Re: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games.
Hi Ari, Well, to be honest about it my personal opinion is that Emacspeak and the Emacs text games are highly over rated. Emacspeak does support some software speech engines, but I have never liked it for the fact it is restricted to the Emacs environment. As for the Emacs text games they are basically stuff like hangman and soletaire. Nothing to write home about. If you are looking for the best speech solution going it is Orca which comes with Ubuntu 7.10 already pre-configured to work with Espeak TTS for Linux. With Orca you can do some web based games like Sryth once you get the hang of Firefox for Linux with Orca, and you also can use z code interpretors for text adventures. Your gaming and over all options are greatly improved by using Orca Which is why I will be showing off Orca and allot of Gnome desktop applications in my podcast on Linux accessibility. However, as for doing one on the Ubuntu install, partitioning drives, etc that will be a long time coming, but I may do one someday. The problem is my Linux system is a stand alone system, no Windows on it, and it is currently up to date. I don't want to kill my Linux installation just to do a podcast. Though, I will show you an accessible way to upgrade an existing Linux installation from say 7.10 to 8.x when it comes out. Before I close this email I will just say this about the accessible cd install. The command isn't f2. When the Ubuntu Live cd boots it will come to a boot options screen. The only way I can usually tell it is there is because the cd rom drive stops spinning for 30 seconds or so. You need to press f5 for the accessible installations options, and arrow to install with screen reader support. The menu looks something like this. None High Contrast Screen Magnifyer Screen Reader There are some other options after screen reader, but I have never used them. if you select screen reader it will allow you to do the install using Orca. Any further questions non-game related should probably go to me personally. Cheers. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games.
oops, sorry Thomas, didn't know you closed the topic, but really please do some podcasts. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games.
Please Thomas do one! I had a problem that when I tried to boot from the live CD, apparrently you press f2 and then 4, but it didn't start talking, you actually have to run a gnome-terminal and everything which I haven't tried yet, but please do it and can you talk about how to partition a harddrive using the installer, because that's what I'd like to do, a small portion of the HD for linux. And then, could you do one about how to get emacspeak with text-based games under emacs, but first how to install emacspeak? Can it run under a software synth? Thanks Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games.
yes! pleas.I'll thank you for ever! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games. Hi Valiant, Since general operating system and screen reader tech is off topic for the list I won't go into any depth on list, but I can always be asked questions off list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I will answer it as soon as I can get to it. However, I think I will be doing a pod cast series on Linux since there are allot of users out there who want to try it, but don't know enough how to get started so they just give up. Valiant (on laptop) wrote: Hello. If you get the urge to do that podcast you mentioned, I'm sure going to be giving it a listen. You know what, I think lots of peeps will. Lots of us are going hmm, I wanna do it, but how's it work. I tried it already, but I didn't get very far, cause I was a bit uninformed. I didn't know about hitting alt+f2 and then typing orca. So I was stuck with a sighted wise guy trying to figure it out. He's a computer geek, but he didn't make it anywhere. I bet you've got a whole cloud full of folks who'd break their necks to download and give that one a listen, and I'd be grateful for certains, can't speak for nobody else. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 2682 (20071123) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games.
Hello. If you get the urge to do that podcast you mentioned, I'm sure going to be giving it a listen. You know what, I think lots of peeps will. Lots of us are going hmm, I wanna do it, but how's it work. I tried it already, but I didn't get very far, cause I was a bit uninformed. I didn't know about hitting alt+f2 and then typing orca. So I was stuck with a sighted wise guy trying to figure it out. He's a computer geek, but he didn't make it anywhere. I bet you've got a whole cloud full of folks who'd break their necks to download and give that one a listen, and I'd be grateful for certains, can't speak for nobody else. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games. Hi Kuvvosh, The Linux you want to get is Ubuntu Linux 7.10 found at http://www.ubuntu.com Perhaps sometime I should do a blind cool tech pod cast on doing a Linux install with speech which is very accesible. You basically boot the cd rom, log in, start orca, let it log out, log back in restart orca, and you can do the install with speech. There are a few steps involved getting the setup going with speech, but it is easy after you do it the first time or have someone walk you through the setup once. Kuvvosh wrote: Where Oh Where do I get a Linux that has a talking installer? I've looked up and down for a copy, and yet not found one. I used to use linux back in the days but, have yet found one with a talking installer. I hope there is one of Mandrake I love that disco. Kuvvosh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games.
