Re: [Audyssey] goalball

2008-06-20 Thread ari
Thanks Cory, I've always wanted to listen to goalball, but my problem is, 
could someone please tell me the difference between the time where they are 
playing and GMT, I don't know what time the matches will be on in South 
African time.
Thanks
Ari 


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Re: [Audyssey] goalball

2008-06-20 Thread Claudio Zeni
Hi Guys!
That's cool!
I I have played goal ball for a while ago, and I am interested in
listening to a life show on the radio.
Best regards and again thanks, Claudio.

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Re: [Audyssey] a new computer guide for blind people

2008-06-20 Thread Willem
Sounds great!
I have a few friends I know will benifit with this.

I know you put a lot of time and effort into the project.
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 Michael Feir creates a free computer guide for blind people with a unique 
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 Many blind people have the mistaken impression that computers are strictly 
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 expensive machines who only used them for basic reading and writing tasks, 
 the creator of Audyssey Magazine began work on Personal Power. This free 
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 Written as more of a traveller's gazette than a manual, Personal Power 
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 Comprising a total of around fifty thousand words, the guide strikes a 
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Re: [Audyssey] goalball

2008-06-20 Thread Willem
I'm also interested in listening. I played in the under 19's competition in 
BloemFontein last year .

I think the time difference is between 6 and 8 hours behind SA time.
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 Thanks Cory, I've always wanted to listen to goalball, but my problem is,
 could someone please tell me the difference between the time where they 
 are
 playing and GMT, I don't know what time the matches will be on in South
 African time.
 Thanks
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[Audyssey] score posting in pipe2

2008-06-20 Thread nicol
I havewn't run into a score posting issue again but I just want to prove
thom's point wrong.
Thom made the statement that you can only post your score if its higher than
the number 1 score on the scoreboards.
Just now  my score   successfully put me in eighth position.
I clearly heard the game said:
Congrachulations, you made the top10. your position is 8.
So  thom, where did you got your information from that you can only post a
score higher than  the number1 score?
I have just now proven that statement wrong.


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Re: [Audyssey] stoneback hill quest in sryth

2008-06-20 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi,
How do you learn a magic power from the scroll? I have the scroll and 
have been carrying it around a while. I never  knew it did anything so i 
didn't try. Can someone tell me how to learn a power from it?



Willem wrote:
 there is only nine original powers right?
 1. elementalism, 2. destruction, 3. fortification, 4. telekinesis, 5. 
 necromancy, 6. illusion 7. gating 8. divination 9. conjuration
 
 Did I miss any? Shadow magic is the tenth power right.
 At the moment I've got 6 powers. I don't have illusion, gating and 
 conjuration, but I don't care much. I got fortification from the tattered 
 scroll, so I just need shadow magic then I'll be happy.


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Re: [Audyssey] stoneback hill quest in sryth

2008-06-20 Thread Bryan Peterson
Just use it as an item. It'll disintegrate and you'll gain a random power. 
You might have to use it several times to get the power you want, because 
sometimes it'll grant the same power several times. Just don't save if it 
gives you Conjuration since that's just about the most useless power in the 
game.
Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so.
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 Hi,
 How do you learn a magic power from the scroll? I have the scroll and
 have been carrying it around a while. I never  knew it did anything so i
 didn't try. Can someone tell me how to learn a power from it?



 Willem wrote:
 there is only nine original powers right?
 1. elementalism, 2. destruction, 3. fortification, 4. telekinesis, 5.
 necromancy, 6. illusion 7. gating 8. divination 9. conjuration

 Did I miss any? Shadow magic is the tenth power right.
 At the moment I've got 6 powers. I don't have illusion, gating and
 conjuration, but I don't care much. I got fortification from the tattered
 scroll, so I just need shadow magic then I'll be happy.


