Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-10 Thread Ken the Crazy
! - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. No. Shooters are one of the genres blind people would have a bad time

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-10 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ken, Yeah, but to be fair Doom and Doom II ar childs play compared to the games of today. The levels are so much more complex now with not only north, south, east, west directions but the addition of up and down as well. That makes it almost virtually impossible to figure out where to go in

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-10 Thread Clement Chou
Here's the thing, Ken. That's exactly why blind people tend to avoid games... in the minds of most it's all about beating the game. While I share the sentiment I also like the pleasure of seeing what I can mess around with in any game... action adventures, for example... I run around

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-10 Thread Ben
That is extremely true yohandi. I personally feel the same way you do. You know I also play mainstream games a lot. I just don't find it fair. That is all I have to say. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Yohandy

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-09 Thread Charles Rivard
- From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. why play GTA, when you can actually steal cars and beat up people in real life? Why play Mortal

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-09 Thread Charles Rivard
, February 08, 2011 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. Pro mode, maybe. But keep in mind that even with pro mode the feeling isn't the same. I don't deny what you said about the game being positive. But that wasn't the point of Charles's post

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-09 Thread Ken the Crazy
Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. I'd love for this to happen actually. I'd do it myself if I could program. people need some exposure to the types of mainstream games out there. I

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-09 Thread Clement Chou
! The pleasant way to experience massage! It's the Caring without the Staring! - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-09 Thread Charles Rivard
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. Remember that Quake is a mainstream game. Lots of folks still play it too. Ken Downey President DreamTechInteractive! And, Blind Comfort! The pleasant way to experience massage! It's the Caring without the Staring

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-09 Thread Clement Chou
, find a dose and take it to heart. - Original Message - From: Ken the Crazy kenwdow...@neo.rr.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. Remember that Quake

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-09 Thread Shiny protector
: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 12:38 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. why play GTA, when you can actually steal cars and beat up people in real life? Why play Mortal kombat? might as well do real fatalities since that'll be way more realistic. oh and tank

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-09 Thread Frost
On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 09:48:43AM -0600, Charles Rivard wrote: Could you play it before it had been modified? [My Reply:] Heh. I can barely play it, even WITH the modifications. grins Michael -- Linux User: 177869 # Powered By: Intel #

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-09 Thread Frost
On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 07:57:50AM -0800, Clement Chou wrote: No. Shooters are one of the genres blind people would have a bad time with.. simply because targetting would be a pain in the a** [My Reply:] Can't you just cycle through the targets with the Tab key? You might not have as

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-08 Thread Clement Chou
I agree... we just aren't a big enough market. But to settle this debate... let me ask everybody this. Whatever side of the argument you were on. If someone pulled a capcom and made a full-fledged, mainstream quality audio fighting game, with no additional audio except naration in the menus

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-08 Thread Clement Chou
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. Games do have instructional manuals... in the cases. Just OCR them. At 04:34 PM 07/02/2011, you wrote: Hi Philip, That's the thing, games don't have manual's anymore. When I

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-08 Thread Gary Whittington
Yawn! A gamer is a person who plays a game. Not a person trying to figure out how to play the game. Sounds like, training monkeys. You hear a sound you respond, run, leap, shot. or if you don't you die. Sounds like a lot of fun. While I had site and played VG even in 3D. The point is gaming

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-08 Thread Ian McNamara
Yep popasangrey is a grate game. Ian McNamara --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org.

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-08 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi Yohandy, When I was younger like in my late teens and early twenties video games were just coming out. So I was still playing pinball and now video games like Pong, Space Invaders, Missile Command, Pole Position etc. I of course played the heck out of them both in the arcade as well as

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-08 Thread jason
I have to say we should be open to all ideas of gaming, even though allot of people like audio games, but we also have to focus on video gaming as well, otherwise if we don't focus on these issues, neither the WII nor the sonie Playstation or any gaming systems in this matter will ever become

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-08 Thread jason
I also wanted to comment on this message that I am a rockband fan and other DJ video games out there since I love music it makes you feel like a rock star. On 2/7/2011 1:12 PM, Yohandy wrote: Hey guys, Ok I'm gonna go ahead and say it. I find myself getting extremely frustrated with the

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-08 Thread shaun everiss
. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Orin Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 6:35 PM To: Philip Bennefall; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-08 Thread shaun everiss
hmmm If someone made a game with the narated options, maybe a few cues and such, I don't know made it like the audio games for the blind are today, but was able to have things so we could play it I'd probably get it. I am not sure what else would need to be done to make it accessible. Right

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-08 Thread Clement Chou
I don't mean any kind of complicated RPG. I mean a 2d fighting game, a Street Fighter type game. No complicated walking or picking up weapons, just a typical fighting game with a decent selection of characters, good amount of moves per character and a solid combo system. No audio cues during

