Re: [Audyssey] Back again!
On 11/26/06, Ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Furthermore, a very exciting thing happened about which I'd like some advice. I went to a disability exhibition, and on display there is a prototype of a notetaker using Debian-based Linux with Speakup. What I'd like to know is, does anyone know where I can find text-based games which work under Debian Linux? Ari I would do a search on http://freshmeat.net for text game. Most (All?) games there are GPL so you should be able to compile them or download a .deb file if there is one available. Infocom has made a whole bunch of cool text games. You can get a z-machine interpreter from http://www.csd.uwo.ca/Infocom/ and a game package of 20 games is sold on http://underworld.fortunecity.com/track/946/ . The easiest way of installing a z-machine interpreter on Debian would be to type apt-get install frotz since there is a package for it in the APT system. Rgds, Adam http://wormhole.se ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] text games under Linux
I use frotz for inform and z-code games. I use frob for tads games, and I use scare for Adrift games. All of these are run under Linux. Unfortunately there are no rpm packages I found for these so I had to compile by hand and install which is no biggy. There is also one called agil which is to play agt games but I have not played agt games in a long while. Hope this helps. -- Watch ye and pray, lest ye enter into temptation. The spirit truly is ready, but the flesh is weak. -- Mark 14:38 Raul A. Gallegos ... IliwSsmc ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista?
Hi guys, I don't know whether this has been discussed while I was away, but I'd like to tell you guys about this interesting article I read in a computer magazine about gaming on Windows Vista. First, DirectX 10 will only be made to support Vista. Another thing is that, not knowing if I understood the article properly, but some old games that work on XP won't work on Vista. I'd like to know has anyone else heard anything about gaming on Vista and are there positive/negative things for us? Ari ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Beach volleyball anyone?
sadly your probably right liam. I have played lords saldom after testing. I always go for future tests though. I never completed the supersport game due to computer problems. Beech vollyball was ok. At 09:39 AM 11/27/2006, Liam Erven wrote: I like the games, but I won't be buying them. I feel the net play is very shaky. It uses peer to peer which just won't work. There are two many times when someone may be at a school or somewhere where the required ports aren't opened. Three days is simply not enough time. Finally, neither beach ball or bowling are really replayable. Bowling is concentration with out the prizes, and beach ball is just a hyped of version of super tennis or super football with out all the crazy rules. - Original Message - From: Dark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 2:32 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Beach volleyball anyone? Hi. I've just downloaded the game and wouldn't mind a game with someone (i'll probably lose abyssmally, but well hay!). anyway, I'm sitting on the server right this second, my logue in is 666. I'd also like to see if it's possible to connect through the evil university security system of doom! So if someone wants a game, we'll have to see which works better, you connecting to me or visa versa. Hope to have a game soon. I decided against buying the other Vip sports titles, because I didn't find playing against the computer too interesting(after three days, I could successfully wipe the floor with the comp on Super football at super difficulty), but from what people have said, I imagine playing across the net is a more interesting experience. thanks. Beware the Grue! dark. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Beach volleyball anyone?
I like Lords just for the sound effects and monster shooting, and have occasionally pulled it out for another blast, as I've done with galaxy ranger. My only problem in both games, (and more so in ranger), is that the computer isn't exactly the most intelligent of opponents. In ranger it always attacks along the same line, so all I do is stick a tank on that line to pick off the soldiers, and let my guns and rockits do for any tanks and crusers it might send (though generally I don't find the computer is too good at attacking in force anyway). this is why I would so much like to play a ranger game against a human, - but sadly it appears even when I find someone on the server, Durham university network puts pay to any chance I have of connecting with them (or them with me). funny bowling is an interesting battleships varient, but again, I'm not convinced how much fun it is playing against the comp as compared to an actual person whome you can double bluff etc. As I said, I didn't particularly find any of the other sports games too interesting to play (well, against the computer at any rate). but sport isn't particularly my thing anyway, so factors like atmosphere that have interested me in other games (pirate memory game for example), don't really apply here, or at least not for me. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: shaun everiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Cc: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 9:16 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Beach volleyball anyone? sadly your probably right liam. I have played lords saldom after testing. I always go for future tests though. I never completed the supersport game due to computer problems. Beech vollyball was ok. At 09:39 AM 11/27/2006, Liam Erven wrote: I like the games, but I won't be buying them. I feel the net play is very shaky. It uses peer to peer which just won't work. There are two many times when someone may be at a school or somewhere where the required ports aren't opened. Three days is simply not enough time. Finally, neither beach ball or bowling are really replayable. Bowling is concentration with out the prizes, and beach ball is just a hyped of version of super tennis or super football with out all the crazy rules. - Original Message - From: Dark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 2:32 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Beach volleyball anyone? Hi. I've just downloaded the game and wouldn't mind a game with someone (i'll probably lose abyssmally, but well hay!). anyway, I'm sitting on the server right this second, my logue in is 666. I'd also like to see if it's possible to connect through the evil university security system of doom! So if someone wants a game, we'll have to see which works better, you connecting to me or visa versa. Hope to have a game soon. I decided against buying the other Vip sports titles, because I didn't find playing against the computer too interesting(after three days, I could successfully wipe the floor with the comp on Super football at super difficulty), but from what people have said, I imagine playing across the net is a more interesting experience. thanks. Beware the Grue! dark. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista?
