Hope this is ok to post here.
Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu
Forwarded Message
An update including questions and answers regarding Super Liam and
Judgment day
http://l-works.net?subaction=showfullid=1410066926archive=
What if he decided to rewrite the game in BGT instead? would that work?
At 03:12 PM 9/7/2014, you wrote:
Dark,
Agreed. A lot of audio game developers have just pulled out without
any explanations, and what Justin did was just wrong in my opinion.
Liam isn't doing himself any favors by not
have you use your pinky?
because I use in my desktop
and lappy it will work.
thanks
Ishan
On 9/7/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:
Just try different fingers on the keys until you find what works best for
you. It isn't a stretch from the control key to the space bar.
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Be
Hi all the example of david greenwood is telling us that specially
audio games developers should aware the popularity of their games.
like shades of doom is updated but the older version is not
discontinued because of the popularity
same thing should be apply on super liam
Liam erven don't say
Hi Lisa and all,
If you have not already done so I suggest reading the post forwarded
to the list which answers a few questions about Super Liam and
Judgement Day. For the most part I completely understand why Liam is
doing what he is doing, and I think his explanation makes sense.
for those who
stealing? Yes and no. Has anyone noticed that Liam decided to drop
everything after people complaining about replacement delays? That is only a
way how not to show gratitude to custommers. You are right, his software is
his, but is also own by those who paid to him. In this comunity I can say
Hi all.
I noticed that there was descussion of deathmatch alpha on here as
I skimmed through the emails.
Since I seem to be one of the reps from reality gaming even though I
only do sound and testing I can probably help.
There are 2 arieas where there are non working cargo lifts and ladders.
Hello thomas sir!
how can you say that liam erven will again be a super hero?
since he don't give us a news about whether he will update him or not
I know that there will be no super liam for us any more.
the old developers are going.
only david greenwood is stable.
Thanks
Ishan
On 9/6/14,
Hi Ishan,
Let's begin with the fact that audio game developers do not and have
never made a lot of money making audio games. It isn't a profitable
venture and most developers do so as a hobby or just to make a little
money on the side. That is why a few developers startup a company,
produce a few
Hi Ishan,
I think you missed the point of that post. My mentioning of possible
updates was merely speculation, a possible hypothesis, used to
illustrate the fact nobody really knew what his long term intentions
were.
However, we now have a responce fromm Liam, and his intentions are
much more
Thomas i have read the message and now what he has done makes sense to me.
Lisa Hayes
www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes
- Original Message -
From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 9:10 PM
Subject:
Hi Stephen,
Sure. However, given the fact Liam has a 9 to5 job I doubt he really
has the time to put into rewriting either game from scratch in BGT.
That would resolve support issues, but require more time and effort
than I suspect he has to put into a couple of old games.
Cheers!
On 9/7/14,
Hi Lori,
What I would do in that situation is use my pointer finger, my booger
picking finger, on the control key to fire, and my thumb to run. That
should be a pretty easy stretch even with someone with small hands.
Cheers!
On 9/6/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi guys, it's
does anyone know what E-mail address I can contact Liam on?
While it is Liam's choice to discontinue support for the software (silly
microsoft should be shot for causing this much trouble), I completely
disagree with his point that offering the games for free is bad for
previous customers.
That makes sense. I was thinking that people were saying, Abuse it. If it
doesn't hold up, it was defective. Thanks. Taking external hard drives
when traveling is something that would normally be done, and they should not
suffer from being transported as you describe.
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Be positive!
And i'd say, me not being technically minded that an entire re write would
be a hell of a job to do. Ok we might not like it, but what's done is done
and us bitching and griping is not and can't change it.
Lisa Hayes
www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes
- Original Message -
From:
In my opinion, anyone who gripes because they paid for a game that is now
available to other gamers for free due to life changes or other
circumstances is just sour grapes on the part of the whiner. I bought a
good game at a good price, and I am happy with that. If the game is later
offered
I'd just like to point out that we just saw a giant thread of somebody
asking if it was indeed possible to get those product keys he claims to be
giving out...
