Re: [Audyssey] USA game web site?
Hello Thomas! Sorry, but i musst correct you. The system is not called Symbion. It is called Symbian. Regards, Claudio. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Like the old Ventures tune, Walk, don't run. -- Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ, and the American Soldier. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] USA game web site? Hi Corry and all, I know some of you are excited about the potential of supporting smart phones, but my feeling is this. First, it is imparative that USA Games finishes our tests using the Java platform for games. Second, we need to build a stable and working engine to base games on. Third, build a working game which is tested on Mac, Linux, and Windows. After that we can then think about what comes next such as supporting smart phones, PDA's, and other devices. I would like to state I am not uninterested in supporting smart phones. Actually, I think it would be a giant leap in access gaming technology. However, the research and basic tools, tool kits, and code base must be designed from the ground up before we can expand in to new and perhaps untapped markets. Before designing on a new platform a company needs to write test applications, simple test games, for that market to make sure the developer knows how to target the platform correctly. For example, assume I wanted to target a smart phone. I am new to the j2me platform, new to writing games for phones, and want to start off easy. The last thing I want to do is port a major production game to the phone and find out I did it wrong. Instead of beginning with the very large game, which takes several hours of man power, I might write something smaller like Space Invaders, Empire Strikes Back, or Monopoly. Basicly design something I can get results quickly and debug my code and learn what I did right and wrong with a simple app rather than a large app. Cory wrote: I think you have a lot more smart phone users than ya think. Including me. Might be worth at least taking a pole? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I too would play it on my phone. James Scholes http://www.jamesscholes.com -- From: Cory [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 2:41 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] USA game web site? I think you have a lot more smart phone users than ya think. Including me. Might be worth at least taking a pole? - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] USA game web site? Hi Kuvvosh, I'm not going to say that is impossible, but the initial version if I use Java 2 SE would be mainly designed for PC and Mac platforms. I'd have to convert the Java code from J2SE to J2ME to support smart phones, PDA's, and other devices that use the Java Mobile Eddition. While that isn't a super dificult task I'd have to know it would be worth my time and money to convert the game to support phones. Kuvvosh wrote: Oh wow, Java format? Would that mean it would be able to run on my New Smart phone then? That would be great. . . Kuvvosh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 2912 (20080229) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 2913 (20080301) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Charles, Quite right. When learning to program or to target an unknown platform you really do have to learn to walk before you can run. Smile Charles Rivard wrote: Like the old Ventures tune, Walk, don't run. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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hi are we on about the mysteries o the aztec game here? On 29 Feb 2008, at 13:04, Kuvvosh wrote: Hi Thomas, if it just a simple fact of a few key strokes to convert it to Smart phone than I would do it, as I have a Smart phone with Java, and there are a ton of us in the Mobile Speak Community that would love to have games to play. Maybe charge for a Smart Phone version. And see how it goes. Wouldn't be much diff from pc to Smart phone version, as move back and forth and up and down and jump. While the ones with the keyboard could do more. Kuvvosh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:gamers- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:34 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] USA game web site? Hi Kuvvosh, I'm not going to say that is impossible, but the initial version if I use Java 2 SE would be mainly designed for PC and Mac platforms. I'd have to convert the Java code from J2SE to J2ME to support smart phones, PDA's, and other devices that use the Java Mobile Eddition. While that isn't a super dificult task I'd have to know it would be worth my time and money to convert the game to support phones. Kuvvosh wrote: Oh wow, Java format? Would that mean it would be able to run on my New Smart phone then? That would be great. . . Kuvvosh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] USA game web site?