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-08 Thread Bryan Peterson
Well said. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Gary Whittington gary...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 11:46 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. Yawn

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-08 Thread Bryan Peterson
: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. I don't mean any kind of complicated RPG. I mean a 2d fighting game, a Street Fighter type game. No complicated walking or picking up weapons, just a typical fighting game with a decent selection of characters, good amount of moves per

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-08 Thread dark
chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 1:17 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. I want to put out a question to everyone here... and see how much of a discussion I can spark. If someone were

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-08 Thread Ken the Crazy
I understand where you're coming from. I put together a game pack form the Pac Mate a couple years ago that had Scrabble, Chess, Minesweeper, Nethack and a bunch of other stuff. It took hours to make each game work. I suppose my mistake was to say that the games were visual. Well, they were

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-08 Thread Ken the Crazy
PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. and that right there is the problem. why do you guys keep coming back to sight? I'm 100% blind. Most video games need sight, but there are also many that don't. so why do you guys keep insisting that all video games

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-08 Thread Ken the Crazy
johnnyti...@shaw.ca To: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. Heh, it's like a confirmed carnivore like me can't understand why would anyone

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-08 Thread Ken the Crazy
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. Hi Damien, Smile. Oh, I never suggested you were loony, stupid, or any of those things. However, your point of thinking of a route as a list of instructions rather than a mental map is a great point I was trying to illistrate

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-08 Thread Ken the Crazy
: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. I don't mean any kind of complicated RPG. I mean a 2d fighting game, a Street Fighter type game. No complicated walking or picking up weapons, just a typical fighting game with a decent selection of characters, good amount of moves per

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-08 Thread dark
, or that it has been adapted wouldn't put me off. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Ken the Crazy kenwdow...@neo.rr.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-08 Thread Charles Rivard
musicians than use something artificial. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-08 Thread Charles Rivard
I usually comment on the games that I have an interest in. As to mainstream gaming, a lot of them must be used on a gaming console, which I don't have the money to buy, and, if I could afford one, would the expense be justified if a very few games are those I would be interested in playing?

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-08 Thread shaun everiss
hmmm If a mainstream did that I would probably try it at least. Most audio games have cues for sertain events though with the g3d stuff with the usa mota thing you actually have to view things to see what it is and if you know it well it doesn't shift so. At 04:16 p.m. 8/02/2011, you wrote: I

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-08 Thread Bryan Peterson
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. About a game like Guitar Hero, I ask: Why pretend when you can do it for real? I would rather plug my electric guitar into my amp, crank

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-08 Thread Charles Rivard
I would not, due to a lack of interest in that kind of game. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 5:17 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-08 Thread Clement Chou
Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. Yeah but here's the thing. how will you know if you can play it when you actually aren't even willing to try the game out? just because a sighted person

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-08 Thread Clement Chou
True enough. The reason I'm asking is whether narated menu options would change the mind of those who wanted to play fighters, but didn't want to spend time learning menus and such. And it would be something good for people who enjoyed games with strategy to them, as well as needing good

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-08 Thread Frost
On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 01:12:47PM -0500, Yohandy wrote: I'm sure you guys have noticed I've been putting up some rock band samples up. you've also noticed Clement has been putting up some street fighter IV samples and various other samples. So why is it that when we ask for feedback or

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-08 Thread Frost
On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 02:12:53PM -0500, Yohandy wrote: Yeah but here's the thing. how will you know if you can play it when you actually aren't even willing to try the game out? Hey, sometimes I just don't like being friggin reminded of what I lost, okay? Unless the game has been

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-08 Thread Yohandy
was programmed, a lot of people would buy it. - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 10:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. I agree... we

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-08 Thread Clement Chou
Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 10:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. I agree... we just aren't a big enough market. But to settle this debate... let me ask everybody this. Whatever

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-08 Thread Yohandy
Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. About a game like Guitar Hero, I ask: Why pretend when you can do it for real? I would rather plug my

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-08 Thread Clement Chou
, use a real tank! much more fun that way - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. About a game like

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-08 Thread Yohandy
...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. Sorry Yohandi, but in terms of rhythm games, I'd have to agree with Charles. Especially being a musician, it's much more appealing

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-08 Thread Clement Chou
and calling it merely a game is a bit unfair. - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. Sorry Yohandi

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-08 Thread Hayden Presley
Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Yohandy Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 6:38 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. why play GTA, when you can actually steal cars and beat up

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-08 Thread Yohandy
telling ya, the game can't come fast enough for me! - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. Pro mode, maybe

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-08 Thread Johnny Tai
that outlook on life. - Original Message - From: Damien Pendleton dam...@x-sight-interactive.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. Hi Liam, I totally agree. If I

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread Liam Erven
It's simple. Some people believe it or not have no interest in video games. The thought is, if it isn't accessible, why bother? That has been displayed several times on this list, and it's a poor way to look at life. But some people insist on it. Which is rather sad in my opinion.