Hi Ari, Mind you not all of what I am about to say here I am totally sure about, but I've been looking over the beta sdks for Vista and it is going to prove to be quite a bit different from the 98/2000/XP era of Windows. First major change, from a programming standpoint, is that most of the sdks and apps will be gueard for Visual Studio .NET 2005 and later versions. Vista's Platform SDK will be shipping with .NET Framework 3 which has some drastic upgrades including a new version of MS SAPI which is fully managed. Meaning, that Sapi will be compatible with .NET Framework applications. Also the Vista Platform SDK contains a new approach to accessibility which is going to replace MSAA in the future, or probably will at any rate. The DirectX 10 SDK appears to be geared totally for the managed .NET Framework coder, and not giving much backward compatibility to older games using DirectX 7 and 8. The point here Microsoft is making a clear drive to get developers to comply with Visual Studio 2005, use one of the .NET languages, and stop monkeying around with VB 6 and other older languages, and get with the program. Grin. Of course, the core of Vista isn't the only consideration. The entire look and feel of Vista is, well, weird. I will say it is more designed around a web-centric roll with Internet Exploder 7 practically running the background, in your face, and waiting for you to jump on the web. For example XP has had this feature, but Vista has magnified it you can clear away all your icons on your desktop and make it one massive web page. In short if you are on cable your home page, www.someplace.com, can be your desktop, and the web is no further than your desktop. Of course, your desktop has the usual task bars etc but now you have this ugly media bar with stock tickers, weather reports, etc running in the background happily updating away. As I said Vista is very web-centric, and if you are not web connected Vista might break down, cry, and then crash. Ha, ha, just joking. Vista also has a more 3D look and feel than any other os to date. Probably, one of the major reasons it needs a very modern processor and lots of ram to run smoothly. I have heard that visually many apps such as office 2007 are suppose to look quite different. The menu bars are going to be replaced by a menu strip, some tool bars added, and I am sure that little twerp, my arch enemy, the enemy of my computer, the dread of dreads,, Mr. Office Assistant will have some new and stupid looking looks and animation. Lol! By the way, does anyone else hate that little goof ball? I mean ever since his intro in Office 97 I never got use to him. He pops up so much and is so annoying I named him Q after the Star Trek character. Instead of Captain Picard saying, Q, get off my bridge, my version kind of goes like, Q, get off my screen. Ah, but I digress. Anyway, I have heard there are visual differences in the ways apps look, buttons look, icons, etc, and most of that is of the real question about games. So I will summarize quickly what I think is going to be the case. However, this is a guess only not fact. Games written with .NET in mind STFC, Rail racer, Monty will certainly work well as they are employing early versions of the technologies that are a core of Vista. If problems are encountered they can be easily updated to meet the challenge. Games designed on an unmanaged version of DirectX such 7 and 8 may have a tougher time as I have heard, not prove, that Vista might be dropping 8 support. If true any games, engines, based in languages like VB 6 would be stuck where they are, and remain there until updated to VB.NET 2005 and DirectX 9/10. Point here is that Microsoft is moving on even if the agdev community is not and it is one reason I urge new developers not to try VB 6, and start out in the dark ages of programming, and start out fresh with what is current, cutting edge, because by the time tomorrow comes what you know will be the standard. I will leave it to others to prove or disprove weather or not DirectX 8 support is being dropped, but I have heard it from a somewhat reliable source. Bottom line, developers may need to update to support Vista. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] sryth
Hi Everyone, does anyone know how the blessings of protection work? If you do know how they work can you please explain to me how to use them. I bought three blessings of protection and went into galarack's tomb and tried using them and got killed any way. my melee rating is at 47 and my stamina is at 62. thanks for any help. Please feel free to email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sincerely, Steve Cullen ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista?
