Re: [Audyssey] The babel urination contest, was babel report for May

2011-06-02 Thread shaun everiss
well why don't we put all the bable stuff on the offtopic forum of 
the audiogames website.

Loads of junk goes there.
I check it out from time to time.


Fred wrote:
I shouldn't have to use the delete key for messages which are of no 
purpose or need to be on the list, grow up and take responsibility 
for putting valid messages on the list.

end quote

 I completely agree with Fred here.
  One reason I don't follow this list much is because of all the 
crap messages with no real content sent to list, such as the babel 
report replies.  I am only monitoring right now to check feedback 
for Ryans soon to be excellent boxing game.
  We would have more developers on this list chiming in and helping 
with constructive ideas if there wasn't so much meaningless fluff 
in my opinion.
  Running a list that stays on topic and minimizes crap posts is 
not an easy thing, I know that, but there really is no point at all 
in the babel urination contest.
  Not only is conversation about who has the most posts 
meaningless, but it leads to one line and even sometimes one word 
emails to list.
  I don't mean to sound like a cranky old man here, but I hate to 
see a resource like the gamers list not reach its full potential 
when we have so few outlets for discussing our shared interest.

 Later,
che


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Re: [Audyssey] The babel urination contest, was babel report for May

2011-06-02 Thread shaun everiss
Well I like some offtopics as long as it doesn't take up list traffic 
totally or its complaints, flames, etc.


I got off the chat lists I was on because of this.

This may sound like a sob story but its true.
Most of the week I am by myself, with out lists like this one and a 
few other things I'd be lost.

SOme general chat is fine.
Mostly I skim it as it is.
I used to reply to all messages now I just do it for those I care for.


Hi everyone,
Could I first of all please ask you all to calm down? From what I 
have seen, the babble and thread reports have been coming on list 
now for years and I haven't really seen anyone complain up until 
this point. Though that doesn't mean to say there hasn't been any. I 
will stand corrected if I am wrong.
Although I find it interesting to read through them I can see both 
sides here. Although this is a games list I am sure Jim will have 
okayed these emails with the list moderators and owners and said 
moderators and owners will have allowed such postings for a reason. 
To me, it can come across as a fun bantering contest with bragging 
rights about who can post the most or least messages on list. 
However, I can also see the other side in that trying to beat a 
message posting score can lead to unnecessary messages such as 
one-liners and days of talk about these reports coming on list.
I think I will have to review this situation with Thomas and see 
where we go from here. If it is really so inconvenient then we will, 
I'm sure, come to some agreement.
However, calling people childish and irresponsible isn't the way to 
ask for something. Constructive criticism is one thing, flaming is 
another. So can we please remember that when posting and maybe not 
post immediately as soon as your anger and frustration flares up.

Thanks.
Regards,
Damien Pendleton,
Co-Moderator.



- Original Message - From: Che blindadrenal...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 9:57 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] The babel urination contest, was babel report for May



Fred wrote:
I shouldn't have to use the delete key for messages which are of no 
purpose or need to be on the list, grow up and take responsibility 
for putting valid messages on the list.

end quote

 I completely agree with Fred here.
  One reason I don't follow this list much is because of all the 
crap messages with no real content sent to list, such as the babel 
report replies.  I am only monitoring right now to check feedback 
for Ryans soon to be excellent boxing game.
  We would have more developers on this list chiming in and 
helping with constructive ideas if there wasn't so much 
meaningless fluff in my opinion.
  Running a list that stays on topic and minimizes crap posts is 
not an easy thing, I know that, but there really is no point at 
all in the babel urination contest.
  Not only is conversation about who has the most posts 
meaningless, but it leads to one line and even sometimes one word 
emails to list.
  I don't mean to sound like a cranky old man here, but I hate to 
see a resource like the gamers list not reach its full potential 
when we have so few outlets for discussing our shared interest.