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread Damien Pendleton
Hi Yohandy, The answer to your query, especially from my point of view. Are you totally blind? If so, I'd love to know how you can play mainstream games without any sighted help. If not, then that's why. You are partially or fully sighted and can see the games you are playing. I spent five

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread Damien Pendleton
Message - From: Liam Erven liamer...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. It's simple. Some people believe it or not have no interest in video games. The thought

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread dark
Actually yohandi, I've been playing mainstream games for years, far longer than I have accessible ones. However, sinse I access these through a combination of senses including my remaining vision, and sinse I stil play games like Turrican and rocks n diamonds which are not accessible to

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread Shiny protector
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. Hi Liam, I totally agree. If I know there is a game out there that a blind person can play that may indeed be intended for sighted

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread Karl Belanger
Hi, I suspect most people do not have interest in mainstream games for two reasons. First, they require consoles which can run from $200 up to $400 just for the console, never mind the $50 or more price tag for many of the games. Combine that with the relatively small percentage of games that are

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread Yohandy
. - Original Message - From: Damien Pendleton dam...@x-sight-interactive.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. Hi Liam, I totally agree. If I know there is a game out

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread Yohandy
- From: Damien Pendleton dam...@x-sight-interactive.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. Hi Liam, I totally agree. If I know there is a game out there that a blind

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread dark
Actually Yohandi, I at least am well aware of what games like rockband and guitar hero are like, sinse my brother and friends have them, and I am thus well aware of what I can or cannot see on the screen. If I can see about configuring my joystick, I might considder pc streetfighter though,

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread shaun everiss
yohandy, its not like we ignore you. I don't always get to comment on things. My life is quite bussy. Actually its not to much but I am trying hard to get away from the computer when I can. with my music, books, training and other things its not good to just stay at the keyboard and slack which

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread Yohandy
of being ridiculed perhaps? I'm really trying hard to understand this guys, but I just can't fathom it. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread shaun everiss
I aggree liam. Some have a life and don't comment as often though. I envy those that can play mainstream games. They are not accessible and therefore not really playable. Though to be truthfull I don't have the confadance others that do this would have. I have not a console but anyone that can

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread Philip Bennefall
Hi Yohandy, I pretty much feel the same way as a lot of other people on this list. If the game is not accessible enough to allow me to play without sighted assistance, or requires me to learn everything by heart such as all menu options etc before I can even begin, I quite frankly have no

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread shaun everiss
aggreed. I also don't have the space. lets see 2 headsets, boxes of wires, software, cds hard drives of which there are 2. tv, pc, you get the idea. I don't even have space for my joystick. The desks and shelving units are full. I actually have no space over what I have right now. At 08:08 a.m.

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread shaun everiss
gotta say to that is wow. I really hope you don't always have that outlook on life. - Original Message - From: Damien Pendleton dam...@x-sight-interactive.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread Shiny protector
address. muhamme...@googlemail.com Thankyou! - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. Hi Yohandy, I pretty

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread Philip Bennefall
...@googlemail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. Hi Philip, Honestly, memorising a bunch of buttons is not a hard thing. Imagine 10 beliefs I had to memorise

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread shaun everiss
ofcause the other thing people have forgotten is the fact that us blinks can't afford the real expensive stuff. Lets see 1400 for a good laptop, 1300 for software upgrades. now 200 for some good sterio headsets. another 40 for a crappy but servicable headset mic. oh and 50 bucks for some ok

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread Damien Pendleton
to the sounds. If I played them now, I wouldn't have a clue where to start. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread Yohandy
that caters to your extremely unrealistic specifications. From: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. Hi Yohandy, I pretty much feel

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread shaun everiss
gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. Actually Yohandi, I at least am well aware of what games like rockband and guitar hero are like, sinse my brother and friends have them, and I am thus well aware

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread Liam Erven
: Monday, February 07, 2011 2:06 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. SO since you didn't have much success with mainstream gaming when you were younger, you just assumed ok I can't play this? you gave up, just like that? you never

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread shaun everiss
I aggree philip. And on that note i have played lego starwars with my cousin in a team game. I just shoot everything in site but really its not really playing. At 08:43 a.m. 8/02/2011, you wrote: Hi Yohandy, I pretty much feel the same way as a lot of other people on this list. If the game is

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread Damien Pendleton
. - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. SO since you didn't have much success with mainstream gaming when you were

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread dark
, with text lables I could not read. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. Hello