I'm not trying to say that he's necessarily trying to be dishonest and/or
get out of developing without actually saying it, but I do
Well said. I just finished drafting a similar post, but you said it far
better than I could.
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From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 1:02 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re:
Thanks for this. Its great to see some more info. He doesn't say anything
about future plans, though.
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From: Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 2:11 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Motion seconded, and well said.
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From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 8:53 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games
In my
I just posted this message to Liam on the Audio Games Forum,
I think Aprone's Swamp is still in Visual Basic 6.
I can understand not selling the older versions if you were planning to
update them in a different language such as C plus plus or for IOS.,
Or if you plan to sell the source code to
I think that's a good suggestion. Thanks for sending the suggestion to
Liam.
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you! really! are! finished!
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From: Phil Vlasak phi...@bex.net
To: Gamers Discussion list
Hi when I start mushz I have to use alt f and down arrow to alter so I don't
know how you got it to start automatically
-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Sarah Haake
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 1:24 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
And rewriting them in BGT would require more time than Liam can spare I'd
imagine, otherwise I'm sure he'd consider it. I personally wouldn't see
releasing those two games as freeware as a slap in the face. It's not like
he'd be making me pay for them again. I respect that there are those who
You and I might disagree with the decision but I don't doubt there are those
who would feel slighted and make their voices heard. I don't think Liam
needs that.
Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
-Original Message-
From: dark
We added autoconnect only a few months ago. You probably installed
from an earlier version that didn't do autoconnect. Running the
updater can update most of your settings, but it won't update the
autoconnect setting.
Dennis Towne
Alter Aeon MUD
http://www.alteraeon.com
On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at
Hi,
thanks John, I'll try that.
I don't know why it doesn't start automatically others, it just was that
way for me all the time.
Best regards
Sarah
Am 07.09.2014 16:51, schrieb wayne17a:
Hi when I start mushz I have to use alt f and down arrow to alter so I don't
know how you got it to
There is a way to set mush to automatically open a world on startup,
but I don't use mush regularly and I'm not currently near my windows
machine to figure it out and post instructions. Next time I fire it
up I'll try to remember to write an autoconnect guide or something.
Dennis Towne
Alter
I'm afraid I disagree phil on the selling of keygen software. That is okay
while it's still being sold, however if as Justin did the software was sold
for a limited time and then stopped you've effectively done the same thing
in denying games to future gamers even on virtual machines etc.
If
Dark,
As a developer, I must disagree with the 'need' aspect of your
statement. Liam doesn't 'need' to do anything - he created the
program with intent to sell it, and he has every right to simply take
it off the shelves and let it rot if he wishes. He's under no
obligation to release anything
Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu
Forwarded Message
I have received a lot of mail from people who have been in support of
me making the games freeware. So This is the process I will start this
week. I can't give a time table,
Then again, they are his work, and he can do as he chooses, regardless of
what we think he should do.
Personally, I like the idea of selling the key generator and the other
software. If I change computers due to a breakdown or an upgrade, I should
be able to play the games on my new machine
- Original Message -
From: Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 8:13 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Fwd: Re: LWorks An update including questions and
answers regarding Super Liam and Judgment day
Hi Dennis.
You are certainly correct that Liam has ownership of the programs being
their creator, however equally given the lack of size of the audio games
community and the lack of games available, there is rather more impetus
riding on each game than in a usual development setting.
There
I just found out about this new site and thought some of you game writers
might be able to use some of these free sound effects:
http://firearmsfx.moonfruit.com/
Dean
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Wow! This sounds amazing! Downloading now. Thanks so much.
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From: Dean Masters dwmaster...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 6:40 PM
To: Audyssey list gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] Free Firearms Sounds Library
I just found out
Dark,
I still disagree. He has no responsibility or duty, and no matter how
rare those kinds of games are, it is firmly not his problem to ensure
they get freely released.
