[Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks An update including questions and answers regarding Super Liam and Judgment day

2014-09-07 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Hope this is ok to post here. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu Forwarded Message An update including questions and answers regarding Super Liam and Judgment day http://l-works.net?subaction=showfullid=1410066926archive=

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games

2014-09-07 Thread Stephen
What if he decided to rewrite the game in BGT instead? would that work? At 03:12 PM 9/7/2014, you wrote: Dark, Agreed. A lot of audio game developers have just pulled out without any explanations, and what Justin did was just wrong in my opinion. Liam isn't doing himself any favors by not

Re: [Audyssey] Help with playing superliam

2014-09-07 Thread ishan dhami
have you use your pinky? because I use in my desktop and lappy it will work. thanks Ishan On 9/7/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Just try different fingers on the keys until you find what works best for you. It isn't a stretch from the control key to the space bar. --- Be

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games

2014-09-07 Thread ishan dhami
Hi all the example of david greenwood is telling us that specially audio games developers should aware the popularity of their games. like shades of doom is updated but the older version is not discontinued because of the popularity same thing should be apply on super liam Liam erven don't say

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games

2014-09-07 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Lisa and all, If you have not already done so I suggest reading the post forwarded to the list which answers a few questions about Super Liam and Judgement Day. For the most part I completely understand why Liam is doing what he is doing, and I think his explanation makes sense. for those who

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games

2014-09-07 Thread Milos Przic
stealing? Yes and no. Has anyone noticed that Liam decided to drop everything after people complaining about replacement delays? That is only a way how not to show gratitude to custommers. You are right, his software is his, but is also own by those who paid to him. In this comunity I can say

[Audyssey] deathmatch alpha bugs

2014-09-07 Thread shaun everiss
Hi all. I noticed that there was descussion of deathmatch alpha on here as I skimmed through the emails. Since I seem to be one of the reps from reality gaming even though I only do sound and testing I can probably help. There are 2 arieas where there are non working cargo lifts and ladders.

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games

2014-09-07 Thread ishan dhami
Hello thomas sir! how can you say that liam erven will again be a super hero? since he don't give us a news about whether he will update him or not I know that there will be no super liam for us any more. the old developers are going. only david greenwood is stable. Thanks Ishan On 9/6/14,

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games

2014-09-07 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ishan, Let's begin with the fact that audio game developers do not and have never made a lot of money making audio games. It isn't a profitable venture and most developers do so as a hobby or just to make a little money on the side. That is why a few developers startup a company, produce a few

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games

2014-09-07 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ishan, I think you missed the point of that post. My mentioning of possible updates was merely speculation, a possible hypothesis, used to illustrate the fact nobody really knew what his long term intentions were. However, we now have a responce fromm Liam, and his intentions are much more

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games

2014-09-07 Thread Lisa Hayes
Thomas i have read the message and now what he has done makes sense to me. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 9:10 PM Subject:

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games

2014-09-07 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Stephen, Sure. However, given the fact Liam has a 9 to5 job I doubt he really has the time to put into rewriting either game from scratch in BGT. That would resolve support issues, but require more time and effort than I suspect he has to put into a couple of old games. Cheers! On 9/7/14,

Re: [Audyssey] Help with playing superliam

2014-09-07 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Lori, What I would do in that situation is use my pointer finger, my booger picking finger, on the control key to fire, and my thumb to run. That should be a pretty easy stretch even with someone with small hands. Cheers! On 9/6/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi guys, it's

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games

2014-09-07 Thread dark
does anyone know what E-mail address I can contact Liam on? While it is Liam's choice to discontinue support for the software (silly microsoft should be shot for causing this much trouble), I completely disagree with his point that offering the games for free is bad for previous customers.

Re: [Audyssey] making things last

2014-09-07 Thread Charles Rivard
That makes sense. I was thinking that people were saying, Abuse it. If it doesn't hold up, it was defective. Thanks. Taking external hard drives when traveling is something that would normally be done, and they should not suffer from being transported as you describe. --- Be positive!

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games

2014-09-07 Thread Lisa Hayes
And i'd say, me not being technically minded that an entire re write would be a hell of a job to do. Ok we might not like it, but what's done is done and us bitching and griping is not and can't change it. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From:

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games

2014-09-07 Thread Charles Rivard
In my opinion, anyone who gripes because they paid for a game that is now available to other gamers for free due to life changes or other circumstances is just sour grapes on the part of the whiner. I bought a good game at a good price, and I am happy with that. If the game is later offered

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games

2014-09-07 Thread john
I'd just like to point out that we just saw a giant thread of somebody asking if it was indeed possible to get those product keys he claims to be giving out... I'm not trying to say that he's necessarily trying to be dishonest and/or get out of developing without actually saying it, but I do

Re: [Audyssey] making things last

2014-09-07 Thread john
Well said. I just finished drafting a similar post, but you said it far better than I could. -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 1:02 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re:

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks An update including questions and answers regarding Super Liam and Judgment day

2014-09-07 Thread john
Thanks for this. Its great to see some more info. He doesn't say anything about future plans, though. -- From: Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 2:11 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games

2014-09-07 Thread john
Motion seconded, and well said. -- From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 8:53 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games In my

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks An update including questions andanswers regarding Super Liam and Judgment day

2014-09-07 Thread Phil Vlasak
I just posted this message to Liam on the Audio Games Forum, I think Aprone's Swamp is still in Visual Basic 6. I can understand not selling the older versions if you were planning to update them in a different language such as C plus plus or for IOS., Or if you plan to sell the source code to

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks An update including questions andanswersregarding Super Liam and Judgment day

2014-09-07 Thread Charles Rivard
I think that's a good suggestion. Thanks for sending the suggestion to Liam. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak phi...@bex.net To: Gamers Discussion list

Re: [Audyssey] Problem with Mushclient

2014-09-07 Thread wayne17a
Hi when I start mushz I have to use alt f and down arrow to alter so I don't know how you got it to start automatically -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Sarah Haake Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 1:24 PM To: Gamers Discussion list

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games

2014-09-07 Thread Bryan Peterson
And rewriting them in BGT would require more time than Liam can spare I'd imagine, otherwise I'm sure he'd consider it. I personally wouldn't see releasing those two games as freeware as a slap in the face. It's not like he'd be making me pay for them again. I respect that there are those who

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games

2014-09-07 Thread Bryan Peterson
You and I might disagree with the decision but I don't doubt there are those who would feel slighted and make their voices heard. I don't think Liam needs that. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: dark

Re: [Audyssey] Problem with Mushclient

2014-09-07 Thread Dennis Towne
We added autoconnect only a few months ago. You probably installed from an earlier version that didn't do autoconnect. Running the updater can update most of your settings, but it won't update the autoconnect setting. Dennis Towne Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at

Re: [Audyssey] Problem with Mushclient

2014-09-07 Thread Sarah Haake
Hi, thanks John, I'll try that. I don't know why it doesn't start automatically others, it just was that way for me all the time. Best regards Sarah Am 07.09.2014 16:51, schrieb wayne17a: Hi when I start mushz I have to use alt f and down arrow to alter so I don't know how you got it to

Re: [Audyssey] Problem with Mushclient

2014-09-07 Thread Dennis Towne
There is a way to set mush to automatically open a world on startup, but I don't use mush regularly and I'm not currently near my windows machine to figure it out and post instructions. Next time I fire it up I'll try to remember to write an autoconnect guide or something. Dennis Towne Alter

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks An update including questionsandanswersregarding Super Liam and Judgment day

2014-09-07 Thread dark
I'm afraid I disagree phil on the selling of keygen software. That is okay while it's still being sold, however if as Justin did the software was sold for a limited time and then stopped you've effectively done the same thing in denying games to future gamers even on virtual machines etc. If

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks An update including questionsandanswersregarding Super Liam and Judgment day

2014-09-07 Thread Dennis Towne
Dark, As a developer, I must disagree with the 'need' aspect of your statement. Liam doesn't 'need' to do anything - he created the program with intent to sell it, and he has every right to simply take it off the shelves and let it rot if he wishes. He's under no obligation to release anything

[Audyssey] Fwd: Re: LWorks An update including questions and answers regarding Super Liam and Judgment day

2014-09-07 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu Forwarded Message I have received a lot of mail from people who have been in support of me making the games freeware. So This is the process I will start this week. I can't give a time table,

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks An update includingquestionsandanswersregarding Super Liam and Judgment day

2014-09-07 Thread Charles Rivard
Then again, they are his work, and he can do as he chooses, regardless of what we think he should do. Personally, I like the idea of selling the key generator and the other software. If I change computers due to a breakdown or an upgrade, I should be able to play the games on my new machine

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: Re: LWorks An update including questions and answers regarding Super Liam and Judgment day

2014-09-07 Thread dark
- Original Message - From: Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 8:13 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Fwd: Re: LWorks An update including questions and answers regarding Super Liam and Judgment day

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks An update including questionsandanswersregarding Super Liam and Judgment day

2014-09-07 Thread dark
Hi Dennis. You are certainly correct that Liam has ownership of the programs being their creator, however equally given the lack of size of the audio games community and the lack of games available, there is rather more impetus riding on each game than in a usual development setting. There

[Audyssey] Free Firearms Sounds Library

2014-09-07 Thread Dean Masters
I just found out about this new site and thought some of you game writers might be able to use some of these free sound effects: http://firearmsfx.moonfruit.com/ Dean --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to

Re: [Audyssey] Free Firearms Sounds Library

2014-09-07 Thread john
Wow! This sounds amazing! Downloading now. Thanks so much. -- From: Dean Masters dwmaster...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 6:40 PM To: Audyssey list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] Free Firearms Sounds Library I just found out

