[Audyssey] Entombed monk job questions
Hey everyone, In entombed, the monk basically can start a battle with the focus skill When you use that talent in combat, other skills are opened up for that battle. My question is when I am allotting skill points, does the iron skin skilll automatically start in a battle, or is it something I am missing? Basically, I am asking if the iron skill is always on so to speak. Thanks Keith Proud user of Window Eyes 7.5.4.1 Reach me at: hea...@mchsi.com and on skype at: keith.steinbach1 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Entombed monk job questions
I'm pretty sure its an always on thing and not something you have to select. paul -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Keith Stormcloud Steinbach Sent: 20 May 2012 09:27 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Entombed monk job questions Hey everyone, In entombed, the monk basically can start a battle with the focus skill When you use that talent in combat, other skills are opened up for that battle. My question is when I am allotting skill points, does the iron skin skilll automatically start in a battle, or is it something I am missing? Basically, I am asking if the iron skill is always on so to speak. Thanks Keith Proud user of Window Eyes 7.5.4.1 Reach me at: hea...@mchsi.com and on skype at: keith.steinbach1 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] 2 question about entombed...
One of the intrinsic imbalances in entombed is the fact that magic never misses. At most, you'll hit a body part that you weren't intending to. With fighters, barbarians etc, while they can do great damage, the damage is always contingent on them actually hitting the targit which they don't always do. Add to this the fact that the further down the dungeon you go, the more well armoured creatures' are and the less damage physical attacks do, (especially ranged weapons, most of which are made of very soft wood or pretty feeble stone), and the magic jobs really have a distinct advantage. again, this is something that's been discussed on list. Beware the grue! DArk. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 12:07 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 2 question about entombed... Hi Dark, Yeah, I know. It seems to me your better off picking a race and job with a lot of magic potential because you can do far mor damage with an iceblast, firebolt, etc than a fully trained fighter. The only time fighters are really good is if they are paired with a thief or assassin job so they can perform sneek attacks. Otherwise a necro can usually kill goblins and other creatures with a well directed iceblast to the head. Plus can do heavy damage to undead creatures if their skills are high enough. Then, add to that their ability to raise goblins, ogres, and other undead enemies I just find necros to be one of the best jobs to have. On 5/19/12, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: rep tom, right now the best skills in entombed are things like sleep, curse, and chalm that have a good chance of stopping the enemy's attacking you while you finish them off, which is quite a shame for a game with such a very detailed combat system. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news.
Hmmm, as I said on audiogames.net, methinks apple need to considder the meaning of audio game a bit more carefully. I'm not sure if this is malicious disregard or just shear stupidity. After all, I'd bet they ever reject photo management or picture tweaking programs for not having sound? :D. A very silly atitude for a company who include accessibility into their os by default. Beware the grue! Dark. - O --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news.
i guess they wanted sighted people to have some graphics, remember how will sighted people be able to use just their ears? perish the thought On 20 May 2012, at 10:29, dark wrote: Hmmm, as I said on audiogames.net, methinks apple need to considder the meaning of audio game a bit more carefully. I'm not sure if this is malicious disregard or just shear stupidity. After all, I'd bet they ever reject photo management or picture tweaking programs for not having sound? :D. A very silly atitude for a company who include accessibility into their os by default. Beware the grue! Dark. - O --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news.
Well, what I can't understand is there are other games that don't have any graphic. Games like Aurifi and Papasangre and Blindmaze and other games don't have graphics but apple has allow them to get in the app store. Something else that I wonder is how did De Steno Games get accepted but Audio Archery is getting decline? I think that after Steve Jobs had died the company has started to go back to the way it was when he had left apple in the past. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] 2 question about entombed...
That's what I chose for my most recent game. She's an Elven Necromancer/healer. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 8:42 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 2 question about entombed... Hi Bryan, Ah.No. I definitely wouldn't pick a Fairy for my primary character. I usually go for something like an Elf which isn't as strong s a human, but is adept at magical jobs. On 5/19/12, bpeterson2...@cableone.net bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: I just wouldn't pick a Fairy as your primary character's race since it's so easy for them to die. Besides, Fairies don't have Necro as an option. Guess it's too grizzly for their liking. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news.
papa sangre does On 20 May 2012, at 11:25, michael barnes wrote: Well, what I can't understand is there are other games that don't have any graphic. Games like Aurifi and Papasangre and Blindmaze and other games don't have graphics but apple has allow them to get in the app store. Something else that I wonder is how did De Steno Games get accepted but Audio Archery is getting decline? I think that after Steve Jobs had died the company has started to go back to the way it was when he had left apple in the past. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news.
Fraid you're rong there michael. P s has graphics - a left foot and a firhg foot, and a wheel. Not sure about aurifi but I can ask. If destino games did get excepted and a a didn't its probably because the destino games have text and sound in them as well. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of michael barnes Sent: 20 May 2012 11:26 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news. Well, what I can't understand is there are other games that don't have any graphic. Games like Aurifi and Papasangre and Blindmaze and other games don't have graphics but apple has allow them to get in the app store. Something else that I wonder is how did De Steno Games get accepted but Audio Archery is getting decline? I think that after Steve Jobs had died the company has started to go back to the way it was when he had left apple in the past. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2176 / Virus Database: 2425/5010 - Release Date: 05/19/12 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news.
Hi Michael, According to L-works, Audio Archery has nothing on the screen. I suspect those other games have labeled buttons and a title in text on the screen. I don't think Apple is asking L-works to fully animate the game. Phil - Original Message - From: michael barnes c...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 6:25 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news. Well, what I can't understand is there are other games that don't have any graphic. Games like Aurifi and Papasangre and Blindmaze and other games don't have graphics but apple has allow them to get in the app store. Something else that I wonder is how did De Steno Games get accepted but Audio Archery is getting decline? I think that after Steve Jobs had died the company has started to go back to the way it was when he had left apple in the past. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2425/5009 - Release Date: 05/19/12 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news.
