Hi David,
Thanks!
Your indel/pol point sounds very interesting - I've not thought of that before 
- and I'd be happy to talk indels a bit as I ought to be thinking about these a 
bit more (and because they can be mistaken for substitutions if one isn't 
careful)...
thanks,
Ben

On Apr 8, 2011, at 2:55 PM, David Matthews wrote:

> HI Ben,
> 
> Do not apologise, this is excellent guidance! I have been bumbling about with 
> pile up and your explanation makes it much clearer. I did not use BWA but 
> tophat instead so I'll give it a go with bwa and see if it makes a 
> difference. I'm off to a virology conference next week so I'm not sure how 
> much chance I'll get to work on it but many thanks again and once I do get my 
> teeth into it I'm sure I'll have some more questions - especially on the 
> stats front. On a related subject I am also looking at indels to see if the 
> virus has hotspots for transcription errors that may reflect a deliberate 
> attempt by the virus to modulate RNApolII function through secondary RNA 
> structure interfering with polII fidelity (I have no other evidence for this, 
> just a mad shot in the dark!). Have you ever looked at this either?
> 
> Best Wishes,
> David
> 
> On 8 Apr 2011, at 05:08, Benjamin Dickins wrote:
> 
>> Hi David,
>> I'm sorry for a slow response. Relatively recently I solved a problem a bit 
>> like this and would be happy to share more information with you. If your 
>> genome is small I think it makes sense to map to a reference and identify 
>> variant sites. (In my opinion de novo assembly isn't needed - see below).
>> 
>> A basic approach is: groom FASTA file -> map with BWA -> filter SAM 
>> (uniquely mapped reads only) -> SAM-to-BAM -> Generate pileup -> Filter 
>> pileup
>> 
>> This gives you a position-by-position summary relative to the reference. And 
>> that last step is important and needs the most care: you can have it print 
>> out differences total numbers of non-reference bases. I can share some 
>> information about thresholding how many of these constitute significant 
>> evidence that a non-reference base is actually there at that position 
>> (basically I use a binomial distribution and ask whether the distribution of 
>> ref/non-ref would occur by chance). Given that coverage of small genomes 
>> tends to be high, your first question about determining the actual genome 
>> sequence (or the quasispecies consensus if you prefer!) can be answered by 
>> majority rules: i.e., a small script (or with tools under "Text 
>> Manipulation" heading) to read off the base with the most support at each 
>> position and then to test whether that base == base in reference nucleotide 
>> column.
>> 
>> It's probably also worth thinking about PCR duplicates (from library prep) 
>> as these could be a significant source of error, but they are also tricky 
>> when many reads will be identical anyway in the input DNA.
>> 
>> Feel free to get in touch with me if you need a bit more clarity and/or some 
>> more specifics...
>> 
>> cheers,
>> Ben
>> 
>> On Apr 4, 2011, at 9:55 PM, Anton Nekrutenko wrote:
>> 
>>>> From: David Matthews <d.a.matth...@bristol.ac.uk>
>>>> Date: April 4, 2011 6:02:03 PM EDT
>>>> To: galaxy-user@lists.bx.psu.edu
>>>> Subject: [galaxy-user] Assemble a consensus genome from NGS data
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Does anyone know how to get a consensus genome from NGS data indicating 
>>>> the percent variance at each nucleotide? I have a small virus genome with 
>>>> manyfold coverage from my transcriptomic run. I'd like to know what the 
>>>> transcriptome indicates is the actual genome plus get a feel for any 
>>>> hotspots where there appears to be significant varience from the reference 
>>>> sequence (i.e. because the reference is wrong or perhaps because of 
>>>> frequent errors in that region due to RNA pol II having a problem 
>>>> accurately transcribing the sequence).
>>>> 
>>>> Many thanks!
>>>> 
>>>> David
>>>> 
>>>> 
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> 

Benjamin Dickins
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Center for Comparative Genomics and Bioinformatics
The Pennsylvania State University
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