I'd actually also heard something about many games that were made for XP will not work under Vista. The thing I'm trying to get at, is, if there is no support for older versions of DirectX, and if the new games will then not work under old windows versions, the message to us is clear? Adapt or die. I mean, old games like gma's games and others will not work under Vista, and, what's even worse is would those of us using XP and older versions of Windows then have to upgrade to Vista to play new games that come out? How are developers of accessible games going to adapt to Vista? By the way, from what you tell me about the whole thing being a sort of web interface, it sounds awful! At the university, some people use the Active Desktop in Windows, I can't stand it! I also don't like these web interfaces like the help system where you try and move round and round in a circle of links! Ari - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista? Hi Ari, Mind you not all of what I am about to say here I am totally sure about, but I've been looking over the beta sdks for Vista and it is going to prove to be quite a bit different from the 98/2000/XP era of Windows. First major change, from a programming standpoint, is that most of the sdks and apps will be gueard for Visual Studio .NET 2005 and later versions. Vista's Platform SDK will be shipping with .NET Framework 3 which has some drastic upgrades including a new version of MS SAPI which is fully managed. Meaning, that Sapi will be compatible with .NET Framework applications. Also the Vista Platform SDK contains a new approach to accessibility which is going to replace MSAA in the future, or probably will at any rate. The DirectX 10 SDK appears to be geared totally for the managed .NET Framework coder, and not giving much backward compatibility to older games using DirectX 7 and 8. The point here Microsoft is making a clear drive to get developers to comply with Visual Studio 2005, use one of the .NET languages, and stop monkeying around with VB 6 and other older languages, and get with the program. Grin. Of course, the core of Vista isn't the only consideration. The entire look and feel of Vista is, well, weird. I will say it is more designed around a web-centric roll with Internet Exploder 7 practically running the background, in your face, and waiting for you to jump on the web. For example XP has had this feature, but Vista has magnified it you can clear away all your icons on your desktop and make it one massive web page. In short if you are on cable your home page, www.someplace.com, can be your desktop, and the web is no further than your desktop. Of course, your desktop has the usual task bars etc but now you have this ugly media bar with stock tickers, weather reports, etc running in the background happily updating away. As I said Vista is very web-centric, and if you are not web connected Vista might break down, cry, and then crash. Ha, ha, just joking. Vista also has a more 3D look and feel than any other os to date. Probably, one of the major reasons it needs a very modern processor and lots of ram to run smoothly. I have heard that visually many apps such as office 2007 are suppose to look quite different. The menu bars are going to be replaced by a menu strip, some tool bars added, and I am sure that little twerp, my arch enemy, the enemy of my computer, the dread of dreads,, Mr. Office Assistant will have some new and stupid looking looks and animation. Lol! By the way, does anyone else hate that little goof ball? I mean ever since his intro in Office 97 I never got use to him. He pops up so much and is so annoying I named him Q after the Star Trek character. Instead of Captain Picard saying, Q, get off my bridge, my version kind of goes like, Q, get off my screen. Ah, but I digress. Anyway, I have heard there are visual differences in the ways apps look, buttons look, icons, etc, and most of that is of the real question about games. So I will summarize quickly what I think is going to be the case. However, this is a guess only not fact. Games written with .NET in mind STFC, Rail racer, Monty will certainly work well as they are employing early versions of the technologies that are a core of Vista. If problems are encountered they can be easily updated to meet the challenge. Games designed on an unmanaged version of DirectX such 7 and 8 may have a tougher time as I have heard, not prove, that Vista might be dropping 8 support. If true any games, engines, based in languages like VB 6 would be stuck where they are, and remain there until updated to VB.NET 2005 and DirectX 9/10. Point here is that Microsoft is moving on even if the agdev community is not and it is one reason I urge new developers not to try VB 6, and start out in the dark ages of programming, and start out fresh with what is current,
Re: [Audyssey] sryth
They work just like using an item. When you use one, you will be rendered invulnerable for two or three rounds. If you wish to remain invulnerable, however, you must use another one immediately after those rounds are over. - Original Message - From: Steve Cullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 1:10 PM Subject: [Audyssey] sryth Hi Everyone, does anyone know how the blessings of protection work? If you do know how they work can you please explain to me how to use them. I bought three blessings of protection and went into galarack's tomb and tried using them and got killed any way. my melee rating is at 47 and my stamina is at 62. thanks for any help. Please feel free to email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sincerely, Steve Cullen ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista?
