I've noticed a trend with Microsoft operating systems. Windows 3.1 was terrible, the next version fixed a lot of the problems but had problems of it's own, which were fixed in the next version that had bugs of it's own, and so it continues even today. Remember Windows ME? Rushed onto the market too quickly and really turned a lot of people off. Windows 7 was to have been the cure, and Windows 8 was to have been the cure for 7, and now 8.1 is the band-aid for 8.0.

Apple, apparently, does it's homework before selling us the test papers, and only minor corrections are needed to fix the mistakes. When OS7 came out for iDevices, it actually wasn't all that long until the major flaws for Voice-Over users were ironed out. It wasn't very long after 7.0 was released that 7.4 was released, and it's working pretty well.

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question


Hi Tom.

to be honest I don't agree with you about microsoft simply because of the money involved. on xp I can run programs for dos written in qbasic, C and goodness knows what from 20 years ago. That is a huge corpus of material. Up to xp microsoft had a care for all that legacy support which is why I can download copies of even something like the dos version of hunt the wumpus from 1978 and run it.

You could write a program in basic and it'd be fine on xp today, just as was the original plan for Eamon deluxe.

With post xp windows however microsoft are following a model of upgrade or else to both devs and users alike, and no, I don't accept the arguement that microsoft couldn't include this support indeed the fact that they've seen the light with respect to vb6 shows that they could and were just being money grubbing with their phase out, (you yourself admit the price for all the vb net stuff).

With games, well it's not just the case of running or not running so much as capabilities. A developer like Jim kitchin who has worked in vb6 for years, well what bennifits are there to him to running vb net other than the extra harrassment caused by microsoft and the need to buy new vb net tools. Also, would Jim Kitchin's games be any better for using vb net or another programming language than using vb 6? ---- I don't kow, not being a programmer but that is also a question which needs answering.

Ultimately it comes down as I said to bennifits. Whichever way you cut the cookie upgrading is a hassle, and a hassle which microsoft have only made worse with their buggered up interface and lack of compatibility, a fact which I'm glad to see they are at least recognizing with their including of vb6 support (I've heard lots of stories of things not working on windows 8 so it's good that microsoft are finally seeing some sense at least).

To your stand off question well to be honest as I said if microsoft had done a better job with windows 7 we wouldn't be having this conversation. Maybe windows 8, maybe windows 9, maybe a future version will be better. I'm confident enough myself that something better than xp will! come along in the future which will make myself and others change, ---- but until then well if people keep using xp and developers keep writing for it, what is so wrong with that?

it's like laser disks and dvds. Back in the mid 1990's, I knew someone who had bought a new laser disk system. He claimed the video and sound were better, and all the technical bits were there and asked why I and other still used video.

We said we used video becuase there were still more good films on video to watch than laserdisk, even though laserdisk was technically a better format.

Of course 10 or so years later, and dvd replaced video, and myself and everyone else got to change our videos for dvds because there are now much better and cheaper films available on dvd than video, and most things that were originally video have been ported to dvd, ---- and laserdisk has fallen by the way side, however had we migrated to laserdisk just because it was technically better we'd have not been any better off now.

Beware the grue!

Dark.

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