Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers

2012-06-08 Thread Jim Kitchen
Mahjong Hi Thomas, It's been so long since I was a kid that I don't even know what games you would like to see made accessible. The only game that I have that I put Braille on is Up Words. I like it better than Scrabble even though it is similar. I of course have decks of cards and have

Re: [Audyssey] tennis

2012-06-08 Thread Jim Kitchen
anyone? Hi Charles, Speaking of bowling, I could never get used to using a bowling rail. Always wanted to try putting a beeper in the right channel for a bit of targeting help. Maybe even a beeper in both channels. But the only bowling that I have done for a long time is WII sports resorts

Re: [Audyssey] tennis, anyone?

2012-06-08 Thread Jorge Gonçalves
I would love to try this blind tennis. I absolutely love tennis. By the way I will now listen the semifinnals of Rolandgarros in Radio Rolandgarros. Cheers, Jorge Gonçalves jopo...@hotmail.com Skype: joport3 Twitter: www.twitter.com/goncalvesjorge Webpage: www.jorgegoncalves.com On 6/8/2012

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers

2012-06-08 Thread dark
Hi Jim. I've also seen the Hacu peg based game. in addition, i've seen tactile ludo (which i believe is called parcheesy in the states), and backgammon, in fact I just got a backgammon board recently. I however would love to see some of the more serious board games aimed at adults made

Re: [Audyssey] tennis, anyone?

2012-06-08 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ryan, I don't know that we need a new sport, but we need to involve more sighted players in the sports we do have. What I mean by that is beeper baseball is very much like regular baseball accept we have beepers for the baseball and bases. There is no reason we couldn't have sighted players

Re: [Audyssey] tennis, anyone?

2012-06-08 Thread michael barnes
Hey, Thomas. I agree with you, as a former Beep Baseball player the playing field is equal for both blind and sighted people. However most sighted people don't like playing games sports or even listen to audio described videos, the reason is they want to be able to see the things that they are

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers

2012-06-08 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jim, Well, I'm not a kid myself, but I do play a lot of board games. I've several board games that simply are not available from the blind rehab centers and I think would be enjoyable if they were made accessible. For example, I've got this one game made in the 80's or 90's called Hotels. Its

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers

2012-06-08 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Hero Quest and Talisman rock. However, as you said they are difficult to play simply because there are no accessible boards available. Its precisely that kind of game aimed at young to middle aged adults I'd love to see available in accessible format. Not only that but there are games

Re: [Audyssey] tennis, anyone?

2012-06-08 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Michael, Yeah, but there is a world of difference between audio games and beeper baseball. Most audio games don't contain graphics which most sighted people, like it or not, insist on having. With beeper baseball they can see the ball and we can here it. So that helps even out the

Re: [Audyssey] tennis, anyone?

2012-06-08 Thread michael barnes
Hey, Thomas. In the NBBA which stands for National Beep Baseball Association, has a rules strick rules I may add. One of the rules is anytime a fielder and batter gets on the field they have to wear a blindfold. The reason for this rule is to make it fair to all players because when they

Re: [Audyssey] tennis, anyone?

2012-06-08 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Michael, Ah, I didn't know that although it makes sense. Of course, rules like that are why sighted players will not play sports with blind players because most of them are not use to playing games like baseball via sound alone and actually have a disadvantage when blind folded. We forget that

Re: [Audyssey] tennis, anyone?

2012-06-08 Thread Ryan Strunk
Hi Tom, You might be familiar with a different style of beep baseball than I am. The version I'm familiar with has a sighted pitcher and a sighted catcher, both of whom are on the batter's team. When the batter hits a ball, he has to run directly to either third or first base before the people in

Re: [Audyssey] tennis, anyone?

2012-06-08 Thread Ryan Strunk
Hi Steady, That's kind of my point, though. I want to know what the answer is to the fact that the rules are different for people with varying levels of sight. I can't help but think that if the rules have to bend like that, then maybe the sport isn't worth adapting. What I want to know is if

[Audyssey] Friday's Out-Of-Sight events

2012-06-08 Thread Charles Rivard
Here are the events scheduled for Friday, June 8th: Smart Alec 8:00 PM eastern Hosted by Julie and Sherry Location: Game Zone Join Julie and Sherry tonight in the Game Zone. We will be hosting a fun and challenging game of Smart Alec. This is a team game of Who am I, what am I, or where am I.

Re: [Audyssey] tennis, anyone?

2012-06-08 Thread Charles Rivard
With no adaptive or assistive equipment, what are your average bowling scores? How do you keep a straight approach? I'm interested. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion

[Audyssey] board games for the blind - Re: Accessible Checkers

2012-06-08 Thread Charles Rivard
Now if the board games that are produced were less expensive! $75 for a Monopoly set? $60 or so for Scrabble? How much does a game of similar quality cost for sighted gamers? --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward

Re: [Audyssey] tennis, anyone?

2012-06-08 Thread Charles Rivard
If they can see the ball and the defensive players, they not only know when or whether to swing, but they can time their swing to hit it where the defensive players are not positioned. They can also see where the base is, and run directly to it without accidentally running past it. So, while

Re: [Audyssey] tennis, anyone?

2012-06-08 Thread Charles Rivard
It takes a long time to get good at it. That's why teams should hold practice sessions. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, June

Re: [Audyssey] tennis, anyone?

2012-06-08 Thread Charles Rivard
How about a beeper attached to a stake for pitching horse shoes? I've been thinking about that one. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Ryan Strunk ryan.str...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent:

Re: [Audyssey] tennis, anyone?