There's nothing stupid about it. When you play a game with 0 graphics, 0 background, 0 anything, it looks like your phone is turned off. So some sighted person will tap the archery icon, get this black background, and immediately freak out, sending numerous emails and complaints to Apple in the process. They're not asking Liam to animate the game. They just want some kind of picture in the background so people know the app is working properly. As someone already pointed out, even Papa Sangre has icons. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 4:30 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news. Hmmm, as I said on audiogames.net, methinks apple need to considder the meaning of audio game a bit more carefully. I'm not sure if this is malicious disregard or just shear stupidity. After all, I'd bet they ever reject photo management or picture tweaking programs for not having sound? :D. A very silly atitude for a company who include accessibility into their os by default. Beware the grue! Dark. - O --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news.
Well since that is the case, why don't he just put the name of the game on the screen? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news.
As for upgrading your OS, I have never had to pay for any upgrades of Apple iTunes, which is how I transfer info from my Windows PC to my iPhone, and it was free to begin with. As for the games for the blind, you are way off base. What Apple wants is some kind of background, icons, or both, so that people with eyesight know that the app is working. A totally blank screen would possibly indicate that either the app or the phone is not working. As for how much control Apple has, I think it is good that they do have this control, because it makes things secure and, hopefully, virus free, just to name one thing among several. Think before you wine. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Willem Venter dwill...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 12:12 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news. This is why I stear clear of apple products. Even though they make a nice phone and operating system, it's not worth it. They have too much control over things that a normal user should be allowed to choose about. What do they know about accessible games anyway? You can't even change the battery of your phone or upgrade your computer's hardware without violating their lisence agreement. You can't program for IOS without using their propriotary tools that cost a lot of money and then some know it all tech at the app store decides that an audio game needs graphics. On 2012/05/20 02:31 AM, Phil Vlasak wrote: Recent Tweets from L-Works. Audio Archery got rejected. Apple did not like the empty screen. also need icons. I gave the artist a couple ideas. he's gonna send me some drags in a couple days waiting on Icons still. as soon as one gets created I will resubmit app. So never fear. http://twitter.com/#!/lworksgames --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] python help
Hello, Thomas, Thanks for the info. I had chosen 3.2 only because I thought that it was always a good idea to get the latest version. Apparently, I was mistaken here. Maybe a dumb question, but what is the difference between Python 2.7.3 and Pygame 1.9? Why do I need both? Thanks Allen allen.j...@foxvalley.net - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] python help Hi Allen, First, if you want to learn Python I don't recommend using Idle or any other Python IDE as they generally aren't accessible. All you really need is a standard ascii text editor like Windows Notepad. For instance, if you wanted to write a simple hello world program in Python copy the following code into Notepad and save it as hello.py. #Hello World #Version 1.0 #Written by Thomas Ward print Hello world! raw_input(Press enter to continue:) When you click on hello.py it will display a simple text message, hello world, and prompt you to press enter to exit the program. That's all you have to do to begin using Python. Second, is there a specific reason why you picked 3.2? The reason I'm asking is if you want to do serious Python development the majority of packages such as Pygame are for Python 2.7. So if you wanted to write games I'd recommend Python 2.7.3 and Pygame 1.9. Most Python developers have not moved to Python 3 yet so you could run into problems developing certain applications as a number of packages and modules have not been upgraded to support Python 3.x yet. Cheers! On 5/19/2012 11:12 PM, Allen wrote: Hello listers, I'm using a Jaws 11 demo and I've installed Python version 3.2 on a Windows XP laptop. I press control+n to start a new session. I can type but neither do I hear anything as I am typing, nor can I hear anything when I press any of my arrow keys. I am hearing absolutely nothing when I press any of the arrow keys, not even blank. Is there a Jaws setting I need to change or a Python setting I need to turn on or off? I'd like to begin learning the Python programming language. Thanks Allen --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news.
I'm not certain. You'd have to ask Liam that question. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of michael barnes Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 8:45 AM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news. Well since that is the case, why don't he just put the name of the game on the screen? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news.
Hi Charles, Two points here. First, one reason the community at large would like other app store options is because of some of the random things Apple refuses in the apps it allows to be posted. For example, someone made an app that allowed you to put an icon on your home screen to toggle Bluetooth on and off. Apple later decided it didn't want consumers to be able to do that anymore, perhaps because they'll be adding that functionality in a later version, so the app was pulled from the store. Now people can't toggle Bluetooth from the home screen anymore. It's why so many people choose to jailbreak their iPhones. They want the ability to install apps that are outside of Apple's rather stringent guidelines. It's the same reason people want smaller government. They want the freedom to do what they will with the device they paid for. Second, as to the post below yours, I see some mistaken assumptions about Apple, and I see some definite opinions expressed by someone who isn't as into Apple products as you or I, but I'm having trouble finding the whining you accuse him of. Can you please help me find said whining so I can also indignantly tell him to stop doing it? Thanks, Ryan -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 9:55 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news. As for upgrading your OS, I have never had to pay for any upgrades of Apple iTunes, which is how I transfer info from my Windows PC to my iPhone, and it was free to begin with. As for the games for the blind, you are way off base. What Apple wants is some kind of background, icons, or both, so that people with eyesight know that the app is working. A totally blank screen would possibly indicate that either the app or the phone is not working. As for how much control Apple has, I think it is good that they do have this control, because it makes things secure and, hopefully, virus free, just to name one thing among several. Think before you wine. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Willem Venter dwill...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 12:12 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news. This is why I stear clear of apple products. Even though they make a nice phone and operating system, it's not worth it. They have too much control over things that a normal user should be allowed to choose about. What do they know about accessible games anyway? You can't even change the battery of your phone or upgrade your computer's hardware without violating their lisence agreement. You can't program for IOS without using their propriotary tools that cost a lot of money and then some know it all tech at the app store decides that an audio game needs graphics. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Some Jam Live Music Arcade Jams.
