Re: Slow Motion G4 After HDD Switch

2011-10-27 Thread Wayne Stewart
How much space is left on your boot volume?

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Re: Slow Motion G4 After HDD Switch

2011-10-27 Thread glen


- Original Message -
 From: Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net
 
 Since the problem happens when booted in both OS 9  OS X, it's unlikely 
 to be a software  issue. You need to be thinking about hardware problems. 
 Zapping the PRAM isn't always enough, you may need to reset the NVRAM by 
 booting Cmd-Opt-O-F and typing:
 
 set-defaultsReturn
 reset-allReturn
 
 One thing that dramatically effects speed is the L2 cache. If the L2 cache 
 isn't functional, the speed will be REALLY slow. The Sawtooth has a 1MB L2 
 integrated into the G4 module. If the L2 goes bad, you would normally see a 
 warning when booting OS 9, and in OS X System Profiler I believe a bad L2 is 
 shown as no L2 or 0MB?

I reset the NVRAM and found the L2 cache in OS X to be 1 MB. I also ran Verify 
Disk in Disk Utility on the HDD and after 5 minutes it said all three volumes 
passed. But it is still incredible slow in OS 9 -- seconds to drag a folder to 
the Trash.

I was wrong about the speed in OS X. Given the  Sawtooth only has a 450 MHz 
processor I think its speed is normal. I ran the legacy software like PageMaker 
in Classic mode and all seemed normal. Perhaps a bit slower than native OS 9 
before the HDD switch but no real hesitation in opening files or window, no 
ghost images when dragging windows around, and no hesitation dragging files and 
folders into Trash.

The  problem seems to be with native OS 9. Could it be some kind of OS 9 
directory corruption? I have a pre OS X version of Disk Warrior but don't think 
it would be good to run it under OS 9 on a volume with OS X installed? I could 
try a clean install of OS 9 (ugh) or just run in Classic under OS X and 
re-managed the thousands of fonts-- not so bad and still fast enough for this 
legacy machine.

Anyway, thanks Kris, I appreciate your time.

AND
From: Wayne Stewart waynejstew...@gmail.com

How much space is left on your boot volume?

WDC HDD 74.3 GB (1024) total space
Boot  Volume: 37.1 GB total --  25.97 GB available
Data Volume: 27.25 GB total -- 17.88 GB available
Scrath Volume: 9.8 GB total -- 9.78 GB available

Best regards --glen

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Re: Slow Motion G4 After HDD Switch

2011-10-26 Thread Kris Tilford

On Oct 26, 2011, at 5:54 PM, glen wrote:


Cause of the problem?


Since the problem happens when booted in both OS 9  OS X, it's  
unlikely to be a software  issue. You need to be thinking about  
hardware problems. Zapping the PRAM isn't always enough, you may need  
to reset the NVRAM by booting Cmd-Opt-O-F and typing:


set-defaultsReturn
reset-allReturn

where Return means hit the Return key. Reply should be ok to the  
1st command, and a restart to the 2nd command.


One thing that dramatically effects speed is the L2 cache. If the L2  
cache isn't functional, the speed will be REALLY slow. The Sawtooth  
has a 1MB L2 integrated into the G4 module. If the L2 goes bad, you  
would normally see a warning when booting OS 9, and in OS X System  
Profiler I believe a bad L2 is shown as no L2 or 0MB?


Bad RAM, or a bad HD, are other possibilities, but whatever it is,  
since it's happening while booted in both OS 9 and OS X, it's highly  
likely it's a hardware issue assuming that you've zapped the PRAM and  
reset the NVRAM.


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