Feature Requests item #934909, was opened at 2004-04-14 08:57 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by lschiere You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=350235&aid=934909&group_id=235
Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None >Status: Closed Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Siebe (siebe) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: MSN: Missing P4-Context field in header Initial Comment: Gaim misses the support for the P4-Context field in message headers. The P4 header can simulate friendlynames, instead of using the one defined in the MSG line: ----------------------- P4-Context field This optional field in a plaintext message specifies a name that should be marked as "saying" the text of the message. This was discussed in thread 6677. It's most likely a feature of either MSNC1 or MSNC2, but not enough research has been done to be certain. If the official client receives the following: MIME-Version: 1.0\r\n Content-Type: text/plain\r\n P4-Context: My friendlyname\r\n \r\n Hello It would display: My friendlyname says: Hello ----------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Luke Schierer (lschiere) Date: 2007-04-20 10:55 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=28833 Originator: NO As we are closing this tracker, please submit any feature request that is still valid to http://developer.pidgin.im. Thanks. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Felipe Contreras (revo) Date: 2004-10-06 10:53 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=158337 This is alredy in CVS, isn't? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Robert Mibus (mibus) Date: 2004-06-01 22:21 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1576 As someone who occasionally does MSN-based stuff (rarely in any state to pass upstream, but a few patches have been), I'd like to vote *against* adding any P4-Context support. Not in the way that MSN proper supports it, anyway. (FWIW, it's "supported" in 6.x, but it won't let the user select the field. MSN < 6.0 doesn't support it at all). The reason is simple - security. You can easily patch Gaim to send a P4-Context header (in msn_send_im()), and everyone on MSN6.x will see the "alternate" name. In a groupchat with MSN6 users, with the ability to selectively alter your displayed display name, you can effectively masquerade as other users. While it's a solvable problem socially - you won't get invited into many conversations ;) - IMVHO we should at least flag that the username is "altered" if we support displaying this field at all. As for sending it... *shrugs*. Potential for abuse, but hey that's what MSN is good for ;-). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Siebe (siebe) Date: 2004-05-13 14:22 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1021065 I am willing to help - If I knew some decent programming language (I assume Gaim is done in C or C++). I can understand you people are busy, as I'm involved in some bigger project myself aswell (dunno if you know BOT2k3.. Anyways, I'm doing most of the P2P (dp's, ce's, ink, ft's & msn6 games) works on it right now). Good luck with your final exams. Anyways, yes the client supports it. Sorry if I got pissed earlier, but this was just going on for ages, and I got a bit fed up with the responces ;) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Felipe Contreras (revo) Date: 2004-05-13 12:54 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=158337 Wait a second. I'm not attacking you or your purposal, I'm just commenting on it. When saying that the official client doesn't support it I never meant we should not. I'm just saying because it means it's not a bug, and also it's no a very high priority, I was not implying we are not going to support it, and even if I did there are other opinions. I'm sure this is not a big deal, and I'm sure people complain about Gaim's msn support but users should understand Gaim isn't being developed by some magical power, it's make by us, the developers. And something that you and a lot of other Gaim users probably don't know is that there are not many Gaim developers working on the msn protocol, in fact I would count only me and chipx86 as interested and chipx86 is forever busy. Also we both are going trough final exams these weeks. And in fact I'm not even considered a developer. My point is that if people complain about the Gaim's support then they should join and help, or just complain and understand we all have different priorities. Mine one right now is to redesign the msn prpl, something on which I have put a lot of effort and users can't see the benefict now, they only see a bunch of new bugs, but in the end it will be better. Also there are a ton bugs, weird behavior, and crashes people report. So there are priorities, I have stated mine ones and I hope you see why I won't do that right now, but as chipx86 said you can make a patch. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Siebe (siebe) Date: 2004-05-13 10:51 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1021065 Maybe, they added it because in the future releases of MSN that WILL be possible? Besides, I DO know what it is used by: several MSN features like games and stuff (Think about the QuickGreets for example, it will send the other person a message like "QuickGreets says: xyz has send you an e-card, click here <link> to view it!". Isn't a 3rd client application there to add features that the official MSN doesn't support? I've already contacted other clients like aMSN, and they agreed it was indeed something missing. I don't know about you, but they added it in several MINUTES, this thing here is going on for WEEKS. Also, bots are starting to use this header more often, to improve security and useabillity for, for example, a small chat room. It allows people to talk to each other using the bot without spammers and stuff entering. I've heard several users already complaining about bag GAIM support, and I by now I think that's completely true. But then again, that's only my, and that of several dozens of people's opinions. But hey, who cares? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Felipe Contreras (revo) Date: 2004-05-13 10:44 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=158337 The official client does send the P4-Context field, but I would not call it "support". That's for features, like some functionality, and I don't think there is any change in the functionality if we send the P4-Context. Since what we will send will be our nickname, and if the P4-Context field is not sent then the nickname of the buddy is shown in "John says:". So there will be absolutely no change. Seeing it that way it's not even a feature request in the sense of functionality. The request should be "To change what is our nick on a per-conversation basis", and the official client doesn't support that. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Siebe (siebe) Date: 2004-05-13 10:05 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1021065 The official client DOES support it. How else would I end up thiking about it, AND why else is it documented on Hypothetic? -_- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Luke Schierer (lschiere) Date: 2004-05-13 08:34 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=28833 this is only a bug if the official msn client supports it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Christian Hammond (chipx86) Date: 2004-05-13 01:53 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=5989 I have to agree with Felipe here. It's not a bug. It is a feature request, and while we can do it, there are plenty of other things were our efforts are better spent. If you would like to make a patch, I'll accept it (assuming it's done correctly :) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Felipe Contreras (revo) Date: 2004-05-13 01:51 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=158337 But it's not a bug, it's a feature request, and one of very very low priority since there is no visible result. This will probably be usefull in the future but right now I don't see why. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Siebe (siebe) Date: 2004-05-12 07:04 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1021065 A minor one yes, GAIM should in my opinion support this header, because several applications already do. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Felipe Contreras (revo) Date: 2004-05-12 03:56 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=158337 Is this a bug? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=350235&aid=934909&group_id=235 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. 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