Re: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games.

2008-01-06 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ari,
Well, to be honest about it my personal opinion is that Emacspeak and 
the Emacs text games are highly over rated. Emacspeak does support some 
software speech engines, but I have never liked it for the fact it is 
restricted to the Emacs environment. As for the Emacs text games they 
are basically stuff like hangman and soletaire. Nothing to write home about.
If you are looking for the best speech solution going it is Orca which 
comes with Ubuntu 7.10 already pre-configured to work with Espeak TTS 
for Linux. With Orca you can do some web based games like Sryth once you 
get the hang of Firefox for Linux with Orca, and you also can use z code 
interpretors for text adventures. Your gaming and over all options are 
greatly improved by using Orca Which is why I will be showing off Orca 
and allot of Gnome desktop applications in my podcast on Linux 
accessibility.
However, as for doing one on the Ubuntu install, partitioning drives, 
etc that will be a long time coming, but I may do one someday. The 
problem is my Linux system is a stand alone system, no Windows on it, 
and it is currently up to date. I don't want to kill my Linux 
installation just to do a podcast. Though, I will show you an accessible 
way to upgrade an existing Linux installation from say 7.10 to 8.x when 
it comes out.
Before I close this email I will just say this about the accessible cd 
install. The command isn't f2. When the Ubuntu Live cd boots it will 
come to a boot options screen. The only way I can usually tell it is 
there is because the cd rom drive stops spinning for 30 seconds or so. 
You need to press f5 for the accessible installations options, and arrow 
to install with screen reader support. The menu looks something like this.

None
High Contrast
Screen Magnifyer
Screen Reader

There are some other options after screen reader, but I have never used 
them. if you select screen reader it will allow you to do the install 
using Orca.
Any further questions non-game related should probably go to me personally.
Cheers.


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Re: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games.

2008-01-05 Thread ari
oops, sorry Thomas, didn't know you closed the topic, but really please do 
some podcasts.
Ari 


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Re: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games.

2008-01-05 Thread ari
Please Thomas do one! I had a problem that when I tried to boot from the 
live CD, apparrently you press f2 and then 4, but it didn't start talking, 
you actually have to run a gnome-terminal and everything which I haven't 
tried yet, but please do it and can you talk about how to partition a 
harddrive using the installer, because that's what I'd like to do, a small 
portion of the HD for linux. And then, could you do one about how to get 
emacspeak with text-based games under emacs, but first how to install 
emacspeak? Can it run under a software synth?
Thanks
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Re: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games.

2008-01-04 Thread Cory
yes! pleas.I'll thank you for ever!
- Original Message - 
From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games.


 Hi Valiant,
 Since general operating system and screen reader tech is off topic for
 the list I won't go into any depth on list, but I can always be asked
 questions off list at
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 and I will answer it as soon as I can get to it. However, I think I will
 be doing a pod cast series on Linux since there are allot of users out
 there who want to try it, but don't know enough how to get started so
 they just give up.

 Valiant (on laptop) wrote:
 Hello.
 If you get the urge to do that podcast you mentioned, I'm sure going to 
 be
 giving it a listen. You know what, I think lots of peeps will. Lots of us
 are going hmm, I wanna do it, but how's it work. I tried it already, but 
 I
 didn't get very far, cause I was a bit uninformed. I didn't know about
 hitting alt+f2 and then typing orca. So I was stuck with a sighted wise 
 guy
 trying to figure it out. He's a computer geek, but he didn't make it
 anywhere. I bet you've got a whole cloud full of folks who'd break their
 necks to download and give that one a listen, and I'd be grateful for
 certains, can't speak for nobody else.



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Re: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games.

2008-01-04 Thread Valiant (on laptop)
Hello.
If you get the urge to do that podcast you mentioned, I'm sure going to be 
giving it a listen. You know what, I think lots of peeps will. Lots of us 
are going hmm, I wanna do it, but how's it work. I tried it already, but I 
didn't get very far, cause I was a bit uninformed. I didn't know about 
hitting alt+f2 and then typing orca. So I was stuck with a sighted wise guy 
trying to figure it out. He's a computer geek, but he didn't make it 
anywhere. I bet you've got a whole cloud full of folks who'd break their 
necks to download and give that one a listen, and I'd be grateful for 
certains, can't speak for nobody else.
- Original Message - 
From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games.


 Hi Kuvvosh,
 The Linux you want to get is Ubuntu Linux 7.10 found at
 http://www.ubuntu.com
 Perhaps sometime I should do a blind cool tech pod cast on doing a Linux
 install with speech which is very accesible. You basically boot the cd
 rom, log in, start orca, let it log out, log back in restart orca, and
 you can do the install with speech. There are a few steps involved
 getting the setup going with speech, but it is easy after you do it the
 first time or have someone walk you through the setup once.


 Kuvvosh wrote:
 Where Oh Where do I get a Linux that has a talking installer?  I've 
 looked
 up and down for a copy, and yet not  found one.  I used to use linux back 
 in
 the days but, have yet found one with a talking installer.  I hope there 
 is
 one of Mandrake I love that disco.



 Kuvvosh

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Re: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games.

