Hi Darren,
Yeah, but John's idea of a software escro is the best solution to the
problem I have heard yet. The idea would allow for agreements to share
or distribute the software with the author/developer while they are
active, and the escro repository could then offer those files even if
the
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Web site with audio games?
Hi Darren,
Yeah, but John's idea of a software escro is the best solution to the
problem I have heard yet. The idea would allow for agreements to share
or distribute the software with the author/developer while they are
active
Hi Darren,
I agree with the point you raised if possible the author/developers
permission should attempt to be obtained before redistributing a title
which has been abandoned.
A case in point TJ is known to be ok to pass around because PB Games has
publically stated it and Dark Destroyer,
Hi Richard,
No it is not certainly black and white, but I do believe that it would
be best if permission can be obtained before offering abandonware. Allot
of times the licence agreement attached with the software will state
what should be done with the software.It is also something that should
Hi John,
Yes, exactly. A developer has to be careful about putting something in
the public domain. For example, I liked Dark Destroyer by PB Games.
Since it is now technically public domain I could write a clone version
and sell it or at least offer it as a free download.
However, even though
Hi Darren,
What you are talking about is called intellectual property rights. In
the Communist view everything should be communal property, and there is
no such thing as individual property or wealth. It is a popular idea,
especially in the open source movement, that believe software
Hi Marsha,
The expiration on a copyright really depends on the country in question.
Generally, I think 50 years is pretty average world wide unless of
course the copyright hasn't been renewed.
I've seen this many times for example an older book that is copyrighted
in the USA is now public
Hi Ron,
In the case you mentioned where all efforts fail I'd probably go ahead
to, but leave open the option to take it down if the author or owner
makes a formal request to do so.
Just from an observation here, but I suspect most audio games aren't
copyrighted anyway. Allot of them probably
Hi Shaun,
It is true usually there is a good reason why game x is abandoned by the
developer. For example, take Giftinum. It was an ok game, but it could
have been written allot better. In the scheme of things it left much to
be desired for me.
Self-destruct was not really that much of a big
There is a software legal concept called escrow where software can be
archived and unavailable until some accepted triggering event.
In the commercial realm, we use that to ensure that some piece of
third-party software is available if the vendor goes out of business.
Perhaps Richard's group,
Hi,
A software escrow repository would rock. Yes, that would insure the
software would have a long shelf life long after the developer quits,
goes out of business, abandons project x, etc...
John Bannick wrote:
There is a software legal concept called escrow where software can be
archived
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Subject: [Audyssey] Web site with audio games?
Hi all,
I'd like to mention a problem which I think we as audio and blind gamers
should really take seriously and somehow solve. The problem is this: we
must have some sort of central site which houses abandonware
, October 19, 2007 1:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Web site with audio games?
Hi,
This certainly doesn't happen for mainstream gaming unless you go to
various pirate sites. Why would the developers keep old stuff? Whilst I
see what you are saying and do apreciate it, at the same time, unless
I aggree arrie.
We do need a site where some of the abandonware can be put up.
Some of the games you mention can be got from the soundrts site
indirectly, as the german downloads site that stores one of the
soundpacks for soundrts has most of the games.
At 08:04 p.m. 19/10/2007, you wrote:
Hi
At 08:04 p.m. 19/10/2007, you wrote:
Hi all,
I'd like to mention a problem which I think we as audio and blind
gamers should really take seriously and somehow solve. The problem
is this: we must have some sort of central site which houses
abandonware of our games. This is, not just so that we
, October 19, 2007 4:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Web site with audio games?
Hi Darren,
I understand the issues with piracy pretty well. But I'd like to bring
forward this point:
If a free demo, like The Blind Eye, that used to be available for download
for free, can now not be downloaded because
you guys have good points all round.
At 10:11 p.m. 19/10/2007, you wrote:
Ari et al,
As a commercial game developer, we can't put our games in the public
domain, else we lose our intellectual property rights.
What that means in practice is that by giving the people you want free
access, you
then you effectively abanden all rights to that game or piece of
software
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Hi all,
I'd like to mention
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Web site with audio games?
Hi Ari,
AudioGames.net is in my opinion a perfect spot for this. In the past we
already hosted several abandoned games like The Blind Eye, but with
changes
in the site, many links became obsolete. However, we do keep a database
Hi
What is the timeline for a copyright? Do some of these absentee game
developers even remember about their games?
Marsha
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Well no I wouldn't personally, but then again I am happy to download
several types of audio material from various sites on the net which I
won't mention here for fear of breaking some list rule or something.
You are quite correct that piracy isn't so black and white, but then
again here's a few
Incidentally, I just fixed the download link of The Blind Eye...
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Web site with audio games?
Hi Ari
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Web site with audio games?
Hi,
This certainly doesn't happen for mainstream gaming unless you go to
various pirate sites. Why would the developers keep old stuff? Whilst I
see what you are saying and do
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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 9:04 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Web site with audio games?
Hi all,
I'd like to mention a problem which I think we as audio and blind gamers
should really take seriously and somehow solve. The problem is this: we
must have
list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 3:04 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Web site with audio games?
Hi all,
I'd like to mention a problem which I think we as audio and blind gamers
should really take seriously and somehow solve. The problem is this: we
must have some sort of central
Ari et al,
As a commercial game developer, we can't put our games in the public
domain, else we lose our intellectual property rights.
What that means in practice is that by giving the people you want free
access, you also give other people, and companies, the right to steal your
stuff. Not
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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 1:04 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Web site with audio games?
Hi all,
I'd like to mention a problem which I think we as audio and blind gamers
should really take seriously and somehow solve. The problem is this: we
must have some sort of central site which
Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 4:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Web site with audio games?
Hi Ari,
AudioGames.net is in my opinion a perfect spot for this. In the past we
already hosted several abandoned games like The Blind Eye, but with
changes
in the site
Hi all,
I'd like to mention a problem which I think we as audio and blind gamers should
really take seriously and somehow solve. The problem is this: we must have some
sort of central site which houses abandonware of our games. This is, not just
so that we can access them later if we need to,
objects to their abandoned game being available for download
through AudioGames.net, please also email me :)
Greets,
Richard
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