Hi Ari, The entire problem with Vista for us is that Microsoft is being very silent and tight jawed about Vista except what they want you to know. I've only managed to find out tidbits through talking to other devs who have tested it, and stuff I read between the lines on the Vista Platform SDK. However The message I have recieved through the info I have heard and read so far is the message they have quietly implied to us is the adapt or die attitude. In some ways I can't blame them as they have been running the same old libraries for ages, and now the new platform SDK is completely new and different. That is why many programs and even games or going to die when Vista comes out. Naturally, Vista games will not be backward compatible unless the company is using the .NET Framework which is backward compatible to any operating system that uses the same framework, and in the case of games DirectX as well. I do know they will be releasing .NET Framework 3.0 for Win 2000, XP, and Windows Server 2003, sometime next year so those operating systems will have some compatibility with Vista for sure. 95, 98, ME apps will be dead. As for DirectX 10 I believe it will bre backward compatible with DirectX 9.0 managed. I specified managed which is he .NET version of the DirectX libraries. 9.0 had 8.0 compatibility libs for say VB 6, Visual C++ 6, etc, but Microsoft has discontinued support for Visual Studio 98, which is 6.0, and you can expect anything written in that era of languages are going to die a quick death if they don't adapt soon. I saw this coming in 20904 and started off with .NET to get ahead of the screaming that will accompany the old line VB 6 devs if Vista doesn't support those apps. The good news our accessible game developers are slowly but surely moving to C#.NET or VB.NET. I know Justin knows VB.NET, Che knows VB.NET, Josh I think went to C#.NET, I believe it was Liam playing with VB.NET a little bit, I am using C#.NET for all my titles, and that is a good sign that developers are in the process of making the switch. However, the status of our older titles will have to wait for Vista to come out. Perhaps it is not as bad as we think it will be, and it could be worse than we think. I know most of the games for accessible games are VB 6 like the Kitchens Inc games, the GMA Game Engine, Lone Wolf, Trek 2000, Liam's Games, and plenty of others, and if Vista doesn't have proper support for those older apps those games are going to crash, and the accessible gaming market will come to a screaming hault in that event. Either way, Vista is probably going to be a highly expensive upgrade for the accessibility community. We will have to upgrade to the latest screen readers as I have been told for a fact that anything, I do mean anything older, than the latest Jaws or Window eyes will not run on Vista and work properly. That is tough as I know people still running Jaws 4.5 and 5.0 on XP, Window Eyes 4.2, and so on and they will be paying through the nose to fully upgrade screen readers to run with the thing. If, I mean if, many accessible games don't work, need to be rewitten, I can imagine upgrade or repurchase prices would be in order for the work involved in porting them to the new operating system which would have to be done sooner or later to maintain some kind of value. Else will end up like the old dos games fforgotten and unplayed. I can see several other programs requiring updates, and the entire upgrade becoming an investment. However, XP still has allot of life in it and even though Vista will hit the seen next year there is nothing wrong in holding to XP for a couple of more years buying the necessary upgrades one at a time, and of course wait for the accessible games to test and figure out if the products will work on Vista or not. All of this is pretty much the hypathetical long view on my part. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] randomising
Should send this off to All in Play.
I keep getting the same cards. Smiles.
Their three lines of code that they show on their site, don't account for
waiting. They don't want to admit the trueth about getting a random number
from what time it is.
Thanks for your code on how to randomize a value Tom.