I just got this game yesterday, and I'm totally enjoying the heck out of it. here are 2 jams that'll hopefully showcase what this game's all about. let me know what you think! I can upload more if people like it. jam 1: http://db.tt/vOR5yuoz jam 2: http://db.tt/44uwlP4u -- Sign up to bing Rewards, and earn many gifts simply by browsing the web and clicking links. I've earned around $20 worth in MS points in about 3 months simply by searching. Please use this link if you're planning to join: http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9778718rrid=C714DC93-BC0B-4441-AD27-F345856231A1 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] new and wanting game suggestions, please!
Well, I like rpg type games, I already own emtombe On 2012-05-14, at 12:00 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Caitlyn, Well, in terms of recommending games what exactly are you interested in. These days there are several kinds of accessible games from your Space Invader style arcade games like Aliens in the Outback, Troopenum, and Judgment Day to highly complex first-person games like Shades of Doom and Sarah and the Castle of Witchcraft and Wizardry. There are hundreds of accessible text adventures, several online muds, and even browser based games like Sryth. The best thing I can suggest is that you swing by http://www.audiogames.net and look at the database of accessible games known to exist for blind and low vision gamers. As for the games you are asking about they are Monkey Business and Shades of Doom. Monkey Business is about a number of laboratory monkey's that escape taking various parts of a teleporter with them, and you have to recover them and defeat the evil doctor behind the plot. The other game is called Shades of Doom and more or less follows a storyline similar to Doom where you go through a laboratory slaying monsters. Cheers! On 5/11/2012 1:47 PM, Cait and Nickels wrote: Hi, For me and any other newbies to this list, what are some good games to get started with? I have a mac primarily, but I do run a virtual machine with xp and win eyes on it. I also do the i phone and i pad thing. Oh, and I seem to remember a game from a long time ago called something like escaped monkeys or something like that, is that still available and playable? I also remember the doom like one.. Thanks again, Caitlyn --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Entombed update
Hi Keith, Sorry I don't know what might be causing this problem. No, you don't have to pay again. Try registering again. If it still fails, contact Jason directly to help with it. Good luck. Shermanator - Original Message - From: Keith Stormcloud Steinbach hea...@mchsi.com Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 6:12 AM I downloaded the full installation update and ran it, and now I have to get full game from the main menu. I had set up an account when i first started playing the free version, but it can't find my user ID and password on the server...it tells me that I can use the paypal receipt number and I put that in the edit box, but it still tells me that my account cannot be found. Anyone have a clue as to what is wrong? Do I have to pay the $40.00 again to get another full version? Keith --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Where to get the update for Entomb?
HI, the most current version is 1.05b. It can be found at http://www.blind-games.com/newentombed/EntombedSetup.exe If you are running window 7, it might not install correctly If so, write back and get instructions on how to install it. On the webssite you will also find version 1.02K. This is a stable release with a few bugs still. But does install properly with no problems. My suggestion would be to install the 1.05b. Good luck. Shermanator - Original Message - From: michael barnes c...@samobile.net Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 12:20 PM Hey, When I go to the Entomb homepage I don't see the new update. Can someone please give me the current update for the game? Thanks! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] 2 question about entombed...
HI, Fairies are not as bad as they seem. I have played many games with one as my primary character. Many fairies are also in the top 50. And a good fairy with mage maxed out can do a whole lot of hurt. In fact more damage than a necros ice blast. One trick is to choose trickster. This way they can hide if necessary and let their pet do all the damage in the early floors. Also helps if there is a good magical cloth tunic or leggings and a magical dagger to boost their intelligence, creativity, and hp. Good luck. shermanator - Original Message - From: bpeterson2...@cableone.net Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 5:14 PM I just wouldn't pick a Fairy as your primary character's race since it's so easy for them to die. Besides, Fairies don't have Necro as an option. Guess it's too grizzly for their liking. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news.
I'm afraid I disagree Ryan, sinse the entire point of an audio game is that the audio is still laying, so no reason for sighted people to freak. By the same logic, shouldn't all those soundless aps have sound just in case someone freaked out because they thought their speakers were bust? And anyway, don't Iphones have a way to alt tab to the desktop or nearest equivolent? while I freely confess I know little about the interface, I'd be very shocked if once something was running you couldn't go back to your basic phone setup or pull up a taskbar, just in case it crashed, in which case, no freakout. As I said, unless Apple are requiring the same requirements from visual only programs that have no sound, which planely they are not doing, this strikes me simply as unrealistic standard applied to a medium they weren't meant to be applied to. Beware the Grue! dark. - --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news.
They have to meet certain requirements for the majority of users. Some visual indicator, regardless of what it is, is required. To me, this makes sense. If someone who is sighted uses my iPhone, they will know that the phone is working during the running of the app. And if it does not interfere with my using of the app or it's performance, I have no problem with it. You can get back to a home screen to see if the phone is working, but should you have to? And to require sound for an app that doesn't need sound doesn't make sense to me, because of the same reason given above. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! are! finished! - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news. I'm afraid I disagree Ryan, sinse the entire point of an audio game is that the audio is still laying, so no reason for sighted people to freak. By the same logic, shouldn't all those soundless aps have sound just in case someone freaked out because they thought their speakers were bust? And anyway, don't Iphones have a way to alt tab to the desktop or nearest equivolent? while I freely confess I know little about the interface, I'd be very shocked if once something was running you couldn't go back to your basic phone setup or pull up a taskbar, just in case it crashed, in which case, no freakout. As I said, unless Apple are requiring the same requirements from visual only programs that have no sound, which planely they are not doing, this strikes me simply as unrealistic standard applied to a medium they weren't meant to be applied to. Beware the Grue! dark. - --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news.
