Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell
Speaking of alchemy studios games, anyone have the mouse targeting demo on here? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell
Hi Ben, Yes, I do. I own it. I've got the source code, and I believe I still have a setup or binary file kicking around as well. At least I hope I have a compiled binary kicking around because I no longer have a copy of Visual Basic 6 to recompile it. Smile. On 10/29/10, Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk wrote: Speaking of alchemy studios games, anyone have the mouse targeting demo on here? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell
Could you look? I'd like to experiment with some stuff... -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 29 October 2010 11:48 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell Hi Ben, Yes, I do. I own it. I've got the source code, and I believe I still have a setup or binary file kicking around as well. At least I hope I have a compiled binary kicking around because I no longer have a copy of Visual Basic 6 to recompile it. Smile. On 10/29/10, Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk wrote: Speaking of alchemy studios games, anyone have the mouse targeting demo on here? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell
Oh I remember that I downloaded it years and years ago, I may have it around on an old cd somewhere I will check. Tom -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Ben Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 11:18 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell Speaking of alchemy studios games, anyone have the mouse targeting demo on here? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell
That is a simple answer, his game practises was found out and he was called on it. Then his none abstinent business approach to answering questions got more questions that was refused answer. I do know a class action should of ben brought upon him for pre orders and refuse to refund, but as you can see he left for good! Dumping the left over junk onto Thomas to finish. Thomas has ben good throughout this venture and has learned a lot about the gaming world he is building for. The games previously mentioned by the fool will come to life thanks to Thomas. At 08:24 PM 10/18/2010, you wrote: Hi, If this isn't too complicated or the community would, shall we say, not talk about, may I inquire as to what you why he James left the scene? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 4:14 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell I actually liked the story of Monkey Business. As for James nobody really k nows what he's up to these days, only that so far as we can tell he's no longer developing, or if he is it's for his personal enjoyment. While I agree he could have handled things better I don't blame him in the least for throwing in the towel. People in this community seriously overreacted, even if their discontentment was justified. But it's people like that who make it harder on the rest of us and give blind people a bad name. But it's as I've said before, all we can do is learn from the mistakes he made and do our best not to repeat them. I for one don't plan on taking preorders on games or if I do it won't be until I know the game is well and truly on the home stretch to release. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Petr Bláha hammet...@seznam.cz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell Hello Thomas, and do you know what happened with James Nord? I loved monkey busyness and alien outback, especialy monkey busyness was one of the best games with lots of interesting ideas - although the story was - hm - how to say that - poor. But maps like astec temple, or surf'n turf, were full of interesting ideas - areas etc. So i thing that it is realli pity that james no longer develope games for the blind gamers community. On the other hand, there was lot of flaming on him, so i understand that he is not present on any mailing list of blind gamers community. Dne 18.10.2010 20:30, Thomas Ward napsal(a): Hi Nicol, No, Max Shrapnell was never released, and it definitely isn't for order any more. So far as anyone knows there wasn't even a version under development. Although, it is probable James North was working on an early Alpha of the software, but never put out a demo of the product. If there were private test releases no one has come forward with any. On 10/18/10, NIcolnicoljaco...@telkomsa.net wrote: HI list Where can I download Max Shrapnell? There is no link on audiogames.net and pcsgames.net. Is it still available for purchase? If it is abandon whare, and if James North gave permission to distribute it for free, is it possible to download it somewhere? Many thanks for any help. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your
Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell
Hi Thomas, Wow...are you serious? Incredible. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jim Kitchen Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 7:29 PM To: Thomas Ward Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell Hi Thomas, Yes, it was before you were around. All of the messages that I see from back then were from the beginning of, to near the end of 2001. They looked like. From: Jim Kitchen Date: 10-03-2001 To: audl...@espsoftworks.com - Original Message - Hi Jim, Hmmm...When was this? I don't remember this at all. Must have happened before I came along. As far as a game developer running the list I guess that depends on the developer in question. I am certainly a game developer, but I'd never personally disrupt the list when you or anyone else puts out a new game release. That is simply wrong, and is childish in my book. In fact, I encurrage game developers to release games. Sure we might disagree over APIs, programming languages, target platform, etc but I am not threatened by more games. Sheesh...I have a number of your games installed on my windows computer at home, and enjoy playing them from time to time. Disrupting the list would be counter productive. Just goes to show James wasn't the nicest guy out there I guess. Smile. On 10/21/10, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Hayden, Also, at one time James North ran the Audyssey list. And every time I would announce that I put a new game up, the list would go down for a few days. It was decided that a game developer should not run the list due to such conflicts of interest. BFN Jim When there are two conflicting versions of the story, the wise course is to believe the one in which people appear at their worst. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Jim That was a ridiculous call! What are you, blind? Leopard commercial 2008 j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell
Hi Hayden, Also, at one time James North ran the Audyssey list. And every time I would announce that I put a new game up, the list would go down for a few days. It was decided that a game developer should not run the list due to such conflicts of interest. BFN Jim When there are two conflicting versions of the story, the wise course is to believe the one in which people appear at their worst. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell
Hi Jim, Hmmm...When was this? I don't remember this at all. Must have happened before I came along. As far as a game developer running the list I guess that depends on the developer in question. I am certainly a game developer, but I'd never personally disrupt the list when you or anyone else puts out a new game release. That is simply wrong, and is childish in my book. In fact, I encurrage game developers to release games. Sure we might disagree over APIs, programming languages, target platform, etc but I am not threatened by more games. Sheesh...I have a number of your games installed on my windows computer at home, and enjoy playing them from time to time. Disrupting the list would be counter productive. Just goes to show James wasn't the nicest guy out there I guess. Smile. On 10/21/10, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Hayden, Also, at one time James North ran the Audyssey list. And every time I would announce that I put a new game up, the list would go down for a few days. It was decided that a game developer should not run the list due to such conflicts of interest. BFN Jim When there are two conflicting versions of the story, the wise course is to believe the one in which people appear at their worst. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell
Wow. I didn't know that. Sounds like some crazy crap going on. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell Hi Jim, Hmmm...When was this? I don't remember this at all. Must have happened before I came along. As far as a game developer running the list I guess that depends on the developer in question. I am certainly a game developer, but I'd never personally disrupt the list when you or anyone else puts out a new game release. That is simply wrong, and is childish in my book. In fact, I encurrage game developers to release games. Sure we might disagree over APIs, programming languages, target platform, etc but I am not threatened by more games. Sheesh...I have a number of your games installed on my windows computer at home, and enjoy playing them from time to time. Disrupting the list would be counter productive. Just goes to show James wasn't the nicest guy out there I guess. Smile. On 10/21/10, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Hayden, Also, at one time James North ran the Audyssey list. And every time I would announce that I put a new game up, the list would go down for a few days. It was decided that a game developer should not run the list due to such conflicts of interest. BFN Jim When there are two conflicting versions of the story, the wise course is to believe the one in which people appear at their worst. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell
Hi Thomas, Yes, it was before you were around. All of the messages that I see from back then were from the beginning of, to near the end of 2001. They looked like. From: Jim Kitchen Date: 10-03-2001 To: audl...@espsoftworks.com - Original Message - Hi Jim, Hmmm...When was this? I don't remember this at all. Must have happened before I came along. As far as a game developer running the list I guess that depends on the developer in question. I am certainly a game developer, but I'd never personally disrupt the list when you or anyone else puts out a new game release. That is simply wrong, and is childish in my book. In fact, I encurrage game developers to release games. Sure we might disagree over APIs, programming languages, target platform, etc but I am not threatened by more games. Sheesh...I have a number of your games installed on my windows computer at home, and enjoy playing them from time to time. Disrupting the list would be counter productive. Just goes to show James wasn't the nicest guy out there I guess. Smile. On 10/21/10, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Hayden, Also, at one time James North ran the Audyssey list. And every time I would announce that I put a new game up, the list would go down for a few days. It was decided that a game developer should not run the list due to such conflicts of interest. BFN Jim When there are two conflicting versions of the story, the wise course is to believe the one in which people appear at their worst. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Jim That was a ridiculous call! What are you, blind? Leopard commercial 2008 j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell
Hi, If this isn't too complicated or the community would, shall we say, not talk about, may I inquire as to what you why he James left the scene? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 4:14 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell I actually liked the story of Monkey Business. As for James nobody really k nows what he's up to these days, only that so far as we can tell he's no longer developing, or if he is it's for his personal enjoyment. While I agree he could have handled things better I don't blame him in the least for throwing in the towel. People in this community seriously overreacted, even if their discontentment was justified. But it's people like that who make it harder on the rest of us and give blind people a bad name. But it's as I've said before, all we can do is learn from the mistakes he made and do our best not to repeat them. I for one don't plan on taking preorders on games or if I do it won't be until I know the game is well and truly on the home stretch to release. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Petr Bláha hammet...@seznam.cz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell Hello Thomas, and do you know what happened with James Nord? I loved monkey busyness and alien outback, especialy monkey busyness was one of the best games with lots of interesting ideas - although the story was - hm - how to say that - poor. But maps like astec temple, or surf'n turf, were full of interesting ideas - areas etc. So i thing that it is realli pity that james no longer develope games for the blind gamers community. On the other hand, there was lot of flaming on him, so i understand that he is not present on any mailing list of blind gamers community. Dne 18.10.2010 20:30, Thomas Ward napsal(a): Hi Nicol, No, Max Shrapnell was never released, and it definitely isn't for order any more. So far as anyone knows there wasn't even a version under development. Although, it is probable James North was working on an early Alpha of the software, but never put out a demo of the product. If there were private test releases no one has come forward with any. On 10/18/10, NIcolnicoljaco...@telkomsa.net wrote: HI list Where can I download Max Shrapnell? There is no link on audiogames.net and pcsgames.net. Is it still available for purchase? If it is abandon whare, and if James North gave permission to distribute it for free, is it possible to download it somewhere? Many thanks for any help. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages
Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell
hMMM tHATS HARD TO SAY. THAT IS TO SAY THERE ARE SEVERAL VIEWPOINTS. oNE IS THAT HE DECIDED HE DIDN'T WANT TO DO GAMES ANYMORE BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE WHINING TO HIM ABOUT WHEN STUFF WAS GOING OUT, ANOTHER WAS THAT HE WAS A BEEPSTARD AND STOLE CASH FOR HIS GAMES WITH NO INTENT TO REALEASE ANYTHING. aNOTHER IS THAT HE HAD ISSUES IN HIS LIFE, WHICH IS TRUE AND COULDN'T DEVOTE TIME TO THE PROJECTS. oNE THING TO NOTE IS THAT HE NEVER RELEASED MUCH INFO ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE WAY THAT IF HE HAD TO PUSH BACK HIS DATES BECAUSE OF PERSONAL ISSUES WE WOULD ALL UNDERSTAND, ETC. mY VIEW IS THAT HE STARTED PREEORDERS BEFORE HE EVEN HAD GOT THE GAMES, ETC READY, SET A DATE AND THEN EVERYONE EXPECTED HIM TO BE BOUND BY THAT DATE. oFCAUSE TO BE FAIR THE IDUSTRY AS A WHOLE HADN'T DONE ANY PREORDERS THIS WAS ONE OF THE FIRST SUCH CASES. aNYWAY OBVIOUSLY HE COULDN'T MAKE IT, WHICH IS FINE BUT WITH NO INFO COMING THE COMMUNITY WAS LEFT HANGING FOR 5 YEARS. OR WAS IT 4? aNYWAY LOADS INCLUDING ME GOT FED UP, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE STILL ON THE PREORDER LIST, THEY HAVE PAYED AND RECIEVED NOTHING FOR IT. i THINK THE ONLY SAVING GRACE, IS THAT WHEN HE FINALLY BAILED, HE SOLD THE MONTI AND RACEWAY RIGHTS TO TOM, OTHERWISE i THINK LOADS ON THE PREORDER LISTS WOULD PROBABLY TRY TO SUE TO GET THEIR CASH BACK OR SOMETHING, i WOULD IF i WAS IN THEIR POSITION. oUT OF ALL THAT THOUGH WE HAVE LEARNED NOT TO PREORDER TILL WE HAVE A RELEASE DATE SET AND NOT TO SET THAT DATE TILL WE ARE JUST ABOUT TO FINNISH THE PROJECT. oK, SO NOT ALL COMPANIES RELEASE INFO, BUT THEN NOT ALL ARE MAKING GAMES AT ONCE AND AT LEAST THEY KEEP SOMETHING GOING. wE HAVE MOVED ON FROM MOST OF THAT NOW. mOST COMPANIES HAVE EMAIL LISTS NOW, GMA, BSC, AND LWORKS PCS DON'T BUT THEY DON'T MAKE TO MANY TITLES THOUGH THEY ARE WORKING ON THAT. RSGAMES AND THE SOUNDRTS GAME HAS A LIST AND A BLOG. tHE AUDIOGAMES.NET SITE TIES US OVER WITH THE OPENSOURCE GAMES WE ALL LIVE FOR WHICH HAS KEPT THE STRESS OFF THE COMERCIAL COMPANIES AND KEPT GAMING INTERESTS ACTIVE. wE HAVE LOADS MORE DEVS OUT THERE TO. i SUPPOSE IN A WAY WE SHOULD HAVE SEEN IT COMING THAT JAMES WOULD HAVE HAD ISSUES IN GENERAL, THE GENISUS PROJECT WAS SHELVED, ESP ALMOST CLOSED BUT BECAME ADORA, ADORA HAD ISSUES OR AT LEAST ONE OF THE OWNER DID AND THAT BECAME DRACONIS. iN MY VIEW, JAMES SHOULD NEVER HAVE SOLD ESP, AND NEVER SHOULD HAVE TRIED TO MOVE ON, WELL AT LEAST TILL WELL MAYBE 2008 OR SOMETHING WHEN A LOT OF NEW TECH WAS COMING OUT ETC. sAYING THAT ARGUABLY THERE COULD BE THE THING THAT IF JAMES HAD CONTINUED USAGAMES MAY NOT HAVE EXISTED IN THE WAY IT WAS, SINCE BEFORE JAMES WENT USAGAMES WAS THE ONLY OTHER COMPANY THAT HAD A TREK GAME. oN THE SUBJECT OF LISTS FOR DEVS, THE ONLY ONE NOT CREATED BY A DEV IS JIM KITCHEN'S LIST THAT IS A USER CREATED LIST NOT THAT TO MUCH OF JIM IS ON HERE AS IT IS, STILL, BEING ONE OF THE LONGEST MEMBERS THAT HAS TO BE SOMETHING. tHE ONLY GUYS THAT HAVE STOOD IT OUT ARE PCS, GMA, AND JIM KITCHEN, NOT SURE ABOUT LWORKS THOUGH IT HAS LASTED QUITE A WHILE TO At 01:24 p.m. 19/10/2010, you wrote: Hi, If this isn't too complicated or the community would, shall we say, not talk about, may I inquire as to what you why he James left the scene? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 4:14 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell I actually liked the story of Monkey Business. As for James nobody really k nows what he's up to these days, only that so far as we can tell he's no longer developing, or if he is it's for his personal enjoyment. While I agree he could have handled things better I don't blame him in the least for throwing in the towel. People in this community seriously overreacted, even if their discontentment was justified. But it's people like that who make it harder on the rest of us and give blind people a bad name. But it's as I've said before, all we can do is learn from the mistakes he made and do our best not to repeat them. I for one don't plan on taking preorders on games or if I do it won't be until I know the game is well and truly on the home stretch to release. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Petr Bláha hammet...@seznam.cz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell Hello Thomas, and do you know what happened with James Nord? I loved monkey busyness and alien outback, especialy monkey busyness was one of the best games with lots of interesting ideas - although the story was - hm - how to say that - poor. But maps like astec temple, or surf'n turf, were full of interesting ideas - areas etc. So i thing that it is realli pity that james no longer develope games for the blind gamers community. On the other hand
Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell
Yeah, absolutely agree with this point of view. Dne 18.10.2010 23:29, Thomas Ward napsal(a): Hi, I have no idea what happened to James North aftr he closed up shop. I haven't talked to the man by phone or via e-mail in four years. So really have nothing more to say on that subject. Although, I admit Monkey Business was to say the least interesting. The storyline was a bit off the wall, but the various settings like the jungle, Aztec temple, wild west, etc were all cool ideas. On 10/18/10, Petr Bláhahammet...@seznam.cz wrote: Hello Thomas, and do you know what happened with James Nord? I loved monkey busyness and alien outback, especialy monkey busyness was one of the best games with lots of interesting ideas - although the story was - hm - how to say that - poor. But maps like astec temple, or surf'n turf, were full of interesting ideas - areas etc. So i thing that it is realli pity that james no longer develope games for the blind gamers community. On the other hand, there was lot of flaming on him, so i understand that he is not present on any mailing list of blind gamers community. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell
Hi Clement, You said that from the James North situation, Though I guess if there's one thing I learned if I were to become a dev would be, always keep people posted on what's going on with the game. Another way is not to promote and take money for a game until it is done. And one does not want to Or repeatedly set release dates and break them. James also did not make any friends by always telling people how they should be writing games and handling their company business. You know no one likes a know it all. BFN Jim As I was saying, I hate it when people don't finish their j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell
That is true, and I wouldn't even give a tentative release until I was certain. At the least I would do what Tom is currently doing and maybe periodicaly post betas but say no more subject on the release dates. At worst, I'd do what mainstream devs do, and release new trailors every so often that include sneak previews of certain faatures. Though the thing I lke most about mainstream games... most of these games have their own dedicated websites for anouncements, videos, screenshots, etc. And in this day and age, devs also use facebook and twitter to update as well. - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net To: clement chou Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 1:51 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell Hi Clement, You said that from the James North situation, Though I guess if there's one thing I learned if I were to become a dev would be, always keep people posted on what's going on with the game. Another way is not to promote and take money for a game until it is done. And one does not want to Or repeatedly set release dates and break them. James also did not make any friends by always telling people how they should be writing games and handling their company business. You know no one likes a know it all. BFN Jim As I was saying, I hate it when people don't finish their j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Just to say guys I would have loved to play gp, but it's a sorry state of affairs. Shame really. Kinda depressing. In my opinion we should get on to more cheery matters... Destroyer. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of shaun everiss Sent: 19 October 2010 03:06 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell I must say out of all the games I would have liked to play from james it was the genisus project game. That would have been cool if it was not shelved. I know some early build must be out because a demo came out ages ago. At 07:30 a.m. 19/10/2010, you wrote: Hi Nicol, No, Max Shrapnell was never released, and it definitely isn't for order any more. So far as anyone knows there wasn't even a version under development. Although, it is probable James North was working on an early Alpha of the software, but never put out a demo of the product. If there were private test releases no one has come forward with any. On 10/18/10, NIcol nicoljaco...@telkomsa.net wrote: HI list Where can I download Max Shrapnell? There is no link on audiogames.net and pcsgames.net. Is it still available for purchase? If it is abandon whare, and if James North gave permission to distribute it for free, is it possible to download it somewhere? Many thanks for any help. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Max Shrapnell
HI list Where can I download Max Shrapnell? There is no link on audiogames.net and pcsgames.net. Is it still available for purchase? If it is abandon whare, and if James North gave permission to distribute it for free, is it possible to download it somewhere? Many thanks for any help. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell
didin't even get released though the bastard has my money for it On Oct 18, 2010, at 3:01 PM, NIcol wrote: HI list Where can I download Max Shrapnell? There is no link on audiogames.net and pcsgames.net. Is it still available for purchase? If it is abandon whare, and if James North gave permission to distribute it for free, is it possible to download it somewhere? Many thanks for any help. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi, That is kind of sad. I wouldn't actually never do preorders for something that isn't even released yet. I would wait uintil beta or osmething until I would take pre-orders, because then it is fact that the thing will most likely be released. Kevin - Original Message - From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 15:04:24 +0100 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell didin't even get released though the bastard has my money for it On Oct 18, 2010, at 3:01 PM, NIcol wrote: HI list Where can I download Max Shrapnell? There is no link on audiogames.net and pcsgames.net. Is it still available for purchase? If it is abandon whare, and if James North gave permission to distribute it for free, is it possible to download it somewhere? Many thanks for any help. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi I to would like to know this since when it was first talked about i thought it sounded really cool. from Mich. - Original Message - From: NIcol nicoljaco...@telkomsa.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 10:01 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell HI list Where can I download Max Shrapnell? There is no link on audiogames.net and pcsgames.net. Is it still available for purchase? If it is abandon whare, and if James North gave permission to distribute it for free, is it possible to download it somewhere? Many thanks for any help. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell
Hi Nicol, No, Max Shrapnell was never released, and it definitely isn't for order any more. So far as anyone knows there wasn't even a version under development. Although, it is probable James North was working on an early Alpha of the software, but never put out a demo of the product. If there were private test releases no one has come forward with any. On 10/18/10, NIcol nicoljaco...@telkomsa.net wrote: HI list Where can I download Max Shrapnell? There is no link on audiogames.net and pcsgames.net. Is it still available for purchase? If it is abandon whare, and if James North gave permission to distribute it for free, is it possible to download it somewhere? Many thanks for any help. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell
He started working on, and testing, a targeting system. It was not a beta of the game, but merely a small portion of the program that was being tested. Then he closed up shop with no explanation, and I haven't heard anything since. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell Hi Nicol, No, Max Shrapnell was never released, and it definitely isn't for order any more. So far as anyone knows there wasn't even a version under development. Although, it is probable James North was working on an early Alpha of the software, but never put out a demo of the product. If there were private test releases no one has come forward with any. On 10/18/10, NIcol nicoljaco...@telkomsa.net wrote: HI list Where can I download Max Shrapnell? There is no link on audiogames.net and pcsgames.net. Is it still available for purchase? If it is abandon whare, and if James North gave permission to distribute it for free, is it possible to download it somewhere? Many thanks for any help. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell
I agree. Unfortunately the project was more than likely abandoned since I don't recall it being among the projects to which Thomas acquired the rights. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Mich m...@ntl.sympatico.ca To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell Hi I to would like to know this since when it was first talked about i thought it sounded really cool. from Mich. - Original Message - From: NIcol nicoljaco...@telkomsa.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 10:01 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell HI list Where can I download Max Shrapnell? There is no link on audiogames.net and pcsgames.net. Is it still available for purchase? If it is abandon whare, and if James North gave permission to distribute it for free, is it possible to download it somewhere? Many thanks for any help. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell
From what I recall, James North did not sell the rights to the game to anyone. Since Thomas has sent posts about the game but did not mention that he acquired the rights, I figure that he did not. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell I agree. Unfortunately the project was more than likely abandoned since I don't recall it being among the projects to which Thomas acquired the rights. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Mich m...@ntl.sympatico.ca To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell Hi I to would like to know this since when it was first talked about i thought it sounded really cool. from Mich. - Original Message - From: NIcol nicoljaco...@telkomsa.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 10:01 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell HI list Where can I download Max Shrapnell? There is no link on audiogames.net and pcsgames.net. Is it still available for purchase? If it is abandon whare, and if James North gave permission to distribute it for free, is it possible to download it somewhere? Many thanks for any help. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell
Hi, I didn't acquire the rights for Max. Part of the reason was that James North was working on some sort of game engine, and the game was designed using the game engine he was creating at the time. That would require me purchasing his game engine which I obviously wouldn't do and am glad I didn't as Alchemy folded taking both the engine and Max with it. On 10/18/10, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: I agree. Unfortunately the project was more than likely abandoned since I don't recall it being among the projects to which Thomas acquired the rights. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell
I'd love to see a game like that, maybe something to consider later on tom, who knows. Mike --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell
Hello Thomas, and do you know what happened with James Nord? I loved monkey busyness and alien outback, especialy monkey busyness was one of the best games with lots of interesting ideas - although the story was - hm - how to say that - poor. But maps like astec temple, or surf'n turf, were full of interesting ideas - areas etc. So i thing that it is realli pity that james no longer develope games for the blind gamers community. On the other hand, there was lot of flaming on him, so i understand that he is not present on any mailing list of blind gamers community. Dne 18.10.2010 20:30, Thomas Ward napsal(a): Hi Nicol, No, Max Shrapnell was never released, and it definitely isn't for order any more. So far as anyone knows there wasn't even a version under development. Although, it is probable James North was working on an early Alpha of the software, but never put out a demo of the product. If there were private test releases no one has come forward with any. On 10/18/10, NIcolnicoljaco...@telkomsa.net wrote: HI list Where can I download Max Shrapnell? There is no link on audiogames.net and pcsgames.net. Is it still available for purchase? If it is abandon whare, and if James North gave permission to distribute it for free, is it possible to download it somewhere? Many thanks for any help. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell
I actually liked the story of Monkey Business. As for James nobody really k nows what he's up to these days, only that so far as we can tell he's no longer developing, or if he is it's for his personal enjoyment. While I agree he could have handled things better I don't blame him in the least for throwing in the towel. People in this community seriously overreacted, even if their discontentment was justified. But it's people like that who make it harder on the rest of us and give blind people a bad name. But it's as I've said before, all we can do is learn from the mistakes he made and do our best not to repeat them. I for one don't plan on taking preorders on games or if I do it won't be until I know the game is well and truly on the home stretch to release. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Petr Bláha hammet...@seznam.cz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell Hello Thomas, and do you know what happened with James Nord? I loved monkey busyness and alien outback, especialy monkey busyness was one of the best games with lots of interesting ideas - although the story was - hm - how to say that - poor. But maps like astec temple, or surf'n turf, were full of interesting ideas - areas etc. So i thing that it is realli pity that james no longer develope games for the blind gamers community. On the other hand, there was lot of flaming on him, so i understand that he is not present on any mailing list of blind gamers community. Dne 18.10.2010 20:30, Thomas Ward napsal(a): Hi Nicol, No, Max Shrapnell was never released, and it definitely isn't for order any more. So far as anyone knows there wasn't even a version under development. Although, it is probable James North was working on an early Alpha of the software, but never put out a demo of the product. If there were private test releases no one has come forward with any. On 10/18/10, NIcolnicoljaco...@telkomsa.net wrote: HI list Where can I download Max Shrapnell? There is no link on audiogames.net and pcsgames.net. Is it still available for purchase? If it is abandon whare, and if James North gave permission to distribute it for free, is it possible to download it somewhere? Many thanks for any help. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell
Hi, I have no idea what happened to James North aftr he closed up shop. I haven't talked to the man by phone or via e-mail in four years. So really have nothing more to say on that subject. Although, I admit Monkey Business was to say the least interesting. The storyline was a bit off the wall, but the various settings like the jungle, Aztec temple, wild west, etc were all cool ideas. On 10/18/10, Petr Bláha hammet...@seznam.cz wrote: Hello Thomas, and do you know what happened with James Nord? I loved monkey busyness and alien outback, especialy monkey busyness was one of the best games with lots of interesting ideas - although the story was - hm - how to say that - poor. But maps like astec temple, or surf'n turf, were full of interesting ideas - areas etc. So i thing that it is realli pity that james no longer develope games for the blind gamers community. On the other hand, there was lot of flaming on him, so i understand that he is not present on any mailing list of blind gamers community. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell
Mine too. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 9:04 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell didin't even get released though the bastard has my money for it On Oct 18, 2010, at 3:01 PM, NIcol wrote: HI list Where can I download Max Shrapnell? There is no link on audiogames.net and pcsgames.net. Is it still available for purchase? If it is abandon whare, and if James North gave permission to distribute it for free, is it possible to download it somewhere? Many thanks for any help. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell
Oh no. People's reactions were completely justified. The man busted back onto the scene telling us Montezuma's Revenge was gold. We weren't told it was in development, but that it was a finished product. So I, and many others, went out and bought copies based on that fact. It turned out that several months later, the game still hadn't been released, and he would tell us, on the evening of the release, Sorry, guys. The game won't be coming out tonight as I decided to have the family over for a barbecue. So anyone who wants ribs, chicken alfredo, and peach cobbler can come on over. Nearly six years later, you all know the story. I bought Montezuma's Revenge because I thought the game was completed. I bought Max Shrapnel and 3 months of server subscription because, believing he had the ability to complete games in a timely manner, I assumed Max was on the same path. $100.77 later, I know better. You can generalize blind people all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that James North, as a businessman, left way too many people out in the cold. I don't care that he was fed up with blind people, republicans, aliens, rhubarb, or Velveteen rabbits. The man had--and still has--an obligation to finish what he started, backed by thousands of dollars of people's money. Ryan -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 4:14 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell I actually liked the story of Monkey Business. As for James nobody really k nows what he's up to these days, only that so far as we can tell he's no longer developing, or if he is it's for his personal enjoyment. While I agree he could have handled things better I don't blame him in the least for throwing in the towel. People in this community seriously overreacted, even if their discontentment was justified. But it's people like that who make it harder on the rest of us and give blind people a bad name. But it's as I've said before, all we can do is learn from the mistakes he made and do our best not to repeat them. I for one don't plan on taking preorders on games or if I do it won't be until I know the game is well and truly on the home stretch to release. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Petr Bláha hammet...@seznam.cz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell Hello Thomas, and do you know what happened with James Nord? I loved monkey busyness and alien outback, especialy monkey busyness was one of the best games with lots of interesting ideas - although the story was - hm - how to say that - poor. But maps like astec temple, or surf'n turf, were full of interesting ideas - areas etc. So i thing that it is realli pity that james no longer develope games for the blind gamers community. On the other hand, there was lot of flaming on him, so i understand that he is not present on any mailing list of blind gamers community. Dne 18.10.2010 20:30, Thomas Ward napsal(a): Hi Nicol, No, Max Shrapnell was never released, and it definitely isn't for order any more. So far as anyone knows there wasn't even a version under development. Although, it is probable James North was working on an early Alpha of the software, but never put out a demo of the product. If there were private test releases no one has come forward with any. On 10/18/10, NIcolnicoljaco...@telkomsa.net wrote: HI list Where can I download Max Shrapnell? There is no link on audiogames.net and pcsgames.net. Is it still available for purchase? If it is abandon whare, and if James North gave permission to distribute it for free, is it possible to download it somewhere? Many thanks for any help. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr
Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell
I will say, even though angry reactions might've been justified, there is no reason, absolutely no reason, that it should've been caried away the way it was. Flame wars were starting everywhere, people attacking james in all sorts of ways and it just got filthy. If I was him, I would've closed too. Though I guess if there's one thing I learned if I were to become a dev would be, always keep people posted on what's going on with the game. The Mortal Kombat 9 boards are in an uproar because WB hasn't posted something in months, whereas marvel vs. capcom 3 has gotten updates officially from capcom every month or so. Bottom line. I think if we'd al shut up and waited, the games would've come out. I'd rather wait years for a game to come out. Remember, mainstream games take anywhere from five to ten years... marvel vs. capcom 3 took a year to even get announced. Street Fighter IV was the first SF game in ten years, and turned out great. IMO, you get more bang for your buck if you wait for the game... And remember, none knows what the true circumstances of James's going was for... he could've been going through personal issues of all sorts, and a bunch of flaming from a bunch of blind people needless to say didn't help. With ESP, James did prove he could develop good games that were a lot of fun. And honestly, could people not be more considerate? Yes, he has an obligation to finish what he started. But some things in life are more important than making games with which to entertain people. Sorry for all the errors in my typing. This laptop's keyboard sucks. lol. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 4:14 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell I actually liked the story of Monkey Business. As for James nobody really k nows what he's up to these days, only that so far as we can tell he's no longer developing, or if he is it's for his personal enjoyment. While I agree he could have handled things better I don't blame him in the least for throwing in the towel. People in this community seriously overreacted, even if their discontentment was justified. But it's people like that who make it harder on the rest of us and give blind people a bad name. But it's as I've said before, all we can do is learn from the mistakes he made and do our best not to repeat them. I for one don't plan on taking preorders on games or if I do it won't be until I know the game is well and truly on the home stretch to release. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Petr Bláha hammet...@seznam.cz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell Hello Thomas, and do you know what happened with James Nord? I loved monkey busyness and alien outback, especialy monkey busyness was one of the best games with lots of interesting ideas - although the story was - hm - how to say that - poor. But maps like astec temple, or surf'n turf, were full of interesting ideas - areas etc. So i thing that it is realli pity that james no longer develope games for the blind gamers community. On the other hand, there was lot of flaming on him, so i understand that he is not present on any mailing list of blind gamers community. Dne 18.10.2010 20:30, Thomas Ward napsal(a): Hi Nicol, No, Max Shrapnell was never released, and it definitely isn't for order any more. So far as anyone knows there wasn't even a version under development. Although, it is probable James North was working on an early Alpha of the software, but never put out a demo of the product. If there were private test releases no one has come forward with any. On 10/18/10, NIcolnicoljaco...@telkomsa.net wrote: HI list Where can I download Max Shrapnell? There is no link on audiogames.net and pcsgames.net. Is it still available for purchase? If it is abandon whare, and if James North gave permission to distribute it for free, is it possible to download it somewhere? Many thanks for any help. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam
Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell
I must say out of all the games I would have liked to play from james it was the genisus project game. That would have been cool if it was not shelved. I know some early build must be out because a demo came out ages ago. At 07:30 a.m. 19/10/2010, you wrote: Hi Nicol, No, Max Shrapnell was never released, and it definitely isn't for order any more. So far as anyone knows there wasn't even a version under development. Although, it is probable James North was working on an early Alpha of the software, but never put out a demo of the product. If there were private test releases no one has come forward with any. On 10/18/10, NIcol nicoljaco...@telkomsa.net wrote: HI list Where can I download Max Shrapnell? There is no link on audiogames.net and pcsgames.net. Is it still available for purchase? If it is abandon whare, and if James North gave permission to distribute it for free, is it possible to download it somewhere? Many thanks for any help. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell
you are right ofcause. Ofcause if I preordered I'd be justified going a bit nuts, there are a few that gave their cash and have nothing to show for it. So now james has folded, minus the stuff made by usa that tom got from him, all the other stuff people have got, well all that cash is gone now, no refunds, so that makes you wander. At 10:13 a.m. 19/10/2010, you wrote: I actually liked the story of Monkey Business. As for James nobody really k nows what he's up to these days, only that so far as we can tell he's no longer developing, or if he is it's for his personal enjoyment. While I agree he could have handled things better I don't blame him in the least for throwing in the towel. People in this community seriously overreacted, even if their discontentment was justified. But it's people like that who make it harder on the rest of us and give blind people a bad name. But it's as I've said before, all we can do is learn from the mistakes he made and do our best not to repeat them. I for one don't plan on taking preorders on games or if I do it won't be until I know the game is well and truly on the home stretch to release. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Petr Bláha hammet...@seznam.cz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell Hello Thomas, and do you know what happened with James Nord? I loved monkey busyness and alien outback, especialy monkey busyness was one of the best games with lots of interesting ideas - although the story was - hm - how to say that - poor. But maps like astec temple, or surf'n turf, were full of interesting ideas - areas etc. So i thing that it is realli pity that james no longer develope games for the blind gamers community. On the other hand, there was lot of flaming on him, so i understand that he is not present on any mailing list of blind gamers community. Dne 18.10.2010 20:30, Thomas Ward napsal(a): Hi Nicol, No, Max Shrapnell was never released, and it definitely isn't for order any more. So far as anyone knows there wasn't even a version under development. Although, it is probable James North was working on an early Alpha of the software, but never put out a demo of the product. If there were private test releases no one has come forward with any. On 10/18/10, NIcolnicoljaco...@telkomsa.net wrote: HI list Where can I download Max Shrapnell? There is no link on audiogames.net and pcsgames.net. Is it still available for purchase? If it is abandon whare, and if James North gave permission to distribute it for free, is it possible to download it somewhere? Many thanks for any help. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam
Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell
draconis has monkey business now I think. At 10:29 a.m. 19/10/2010, you wrote: Hi, I have no idea what happened to James North aftr he closed up shop. I haven't talked to the man by phone or via e-mail in four years. So really have nothing more to say on that subject. Although, I admit Monkey Business was to say the least interesting. The storyline was a bit off the wall, but the various settings like the jungle, Aztec temple, wild west, etc were all cool ideas. On 10/18/10, Petr Bláha hammet...@seznam.cz wrote: Hello Thomas, and do you know what happened with James Nord? I loved monkey busyness and alien outback, especialy monkey busyness was one of the best games with lots of interesting ideas - although the story was - hm - how to say that - poor. But maps like astec temple, or surf'n turf, were full of interesting ideas - areas etc. So i thing that it is realli pity that james no longer develope games for the blind gamers community. On the other hand, there was lot of flaming on him, so i understand that he is not present on any mailing list of blind gamers community. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell
Yep they do. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Max Shrapnell draconis has monkey business now I think. At 10:29 a.m. 19/10/2010, you wrote: Hi, I have no idea what happened to James North aftr he closed up shop. I haven't talked to the man by phone or via e-mail in four years. So really have nothing more to say on that subject. Although, I admit Monkey Business was to say the least interesting. The storyline was a bit off the wall, but the various settings like the jungle, Aztec temple, wild west, etc were all cool ideas. On 10/18/10, Petr Bláha hammet...@seznam.cz wrote: Hello Thomas, and do you know what happened with James Nord? I loved monkey busyness and alien outback, especialy monkey busyness was one of the best games with lots of interesting ideas - although the story was - hm - how to say that - poor. But maps like astec temple, or surf'n turf, were full of interesting ideas - areas etc. So i thing that it is realli pity that james no longer develope games for the blind gamers community. On the other hand, there was lot of flaming on him, so i understand that he is not present on any mailing list of blind gamers community. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