Gary
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From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] randomising
Hi Nicol,
Nicol wrote:
I would very much like to know how its possible for the computer to
randomise.
End Quote
Well, actually it isn't very complex, but you will have rto write a
function which does a few things such as seed the randomize function you
are making with the computers time, select a number, and then return it
to the variable calling it. In C#.NET a function to randomly select a
random number would look like this. Make sure say all punctuation is on
and your message window is maximized.
public int RandomNumber(int low, int high)
{
// First we need a temperary random seed object
// to seed our generator.
Random seed = new Random();
// Now, we will advance the seed with the system time
// and store it in the time variable.
int time = seed.Next();
// At this point we will create a random object for
// randomly generating numbers,
// and seed it with the time.
Random select = new Random(time);
// Now, we will select a number from the low and high numbers,
// and then add 1.
int number = select.Next(low, high) + 1;
// Return our random number.
return number;
}
A couple of notes is in .net apps you can also make an call to the
active thread to sleep or wait for so many milliseconds so as to allow
the time on the clock to change. Without changing the time you will
return the same number over and over again. To pause the thread in C#
.net you would use
Thread.Sleep(10;
which would grab the active thread and pause it for 10 ms.
So to use this function it would look like
Thread.Sleep(10);
dice1 = RandomNumber(1, 6);
Thread.Sleep(10);
dice2 = RandomNumber(1, 6);
Which would roll to dice for you and all you need from there is display
or do something based on the dice roll.
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Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista?
Hi Liam, Yeah, I usually wait as well. I wait for the dust to settle and for the issues to be discovered to upgrade. As I recall I used Windows 2000 up until late 2003 or early 2004 before I went XP, and it had already been out a while so I usually don't rush in to upgrades. Especially what happened to me in mid 90's taught me the lesson. I was going back to college and I had to have the latest computers with Win 95 on them. Oh yes, had to have it. Well got it for school only to find Jaws, and everything else worked badly, and the os sucked, sucked sucked. It was only to the second release of 95 did it become stable. The original original release which was only shipped on computers for a few months was crash happy. Can you imagine trying to explain to your parents why you need a Win 95 upgrade when you have 95 that the version that shipped with the computer was riddled with bugs, was the first eddition, and the second eddition had like loads of patches to fix that. Well, I eventually got it, but I have found first edditions and releases usually aren't cracked up to much. XP SP2 is much more rock solid than the 2001 eddition although many probably have forgotten the monsterous security holes and bugs in XP's initial release. As for VS6 it has been dead a long while. In 2003 they were urging people to move away from it, and in 2005 they dropped support completely. Liam Erven wrote: usually with an operating system, I wait a year and a half to upgrade. Knowing with the way a lot of people work, they'll do the same thing. vs 6 is ancient technology. I don't blame microsoft for not supporting it in Vista. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] [holiday savings! (fwd)]
- Forwarded message from bsc games news [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: bsc games news [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: holiday savings! Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 16:11:50 -0500 X-ASK-Info: Whitelist match [from bscgames.com] (2006/11/27 14:16:19) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greetings Gamers, The holidays are here and discount savings are jingling over at BSC Games! Save 20% off of our popular titles troopanum 2.0, pipe 2 blast chamber, and hunter... offer expires December 15! Don't forget that you can conveniently order any of our games as a gift for a friend or family member by using our email a gift service. You can read more about our email a gift service when you go to place an order for any game. Happy holidays from bsc games. Visit us on the web at: http://www.BscGames.com To Unsubscribe, please click here : http://list.cboss.com/box.php?funcml=unsub2nl=5mi=4068[EMAIL PROTECTED] - End forwarded message - -- The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia. -- Daniel 8:20 Raul A. Gallegos ... IliwSsmc ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista?
