Feature Requests item #1107332, was opened at 2005-01-22 09:46
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Category: msn
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>Status: Closed
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Priority: 5
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Submitted By: WareKala (warekala)
Assigned to: Tim Ringenbach (marv_sf)
Summary: Smileys working wrong
Initial Comment:
Gaim wrongly inserts a smile in-between of words and
sentences. This is really, really annoying for anyone
not speaking english. For example, the words "jvc:st�"
is display as "jvcANNOYINGSMILEYHEREt�"...Please fix
ASAP =)
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Comment By: Luke Schierer (lschiere)
Date: 2007-04-20 11:00
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As we are closing this tracker, please submit any feature request that is
still valid to http://developer.pidgin.im. Thanks.
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Comment By: Luke Schierer (lschiere)
Date: 2005-01-31 18:31
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there are, from the discussion that took place in #gaim, 2
or 3 languages that do this. it would be a pain to make it
locale dependent. i would tend to say we do it if one of hte
official clients do, otherwise these users can make a theme
that avoids :p
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Comment By: Tim Ringenbach (marv_sf)
Date: 2005-01-31 18:27
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I don't htink we should do anything, unless at least one of
AIM, Yahoo, MSN parse smileys differently than us, in at
least some version.
If it's locale dependent, we can always make it
localedepenent too i guess, though that kind of sucks.
I think a preference would be bad, you already have the
option of turning smileys off anyway. This would be one of
those "unbreak my Gaim" preferences we want to avoid, imo.
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Comment By: Felipe Contreras (revo)
Date: 2005-01-31 14:41
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I think it's a valid point, probably very important in
languages that join words, but I don't know of any except
Finnish, and that meas it's not the general case.
We can add a preference to Gaim that recognizes smileys as
separate words (and insert proper spaces when inserting a
smiley), yes, but who is going to use that?. I don't think
Finnish users are going to use it because they'll miss
smileys from people that use the official MSN Messenger and
don't put spaces, and any official client for that mater.
So, ok, I agree in that we should make a survey of official
clients, and maybe make it an account option? I know the MSN
one recognizes smileys inside of words.
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Comment By: Etan Reisner (deryni9)
Date: 2005-01-31 07:37
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He has a valid point, his argument is that smileys contained
entirely within a word (or words) should not be scanned and
parsed as a smiley. I'm not at all sure how the official
clients handle this but I think a survey of them might not
be a bad idea. Regardless I don't see how having gaim only
translate smileys when they are at the beginning or end of a
word (but not both) would be problematic. (And besides if
people who regularly use smileys as word breaks get annoyed,
well maybe they'll just learn to use their spacebar then.)
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Comment By: Felipe Contreras (revo)
Date: 2005-01-30 19:54
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That's not true. Msn Messenger is even more annoying the
smiley is insterted exactly as you type.
With Gaim you can just disable smileys, so at least you have
an option.
Anyway, we could add a "Add smileys only in separated
words", but then you are going to miss smileys they send you
from practically any client, and people will be seeing
smileys you don't see.
So until other clients change their behaviour I don't see
why Gaim should do so.
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Comment By: WareKala (warekala)
Date: 2005-01-22 18:20
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Okay, gaim shouldn't be looking for smileys within words, as
some languages bend words using ":", for example finnish.
And such bending creates situations where gaim incorrectly
displays a smiley in the middle of a word destroying the
meaning of the sentence. I don't know about MSN Messenger,
but atleast the versions I have tried don't do the same.
They have this far only displayed the smiley when separated
from the rest of the word.
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Comment By: Luke Schierer (lschiere)
Date: 2005-01-22 12:52
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your theme contains a smiley define ":s" which is why that
does that. this is not wrong behavior, as there is no
garantee that someone would necessarily put a space on each
side of a given smiley.
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