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Re: [Audyssey] a new computer guide for blind people

2008-06-20 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Michael,
I've just read through the first section of the guide and so far pretty 
good. However, I do have one suggestion. At some point you might want to 
update your guide for new Windows vista users. One thing I noticed is 
your description of the start menu was the Windows XP start menu, which 
is fine, but you might want to be aware of the fact the Vista start menu 
is quite a bit different in nature.
The Vista startmenu requires you to tab around to different elements on 
the screen such as a search bar, the programs button, and a list view 
with such things as the users home directory, documents directory, music 
directory, control pannel, etc. Like i said it has a unique feel 
compared to Windows XP and earlier. You might want to make a note of 
this in your guide so new vista users don't get confused by your guide 
that assumes you are running XP and not a new system pre-loaded with Vista.
In fact, last year when I first got Vista I found the new start menu 
slightly confusing and disorienting as I was expecting something along 
the lines of XP. I was wrong, and it requires some exploration or some 
additional explanation to get a new user use to the way Vista does 
things compared to XP and earlier.
Also you might want to be aware of the fact some things have changed 
names under Vista. What was known as outlook Express under XP is called 
Windows Mail 7 in Vista. My Computer, My Documents, My Music, are simply 
called Computer, Documents, Music, etc under Vista. Just thought you 
might want to be aware of the fact Vista is slightly different than you 
are use to.
HTH.

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Re: [Audyssey] stoneback hill quest in sryth

2008-06-20 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Bryan,
Do I have to be some place specific? I've tried to use the scroll and it 
doesn't do anything.I press enter on the use link above the scroll and 
it does nothing at all.




Bryan Peterson wrote:
 Just use it as an item. It'll disintegrate and you'll gain a random power. 
 You might have to use it several times to get the power you want, because 
 sometimes it'll grant the same power several times. Just don't save if it 
 gives you Conjuration since that's just about the most useless power in the 
 game.
 Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so.


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Re: [Audyssey] a new computer guide for blind people

2008-06-20 Thread Michael Feir
Hi Tom. I don't plan on updating my guide at all. I've done the best I could 
with what I have access to. I unfortunately haven't gotten my hands on Vista 
yet and wouldn't presume to try to advise people on an operating system I 
don't know well. Perhaps, my project will spur others to start something 
which will be kept more up to date. I've certainly noted in my guide that 
Vista had its differences. That'll just have to do. The guide's a done deal 
now thank goodness. I can relax and unwind a bit now before plunging into my 
next project. Glad you've liked it so far.
Michael Feir
Creator and former editor of Audyssey Magazine
1996-2004
Check out my blog at:
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Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 10:55 AM
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 Hi Michael,
 I've just read through the first section of the guide and so far pretty
 good. However, I do have one suggestion. At some point you might want to
 update your guide for new Windows vista users. One thing I noticed is
 your description of the start menu was the Windows XP start menu, which
 is fine, but you might want to be aware of the fact the Vista start menu
 is quite a bit different in nature.
 The Vista startmenu requires you to tab around to different elements on
 the screen such as a search bar, the programs button, and a list view
 with such things as the users home directory, documents directory, music
 directory, control pannel, etc. Like i said it has a unique feel
 compared to Windows XP and earlier. You might want to make a note of
 this in your guide so new vista users don't get confused by your guide
 that assumes you are running XP and not a new system pre-loaded with 
 Vista.
 In fact, last year when I first got Vista I found the new start menu
 slightly confusing and disorienting as I was expecting something along
 the lines of XP. I was wrong, and it requires some exploration or some
 additional explanation to get a new user use to the way Vista does
 things compared to XP and earlier.
 Also you might want to be aware of the fact some things have changed
 names under Vista. What was known as outlook Express under XP is called
 Windows Mail 7 in Vista. My Computer, My Documents, My Music, are simply
 called Computer, Documents, Music, etc under Vista. Just thought you
 might want to be aware of the fact Vista is slightly different than you
 are use to.
 HTH.