I just thought it was funny that when Bill Gates decided to unveil Win98, he did so with a demonstration on public television and the system crashed right on the air. I don't remember what show it was but I remember my mom saying something about it. It was pretty funny. It ain't pretty when the pretty leaves you with no place to go. J.D. Fortune, Pretty Vegas - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista? Hi Liam, Yeah, I usually wait as well. I wait for the dust to settle and for the issues to be discovered to upgrade. As I recall I used Windows 2000 up until late 2003 or early 2004 before I went XP, and it had already been out a while so I usually don't rush in to upgrades. Especially what happened to me in mid 90's taught me the lesson. I was going back to college and I had to have the latest computers with Win 95 on them. Oh yes, had to have it. Well got it for school only to find Jaws, and everything else worked badly, and the os sucked, sucked sucked. It was only to the second release of 95 did it become stable. The original original release which was only shipped on computers for a few months was crash happy. Can you imagine trying to explain to your parents why you need a Win 95 upgrade when you have 95 that the version that shipped with the computer was riddled with bugs, was the first eddition, and the second eddition had like loads of patches to fix that. Well, I eventually got it, but I have found first edditions and releases usually aren't cracked up to much. XP SP2 is much more rock solid than the 2001 eddition although many probably have forgotten the monsterous security holes and bugs in XP's initial release. As for VS6 it has been dead a long while. In 2003 they were urging people to move away from it, and in 2005 they dropped support completely. Liam Erven wrote: usually with an operating system, I wait a year and a half to upgrade. Knowing with the way a lot of people work, they'll do the same thing. vs 6 is ancient technology. I don't blame microsoft for not supporting it in Vista. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Help with Soccer Boss
ari it is only free for a certon amout of time mate - Original Message - From: Ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 6:27 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Help with Soccer Boss Hi Guys, Could someone who loves soccer also look at http://www.tacticalmanager.co.uk/soccerboss/index.php and maybe give me some advice on how do I show more sessions? Never mind if you're not understanding what I'm talking about, when you register you'll see what I mean. Since I've never played it, I've got no clue really how accessible it is. The great thing is that it uses real players. What's also very fun about this game is that it's not really about your club, it's more about you as a manager in the real world, since one club can decide to sack you if you're not performing well, and then you have to look for another club to manage, so you really have to make tough decisions so that you don't lose your job! And what's embarrassing? When you get sacked, it's anounced on the News site! But, as I said, I still can't play because I can't get it to display more sessions from 7 upwards, I don't know if you need sighted help if it's some funny control you click on or what the trick is, since clicking next or index or even more free sessions isn't helping. I've emailed the webmaster, but have had no response. Ari ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista?
no I havn't heard anything. However if this article rings true it means that games for the blind will have to stay at dx9 level for now. Either that or have dx9 and 10 support for backward compatibility. I doubt that I will upgrade to vista and in deed upgrade for a few years yet. Its taken me 4 or so years to get the 3 systems we have upgraded to xp, and another year to stop using legacy win98 and office97 all together. Yesterday I had to solve an issue with wmp11 and klite mega codec. Its not likely I will upgrade for 2 reasons. 1. xpsp3 comes out when vista comes out or around then. So I will upgrade to that. 2. the vista interface if thats like ie7 with toolbars that can't turn off and search boxes that are core components, I wouldn't upgrade, I'd rather get xp even if I have to download xp which is not legal, but I refuse to upgrade. At least as long as I can. I also can't afford the large memmory and other things I'd need for systems to run vista, the 512mb ram system will not cut it and the 1gb minimum is reported as just cutting it. There is added security,and if its ms its more holes and annoyances. I'll cross the bridge when something breaks, but as long as xp lives, or I have a coppy lagit or not I will stay with it for now. I do hope though that someone at ms make some sence come around. I don't want to stay in the passed but it aint easy anymore. IN the coming year I am upgrading screenreading software so I am ready in case vista does have to go on a system. Its my hope that xpsp3 will increas the life of xp by a bit at least. Also the piracy things ms put in place will just become a nucence because some hardcore crim always cracks the ms os and then security of the product keys means nothing. But who knows? I may be proved wrong or not, who knows. At 06:58 PM 11/27/2006, Ari wrote: Hi guys, I don't know whether this has been discussed while I was away, but I'd like to tell you guys about this interesting article I read in a computer magazine about gaming on Windows Vista. First, DirectX 10 will only be made to support Vista. Another thing is that, not knowing if I understood the article properly, but some old games that work on XP won't work on Vista. I'd like to know has anyone else heard anything about gaming on Vista and are there positive/negative things for us? Ari ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] chillingham question on toomb