Just as most things today exist for a world that takes in 90% of its environment through sight, the iPhone is no different. That's why you don't need audio feedback for visual apps. You can tell just by looking at the screen that things are working. In fact, many apps lose their sound when the iPhone's mute switch has been flipped, whereas at no time is the screen blank unless the phone is off or a blind user turns on the screen curtain. I see where you're coming from, and to you and I it makes sense, but Apple is catering to a pretty low denominator--the same type of people who can't find the button to make the cup holder pop out the front of their computer again. Like it or not, it's just a picture, and that won't be hard to implement. At least they're not making Liam put moving graphics into the game. Ryan -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 3:07 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news. I'm afraid I disagree Ryan, sinse the entire point of an audio game is that the audio is still laying, so no reason for sighted people to freak. By the same logic, shouldn't all those soundless aps have sound just in case someone freaked out because they thought their speakers were bust? And anyway, don't Iphones have a way to alt tab to the desktop or nearest equivolent? while I freely confess I know little about the interface, I'd be very shocked if once something was running you couldn't go back to your basic phone setup or pull up a taskbar, just in case it crashed, in which case, no freakout. As I said, unless Apple are requiring the same requirements from visual only programs that have no sound, which planely they are not doing, this strikes me simply as unrealistic standard applied to a medium they weren't meant to be applied to. Beware the Grue! dark. - --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news.
Good time to move to Android. I am a blind Android user and i love it. Being a growing platform, we android users also would like to have some audiogames. Cheers Jorge Gonçalves jopo...@hotmail.com Skype: joport3 Twitter: www.twitter.com/goncalvesjorge Webpage: www.jorgegoncalves.com On 5/21/2012 6:12 AM, Willem Venter wrote: This is why I stear clear of apple products. Even though they make a nice phone and operating system, it's not worth it. They have too much control over things that a normal user should be allowed to choose about. What do they know about accessible games anyway? You can't even change the battery of your phone or upgrade your computer's hardware without violating their lisence agreement. You can't program for IOS without using their propriotary tools that cost a lot of money and then some know it all tech at the app store decides that an audio game needs graphics. On 2012/05/20 02:31 AM, Phil Vlasak wrote: Recent Tweets from L-Works. Audio Archery got rejected. Apple did not like the empty screen. also need icons. I gave the artist a couple ideas. he's gonna send me some drags in a couple days waiting on Icons still. as soon as one gets created I will resubmit app. So never fear. http://twitter.com/#!/lworksgames --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news.
Hi Charlese. I'm afraid I just do not agree on the basis that an audio game does not output graphically. It is not a question of who uses the ap, so much as the medium in which it outputs. If a photo editing program outputs images, no sound is needed for the control or correct running of such a program. Most audio software does have visual controls, but this is a matter of the interfaced use used to control such a program, not the ouput, if it were, apple would reffuse any audio playing program that did not have something like the video show in winamp to output visual effects during playback of the music. An audio game however is! controled, and output entirely in audio, just as a photo editing program is output and controled entirely in images. If you are not going to demand extra output for the one, why for the other? i do not doubt that your reason, that the software must! appeal to a sighted user and Apple considders only visual presentation is correct, but to my mind this is eronius thinking when it comes to audio games. As someone with a small degree of vision who plays both audio, and graphical games (albeit most are old, or at least in retro style), I do believe that just as purely text based games still have a place and a unique style of their own, so do audio games. To take an example, in swamp, the fact that it's the surface you walk on and the loudness of your movements which attracts the zombies, but by the same tocan that you yourself must avoid zombies by ear gives a very unique twist to the game, sinse you really need to watch where you walk, and what weapons you use. These are not features used in a graphical game, sinse obviously even if some game or other did feature blind zombies that navigated by sound (though I haven't heard of any that has), your character would still! by virtue of the graphics have an advantage, being able to for instance see your way to walk around patches of noisey gravel. In swamp however, the fact that you and the zombies are on a more equal footing, neither having the advantage of full overview gives a really unique feeling to the game that you wouldn't get in something fully graphical. So, swamp is unique because! it is an audio game, and as I believe has been said previously, deserves recognition not merely in it's status of being accessible, but in it's status of being audio, just as a fine radio drama deserves recognition for being a radio drama, and neither a book nor a film. it is however this I think apple are missing by their insistance on flashy graphics, sinse they are considdering not what an audio game is! but only how it will appeal to their customers and sell more phones. Rather than saying we are a company who support all! forms of art they are saying we are a company who insist! things look and feel a certain way, even when this is of no relevance to the things themselves it'd be like insisting that every radio drama comes with pictures of all the characters, or that every novel be written as a comic with the story told in pictures as well as words. Of course, apple being the huge, multinational corporation that just wants more ticks on it's prophit sheet, none of this makes a difference even if we told it to them, sinse a corporation that cares is something of a contradiction in terms. Just because we are forced to accept something however by virtue of Apples control on things doesn't make it right, which is really my point. yes, Liam and other audio game devs will! have to have graphics for their games in order that they have the correct, flashy look apple wants, this however doesn't mean they should! just as even though capcom, nintendo etc don't give a flying monkey's rear for game access doesn't mean that game access is unimportant. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news.
As I said on audiogames.net, I think Liam should put in a picture with a message that says this is an audio game, meaning it has no graphics and sound, and this picture serves no purpose at all and is a waste of space We'd see how they like them! apples! :d. of course, apple would doubltess reject this, but it's an amusing thought none the less. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news.