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Re: [Audyssey] stoneback hill quest in sryth

2008-06-20 Thread Bryan Peterson
Have you used it in a safe location? I've used that scroll lots of times and 
nothing's ever gone wrong. ersonally though I use items via those combo 
boxes on the stat screen. Makes things a lot simpler.
Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so.
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 Hi Bryan,
 Do I have to be some place specific? I've tried to use the scroll and it
 doesn't do anything.I press enter on the use link above the scroll and
 it does nothing at all.




 Bryan Peterson wrote:
 Just use it as an item. It'll disintegrate and you'll gain a random 
 power.
 You might have to use it several times to get the power you want, because
 sometimes it'll grant the same power several times. Just don't save if it
 gives you Conjuration since that's just about the most useless power in 
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 Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so.


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Re: [Audyssey] a new computer guide for blind people

2008-06-20 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Michael,
Oh, I see. I wasn't aware this was the final draft. In any case it is 
great starter for the Windows XP user. great work.
As far as continuing the kind of work you have started I have been 
thinking of doing something similar for Linux. I've been wanting to 
write up a authoritative guide for new Linux users that explains such 
things is how to use the Orca screen reader, the Gnome desktop, browsing 
the internet, using email, how to play dvd movies, get podcasts, record 
and edit sounds, etc all in Linux.


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Re: [Audyssey] stoneback hill quest in sryth

2008-06-20 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Bryan,
I was in a safe place, but  using the use link wasn't working. I just 
tried the combo box and it worked. I just got fortification by using the 
scroll. That is now my third power.



Bryan Peterson wrote:
 Have you used it in a safe location? I've used that scroll lots of times and 
 nothing's ever gone wrong. ersonally though I use items via those combo 
 boxes on the stat screen. Makes things a lot simpler.
 Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so.
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Re: [Audyssey] a new computer guide for blind people

2008-06-20 Thread louis
Thomas, please do! Linux will then be a better friend! Thanks to the both of 
you for all your works.

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 Hi Michael,
 Oh, I see. I wasn't aware this was the final draft. In any case it is
 great starter for the Windows XP user. great work.
 As far as continuing the kind of work you have started I have been
 thinking of doing something similar for Linux. I've been wanting to
 write up a authoritative guide for new Linux users that explains such
 things is how to use the Orca screen reader, the Gnome desktop, browsing
 the internet, using email, how to play dvd movies, get podcasts, record
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Re: [Audyssey] a new computer guide for blind people

2008-06-20 Thread aiden gardiner
Hi Thomas,

That'd be ausum. i've always wanted to know what the benifits of using linux 
over windows would be, and I know there are very few if any accessible games 
which run under it, but it'd still be a good read. if you do get round to 
doing it, i'd like to be a reviewer if possible.

Aiden
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 Thomas, please do! Linux will then be a better friend! Thanks to the both 
 of
 you for all your works.

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 Hi Michael,
 Oh, I see. I wasn't aware this was the final draft. In any case it is
 great starter for the Windows XP user. great work.
 As far as continuing the kind of work you have started I have been
 thinking of doing something similar for Linux. I've been wanting to
 write up a authoritative guide for new Linux users that explains such
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Re: [Audyssey] RS Games site update

2008-06-20 Thread Damien Sadler
Hi,
I agree. I mean, Acefire was my very first game. AutoIt, COMAudio, load of 
crap. Now look at it. OK it isn't the best, but VB6, DX8, online 
capabilities, computer messages, etc, etc. In fact I've just been working on 
that recently. It now has a system to tell a player when the other is typing 
a message when playing online.
I am also working on some of the suggestions you guys put forward.
Thanks.
Regards,
Damien

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 Hi Will,
 I agree with the fact that the games RS games have produced so far
 haven't been all that interesting to me either. However, he is just
 starting out. Better games come with time, skill, and age.



 will lomas wrote:
 hi


 RS games haven't realy prodced a game that's grabbed my attention
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[Audyssey] Goalball Chat Room

2008-06-20 Thread Orin
Hey guys,

Just wondering where this chat room is where they speak of?