Hi. How does one get inside the toomb? It says you need a key to do it but where does one get one? I know through cheating that this is the only puzzle I have not completed yet, its easy after that. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] text games under Linux
and agil is supposed to be more portable and nice. I havn't bothered. On trademe a local ebay style site there is a compaq 386 for around 6 bucks. If I bag this one it will mean I can run all dos things with an external keynote I pulled from a blind org rubbish clearout. My other plan is to use grml and an emulater package, qemu for dwindows and dosemu for dos. This means a bit more fiddling I'd really like to run dos straight off an old system. It will be good to hit the old if games. At 03:14 AM 11/28/2006, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: I use frotz for inform and z-code games. I use frob for tads games, and I use scare for Adrift games. All of these are run under Linux. Unfortunately there are no rpm packages I found for these so I had to compile by hand and install which is no biggy. There is also one called agil which is to play agt games but I have not played agt games in a long while. Hope this helps. -- Watch ye and pray, lest ye enter into temptation. The spirit truly is ready, but the flesh is weak. -- Mark 14:38 Raul A. Gallegos ... IliwSsmc ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] chillingham question on toomb
Hay, if one kicked off, you might get in that way. heh heh heh - Original Message - From: shaun everiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:47 PM Subject: [Audyssey] chillingham question on toomb Hi. How does one get inside the toomb? It says you need a key to do it but where does one get one? I know through cheating that this is the only puzzle I have not completed yet, its easy after that. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista?
I never got along with vs6 installers, beside the vstudio express has a good ide. At 09:36 AM 11/28/2006, Liam Erven wrote: usually with an operating system, I wait a year and a half to upgrade. Knowing with the way a lot of people work, they'll do the same thing. vs 6 is ancient technology. I don't blame microsoft for not supporting it in Vista. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista? Hi Ari, The entire problem with Vista for us is that Microsoft is being very silent and tight jawed about Vista except what they want you to know. I've only managed to find out tidbits through talking to other devs who have tested it, and stuff I read between the lines on the Vista Platform SDK. However The message I have recieved through the info I have heard and read so far is the message they have quietly implied to us is the adapt or die attitude. In some ways I can't blame them as they have been running the same old libraries for ages, and now the new platform SDK is completely new and different. That is why many programs and even games or going to die when Vista comes out. Naturally, Vista games will not be backward compatible unless the company is using the .NET Framework which is backward compatible to any operating system that uses the same framework, and in the case of games DirectX as well. I do know they will be releasing .NET Framework 3.0 for Win 2000, XP, and Windows Server 2003, sometime next year so those operating systems will have some compatibility with Vista for sure. 95, 98, ME apps will be dead. As for DirectX 10 I believe it will bre backward compatible with DirectX 9.0 managed. I specified managed which is he .NET version of the DirectX libraries. 9.0 had 8.0 compatibility libs for say VB 6, Visual C++ 6, etc, but Microsoft has discontinued support for Visual Studio 98, which is 6.0, and you can expect anything written in that era of languages are going to die a quick death if they don't adapt soon. I saw this coming in 20904 and started off with .NET to get ahead of the screaming that will accompany the old line VB 6 devs if Vista doesn't support those apps. The good news our accessible game developers are slowly but surely moving to C#.NET or VB.NET. I know Justin knows VB.NET, Che knows VB.NET, Josh I think went to C#.NET, I believe it was Liam playing with VB.NET a little bit, I am using C#.NET for all my titles, and that is a good sign that developers are in the process of making the switch. However, the status of our older titles will have to wait for Vista to come out. Perhaps it is not as bad as we think it will be, and it could be worse than we think. I know most of the games for accessible games are VB 6 like the Kitchens Inc games, the GMA Game Engine, Lone Wolf, Trek 2000, Liam's Games, and plenty of others, and if Vista doesn't have proper support for those older apps those games are going to crash, and the accessible gaming market will come to a screaming hault in that event. Either way, Vista is probably going to be a highly expensive upgrade for the accessibility community. We will have to upgrade to the latest screen readers as I have been told for a fact that anything, I do mean anything older, than the latest Jaws or Window eyes will not run on Vista and work properly. That is tough as I know people still running Jaws 4.5 and 5.0 on XP, Window Eyes 4.2, and so on and they will be paying