On the whining, it might have sounded that way by the way it was punctuated, and my screen reader didn't interpret it correctly. If this was the case, I was wrong based on the info to my ears. (grin) Your other point was good. Thanks. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Ryan Strunk ryan.str...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news. Hi Charles, Two points here. First, one reason the community at large would like other app store options is because of some of the random things Apple refuses in the apps it allows to be posted. For example, someone made an app that allowed you to put an icon on your home screen to toggle Bluetooth on and off. Apple later decided it didn't want consumers to be able to do that anymore, perhaps because they'll be adding that functionality in a later version, so the app was pulled from the store. Now people can't toggle Bluetooth from the home screen anymore. It's why so many people choose to jailbreak their iPhones. They want the ability to install apps that are outside of Apple's rather stringent guidelines. It's the same reason people want smaller government. They want the freedom to do what they will with the device they paid for. Second, as to the post below yours, I see some mistaken assumptions about Apple, and I see some definite opinions expressed by someone who isn't as into Apple products as you or I, but I'm having trouble finding the whining you accuse him of. Can you please help me find said whining so I can also indignantly tell him to stop doing it? Thanks, Ryan -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 9:55 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news. As for upgrading your OS, I have never had to pay for any upgrades of Apple iTunes, which is how I transfer info from my Windows PC to my iPhone, and it was free to begin with. As for the games for the blind, you are way off base. What Apple wants is some kind of background, icons, or both, so that people with eyesight know that the app is working. A totally blank screen would possibly indicate that either the app or the phone is not working. As for how much control Apple has, I think it is good that they do have this control, because it makes things secure and, hopefully, virus free, just to name one thing among several. Think before you wine. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Willem Venter dwill...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 12:12 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news. This is why I stear clear of apple products. Even though they make a nice phone and operating system, it's not worth it. They have too much control over things that a normal user should be allowed to choose about. What do they know about accessible games anyway? You can't even change the battery of your phone or upgrade your computer's hardware without violating their lisence agreement. You can't program for IOS without using their propriotary tools that cost a lot of money and then some know it all tech at the app store decides that an audio game needs graphics. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news.
I think the overarching point here is not Apple and its stance on graphics, but rather the novelty of audio games. Think how much hubbub arises when some mainstream developer decides to create an audio adventure--Papa Sangre, Zombies! Run!, Aurify, etc. The reason audio-only programs aren't seen as just another form of program is because of their rarity. There are half a million apps in the app store, and I would guess than less than 100 are audio only programs. If we say there are exactly 500,000 apps, and 100 are audio only, we're looking at 0.02% of all apps. Apple isn't looking at profit, but rather wants to avoid the loss it would accrue from spending customer service time telling people No. Your phone isn't broken. It's an audio-only program. I think your idea of a picture that says audio only program is a good one, and it would probably work. It's not a matter of flashiness, but rather understandability for the sighted user who hasn't bought the 0.02% of audio-only apps. Ryan -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 4:53 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news. Hi Charlese. I'm afraid I just do not agree on the basis that an audio game does not output graphically. It is not a question of who uses the ap, so much as the medium in which it outputs. If a photo editing program outputs images, no sound is needed for the control or correct running of such a program. Most audio software does have visual controls, but this is a matter of the interfaced use used to control such a program, not the ouput, if it were, apple would reffuse any audio playing program that did not have something like the video show in winamp to output visual effects during playback of the music. An audio game however is! controled, and output entirely in audio, just as a photo editing program is output and controled entirely in images. If you are not going to demand extra output for the one, why for the other? i do not doubt that your reason, that the software must! appeal to a sighted user and Apple considders only visual presentation is correct, but to my mind this is eronius thinking when it comes to audio games. As someone with a small degree of vision who plays both audio, and graphical games (albeit most are old, or at least in retro style), I do believe that just as purely text based games still have a place and a unique style of their own, so do audio games. To take an example, in swamp, the fact that it's the surface you walk on and the loudness of your movements which attracts the zombies, but by the same tocan that you yourself must avoid zombies by ear gives a very unique twist to the game, sinse you really need to watch where you walk, and what weapons you use. These are not features used in a graphical game, sinse obviously even if some game or other did feature blind zombies that navigated by sound (though I haven't heard of any that has), your character would still! by virtue of the graphics have an advantage, being able to for instance see your way to walk around patches of noisey gravel. In swamp however, the fact that you and the zombies are on a more equal footing, neither having the advantage of full overview gives a really unique feeling to the game that you wouldn't get in something fully graphical. So, swamp is unique because! it is an audio game, and as I believe has been said previously, deserves recognition not merely in it's status of being accessible, but in it's status of being audio, just as a fine radio drama deserves recognition for being a radio drama, and neither a book nor a film. it is however this I think apple are missing by their insistance on flashy graphics, sinse they are considdering not what an audio game is! but only how it will appeal to their customers and sell more phones. Rather than saying we are a company who support all! forms of art they are saying we are a company who insist! things look and feel a certain way, even when this is of no relevance to the things themselves it'd be like insisting that every radio drama comes with pictures of all the characters, or that every novel be written as a comic with the story told in pictures as well as words. Of course, apple being the huge, multinational corporation that just wants more ticks on it's prophit sheet, none of this makes a difference even if we told it to them, sinse a corporation that cares is something of a contradiction in terms. Just because we are forced to accept something however by virtue of Apples control on things doesn't make it right, which is really my point. yes, Liam and other audio game devs will! have to have graphics for their games in order that they have the correct, flashy look apple wants, this however doesn't mean they should! just as even though capcom, nintendo etc don't give a flying monkey's rear for game access doesn't mean that game access is
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news.
Hi Folks, I can imagine the perfect graphic for Audio Archery. The side view of Robin Hood pulling back the string of his bow while wearing dark glasses and headphones. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news.
Hi, what's Audio Archery? Nicole Thompson-Andrews Pen name Mellissa Green Budding novelist Emerging poet Tweet me @greenNovelist - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news. Hi Folks, I can imagine the perfect graphic for Audio Archery. The side view of Robin Hood pulling back the string of his bow while wearing dark glasses and headphones. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Some Jam Live Music Arcade Jams.