Hi Thomas, if it just a simple fact of a few key strokes to convert it to Smart phone than I would do it, as I have a Smart phone with Java, and there are a ton of us in the Mobile Speak Community that would love to have games to play. Maybe charge for a Smart Phone version. And see how it goes. Wouldn't be much diff from pc to Smart phone version, as move back and forth and up and down and jump. While the ones with the keyboard could do more. Kuvvosh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:34 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] USA game web site? Hi Kuvvosh, I'm not going to say that is impossible, but the initial version if I use Java 2 SE would be mainly designed for PC and Mac platforms. I'd have to convert the Java code from J2SE to J2ME to support smart phones, PDA's, and other devices that use the Java Mobile Eddition. While that isn't a super dificult task I'd have to know it would be worth my time and money to convert the game to support phones. Kuvvosh wrote: Oh wow, Java format? Would that mean it would be able to run on my New Smart phone then? That would be great. . . Kuvvosh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi William, Yes, that is one of the games under concideration for cross platform conversion using Java. The more i look at what needs to be done it would be actually more rational to convert the game to Java making the changes, bug fixes, as I convert the code from C# to Java. As it happens I have actually converted several of the games core classes from C# to Java, and should have an engine to begin programming the new game with by next week. So anyway that is what this is all about. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Kuvvosh, Well, one question I have about Mobile Speak is how well does it handle Java applications. For example, how well does it do with Java dialog boxes written using the swing API. There are some things like the registration form that would need to be accessible to Mobile Speak. As far as conversion goes I haven't tried converting an entire game from J2SE to J2ME, and probably the hardest part is reading up on differences between the two platforms. However, the main reason I am looking at converting to Java is I recognise there is a growing need, desire, to have accessible games available on other platforms and devices besides Windows. The Mac Visionaries list and the blind Linux mailing lists are just an example of the growing blind community of members who are moving away from Windows usage and branching out into new operating systems and platforms. Then, there is special devices like smart phones and the Pacmates which can be targeted for accessible game development, but currently are not. A lot of the problem here is most accessible games are based on Windows technologies such as VB 6 and DirectX rather than on more cross platform solutions. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello Thomas! About what game do you talk? About raceway? Regards, Claudio. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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As much as I think it would be cool, I'd much rather you spend your time on PC games, unless you have a bit extra, but I for one don't have a smartphone, but a pac mate- but, I'd be more likely to play games on the laptop or desktop. just my thoughts Have a good day from Tyler C. Wood! contact details: email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:34 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] USA game web site? Hi Kuvvosh, I'm not going to say that is impossible, but the initial version if I use Java 2 SE would be mainly designed for PC and Mac platforms. I'd have to convert the Java code from J2SE to J2ME to support smart phones, PDA's, and other devices that use the Java Mobile Eddition. While that isn't a super dificult task I'd have to know it would be worth my time and money to convert the game to support phones. Kuvvosh wrote: Oh wow, Java format? Would that mean it would be able to run on my New Smart phone then? That would be great. . . Kuvvosh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.2/1304 - Release Date: 29/02/2008 8:18 AM --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, Will this be at all possible with USA raceway? I'd have fun playing it on the pac mate if that's the case;it sounds like it could be fun, if the pac mate would support it. Have a good day from Tyler C. Wood! contact details: email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] USA game web site? Hi Kuvvosh, Well, one question I have about Mobile Speak is how well does it handle Java applications. For example, how well does it do with Java dialog boxes written using the swing API. There are some things like the registration form that would need to be accessible to Mobile Speak. As far as conversion goes I haven't tried converting an entire game from J2SE to J2ME, and probably the hardest part is reading up on differences between the two platforms. However, the main reason I am looking at converting to Java is I recognise there is a growing need, desire, to have accessible games available on other platforms and devices besides Windows. The Mac Visionaries list and the blind Linux mailing lists are just an example of the growing blind community of members who are moving away from Windows usage and branching out into new operating systems and platforms. Then, there is special devices like smart phones and the Pacmates which can be targeted for accessible game development, but currently are not. A lot of the problem here is most accessible games are based on Windows technologies such as VB 6 and DirectX rather than on more cross platform solutions. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.2/1304 - Release Date: 29/02/2008 8:18 AM --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I think you have a lot more smart phone users than ya think. Including me. Might be worth at least taking a pole? - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] USA game web site? Hi Kuvvosh, I'm not going to say that is impossible, but the initial version if I use Java 2 SE would be mainly designed for PC and Mac platforms. I'd have to convert the Java code from J2SE to J2ME to support smart phones, PDA's, and other devices that use the Java Mobile Eddition. While that isn't a super dificult task I'd have to know it would be worth my time and money to convert the game to support phones. Kuvvosh wrote: Oh wow, Java format? Would that mean it would be able to run on my New Smart phone then? That would be great. . . Kuvvosh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 2912 (20080229) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Claudio, Well, my research into Java based audio games would apply to all of my future games, but specificly at the moment my primary research is about porting Mysteries Of The Aztecs to a Java platform so that it can be operating system independant. I do think however it would be very cool to port Raceway to Mac and Linux as well. Though, it would lose some of its current features which would not be so cool. Claudio wrote: Hello Thomas! About what game do you talk? About raceway? Regards, Claudio. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, Well, at the moment my primary focus is still on PC games and Windows games since that is still the largest section of users of accessible games, and Java access issues and solutions on Mac, Windows, and Linux for me is solvable. For example, I recently discovered a new Window toolkit for Java called swt which is a pretty nice alternative to swing. With swt I would be able to expose application elements like buttons, message boxes, edit fields, etc with a standard Win32 interface. The reason that is important is Java apps using swt do not require the Java access bridge, and are accessible with Window Eyes, NVDA, Jaws, etc right out of the box. Even more importantly there are efforts to port swt to make OS X and Linux which allows swt applications for window elements to be recompiled for Mac and Linux and expose Windows using Cocoa or GTK+2 which would make the apps accessible to VoiceOver and Orca directly out of the box. Obviously, my research is still in the early stages, but I think swt might be a very good choice for USA Games so that I do not have to worry about if the access bridge is running on Mac, Windows, and Linux correctly and if said screen reader has access bridge support to begin with. constantine (on laptop) wrote: As much as I think it would be cool, I'd much rather you spend your time on PC games, unless you have a bit extra, but I for one don't have a smartphone, but a pac mate- but, I'd be more likely to play games on the laptop or desktop. just my thoughts Have a good day from Tyler C. Wood! contact details: email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: the_conman283 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, It is possible. Raceway has the basic engine in place, and it isn't at all impossible to port it to Java and then make it run on Mac, Linux, and Windows operating systems. constantine (on laptop) wrote: Hi, Will this be at all possible with USA raceway? I'd have fun playing it on the pac mate if that's the case;it sounds like it could be fun, if the pac mate would support it. Have a good day from Tyler C. Wood! contact details: email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: the_conman283 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Corry and all, I know some of you are excited about the potential of supporting smart phones, but my feeling is this. First, it is imparative that USA Games finishes our tests using the Java platform for games. Second, we need to build a stable and working engine to base games on. Third, build a working game which is tested on Mac, Linux, and Windows. After that we can then think about what comes next such as supporting smart phones, PDA's, and other devices. I would like to state I am not uninterested in supporting smart phones. Actually, I think it would be a giant leap in access gaming technology. However, the research and basic tools, tool kits, and code base must be designed from the ground up before we can expand in to new and perhaps untapped markets. Before designing on a new platform a company needs to write test applications, simple test games, for that market to make sure the developer knows how to target the platform correctly. For example, assume I wanted to target a smart phone. I am new to the j2me platform, new to writing games for phones, and want to start off easy. The last thing I want to do is port a major production game to the phone and find out I did it wrong. Instead of beginning with the very large game, which takes several hours of man power, I might write something smaller like Space Invaders, Empire Strikes Back, or Monopoly. Basicly design something I can get results quickly and debug my code and learn what I did right and wrong with a simple app rather than a large app. Cory wrote: I think you have a lot more smart phone users than ya think. Including me. Might be worth at least taking a pole? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thomas, have you checked into JInput? I believe it supports steering wheels etc as well as force feedback. what features of raceway were you commenting on?