through the nose to fully upgrade screen readers to run with the thing. If, I mean if, many accessible games don't work, need to be rewitten, I can imagine upgrade or repurchase prices would be in order for the work involved in porting them to the new operating system which would have to be done sooner or later to maintain some kind of value. Else will end up like the old dos games fforgotten and unplayed. I can see several other programs requiring updates, and the entire upgrade becoming an investment. However, XP still has allot of life in it and even though Vista will hit the seen next year there is nothing wrong in holding to XP for a couple of more years buying the necessary upgrades one at a time, and of course wait for the accessible games to test and figure out if the products will work on Vista or not. All of this is pretty much the hypathetical long view on my part. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any
[Audyssey] New Free Game from Draconis
Merry Christmas Gamers, Old Man Stanley’s back … and this time, he’s decided to make a little extra money to offset the cost of rebuilding his house by playing Santa Claus at the local department store…But the stress of all the little brats and then having his house destroyed by a miniature wrecking ball has proven too much for him … when his assistant elf starts to mouth off … well, he just can’t take it anymore! Draconis Entertainment wishes all a merry Christmas with the release of a modified version of our classic ESP WhoopAss game. You can download Christmas WhoopAss from the Freebies section of our Download Center. Visit us at www.DraconisEntertainment.com Happy holidays! ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] New Free Game from Draconis
Yes. Go, people, and download this game. It's a great way to start the holidays, and another chance to take out your aggression on Old Man Stanley. Ah. Nothing like a little Christmas Violence, ey? - Original Message - From: Draconis Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:19 PM Subject: [Audyssey] New Free Game from Draconis Merry Christmas Gamers, Old Man Stanley’s back … and this time, he’s decided to make a little extra money to offset the cost of rebuilding his house by playing Santa Claus at the local department store…But the stress of all the little brats and then having his house destroyed by a miniature wrecking ball has proven too much for him … when his assistant elf starts to mouth off … well, he just can’t take it anymore! Draconis Entertainment wishes all a merry Christmas with the release of a modified version of our classic ESP WhoopAss game. You can download Christmas WhoopAss from the Freebies section of our Download Center. Visit us at www.DraconisEntertainment.com Happy holidays! ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] New Free Game from Draconis
I would like to see a fight between Old Man Stanley and Geezer Gus. heh heh heh. - Original Message - From: Brandon Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New Free Game from Draconis Yes. Go, people, and download this game. It's a great way to start the holidays, and another chance to take out your aggression on Old Man Stanley. Ah. Nothing like a little Christmas Violence, ey? - Original Message - From: Draconis Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:19 PM Subject: [Audyssey] New Free Game from Draconis Merry Christmas Gamers, Old Man Stanley’s back … and this time, he’s decided to make a little extra money to offset the cost of rebuilding his house by playing Santa Claus at the local department store…But the stress of all the little brats and then having his house destroyed by a miniature wrecking ball has proven too much for him … when his assistant elf starts to mouth off … well, he just can’t take it anymore! Draconis Entertainment wishes all a merry Christmas with the release of a modified version of our classic ESP WhoopAss game. You can download Christmas WhoopAss from the Freebies section of our Download Center. Visit us at www.DraconisEntertainment.com Happy holidays! ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] chillingham question on toomb
what code? Thanks for the hint, I knew the coin fit somewhere. At 02:33 PM 11/28/2006, Bryan Peterson wrote: Once you get the leash from the pet store and the penny from your first visit to the graveyard (it should have been lying on the ground), go to the village square an use the penny with the well. Then, tie the rope to the leash and use the item with the person. There's your tomb key. The code sequence for the tomb is trickier than it ought to be so I can't help there. It ain't pretty when the pretty leaves you with no place to go. J.D. Fortune, Pretty Vegas - Original Message - From: shaun everiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 3:47 PM Subject: [Audyssey] chillingham question on toomb Hi. How does one get inside the toomb? It says you need a key to do it but where does one get one? I know through cheating that this is the only puzzle I have not completed yet, its easy after that. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] sod
NB: This email and its contents are subject to our email legal notice which can be viewed at http://www.sars.gov.za/Email_Disclaimer.pdf Hay all Just letting you know that my dad is buying me sod for my birthday! I'm 29. Happy dooming! Lol! ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] christmas whoopass
i really like it! he's not happy lol. what was that ending music? it was very moving. regards, damien ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