Hi. This is interesting. I keep on getting messages with quotes where I can't puzzle out where the actual answer to the quoter is, and then I get messages with answers but no quotes, so I've got to guess at who we're replying to. Am I missing something? or can something be done to solve this problem, is it me? nobody else has mentioned it since I joined. Yes, I saw that little thing in the welcome about how there's limit on thread size, so that they don't get so big, but dang, it seams to me that it makes these messages a little more pointless, since you can't piece together all the useful things you get to get the complete answer lists like this one are so brilliant at providing. - Original Message - From: Mike Reiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games. Kuvvosh wrote: Where Oh Where do I get a Linux that has a talking installer? I've looked up and down for a copy, and yet not found one. I used to use linux back in the days but, have yet found one with a talking installer. I hope there is one of Mandrake I love that disco. Kuvvosh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] buntu is quite good, comes with espeak and orca. Mike --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games.
Hi Valiant, Since general operating system and screen reader tech is off topic for the list I won't go into any depth on list, but I can always be asked questions off list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I will answer it as soon as I can get to it. However, I think I will be doing a pod cast series on Linux since there are allot of users out there who want to try it, but don't know enough how to get started so they just give up. Valiant (on laptop) wrote: Hello. If you get the urge to do that podcast you mentioned, I'm sure going to be giving it a listen. You know what, I think lots of peeps will. Lots of us are going hmm, I wanna do it, but how's it work. I tried it already, but I didn't get very far, cause I was a bit uninformed. I didn't know about hitting alt+f2 and then typing orca. So I was stuck with a sighted wise guy trying to figure it out. He's a computer geek, but he didn't make it anywhere. I bet you've got a whole cloud full of folks who'd break their necks to download and give that one a listen, and I'd be grateful for certains, can't speak for nobody else. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games.
Where Oh Where do I get a Linux that has a talking installer? I've looked up and down for a copy, and yet not found one. I used to use linux back in the days but, have yet found one with a talking installer. I hope there is one of Mandrake I love that disco. Kuvvosh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games.
Hi. UBUNTU? http://ubuntu.org - Original Message - From: Kuvvosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 1:40 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games. Where Oh Where do I get a Linux that has a talking installer? I've looked up and down for a copy, and yet not found one. I used to use linux back in the days but, have yet found one with a talking installer. I hope there is one of Mandrake I love that disco. Kuvvosh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games.
Hi Kuvvosh, The Linux you want to get is Ubuntu Linux 7.10 found at http://www.ubuntu.com Perhaps sometime I should do a blind cool tech pod cast on doing a Linux install with speech which is very accesible. You basically boot the cd rom, log in, start orca, let it log out, log back in restart orca, and you can do the install with speech. There are a few steps involved getting the setup going with speech, but it is easy after you do it the first time or have someone walk you through the setup once. Kuvvosh wrote: Where Oh Where do I get a Linux that has a talking installer? I've looked up and down for a copy, and yet not found one. I used to use linux back in the days but, have yet found one with a talking installer. I hope there is one of Mandrake I love that disco. Kuvvosh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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That would be nice lol, I need to update the Windows Home Server Pod Cast I did, I found out that Jaws will crash a Home server lol So, be warned anybody that try to install jaws on WHS took me a few hours of figuring out how to fix the probs with little to no help. Looks Like Window Eyes is far better on Server stuff then Jawsy. Peace. Kuvvosh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 2:29 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games. Hi Kuvvosh, The Linux you want to get is Ubuntu Linux 7.10 found at http://www.ubuntu.com Perhaps sometime I should do a blind cool tech pod cast on doing a Linux install with speech which is very accesible. You basically boot the cd rom, log in, start orca, let it log out, log back in restart orca, and you can do the install with speech. There are a few steps involved getting the setup going with speech, but it is easy after you do it the first time or have someone walk you through the setup once. Kuvvosh wrote: Where Oh Where do I get a Linux that has a talking installer? I've looked up and down for a copy, and yet not found one. I used to use linux back in the days but, have yet found one with a talking installer. I hope there is one of Mandrake I love that disco. Kuvvosh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games.
Hi Kuvvosh, Yes, Window Eyes generally does better on server software, but that is a topic way off topic for this list.. So let's stay on track with gaming. Kuvvosh wrote: That would be nice lol, I need to update the Windows Home Server Pod Cast I did, I found out that Jaws will crash a Home server lol So, be warned anybody that try to install jaws on WHS took me a few hours of figuring out how to fix the probs with little to no help. Looks Like Window Eyes is far better on Server stuff then Jawsy. Peace. Kuvvosh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games.
Kuvvosh wrote: Where Oh Where do I get a Linux that has a talking installer? I've looked up and down for a copy, and yet not found one. I used to use linux back in the days but, have yet found one with a talking installer. I hope there is one of Mandrake I love that disco. Kuvvosh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] buntu is quite good, comes with espeak and orca. Mike --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]