2008-01-04 Thread Valiant (on laptop)
Hi.
This is interesting.
I keep on getting messages with quotes where I can't puzzle out where the 
actual answer to the quoter is, and then I get messages with answers but no 
quotes, so I've got to guess at who we're replying to. Am I missing 
something? or can something be done to solve this problem, is it me? nobody 
else has mentioned it since I joined. Yes, I saw that little thing in the 
welcome about how there's  limit on thread size, so that they don't get so 
big, but dang, it seams to me that it makes these messages a little more 
pointless, since you can't piece together all the useful things you get to 
get the complete answer lists like this one are so brilliant at providing.
- Original Message - 
From: Mike Reiser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games.


 Kuvvosh wrote:
 Where Oh Where do I get a Linux that has a talking installer?  I've 
 looked
 up and down for a copy, and yet not  found one.  I used to use linux back 
 in
 the days but, have yet found one with a talking installer.  I hope there 
 is
 one of Mandrake I love that disco.



 Kuvvosh

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 buntu is quite good, comes with espeak and orca.

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Re: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games.

2008-01-04 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Valiant,
Since general operating system and screen reader tech is off topic for 
the list I won't go into any depth on list, but I can always be asked 
questions off list at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
and I will answer it as soon as I can get to it. However, I think I will 
be doing a pod cast series on Linux since there are allot of users out 
there who want to try it, but don't know enough how to get started so 
they just give up.

Valiant (on laptop) wrote:
 Hello.
 If you get the urge to do that podcast you mentioned, I'm sure going to be 
 giving it a listen. You know what, I think lots of peeps will. Lots of us 
 are going hmm, I wanna do it, but how's it work. I tried it already, but I 
 didn't get very far, cause I was a bit uninformed. I didn't know about 
 hitting alt+f2 and then typing orca. So I was stuck with a sighted wise guy 
 trying to figure it out. He's a computer geek, but he didn't make it 
 anywhere. I bet you've got a whole cloud full of folks who'd break their 
 necks to download and give that one a listen, and I'd be grateful for 
 certains, can't speak for nobody else.
   


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[Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games.

2008-01-02 Thread Kuvvosh
Where Oh Where do I get a Linux that has a talking installer?  I've looked
up and down for a copy, and yet not  found one.  I used to use linux back in
the days but, have yet found one with a talking installer.  I hope there is
one of Mandrake I love that disco.

 

Kuvvosh

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Re: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games.

2008-01-02 Thread Valiant (on laptop)
Hi.
UBUNTU?
http://ubuntu.org
- Original Message - 
From: Kuvvosh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 1:40 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games.


 Where Oh Where do I get a Linux that has a talking installer?  I've looked
 up and down for a copy, and yet not  found one.  I used to use linux back 
 in
 the days but, have yet found one with a talking installer.  I hope there 
 is
 one of Mandrake I love that disco.



 Kuvvosh

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Re: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games.

2008-01-02 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Kuvvosh,
The Linux you want to get is Ubuntu Linux 7.10 found at
http://www.ubuntu.com
Perhaps sometime I should do a blind cool tech pod cast on doing a Linux 
install with speech which is very accesible. You basically boot the cd 
rom, log in, start orca, let it log out, log back in restart orca, and 
you can do the install with speech. There are a few steps involved 
getting the setup going with speech, but it is easy after you do it the 
first time or have someone walk you through the setup once.
 

Kuvvosh wrote:
 Where Oh Where do I get a Linux that has a talking installer?  I've looked
 up and down for a copy, and yet not  found one.  I used to use linux back in
 the days but, have yet found one with a talking installer.  I hope there is
 one of Mandrake I love that disco.

  

 Kuvvosh

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Re: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games.

2008-01-02 Thread Kuvvosh
That would be nice lol, I need to update the Windows Home Server Pod Cast I
did, I found out that Jaws will crash a Home server lol So, be warned
anybody that try to install jaws on WHS took me a few hours of figuring out
how to fix the probs with little to no help.

Looks Like Window Eyes is far better on Server stuff then Jawsy.

Peace.

Kuvvosh

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Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 2:29 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games.

Hi Kuvvosh,
The Linux you want to get is Ubuntu Linux 7.10 found at
http://www.ubuntu.com
Perhaps sometime I should do a blind cool tech pod cast on doing a Linux 
install with speech which is very accesible. You basically boot the cd 
rom, log in, start orca, let it log out, log back in restart orca, and 
you can do the install with speech. There are a few steps involved 
getting the setup going with speech, but it is easy after you do it the 
first time or have someone walk you through the setup once.
 

Kuvvosh wrote:
 Where Oh Where do I get a Linux that has a talking installer?  I've looked
 up and down for a copy, and yet not  found one.  I used to use linux back
in
 the days but, have yet found one with a talking installer.  I hope there
is
 one of Mandrake I love that disco.

  

 Kuvvosh

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Re: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games.

2008-01-02 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Kuvvosh,
Yes, Window Eyes generally does better on server software, but that is a 
topic way off topic for this list.. So let's stay on track with gaming.

Kuvvosh wrote:
 That would be nice lol, I need to update the Windows Home Server Pod Cast I
 did, I found out that Jaws will crash a Home server lol So, be warned
 anybody that try to install jaws on WHS took me a few hours of figuring out
 how to fix the probs with little to no help.

 Looks Like Window Eyes is far better on Server stuff then Jawsy.

 Peace.

 Kuvvosh
   


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Re: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games.

2008-01-02 Thread Mike Reiser
Kuvvosh wrote:
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 up and down for a copy, and yet not  found one.  I used to use linux back in
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buntu is quite good, comes with espeak and orca. 

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