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Re: [Audyssey] stoneback hill quest in sryth

2008-06-20 Thread Willem
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 Hi Bryan,
 I was in a safe place, but  using the use link wasn't working. I just
 tried the combo box and it worked. I just got fortification by using the
 scroll. That is now my third power.



 Bryan Peterson wrote:
 Have you used it in a safe location? I've used that scroll lots of times 
 and
 nothing's ever gone wrong. ersonally though I use items via those combo
 boxes on the stat screen. Makes things a lot simpler.
 Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so.
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[Audyssey] rise of darth vader?

2008-06-20 Thread chou.clement
I don't know how many have seen this message on another list also from me but 
if someone has this book, could you please send it? Sorry to get off topic.
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Re: [Audyssey] a new computer guide for blind people

2008-06-20 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Aiden,
Actually, there is a lot more accessible games out there for Linux than 
you probably think. It is true that you aren't going to find something 
like GMA Tank commander, Shades of Doom, or Topspeed, but there are 
games that you can play in Linux.
For example, using the text based telnet client that ships with Linux 
you can successfully play all of the same muds we enjoy under Windows. 
if you want to play something like alter Aeon just point telnet to 
dentinmud.org port 3000 and you are ready to play Alter Aeon.
There are also Linux based ZMachine Interpreters such as frotz for Linux 
that allows you to play all of the Inform text based games. So that in 
of itself gives you several games to play in Linux.
If you use Mozilla Firefox 3.0 for Linux web based games such as Sryth 
are playable with Orca. Since I spend a lot of time in the world of 
Sryth it is a game I can spend a lot of time on playing using my Linux 
desktop PC.
I've heard that the latest versions of SoundRTS are Linux compatible, 
but haven't tried it for myself yet. If so that is another game that is 
pretty good, and is available for Linux gamers.
In addition to games there are some programs in Linux that are actually 
more accessible than their Windows counterparts. There is this software 
I use for watching dvd movies called Totem Movie Player. Once you 
install all the media plugins it is actually a lot better than Windows 
Media Player. One of the reasons I like Totem Movie Player so well is it 
actually gives you accessible menus when selecting DVD content such as 
selecting chapters, commentary, and some of the features of the DVD that 
is difficult to get even with Windows media Player.
another reason I like Totem is there is media plugins and codecs for 
just about any file format you want to play such as: wav, mp3, ogg, 
wma,, avi, mov, mpg, etc. So listening to podcasts, music, or watching 
movies is all doable under Linux.
Bottom line, Linux has become quite user friendly over the last couple 
of years, and there is more content out there for us then most people 
believe. I actually use the latest version of Open Office for my home 
business instead of Microsoft Office 2007 for two reasons. It is less 
expensive, and does just about everything MS Office 2007 can do.

aiden gardiner wrote:
 Hi Thomas,
 
 That'd be ausum. i've always wanted to know what the benifits of using linux 
 over windows would be, and I know there are very few if any accessible games 
 which run under it, but it'd still be a good read. if you do get round to 
 doing it, i'd like to be a reviewer if possible.
 
 Aiden


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[Audyssey] Sryth Phantom Assassin.

2008-06-20 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi all,
Ok, what does it take to defeat the Phantom Assassin? I have just lost 
three runes of life because of this low down, good for nothing, mother 
huncher. I can't seam to defeat this guy no matter what I try.
If I try to blast him with elementalism he resists it making it almost 
impossible to get a shot in at him using any magic. when I try to go 
after him in a strictly sword fighting style attack he is still laying 
damage on me left and right. It gives me messages like he batters his 
way through your defenses and lays a brutal stroke on you for 23 
damage.If it happened once it would be understandable but after every 
other roll?  It sounds like this guy is practically impossible to defeat 
with out say 150 stamina.
FYI, I have even tried taking on this mother huncher using the Hale 
Blade. While the Hale Blade would heal my injuries I noticed it would 
only restore 3 or 4 sp. That isn't enough considering the 
twenty-something in damage he is hitting me with. I need something with 
a lot more firepower I guess.