… Smiles, CQ :) On Feb 29, 2008, at 5:03 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Claudio, Well, my research into Java based audio games would apply to all of my future games, but specificly at the moment my primary research is about porting Mysteries Of The Aztecs to a Java platform so that it can be operating system independant. I do think however it would be very cool to port Raceway to Mac and Linux as well. Though, it would lose some of its current features which would not be so cool. Claudio wrote: Hello Thomas! About what game do you talk? About raceway? Regards, Claudio. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Cara, Indeed I have. There is a link to JInput on the USA Games dev center http://developers.usagames.us which takes you directly to the JInput home page. Anyway, I am not as concerned over joysticks, force feedback wheels, etc as losing Sapi 5 support on non-Windows platforms. There are a handful of gamers interested in being able to edit the list of drivers, sponsors, etc. To do that you need a qualified speech engine like Sapi to speak the contents of the file rather than pre-recorded speech. I imagine there is an easy enough solution like recording the wav files using Eloquence, and then letting the users be able to record a new driver15.wav file replacing the name Joe Smo with Jeff Gordon. So that is one possability. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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well Its not smartphones I want games for but also the games using the simbion os. At 02:43 p.m. 1/03/2008, you wrote: Hi Corry and all, I know some of you are excited about the potential of supporting smart phones, but my feeling is this. First, it is imparative that USA Games finishes our tests using the Java platform for games. Second, we need to build a stable and working engine to base games on. Third, build a working game which is tested on Mac, Linux, and Windows. After that we can then think about what comes next such as supporting smart phones, PDA's, and other devices. I would like to state I am not uninterested in supporting smart phones. Actually, I think it would be a giant leap in access gaming technology. However, the research and basic tools, tool kits, and code base must be designed from the ground up before we can expand in to new and perhaps untapped markets. Before designing on a new platform a company needs to write test applications, simple test games, for that market to make sure the developer knows how to target the platform correctly. For example, assume I wanted to target a smart phone. I am new to the j2me platform, new to writing games for phones, and want to start off easy. The last thing I want to do is port a major production game to the phone and find out I did it wrong. Instead of beginning with the very large game, which takes several hours of man power, I might write something smaller like Space Invaders, Empire Strikes Back, or Monopoly. Basicly design something I can get results quickly and debug my code and learn what I did right and wrong with a simple app rather than a large app. Cory wrote: I think you have a lot more smart phone users than ya think. Including me. Might be worth at least taking a pole? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Shaun, Ok? your message didn't make a lot of sense. The Symbion OS is the primary operating system for smart phones, cellular devices, etc. I can think of some brands like Nokia that uses Symbion almost exclusively in there cellular devices. So obviously an accessible game to run on Nokia phones it would have to support Symbion OS which Symbion OS does support Java J2ME apps. That other smart phone os, Windows Mobile, supports J2ME apps as well so that is not a huge issue from were I sit. shaun everiss wrote: well Its not smartphones I want games for but also the games using the simbion os. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ah Thomas, you can see I've visited the website lately! lol! anyway, very cool and I'd forgotten about SAPI as an issue, but I too, would think there's got to be some sort of reasonable work around as you suggest. Smiles, Cara :) On Feb 29, 2008, at 6:07 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Cara, Indeed I have. There is a link to JInput on the USA Games dev center http://developers.usagames.us which takes you directly to the JInput home page. Anyway, I am not as concerned over joysticks, force feedback wheels, etc as losing Sapi 5 support on non-Windows platforms. There are a handful of gamers interested in being able to edit the list of drivers, sponsors, etc. To do that you need a qualified speech engine like Sapi to speak the contents of the file rather than pre-recorded speech. I imagine there is an easy enough solution like recording the wav files using Eloquence, and then letting the users be able to record a new driver15.wav file replacing the name Joe Smo with Jeff Gordon. So that is one possability. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I get ya. Keep us poasted. Later - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] USA game web site? Hi Corry and all, I know some of you are excited about the potential of supporting smart phones, but my feeling is this. First, it is imparative that USA Games finishes our tests using the Java platform for games. Second, we need to build a stable and working engine to base games on. Third, build a working game which is tested on Mac, Linux, and Windows. After that we can then think about what comes next such as supporting smart phones, PDA's, and other devices. I would like to state I am not uninterested in supporting smart phones. Actually, I think it would be a giant leap in access gaming technology. However, the research and basic tools, tool kits, and code base must be designed from the ground up before we can expand in to new and perhaps untapped markets. Before designing on a new platform a company needs to write test applications, simple test games, for that market to make sure the developer knows how to target the platform correctly. For example, assume I wanted to target a smart phone. I am new to the j2me platform, new to writing games for phones, and want to start off easy. The last thing I want to do is port a major production game to the phone and find out I did it wrong. Instead of beginning with the very large game, which takes several hours of man power, I might write something smaller like Space Invaders, Empire Strikes Back, or Monopoly. Basicly design something I can get results quickly and debug my code and learn what I did right and wrong with a simple app rather than a large app. Cory wrote: I think you have a lot more smart phone users than ya think. Including me. Might be worth at least taking a pole? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 2913 (20080301) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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aah. I thought windows mobile was only on smartphones and simbian was only on the high end phones that were not smartphones. At 03:41 p.m. 1/03/2008, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Ok? your message didn't make a lot of sense. The Symbion OS is the primary operating system for smart phones, cellular devices, etc. I can think of some brands like Nokia that uses Symbion almost exclusively in there cellular devices. So obviously an accessible game to run on Nokia phones it would have to support Symbion OS which Symbion OS does support Java J2ME apps. That other smart phone os, Windows Mobile, supports J2ME apps as well so that is not a huge issue from were I sit. shaun everiss wrote: well Its not smartphones I want games for but also the games using the simbion os. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Kuvvosh, I'm not going to say that is impossible, but the initial version if I use Java 2 SE would be mainly designed for PC and Mac platforms. I'd have to convert the Java code from J2SE to J2ME to support smart phones, PDA's, and other devices that use the Java Mobile Eddition. While that isn't a super dificult task I'd have to know it would be worth my time and money to convert the game to support phones. Kuvvosh wrote: Oh wow, Java format? Would that mean it would be able to run on my New Smart phone then? That would be great. . . Kuvvosh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Kuvvosh, Well, most of the web site is back up and running, but there are a couple of areas I haven't completed yet. I am also working on the developer center http://developers.usagames.us which has the basic wiki framework setup, a few pages started, but I have been far too busy to really work on the web site or the games the last few days. As far as MOTA Beta 2 goes it is going to have a lot of upgrades though it will still be a side-scroller. I am actually still in the planning and designing faze, and haven't gotten into the core programming state yet. One thing I would really really like to do is convert the Montezuma's Return engine into pure Java so that Beta 2 would run independant of .NET and be able to run cross platform. Though, I have to see how much work will be involved in the conversion. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Oh wow, Java format? Would that mean it would be able to run on my New Smart phone then? That would be great. . . Kuvvosh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 1:11 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] USA game web site? Hi Kuvvosh, Well, most of the web site is back up and running, but there are a couple of areas I haven't completed yet. I am also working on the developer center http://developers.usagames.us which has the basic wiki framework setup, a few pages started, but I have been far too busy to really work on the web site or the games the last few days. As far as MOTA Beta 2 goes it is going to have a lot of upgrades though it will still be a side-scroller. I am actually still in the planning and designing faze, and haven't gotten into the core programming state yet. One thing I would really really like to do is convert the Montezuma's Return engine into pure Java so that Beta 2 would run independant of ..NET and be able to run cross platform. Though, I have to see how much work will be involved in the conversion. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ok, I'm wondering when the Site will be back up and operational? As I have yet got my copy of the new Beta. And also any news on the beta 2 of the new game? What is going to be different then Returns? Kuvvosh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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the site seems to be up last I looked. At 12:20 p.m. 27/02/2008, you wrote: Ok, I'm wondering when the Site will be back up and operational? As I have yet got my copy of the new Beta. And also any news on the beta 2 of the new game? What is going to be different then Returns? Kuvvosh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