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread Philip Bennefall
, 2011 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. SO since you didn't have much success with mainstream gaming when you were younger, you just assumed ok I can't play this? you gave up, just like that? you never considered trying the game for a while and try

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Yohandy, I have a few theories what is going on, and these aren't based so much on fact but just my experience in dealing with the VI gaming community in general. First, is probably simply a lack of interest in the types of games being presented. I'll take myself for example. I am into

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread Shiny protector
Well it is not hard. - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. Hello there, I was not refering

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread Shiny protector
Message - From: Liam Erven liamer...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. Why can't you accept that there are people who aren't interested in video games. We

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread dark
On the site front yohandi, the problem is the types of mainstream games I would myself be interested in playing do! require site. Rpgs require reading of in game text such as spell or action menues, hp in combat etc, and that's even assuming the dialogue in spoken (which is often

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread Shiny protector
: Monday, February 07, 2011 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. SO since you didn't have much success with mainstream gaming when you were younger, you just assumed ok I can't play this? you gave up, just like that? you never considered trying the game

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread Bryan Peterson
[mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Yohandy Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 2:06 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. SO since you didn't have much success with mainstream gaming when you were younger, you just assumed ok I can't

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Damien, Yeah, skill has something to do with it but experience and memory is the key. As plenty of people know by now I absolutely love the Tomb Raider games. I own all of them from the 1997 first Tomb Raider game right up to Guardian of Light released in 2010. However, they are extremely

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread Yohandy
, February 07, 2011 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. Why can't you accept that there are people who aren't interested in video games. We are among a small minority who play them. I think you just have to deal with that. -Original Message

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread dark
Hmmm, yohandi, possibly you are being a litle too hasty in so instantly deciding people's opinions are based only on assumptions or second hand knolidge. Certainly, I've trried many main stream games myself, in fact I played original street fighter and mortal kombat in the arcades when they

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread Yohandy
...@blastbay.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. I wish you would discuss these things in a less accusing fashion. I tried to figure the game out for a couple of weeks, perhaps three

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread Philip Bennefall
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. I wish you would discuss these things in a less accusing fashion. I tried to figure the game out for a couple of weeks, perhaps three, which

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread Bryan Peterson
: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. Well it is not hard. - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread Johnny Tai
Heh, it's like a confirmed carnivore like me can't understand why would anyone willingly become vegetarian- everytime I run into one I think, 'god, what's wrong with you?!' but of course, I don't say anything because I know I should know better than feeling the way I do. When people do not like

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread Damien Pendleton
Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. Hi Yohandy, I have a few theories what is going on, and these aren't based so much on fact but just my experience in dealing with the VI gaming community

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread Johnny Tai
, February 07, 2011 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. Hmmm, yohandi, possibly you are being a litle too hasty in so instantly deciding people's opinions are based only on assumptions or second hand knolidge. Certainly, I've trried many main stream games

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread Orin
I have to agree with Yohandy here. Is the mentality so closedminded that people give up just because the menus don't talk? Do you really think that's gonna stop me from playing Marvel VS. Capcom next week? Heck no. Do you really think I won't play Mortal Kombat because of no speech feedback?

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Damien, Smile. Oh, I never suggested you were loony, stupid, or any of those things. However, your point of thinking of a route as a list of instructions rather than a mental map is a great point I was trying to illistrate to Yohandy. Not all of us have the same skills and/or abilities which

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread Michael Feir
at: www.michaelfeir.blogspot.com - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. Hmmm, yohandi, possibly you are being a litle too hasty

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread Matheus r.c. souza
Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Data: Segunda, 7 de Fevereiro de 2011 15:53 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. when I said unrealistic, I was referring to the fact that no developer is ever going to cater to them. so if you're waiting for such a video game

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread Allison Mervis
I think one of the reasons why not many people respond is because I'm not sure how many blind people want to pay $200 or $300 for a mainstream game console on which they might only be able to play three or four games at most. It's definitely not worth it for me. Secondly, when I'm playing a game,

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread Matheus r.c. souza
: Segunda, 7 de Fevereiro de 2011 16:58 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. I think one of the reasons why not many people respond is because I'm not sure how many blind people want to pay $200 or $300 for a mainstream game console on which they might only be able

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread Allison Mervis
Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. Why can't you accept that there are people who aren't interested in video games. We are among a small minority who play them. I think you just have

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread Hayden Presley
] On Behalf Of Matheus r.c. souza Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 5:01 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. hmm, that's not right, menu memorization is only needed most of the times in the main menu, unless you want to get a rpg or something

Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

2011-02-07 Thread Hayden Presley
...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Shiny protector Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 1:52 PM To: Philip Bennefall; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. Hi Philip, Honestly, memorising a bunch of buttons is not a hard thing. Imagine 10 beliefs I had

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