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Re: [Audyssey] Sryth Phantom Assassin.

2008-06-20 Thread Bryan Peterson
What did you say your MR was? I wouldn't recommend going after him until 
it's at least seventy, the higher the better. Then you'll at least be 
causing damage to him. Actually if you can get your MR to seventy-three or 
so you should do all right as far as the damage. As for his specials, you 
must just be particularly unlucky. I haven't often had the situation you're 
describing.
Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so.
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From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 5:59 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Sryth Phantom Assassin.


 Hi all,
 Ok, what does it take to defeat the Phantom Assassin? I have just lost
 three runes of life because of this low down, good for nothing, mother
 huncher. I can't seam to defeat this guy no matter what I try.
 If I try to blast him with elementalism he resists it making it almost
 impossible to get a shot in at him using any magic. when I try to go
 after him in a strictly sword fighting style attack he is still laying
 damage on me left and right. It gives me messages like he batters his
 way through your defenses and lays a brutal stroke on you for 23
 damage.If it happened once it would be understandable but after every
 other roll?  It sounds like this guy is practically impossible to defeat
 with out say 150 stamina.
 FYI, I have even tried taking on this mother huncher using the Hale
 Blade. While the Hale Blade would heal my injuries I noticed it would
 only restore 3 or 4 sp. That isn't enough considering the
 twenty-something in damage he is hitting me with. I need something with
 a lot more firepower I guess.


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Re: [Audyssey] Sryth Phantom Assassin.

2008-06-20 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi,
Oh, that totally sucks. My mr is at 66, and I am unable to get it any 
hire than that. As i stated earlier when I started up this new character 
I initially spend all my experience on powers such as restoration and 
elementalism. If I had put all the experience into weapon skills it be 
upt to 70 mr right now or higher. Now, I am finding it difficult to find 
adventures that are in my stat range that I can actually beat, and get a 
lot of experience in return so I can get up to 70 weapon and 70 slashing.


Bryan Peterson wrote:
 What did you say your MR was? I wouldn't recommend going after him until 
 it's at least seventy, the higher the better. Then you'll at least be 
 causing damage to him. Actually if you can get your MR to seventy-three or 
 so you should do all right as far as the damage. As for his specials, you 
 must just be particularly unlucky. I haven't often had the situation you're 
 describing.
 Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so.


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[Audyssey] Moderator warning rise of darth vader?

2008-06-20 Thread Thomas Ward
Hello Chou and everyone,
Please, do not post messages like this on the Audyssey list again. Not 
only is it off topic for this list, but it involves the piracy of a 
copyrighted book. Both Raul and I are against any kind of piracy on this 
list, and we ask that you respect that.
If you really must obtain this book illegally check out the lost in the 
stacks list where such books are exchanged freely.
Thanks.



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Re: [Audyssey] a new computer guide for blind people

2008-06-20 Thread shaun everiss
hmm maybe you could do a vista guide or something tom, unless mike has vista.
At any rate you can have the old style menus I think in vista which even though 
its backward in productivity is what I will do if and when I get vista, same 
goes for security, even if I have to get some weird alegal crap to do it.
Call me a stand still old timer but I just can't see why I should bother with 
all this new stuff if I am already getting buy now.
As it is if for whatever reason both these laptops here break I will probably 
go desktop, unless win7 is any better that is.
At 02:55 a.m. 21/06/2008, you wrote:
Hi Michael,
I've just read through the first section of the guide and so far pretty 
good. However, I do have one suggestion. At some point you might want to 
update your guide for new Windows vista users. One thing I noticed is 
your description of the start menu was the Windows XP start menu, which 
is fine, but you might want to be aware of the fact the Vista start menu 
is quite a bit different in nature.
The Vista startmenu requires you to tab around to different elements on 
the screen such as a search bar, the programs button, and a list view 
with such things as the users home directory, documents directory, music 
directory, control pannel, etc. Like i said it has a unique feel 
compared to Windows XP and earlier. You might want to make a note of 
this in your guide so new vista users don't get confused by your guide 
that assumes you are running XP and not a new system pre-loaded with Vista.
In fact, last year when I first got Vista I found the new start menu 
slightly confusing and disorienting as I was expecting something along 
the lines of XP. I was wrong, and it requires some exploration or some 
additional explanation to get a new user use to the way Vista does 
things compared to XP and earlier.
Also you might want to be aware of the fact some things have changed 
names under Vista. What was known as outlook Express under XP is called 
Windows Mail 7 in Vista. My Computer, My Documents, My Music, are simply 
called Computer, Documents, Music, etc under Vista. Just thought you 
might want to be aware of the fact Vista is slightly different than you 
are use to.
HTH.