2012-06-08 Thread Scott Chesworth
Everything Ryan wrote below is right on the money IMHO. Going on the personal experiences of training a partially sighted chap and witnessing a fully sighted team play though, I'd say that perhaps Goalball is the closest thing I've found to an exception. The team made up of fully sighted dudes

Re: [Audyssey] tennis, anyone?

2012-06-08 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ryan, Honestly I don't know. Keep in mind I wasn't born blind, lost my sight well into my teens, so really didn't spend much time with organized beeper baseball. My experience is simply playing it in gym class with other blind students and hearsay from others who were involved with organized

Re: [Audyssey] tennis, anyone?

2012-06-08 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Charles, About my average scores I don't know. I don't keep track of that sort of thing. I haven't even played for a couple years in any case. As far as keeping a straight approach I just ask my wife or someone to help line me up and then I attempt to bowl the ball in that direction. As long

Re: [Audyssey] tennis, anyone?

2012-06-08 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ryan, HmmmI've never had a problem playing air hockey. In fact, I consider it rather accessible as is. I've beaten several sighted players at air hockey and I'm totally blind. Is this not the case for other blind players? As for how I play air hockey I can hear the puck sliding around

[Audyssey] What other gamepads are there that will work for us?

2012-06-08 Thread Ron Kolesar
Ok, as everyone knows I submited a letter to this list to see if anyone would want my two f510s. Now looking for a newer better gamepad and or stick that will work with the Three D Velocity and the games from Blind software,especially the pipe version two Blast Chamber which I was a beta tester

Re: [Audyssey] board games for the blind - Re: Accessible Checkers

2012-06-08 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Charles, Definitely much less. I think a standard version of Monopoly goes for $20 and sometimes cost a little more if it is a promotional version. I once saw a Monopoly set for $40, but what made it so expensive is that it was electronic. What I mean by that is you could put batteries in the

Re: [Audyssey] tennis, anyone?

2012-06-08 Thread dark
I'm not sure how it is in other countries, but the main problem i've seen with organized blind sports in Britain is the Blind Cleaque mentality. I'm not sure if this applies to all sports, but certainly in chess and goalball it's pretty dire. I once looked at joing the local goalball team,

Re: [Audyssey] tennis, anyone?

2012-06-08 Thread Ben
I'll probably expand on this more, but I'm a blind cricket player and in short I've seen that clique mentality when I captained 2 goalball teams to victory - we got beaten by a side of girls who were older than us and who had been playing together for 7 years at least and they wer so braggy about

Re: [Audyssey] What other gamepads are there that will work for us?

2012-06-08 Thread Charles Rivard
I would see no need for using a game pad to play Tenpin Alley. The keyboard works perfectly for that game and has all you need. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com To: Audyssey

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers

2012-06-08 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi Thomas and Dark, You know having no kids or sighted spouse, I have not been exposed to the board games etc that are out recently. I have not bought a game in like 30 years, and that was Up Words that later I put braille on. As a kid we as a family we played games like Life, Monopoly,

Re: [Audyssey] bowling blind - Re: tennis

2012-06-08 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi Charles, Yeah, I never really have had a chance to see if beepers would help if I had them in the gutters. Your 110 sounds like a pretty darn nice average. I think that totally blind I have had a hard time making 100. BFN Jim Shopping tip: You can get shoes for 85 cents at the

Re: [Audyssey] board games for the blind - Re: Accessible Checkers

2012-06-08 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi Charles and all, I am curious, who decides what games to make accessible. I mean is it the original manufactures of the games, or do some of the blind organizations get together and commission for the games to be made accessible or what? And then who does set the price of them? BFN

Re: [Audyssey] tennis, anyone?

2012-06-08 Thread dark
Hi Ben. Unfortunately my experience of cricket was not good, sinse other than playing in P.E. in school, the only other time I played was at one of the chess championships when several blind people started a cricket match, ostensibly for fun, but essentially they were all from the same blind

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers

2012-06-08 Thread dark
Hi Jim. at least in my case, it's not really the standard board games that bothered me. My parents brailled see how they run, the house that jack built and other games, and we regularly played life, ratrace or braille monopoly. The problem I have now is a lot of my friends play the sort of

Re: [Audyssey] bowling blind - Re: tennis

2012-06-08 Thread bpeterson2000
I know I never have. Life, don't talk to me about life. -Original Message- From: Jim Kitchen Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 3:49 PM To: Charles Rivard Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bowling blind - Re: tennis Hi Charles, Yeah, I never really have had a chance to see if beepers would help if

Re: [Audyssey] board games for the blind - Re: Accessible Checkers

2012-06-08 Thread dark
As I understand it, in this country it's the rnib who pretty much rule everything with an iron fist. They commission someone to make the accessible versions of the games, get the copywrites, and then distribute them themselves, and sinse the government agencies will always put newly blind

Re: [Audyssey] tennis, anyone?

2012-06-08 Thread Charles Rivard
Doesn't the noise of the table and the sound of the sticks hitting the puck overpower the noise of the sliding puck? Although I helped build tables, I've never tried the game, but would like to. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message -

Re: [Audyssey] tennis, anyone?

2012-06-08 Thread Ian McNamara
Hi, I do not like it when people just do sports and set up clubs, not really looking for new members. I had this experience with a local shooting club which i was going to join, the problem is there is no structure and they went to one place looking for members and did not advertise the club so