Hey, Yohandy. What kind of game is this? Where can I go to download the game? Thanks! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] New member requests tips for Dodge City Desperatos game
Hello. I am a new member to this list and am joining primarily to solicit a few tips to help me with the Dodge City Desperados text game. I have figured out some things, but am uncertain about a few others. For example, is there a purpose to the jail cell, or is it just there? I have not yet found a purpose for the hunting knife found in the hotel. I've managed to figure out how to follow the secret passage way up to the other side of the steel door in the general store, but am not sure what to do next. I'm not looking for direct answers or spoilers, just hints or clues if any are willing to provide them. I'm also not sure what the deal is with the horses in the stable, or if there's any purpose to the telegraph office other than feeding me useless clues to the game. Again, any help is appreciated. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7151 (20120519) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Anyone ever heard of a game called CastleQuest?
Many years ago, I once played a game on my old IBM 286 computer in DOS called CastleQuest. I was wondering if anyone might happen to have it and would be willing to share it with me if they do. I really enjoyed the game and would love to play it again. Thanks. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7151 (20120519) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Introduction
Hello All, I am really into simulation and tycoon games. Microsoft Flight Simulator is the most used program I have since it can be made accessible. I use IYP, and I am also a beta tester for a program called Multi Crew Experience, which has some work to be done. Even more than flying, I love trains and love train simulators and railroad tycoon. Of course none of these are accessible. I wish they were, and I rarely use them at this point. Jordan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Ten Pin Alley question
I am running Windows 7 64 bit after my Windows 7 32 bit computer had some problems and I replaced it. I now get Runtime Error 76 everytime I try to launch Ten Pin Alley. I would like to know if there is a work around for this, and if not, is there another bowling game out there that I could look into. I miss that program and would like to either get it working again or find a different program. Thanks, Jordan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news.
Hi, Actually papasangre has a wheel at the top that you can use to turn with which is visible, and if memory serves a logo. aurifi also has something on the screen that I would guess is a logo. Cheers, -Michael. -Original Message- From: michael barnes Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 5:25 AM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news. Well, what I can't understand is there are other games that don't have any graphic. Games like Aurifi and Papasangre and Blindmaze and other games don't have graphics but apple has allow them to get in the app store. Something else that I wonder is how did De Steno Games get accepted but Audio Archery is getting decline? I think that after Steve Jobs had died the company has started to go back to the way it was when he had left apple in the past. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Dodge City Desperados question
Hi gamers, My apologies if this question has been asked and answered earlier, but in the game Dodge City Desperados by Richard de Steno, is there a way to save your game? Thanks Allen --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] 2 question about entombed...
Hi Dark, Right. I've noticed that. Entombed simply doesn't give the magician, necro, etc much chance to miss or fizzle where in Sryth your success is really a roll of the dice. You either hit the target and do no damage, your magic fails causing you to lose a turn, or it hits the target delivering a lot of damage. In that way Sryth's magical combat tends to be more balanced. When I get around to developing my own RPG adventure I'm strongly planning on using proven d20 rules in order to balance combat. Having a magical talent will be no insurence that you will freeze, shrink, grow, or do anything else to the intended target every single time. There will be times when the spell will fail or miss. Ditto for standard combat using swords, knives, daggers, spears, etc. On 5/20/2012 5:26 AM, dark wrote: One of the intrinsic imbalances in entombed is the fact that magic never misses. At most, you'll hit a body part that you weren't intending to. With fighters, barbarians etc, while they can do great damage, the damage is always contingent on them actually hitting the targit which they don't always do. Add to this the fact that the further down the dungeon you go, the more well armoured creatures' are and the less damage physical attacks do, (especially ranged weapons, most of which are made of very soft wood or pretty feeble stone), and the magic jobs really have a distinct advantage. again, this is something that's been discussed on list. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news.
Hi Dark, Well, I think there is more to it than that. Companies have set standards for applications and often times companies like Apple really want prospective developers to meet a specific look and feel. Since iOS is a graphical operating system they expect program launchers to have graphical icons that visually remind their users of what application they are launching. Many sighted developers would regard the lack of graphical icons etc very unprofessional. I've been told this from friends etc as well. For example, I remember showing a friend Mysteries of the Ancients when it was in the early stages. Of course, this person understood I was developing an audio game. However, he told me rather than just drawing a black screen it would look better if I added a splash screen of some kind with an image of a Greek temple with the logo Mysteries of the Ancients in the center. He also mentioned rather than just having icons with text labels like Read Manual, License Agreement, Play Game, whatever I should purchase some graphical icons of of a little scroll for the manual, perhaps a stone tablet for a license agreement, a temple for the main program launcher, etc. He said it would look more professional that way. So I took his advice and implemented most of his suggestions. I think what Apple is doing is they are attempting to filter out anything and everything that appears to be created by an amateur developer the same way Microsoft approves games for the XBox or Sony approves games for the Playstation III. Its a way to insure every game and application meets their stipulations and design requirements. Therefore if Liam doesn't have graphical looking icons etc its going to look cheaply made to a sighted developer, and we can't blame them for disqualifying a game on that basis. After all, every other developer has to meet the same requirements too. On 5/20/2012 5:29 AM, dark wrote: Hmmm, as I said on audiogames.net, methinks apple need to considder the meaning of audio game a bit more carefully. I'm not sure if this is malicious disregard or just shear stupidity. After all, I'd bet they ever reject photo management or picture tweaking programs for not having sound? :D. A very silly atitude for a company who include accessibility into their os by default. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news.