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Re: [Audyssey] a new computer guide for blind people

2008-06-20 Thread shaun everiss
I aggree with you michael.
At any rate if at all possible I will be making vista as much xp like if I ever 
upgrade to that, or maybe win7?
And if I can't make it legally like xp then I'll just have to go alegal and 
make it like xp.
So I hope my laptops do not die for ages.
At 03:05 a.m. 21/06/2008, you wrote:
Hi Tom. I don't plan on updating my guide at all. I've done the best I could 
with what I have access to. I unfortunately haven't gotten my hands on Vista 
yet and wouldn't presume to try to advise people on an operating system I 
don't know well. Perhaps, my project will spur others to start something 
which will be kept more up to date. I've certainly noted in my guide that 
Vista had its differences. That'll just have to do. The guide's a done deal 
now thank goodness. I can relax and unwind a bit now before plunging into my 
next project. Glad you've liked it so far.
Michael Feir
Creator and former editor of Audyssey Magazine
1996-2004
Check out my blog at:
http://www.blindspots.net/blog.php?user=13

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Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a new computer guide for blind people


 Hi Michael,
 I've just read through the first section of the guide and so far pretty
 good. However, I do have one suggestion. At some point you might want to
 update your guide for new Windows vista users. One thing I noticed is
 your description of the start menu was the Windows XP start menu, which
 is fine, but you might want to be aware of the fact the Vista start menu
 is quite a bit different in nature.
 The Vista startmenu requires you to tab around to different elements on
 the screen such as a search bar, the programs button, and a list view
 with such things as the users home directory, documents directory, music
 directory, control pannel, etc. Like i said it has a unique feel
 compared to Windows XP and earlier. You might want to make a note of
 this in your guide so new vista users don't get confused by your guide
 that assumes you are running XP and not a new system pre-loaded with 
 Vista.
 In fact, last year when I first got Vista I found the new start menu
 slightly confusing and disorienting as I was expecting something along
 the lines of XP. I was wrong, and it requires some exploration or some
 additional explanation to get a new user use to the way Vista does
 things compared to XP and earlier.
 Also you might want to be aware of the fact some things have changed
 names under Vista. What was known as outlook Express under XP is called
 Windows Mail 7 in Vista. My Computer, My Documents, My Music, are simply
 called Computer, Documents, Music, etc under Vista. Just thought you
 might want to be aware of the fact Vista is slightly different than you
 are use to.
 HTH.

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Re: [Audyssey] a new computer guide for blind people

2008-06-20 Thread shaun everiss
well tom a linux guide would be good, so would a vista guide.
I mean I have read manuals and other opinionated junk from place to place but I 
never have got really into it all that much.
At 08:12 a.m. 21/06/2008, you wrote:
Hi Michael,
Oh, I see. I wasn't aware this was the final draft. In any case it is 
great starter for the Windows XP user. great work.
As far as continuing the kind of work you have started I have been 
thinking of doing something similar for Linux. I've been wanting to 
write up a authoritative guide for new Linux users that explains such 
things is how to use the Orca screen reader, the Gnome desktop, browsing 
the internet, using email, how to play dvd movies, get podcasts, record 
and edit sounds, etc all in Linux.


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