Feeling entitled to always have these games available for any reason,
whether because the games are uncommon or because
Hi Dentin.
I didn't say we were entitled! to the games, only that the scarcity of
such makes them far more important than developers might realize, indeed
this is why Justin Dobemire has recieved so much flack after vanishing with
the Bsc titles.
I don't know what you mean about assembling
Comments inline.
On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 6:42 PM, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
[snip]
I don't know what you mean about assembling the necessary cash for a key
generator sinse I'm not sure what the negotiation would be, sinse to have
the system actually be of bennifit for the hole community the
Hi Dark,
Wile I can certainly sympathize with your point of view I still
disagree with it on principle. It isn't the responsibility of the
developer, in this case Liam, to continue to make his games available
regardless of how large or small the market is. Even if Super Liam was
the one and only
Actually, the number of available games has nothing whatsoever to do with
whether a game or a number of games made by a developer should become free
for all to play.
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you! really! are! finished!
- Original
Hi Dark,
You see, that's where we differ in opinion. I don't think Liam needs
to do anything here. You are em plying that people need these games to
continue to be available even though modern technology makes it
unlikely they will continue to run on modern hardware and software for
ever. Sooner
Hi I don't know the technicle terms and programming
but how can you be a heart breaker?
Liam don't know what is a feeling of love
this is a very bad excuse
can he change the cut seen of super liam's ending?
phil david and other never complained of the shortage they are working
and they will
Hello sir I am not comfortable with thumb so I use my index finger to run.
pinky and ring to fire
thanks
Ishan
On 9/7/14, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Lori,
What I would do in that situation is use my pointer finger, my booger
picking finger, on the control key to fire, and
well aparently its been announced that after a lot of people emailed
him saying that they don't mind, liam is going to make the games free
in the next week or so.
He didn't want to dissapoint people that had brought the games by
making them free, but since a lot want it including me he will do
Well, things like braille displays can break either by a simple drop or just
from nothing at all. My mac has been dropped a few times, and still works fine.
The iPod 4 has cracks in the screen, but it still works. Its maybe 3 years old.
It had never had a case on it though. This new iPod 5 hs a
Hi Lisa,
Me being technically minded would agree with that assessment. A
rewrite would be a hell of a job. Especially, considering the time and
effort that would go into it. Liam has already mentioned he has a
regular 9 to 5 job, and nobody wants to go to work all day and then
have to come home
Cracking is not due to a developer's lack of responsibility. Cracking is
due to people wanting something for nothing, and is stealing.
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Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished,
you! really! are! finished!
- Original Message -
From: Milos Przic
Hi Ishan,
Super Liam didn't die at the end of Super Liam. Liam has repeatedly
stated on a number of occasions Liam doesn't actually die. The scene
was created that way to leave gamers hanging for Super Liam II which
never was created.
The only analogies I can compare it to off the top of my head
He says that it would be wrong to make his games freeware because it would
punish the people who bought them, but by not offering them at this point,
he is punishing people who actually would buy it. So here is what I would
propose.
1. Continue to see the games, with the following disclaimer:
No
Thanks Thomas, I figured you'd know where i was coming from. i feel this
subject is starting to stink with staleness. It's dead, but won't lie
down.
Lisa Hayes
www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes
- Original Message -
From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
To: Gamers
Hi Charles,
Definitely agree. Anyone who purchases a product from someone and it
later goes on sale or is given away for free has no right to gripe
about it. If they do it is just sour grapes on part of the complainer.
These things happen all the time, and it is not the sellers
responsibility to
Hi Dark,
Weather or not Microsoft deserves to be shot over dropping support for
Visual Basic 6 is debatable. I seriously wish you would become an
informed user and study the technical reasons why Microsoft chose to
discontinue certain technologies rather than just blaming them for it.
Then again,
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