Hi Will, Yes, but its not just that. Large companies like smart phone developers as well as developers of game consoles have a strict set of standards each and every developer must meet to qualify. Its not so much that Liam is developing an audio game its the fact he seems to have ignored some very basic visual eye candy such as graphical icons for the program launchers which is a universal standard no matter what OS you are running. Audio game developers, for whatever reason, seem to regard purchasing a library of icons etc as superfluous. Even though the lack of said graphical icons make their application look cheap and amateurish to a sighted user. Like it or not, but we live in a sighted world and if we want to target devices like the iPhone we will have to get use to the fact some limited graphics maybe required. On 5/20/2012 5:45 AM, william lomas wrote: i guess they wanted sighted people to have some graphics, remember how will sighted people be able to use just their ears? perish the thought --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news.
Hi Michael, Well, the Desteno games is a different situation. All of Richard's games have text on the screen making them text games. So no graphics are required. At most the games needed a simple icon for the program launcher, but they passed because they were text games. Audio Archery is a different case because it creates a blank screen, and requires a person to play audio only. Not sure about the other games, but Apple seems to be looking for some minimum graphics now for audio games of that sort. On 5/20/2012 6:25 AM, michael barnes wrote: Well, what I can't understand is there are other games that don't have any graphic. Games like Aurifi and Papasangre and Blindmaze and other games don't have graphics but apple has allow them to get in the app store. Something else that I wonder is how did De Steno Games get accepted but Audio Archery is getting decline? I think that after Steve Jobs had died the company has started to go back to the way it was when he had left apple in the past. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] New member requests tips for Dodge City Desperatos game
Hello, and welcom to the list! Here is a couple of hints look in all the buildings and the the first part of the graveyard and road and patch of land on both sides of the town. You can only use one item more then once and one item is not a item you need to use or you will die. There are some decoy to throw the player off. I can't really give any other clues, but if you get stuck email me off list and I will help. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Ten Pin Alley question
Well, yes on your questions about the bowling games. First to fix the issue with Ten Pin Bowling you will need to go to www.kitchensinc.net and download the winkit file and that should fix the issue. Second here are two bowling games that I know of one is by vipgameszone it is call Funny Bowling and the second one is by vifit it is call vibowling. Hope that help you out. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news.
Hi Phil, Correct. Basically, it doesn't sound like Apple is asking Liam to fully animate the game, but they do require some graphical icons, and are requesting that he add some sort of graphical splashscreen with a picture and some text rather than a blank screen. That's a perfectly reasonable request given that a totally blank screen with no graphics or text is pretty ugly visually speaking, and I guess from their point of view is very unprofessional looking. They are just asking that Liam add some minimum graphics when the window is displayed rather than a totally blank screen which many sighted users could mistake as something wrong with the program and/or their phone. Most sighted people expect to see something other than a black screen. :D On 5/20/2012 7:44 AM, Phil Vlasak wrote: Hi Michael, According to L-works, Audio Archery has nothing on the screen. I suspect those other games have labeled buttons and a title in text on the screen. I don't think Apple is asking L-works to fully animate the game. Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Dodge City Desperados question
No there is no save feature in the game. Richard wanted the game to be challenging for the players just like Destination Mars. If you ever ask him to give you a clue on what to do he will say that you will have to figure it out, because he wants the players to be able to solve the puzzles because the puzzles are not that hard to learn. However I am willing to help out a little bit. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news.
Hi Ryan, Exactly. I think some blind game developers often forget that if they display a totally blank window a sighted user will assume their is something wrong with their phone, the software, etc and freque out immediately assuming there is something wrong because they are not use to seeing this behavior. Something simple like a splash screen with the words Audio Archery in large print would at least indicate to them that the app is working correctly and their phone isn't powered off or something. :D On 5/20/2012 9:30 AM, Ryan Strunk wrote: There's nothing stupid about it. When you play a game with 0 graphics, 0 background, 0 anything, it looks like your phone is turned off. So some sighted person will tap the archery icon, get this black background, and immediately freak out, sending numerous emails and complaints to Apple in the process. They're not asking Liam to animate the game. They just want some kind of picture in the background so people know the app is working properly. As someone already pointed out, even Papa Sangre has icons. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news.
Hey, Thomas. The De Steno Games app yes it does have some text but sighted people can't see it. All they see is white dots, which in the update of the app we are hoping to fix this and to improve the app for all players blind and sighted. I have alot of people that are sighted that would love to play with the app but they would like to be able to play without the screen reader. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] swamp server offline?
Hi is it just me or is the swamp server currently offline? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] New member requests tips for Dodge City Desperatos game
where do i go after i find the gun i could use some help with this game not sure what to do On 5/20/12, michael barnes c...@samobile.net wrote: Hello, and welcom to the list! Here is a couple of hints look in all the buildings and the the first part of the graveyard and road and patch of land on both sides of the town. You can only use one item more then once and one item is not a item you need to use or you will die. There are some decoy to throw the player off. I can't really give any other clues, but if you get stuck email me off list and I will help. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news.
They should have to play it just as we do; by sound only. There should be no target to aim at, no moving arrow, or any visual indication as to when to shoot or where to aim. If any visuals should be added, at most, it should be a target with the arrows popping into the ring you hit. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! are! finished! - Original Message - From: michael barnes c...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news. Hey, Thomas. The De Steno Games app yes it does have some text but sighted people can't see it. All they see is white dots, which in the update of the app we are hoping to fix this and to improve the app for all players blind and sighted. I have alot of people that are sighted that would love to play with the app but they would like to be able to play without the screen reader. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news.