 Later,
che


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Re: [Audyssey] The babel urination contest, was babel report for May

2011-06-01 Thread Damien Pendleton

Hi everyone,
Could I first of all please ask you all to calm down? From what I have seen, 
the babble and thread reports have been coming on list now for years and I 
haven't really seen anyone complain up until this point. Though that doesn't 
mean to say there hasn't been any. I will stand corrected if I am wrong.
Although I find it interesting to read through them I can see both sides 
here. Although this is a games list I am sure Jim will have okayed these 
emails with the list moderators and owners and said moderators and owners 
will have allowed such postings for a reason. To me, it can come across as a 
fun bantering contest with bragging rights about who can post the most or 
least messages on list. However, I can also see the other side in that 
trying to beat a message posting score can lead to unnecessary messages such 
as one-liners and days of talk about these reports coming on list.
I think I will have to review this situation with Thomas and see where we go 
from here. If it is really so inconvenient then we will, I'm sure, come to 
some agreement.
However, calling people childish and irresponsible isn't the way to ask for 
something. Constructive criticism is one thing, flaming is another. So can 
we please remember that when posting and maybe not post immediately as soon 
as your anger and frustration flares up.

Thanks.
Regards,
Damien Pendleton,
Co-Moderator.



- Original Message - 
From: Che blindadrenal...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 9:57 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] The babel urination contest, was babel report for May



Fred wrote:
I shouldn't have to use the delete key for messages which are of no 
purpose or need to be on the list, grow up and take responsibility for 
putting valid messages on the list.

end quote

 I completely agree with Fred here.
  One reason I don't follow this list much is because of all the crap 
messages with no real content sent to list, such as the babel report 
replies.  I am only monitoring right now to check feedback for Ryans soon 
to be excellent boxing game.
  We would have more developers on this list chiming in and helping with 
constructive ideas if there wasn't so much meaningless fluff in my 
opinion.
  Running a list that stays on topic and minimizes crap posts is not an 
easy thing, I know that, but there really is no point at all in the babel 
urination contest.
  Not only is conversation about who has the most posts meaningless, but 
it leads to one line and even sometimes one word emails to list.
  I don't mean to sound like a cranky old man here, but I hate to see a 
resource like the gamers list not reach its full potential when we have so 
few outlets for discussing our shared interest.

 Later,
che


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Re: [Audyssey] The babel urination contest, was babel report for May

2011-06-01 Thread Bryan Peterson
I think It's not so much the reports themselves that people are really 
complaining about. It's when people reply to said reports.

We are the Knights who say...Ni!
- Original Message - 
From: Damien Pendleton dam...@x-sight-interactive.net
To: blindadrenal...@gmail.com; Gamers Discussion list 
gamers@audyssey.org

Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The babel urination contest, was babel report for 
May




Hi everyone,
Could I first of all please ask you all to calm down? From what I have 
seen, the babble and thread reports have been coming on list now for years 
and I haven't really seen anyone complain up until this point. Though that 
doesn't mean to say there hasn't been any. I will stand corrected if I am 
wrong.
Although I find it interesting to read through them I can see both sides 
here. Although this is a games list I am sure Jim will have okayed these 
emails with the list moderators and owners and said moderators and owners 
will have allowed such postings for a reason. To me, it can come across as 
a fun bantering contest with bragging rights about who can post the most 
or least messages on list. However, I can also see the other side in that 
trying to beat a message posting score can lead to unnecessary messages 
such as one-liners and days of talk about these reports coming on list.
I think I will have to review this situation with Thomas and see where we 
go from here. If it is really so inconvenient then we will, I'm sure, come 
to some agreement.
However, calling people childish and irresponsible isn't the way to ask 
for something. Constructive criticism is one thing, flaming is another. So 
can we please remember that when posting and maybe not post immediately as 
soon as your anger and frustration flares up.

Thanks.
Regards,
Damien Pendleton,
Co-Moderator.



- Original Message - 
From: Che blindadrenal...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 9:57 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] The babel urination contest, was babel report for May



Fred wrote:
I shouldn't have to use the delete key for messages which are of no 
purpose or need to be on the list, grow up and take responsibility for 
putting valid messages on the list.

end quote

 I completely agree with Fred here.
  One reason I don't follow this list much is because of all the crap 
messages with no real content sent to list, such as the babel report 
replies.  I am only monitoring right now to check feedback for Ryans soon 
to be excellent boxing game.
  We would have more developers on this list chiming in and helping with 
constructive ideas if there wasn't so much meaningless fluff in my 
opinion.
  Running a list that stays on topic and minimizes crap posts is not an 
easy thing, I know that, but there really is no point at all in the babel 
urination contest.
  Not only is conversation about who has the most posts meaningless, but 
it leads to one line and even sometimes one word emails to list.
  I don't mean to sound like a cranky old man here, but I hate to see a 
resource like the gamers list not reach its full potential when we have 
so few outlets for discussing our shared interest.

 Later,
che


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