Re: [Audyssey] Free Chess Program for the Blind - Winboard, 4.5 forJAWS

2011-08-15 Thread dark
Hmmm dave, there has been neither collusion nor is intended (certainly on my part), any hostility. I merely wished myself to make the point that you cannot instantly equate jaws with total access for every visually impared person, and because of that other screen readers or sapi might be

Re: [Audyssey] Free Chess Program for the Blind - Winboard, 4.5 forJAWS

2011-08-15 Thread Willem
Hi dark. The main difference here is that winboard is free and open source and anyone can add to it if they wish. Smugglers 3 is soled and the maker actually loses money if they don't support enough screen readers. I'm sure the developer appreciates if people use their product, but I'm sure

Re: [Audyssey] Free Chess Program for the Blind - Winboard 4.5 forJAWS

2011-08-14 Thread dark
the grue! dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Free Chess Program for the Blind - Winboard 4.5 forJAWS Hi Dave, What about those of us who don't

Re: [Audyssey] Free Chess Program for the Blind - Winboard 4.5 forJAWS

2011-08-14 Thread Thomas Ward
HI Dark, Yes, i know. That was really my point. Winboard may be a very good Chess program, but if its only using Jaws then it is, sorry to say, not very accessible in comparison to alternative Chess programs. Jaws may still be the leading screen reader today, but Window-Eyes, state side, has

Re: [Audyssey] Free Chess Program for the Blind - Winboard 4.5 forJAWS

2011-08-14 Thread Sky Mundell
: [Audyssey] Free Chess Program for the Blind - Winboard 4.5 forJAWS HI Dark, Yes, i know. That was really my point. Winboard may be a very good Chess program, but if its only using Jaws then it is, sorry to say, not very accessible in comparison to alternative Chess programs. Jaws may still

Re: [Audyssey] Free Chess Program for the Blind - Winboard 4.5 forJAWS

2011-08-14 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Sky, That may be, but that really wasn't my point. My point was that Jaws is losing market shares to competing screen readers like Window-Eyes and NVDA, and there is still some opinion among Jaws users that Jaws is still number one and nobody else's screen reader counts. That's totally untrue.

Re: [Audyssey] Free Chess Program for the Blind - Winboard, 4.5 forJAWS

2011-08-14 Thread David D. Acevedo
He he, I smell an collusion here. Not only that, an agenda . That's cute that men still do that even when they are all grown up, he he, that's cute. You and Audiogamers take your Major KChess and Major BGChess and use them, they have SAPI support and can save a game. That's all you need to

Re: [Audyssey] Free Chess Program for the Blind - Winboard 4.5 forJAWS

2011-08-14 Thread Willem
Dark and Thomas, asking to add aditional support is one thing, insisting on it is something completely different. While I am not a jaws user, winboard is much more advanced than anything out there currently for the blind market and I'll use a jaws demo if I want the features of winboard.