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks An update including questionsandanswersregarding Super Liam and Judgment day

2014-09-07 Thread Dennis Towne
Dark, I still disagree. He has no responsibility or duty, and no matter how rare those kinds of games are, it is firmly not his problem to ensure they get freely released. Feeling entitled to always have these games available for any reason, whether because the games are uncommon or because

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks An update including questionsandanswersregarding Super Liam and Judgment day

2014-09-07 Thread dark
Hi Dentin. I didn't say we were entitled! to the games, only that the scarcity of such makes them far more important than developers might realize, indeed this is why Justin Dobemire has recieved so much flack after vanishing with the Bsc titles. I don't know what you mean about assembling

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks An update including questionsandanswersregarding Super Liam and Judgment day

2014-09-07 Thread Dennis Towne
Comments inline. On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 6:42 PM, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: [snip] I don't know what you mean about assembling the necessary cash for a key generator sinse I'm not sure what the negotiation would be, sinse to have the system actually be of bennifit for the hole community the

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks An update including questionsandanswersregarding Super Liam and Judgment day

2014-09-07 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Wile I can certainly sympathize with your point of view I still disagree with it on principle. It isn't the responsibility of the developer, in this case Liam, to continue to make his games available regardless of how large or small the market is. Even if Super Liam was the one and only

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks An update includingquestionsandanswersregarding Super Liam and Judgment day

2014-09-07 Thread Charles Rivard
Actually, the number of available games has nothing whatsoever to do with whether a game or a number of games made by a developer should become free for all to play. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks An update including questionsandanswersregarding Super Liam and Judgment day

2014-09-07 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, You see, that's where we differ in opinion. I don't think Liam needs to do anything here. You are em plying that people need these games to continue to be available even though modern technology makes it unlikely they will continue to run on modern hardware and software for ever. Sooner

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games

2014-09-07 Thread ishan dhami
Hi I don't know the technicle terms and programming but how can you be a heart breaker? Liam don't know what is a feeling of love this is a very bad excuse can he change the cut seen of super liam's ending? phil david and other never complained of the shortage they are working and they will

Re: [Audyssey] Help with playing superliam

2014-09-07 Thread ishan dhami
Hello sir I am not comfortable with thumb so I use my index finger to run. pinky and ring to fire thanks Ishan On 9/7/14, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lori, What I would do in that situation is use my pointer finger, my booger picking finger, on the control key to fire, and

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks An update includingquestionsandanswersregarding Super Liam and Judgment day

2014-09-07 Thread shaun everiss
well aparently its been announced that after a lot of people emailed him saying that they don't mind, liam is going to make the games free in the next week or so. He didn't want to dissapoint people that had brought the games by making them free, but since a lot want it including me he will do

Re: [Audyssey] making things last

2014-09-07 Thread Devin Prater
Well, things like braille displays can break either by a simple drop or just from nothing at all. My mac has been dropped a few times, and still works fine. The iPod 4 has cracks in the screen, but it still works. Its maybe 3 years old. It had never had a case on it though. This new iPod 5 hs a

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games

2014-09-07 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Lisa, Me being technically minded would agree with that assessment. A rewrite would be a hell of a job. Especially, considering the time and effort that would go into it. Liam has already mentioned he has a regular 9 to 5 job, and nobody wants to go to work all day and then have to come home

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games

2014-09-07 Thread Charles Rivard
Cracking is not due to a developer's lack of responsibility. Cracking is due to people wanting something for nothing, and is stealing. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Milos Przic

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games

2014-09-07 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ishan, Super Liam didn't die at the end of Super Liam. Liam has repeatedly stated on a number of occasions Liam doesn't actually die. The scene was created that way to leave gamers hanging for Super Liam II which never was created. The only analogies I can compare it to off the top of my head

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games

2014-09-07 Thread Jody McKinniss
He says that it would be wrong to make his games freeware because it would punish the people who bought them, but by not offering them at this point, he is punishing people who actually would buy it. So here is what I would propose. 1. Continue to see the games, with the following disclaimer: No

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games

2014-09-07 Thread Lisa Hayes
Thanks Thomas, I figured you'd know where i was coming from. i feel this subject is starting to stink with staleness. It's dead, but won't lie down. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games

2014-09-07 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Charles, Definitely agree. Anyone who purchases a product from someone and it later goes on sale or is given away for free has no right to gripe about it. If they do it is just sour grapes on part of the complainer. These things happen all the time, and it is not the sellers responsibility to

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games

2014-09-07 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Weather or not Microsoft deserves to be shot over dropping support for Visual Basic 6 is debatable. I seriously wish you would become an informed user and study the technical reasons why Microsoft chose to discontinue certain technologies rather than just blaming them for it. Then again,