How about instructions on how to play the game after the game name and creator? That would be OK. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news. Hi Ryan, Exactly. I think some blind game developers often forget that if they display a totally blank window a sighted user will assume their is something wrong with their phone, the software, etc and freque out immediately assuming there is something wrong because they are not use to seeing this behavior. Something simple like a splash screen with the words Audio Archery in large print would at least indicate to them that the app is working correctly and their phone isn't powered off or something. :D On 5/20/2012 9:30 AM, Ryan Strunk wrote: There's nothing stupid about it. When you play a game with 0 graphics, 0 background, 0 anything, it looks like your phone is turned off. So some sighted person will tap the archery icon, get this black background, and immediately freak out, sending numerous emails and complaints to Apple in the process. They're not asking Liam to animate the game. They just want some kind of picture in the background so people know the app is working properly. As someone already pointed out, even Papa Sangre has icons. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Ten Pin Alley question
I haven't heard of vibowling. I've been looking for bowling games for the blind that are serious challenges, and might check this one out. A good one for I devices would be cool as well. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! are! finished! - Original Message - From: michael barnes c...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Ten Pin Alley question Well, yes on your questions about the bowling games. First to fix the issue with Ten Pin Bowling you will need to go to www.kitchensinc.net and download the winkit file and that should fix the issue. Second here are two bowling games that I know of one is by vipgameszone it is call Funny Bowling and the second one is by vifit it is call vibowling. Hope that help you out. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] swamp server offline?
Hmmm wasn't going to mention it, I thought it was full. would be good to get messages when connecting, ie full, offline, etc and when you connect you should be able to view status of server, ie when you go on you should get a message stating if the server is close to full or not. At 12:48 p.m. 21/05/2012 +1000, you wrote: Hi is it just me or is the swamp server currently offline? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] swamp server offline?
Hi, It sure seems that way. There is currently talk about it on audiogames.net. You can follow the talk about this, and other things related to swamp at http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=6341p=152 This will take you to the currentl last page of the talk, page 152. Also, aprone wrote the following today on the fourm: Yesterday was my wife's birthday so I was pretty much gone all day but I plan to get a bit of work done tonight. I have a huge list of reported bugs to fix and I'd really like to get the next map ready. It will have a few new guns as well as a new zombie type. Hopefully more of course, but that is the minimum before I put the map into the next release. So it is possible there could be a new version coming out. Shermanator - Original Message - To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] swamp server offline? Hi is it just me or is the swamp server currently offline? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Some Jam Live Music Arcade Jams.
This game is for the PS3 and Xbox 360. if you don't have those consoles you're unfortunately out of luck. - Original Message - From: michael barnes c...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some Jam Live Music Arcade Jams. Hey, Yohandy. What kind of game is this? Where can I go to download the game? Thanks! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Anyone ever heard of a game called CastleQuest?
Not kings quest?: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kings_Quest Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Arctic Wolf arcticw...@embarqmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 10:18 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Anyone ever heard of a game called CastleQuest? Many years ago, I once played a game on my old IBM 286 computer in DOS called CastleQuest. I was wondering if anyone might happen to have it and would be willing to share it with me if they do. I really enjoyed the game and would love to play it again. Thanks. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7151 (20120519) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news.
Hi Dark, I understand where you are coming from as a fellow blind user, but as a developer I also can see Apple's point as well. Yes, its possible for a user to easily go back to the Home screen to see if the device is working, but that is beside the point. Audio games are extremely rare and I bet 99% of the iPhone users out there will expect a splash screen, some text, maybe a few buttons, etc rather than a blank screen. They aren't likely to realize the program is designed that way, because nobody besides blind developers write programs with a totally black screen. Its highly unusual and they will probably assume there is something wrong with the program and/or their device and will freak audio or no audio. Therefore Apple feels the best way to resolve that problem is by having audio games like Audio Archery have some sort of image, text, whatever to indicate that the device and game are working correctly. The problem with your argument about application x not having sound is that other applications don't need sound. In fact someone sighted can mute their phone and play games, send and receive text messages, browse the web, etc all without audio. I don't know of any sighted iPhone users who would think their speaker was busted if an app didn't have any sounds, but I'm pretty sure if an app came up with a black screen they'd assume there is something wrong with the phone or the program. Therefore Apple is fully in its rights to request that there is some visual interface to even audio games. Even if it is nothing more than a splash screen with a Robin Hood looking guy pointing a bow and arrow and the words Audio Archery in large print across the top of the window. Perhaps a few buttons like new game, start game, quit, etc below the image. I don't think this is too much to ask, and is very simple to do. At least if a sighted person buys the game they'll be able to see its working even if the graphics are primitive. Cheers! On 5/20/2012 4:07 PM, dark wrote: I'm afraid I disagree Ryan, sinse the entire point of an audio game is that the audio is still laying, so no reason for sighted people to freak. By the same logic, shouldn't all those soundless aps have sound just in case someone freaked out because they thought their speakers were bust? And anyway, don't Iphones have a way to alt tab to the desktop or nearest equivolent? while I freely confess I know little about the interface, I'd be very shocked if once something was running you couldn't go back to your basic phone setup or pull up a taskbar, just in case it crashed, in which case, no freakout. As I said, unless Apple are requiring the same requirements from visual only programs that have no sound, which planely they are not doing, this strikes me simply as unrealistic standard applied to a medium they weren't meant to be applied to. Beware the Grue! dark. - --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news.
Hi Dark, Sigh.This is the problem inherent with blind people. Instead of just trying to meet sighted people like Apple half way and add a few graphics to make the main game window more visually appealing you are willing to dig your heals in and debate the point when nothing you say or do will change their minds on that score. If you don't like Apple's terms then don't buy their phone and don't develop games for their device. Its really that simple. Cheers! On 5/20/2012 5:56 PM, dark wrote: As I said on audiogames.net, I think Liam should put in a picture with a message that says this is an audio game, meaning it has no graphics and sound, and this picture serves no purpose at all and is a waste of space We'd see how they like them! apples! :d. of course, apple would doubltess reject this, but it's an amusing thought none the less. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news.
Hi Phil, Lol! I was thinking something similar. Its a good idea. Cheers! On 5/20/2012 7:58 PM, Phil Vlasak wrote: Hi Folks, I can imagine the perfect graphic for Audio Archery. The side view of Robin Hood pulling back the string of his bow while wearing dark glasses and headphones. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
