Re: [galaxy-dev] Is the galaxy main toolshed compatible with local installs of galaxy-dist?

2012-07-21 Thread Greg Von Kuster
Hello Ira and Galaxy-dev followers,

Going forward from the current Galaxy release, mercurial change set revision 
ec29ce8e27a1 available in the Galaxy dist repository, the main Galaxy tool shed 
will track the Galaxy releases and the galaxy-dist repository on bitbucket.  
This announcement is included in the News Brief for the current Galaxy release 
- see http://wiki.g2.bx.psu.edu/DevNewsBriefs/2012_07_20.

Greg Von Kuster

On Jul 15, 2012, at 7:19 PM, Ira Cooke wrote:

> Hi Greg, 
> 
> Thanks very much for the clarification.  I'll just use a local toolshed for 
> now since there are not many tools we need to install.  When the official 
> policy changes it would be great if that could be flagged in the announcement 
> for a new release so we could start safely installing tools from the main 
> toolshed to our production instance.
> 
> Cheers
> Ira
> 

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Re: [galaxy-dev] Is the galaxy main toolshed compatible with local installs of galaxy-dist?

2012-07-15 Thread Ira Cooke
Hi Greg, 

Thanks very much for the clarification.  I'll just use a local toolshed for now 
since there are not many tools we need to install.  When the official policy 
changes it would be great if that could be flagged in the announcement for a 
new release so we could start safely installing tools from the main toolshed to 
our production instance.

Cheers
Ira



On 12/07/2012, at 8:54 PM, Greg Von Kuster wrote:

> Hi Ira,
> 
> Both public Galaxy tool sheds track Galaxy central, and not Galaxy dist.  
> This in unfortunate, but has been required over the past 2 years because the 
> development activity at both the tool shed end and the Galaxy end has been 
> extremely signifiant.  Since development changes in the Galaxy environment 
> must be compatible with development changes in the tool shed environment (and 
> vice versa) in order for the 2 entities to function together, it has been 
> impossible for the tool sheds to track the Galaxy dist repository, which 
> generally is 8 - 10 weeks behind the Galaxy central repository.
> 
> However, as the development of new features in the tool shed winds down 
> (we're at the edge of that happening), the compatibility of the 2 entities 
> becomes less of a problem.  I believe a new Galaxy releases is planned for 
> the near future, so dist will be compatible with the tool sheds (for a short 
> time).   However, issues may continue to crop up until the next dist release 
> 2 months from now that could force the tools sheds to continue to track 
> Galaxy central until that time.  It's fairly likely that after the next dist 
> release, maybe in September, that the tool sheds will able to begin tracking 
> Galaxy dist.  Ultimately that will happen, it's just a matter of when.  
> 
> I will, in fact, try to have the tool sheds track dist at this upcoming 
> release, but I cannot guarantee that fixes won't be necessary within the 8 to 
> 10 week time frame between dist updates.
> 
> Greg Von Kuster
> 
> On Jul 12, 2012, at 1:32 AM, Ira Cooke wrote:
> 
>> I was wondering whether the general policy is to keep the toolshed at 
>> toolshed.g2.bx.psu.edu compatible with galaxy-dist or galaxy-central. 
>> 
>> The reason I ask is that I went to install a tool from a production server 
>> I'm trying to setup based on galaxy-dist ... but got an error; 
>> 
>> The resource could not be found. 
>> No action for /admin_toolshed/prepare_for_install
>> 
>> Searching for this in the source code, I found that it exists in 
>> galaxy-central ... but not in galaxy-dist
>> 
>> Am I right in guessing that this error is due to toolshed.g2.bx.psu.edu 
>> being powered by a recent toolshed version that is incompatible with 
>> galaxy-dist?  If so, it would be great to get clarification as to whether 
>> this is to be expected in future.   My personal feeling is that the main 
>> toolshed would be much more useful if kept compatible with galaxy-dist.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Ira
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [galaxy-dev] Is the galaxy main toolshed compatible with local installs of galaxy-dist?

2012-07-12 Thread Greg Von Kuster
Hi Ira,

Both public Galaxy tool sheds track Galaxy central, and not Galaxy dist.  This 
in unfortunate, but has been required over the past 2 years because the 
development activity at both the tool shed end and the Galaxy end has been 
extremely signifiant.  Since development changes in the Galaxy environment must 
be compatible with development changes in the tool shed environment (and vice 
versa) in order for the 2 entities to function together, it has been impossible 
for the tool sheds to track the Galaxy dist repository, which generally is 8 - 
10 weeks behind the Galaxy central repository.

However, as the development of new features in the tool shed winds down (we're 
at the edge of that happening), the compatibility of the 2 entities becomes 
less of a problem.  I believe a new Galaxy releases is planned for the near 
future, so dist will be compatible with the tool sheds (for a short time).   
However, issues may continue to crop up until the next dist release 2 months 
from now that could force the tools sheds to continue to track Galaxy central 
until that time.  It's fairly likely that after the next dist release, maybe in 
September, that the tool sheds will able to begin tracking Galaxy dist.  
Ultimately that will happen, it's just a matter of when.  

I will, in fact, try to have the tool sheds track dist at this upcoming 
release, but I cannot guarantee that fixes won't be necessary within the 8 to 
10 week time frame between dist updates.

Greg Von Kuster

On Jul 12, 2012, at 1:32 AM, Ira Cooke wrote:

> I was wondering whether the general policy is to keep the toolshed at 
> toolshed.g2.bx.psu.edu compatible with galaxy-dist or galaxy-central. 
> 
> The reason I ask is that I went to install a tool from a production server 
> I'm trying to setup based on galaxy-dist ... but got an error; 
> 
> The resource could not be found. 
> No action for /admin_toolshed/prepare_for_install
> 
> Searching for this in the source code, I found that it exists in 
> galaxy-central ... but not in galaxy-dist
> 
> Am I right in guessing that this error is due to toolshed.g2.bx.psu.edu being 
> powered by a recent toolshed version that is incompatible with galaxy-dist?  
> If so, it would be great to get clarification as to whether this is to be 
> expected in future.   My personal feeling is that the main toolshed would be 
> much more useful if kept compatible with galaxy-dist.
> 
> Cheers
> Ira
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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