2008, at 8:10 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: Whenever I try to copy stuff from my Smurf to another HD on my network it says it cannot do it and gives an error code of -50 What does this mean and how do I correct it? How are you copying it? What OS is the 'other HD' on your network running? -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Copying Files
On Sep 25, 2008, at 3:20 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: 10.2.8 Its running as I can see it Drag the file onto the icon for the other HD Ugh, that sux. I've only ever run into that error with samba shares, and it's because the share was messed up. FWIW it's a no brainer to try the fixgo to the 10.2 machine, stop the file sharing, restart the computer and re-share the drive. ON the other one, restart the computer and re-attach the shared Mac volume. This is what works with flaky samba shares, particularly on older macs. I've no clue whether this will work for afp shares, though. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Copying Files
At 15:30 -0700 9/25/08, Bruce Johnson wrote: This is what works with flaky samba shares, particularly on older macs. I've no clue whether this will work for afp shares, though. With the introduction of 10.4 Apple disabled file transfer and sharing over the older version of afp that used AppleTalk either over twisted pair localtalk or AppleTalk over ethernet. It made it impossible to connect OS neXt to systems earlier than OS 8.5 without purchasing proprietary software from OpenDoor. In OS 8 or 9 and possibly OS 10.2 you have to enable AppleTalk over IP, internet protocol. It's a deliberate selection in a preference somewhere that has to be set and may not be the default in OS 10.2. Personally I have discovered the scp capability of Openssh which is delivered with essentially all versions of OS neXt. It works with a whole lot of boxes. But you do have to use a command line or a hand-written AppleScript. If scp doesn't work, think OS 7, curl will but it's not very secure. -- -- From the U S of A, the only socialist country that refuses to admit it. -- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Copying Files
10.2.8 Its running as I can see it Drag the file onto the icon for the other HD On 9/25/08, Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 24, 2008, at 8:10 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: Whenever I try to copy stuff from my Smurf to another HD on my network it says it cannot do it and gives an error code of -50 What does this mean and how do I correct it? How are you copying it? What OS is the 'other HD' on your network running? -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
