Re: [Audyssey] Recording PC sound output for thingslikepodcasts/demo's etc. on windows7

2011-11-11 Thread Jacob Kruger

Really not sure myself...

Stay well

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Recording PC sound output for 
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do the virtual cables allow one to use mic and stereo mix simultaneously? 
Also, I used that program you recommended, but I can't figure out how to 
enable both mic and stereomix. I can only do one or the other.


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Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 1:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Recording PC sound output for things 
likepodcasts/demo's etc. on windows7



I just tried a virtual audio cable, and it still wants to know which two 
devices to connect to each other, so still didn't help then trying to make 
use of the stereo mix input device if it has nothing attached to it in 
terms of actual audio content.


stay well

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Recording PC sound output for things like 
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Anybody heard of Virtual Audio Cable? That might work out. But how is 
this related to gaming? Are you trying to produce a play through of 
something?


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Re: [Audyssey] Recording PC sound output for thingslikepodcasts/demo's etc. on windows7

2011-11-11 Thread john
If your referencing the sound tap program I mentioned, there is a 
checkbox that will allow you to use your mic as well. I forget 
what exactly it's called.


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From: "Yohandy" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Recording PC sound output for 
thingslikepodcasts/demo's etc. on windows7


do the virtual cables allow one to use mic and stereo mix 
simultaneously?
Also, I used that program you recommended, but I can't figure out 
how to

enable both mic and stereomix. I can only do one or the other.

- Original Message -
From: "Jacob Kruger" ; "Gamers Discussion list"
I just tried a virtual audio cable, and it still wants to know 
which two
devices to connect to each other, so still didn't help then 
trying to make
use of the stereo mix input device if it has nothing attached to 
it in

terms of actual audio content.

stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

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From: "Alfredo_The_Music_maker" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Recording PC sound output for things 
like

podcasts/demo's etc. on windows7


Anybody heard of Virtual Audio Cable? That might work out. But 
how is
this related to gaming? Are you trying to produce a play through 
of

something?

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Re: [Audyssey] Recording PC sound output for thingslikepodcasts/demo's etc. on windows7

2011-11-10 Thread Yohandy
wish I had a volume's tab. I'll check out that program you provided and see 
what it does. I'd actually be willing to pay for the thing if it meant all 
my troubles will be over.


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Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Recording PC sound output for 
thingslikepodcasts/demo's etc. on windows7



Right, here goes. Under the property page for stereo mix, head to the 
volume tab and make sure the device isn't muted. Also turn the volume on 
stereo mix up *all* the way. You may be able to find this under system 
tray, speakers/headphones. If this
doesn't work, a totally accessable piece of software which will allow you 
to record soundcard and microphone (though with a 15 day trial) is sound 
tap from www.nchsoftware.com.

- Original Message -
From: "Jacob Kruger" Subject: [Audyssey] Recording PC sound output for things 
likepodcasts/demo's etc. on windows7


OK, while I could just use an external microphone/device to record my 
computer's audio output, including surrounding sounds, maybe me talking 
etc., etc., while using my current primary windows7 ultimate 64 bit 
primary machine, on machines like windows XP, it seemed you could easily 
enough, sometimes use either a sort of virtual audio recording device 
called stereo mix, or one called what you hear, and then using something 
like either audacity, or 2 other recording apps have gotten hold of - see 
below - record just the computers actual audio output, including 
screenreader voices,  a bit more cleanly.


Anyway, on this windows7 64 bit machine, I had to firstly go and make the 
stereo mix recording device show up, since it sort of gets hidden by 
windows7 itself - in start menu search box, I type in:

sound card

and then hit enter on "change sound card settings".

Then in that dialogue box, I ctrl + tab to recording page, and in list of 
recording devices, it only showed microphone and audio line in - and this 
is linked to my PC's realtek sound card.


When I then invoked a right mouse click on that list, using the jaws 
cursor, on the context menu item there's a menu item saying something like 
show disabled devices, and then I could find a stereo mix device listing, 
and if I invoked it's properties, I could in fact enable it, make changes 
to it's volume levels, etc. etc.


However, even if I make it the default device - also from that dialogue, 
or specifically choose to use it in either audacity, or the 2 apps listed 
below, the sound files do have a file size, and a recorded time length, 
but are just silent..?


Most guys who've done something similar to this on windowsXP machines 
reckon the device would normally be called something like what you hear, 
but anyway - was just wondering if anyone had any ideas related to a 
feasible workaround for this type of issue, asides from actually recording 
the PC's output using an external device/unit/microphone placed in front 
of speakers, since it might be nice to be able to record demo's/tutorial 
material related to some things like this, without having to first connect 
external units/cables, etc. etc.


Lastly, those two bits of  software found/tracked down that let you sort 
of record directly to MP3 files - in theory anyway - and which while not 
perfectly accessible, are still relatively usable are the 2 following 
ones:


Free MP3 sound recorder
http://www.nbxsoft.com/download-sound-recorder.php

Digital audio recorder
http://www.asoftwareplus.com/

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
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Re: [Audyssey] Recording PC sound output for thingslikepodcasts/demo's etc. on windows7

2011-11-10 Thread shaun everiss

hmmm that resource would help a good deal.
I have 10 people interested which means once again we may have enough 
to start something.

It sounds like the sound issue will only get worse though.
At 02:26 a.m. 11/11/2011 +0200, you wrote:
Would still like to be able to do it using only this PC itself, but 
currently the best sort of workaround have for it is I have a unit 
here called the boostaroo revolution -

http://boostaroo.com/

(yes, think it's funny that domain name and product name are spelt 
differently)


Main thing with it, aside from it boosting the output by 400%  to 
help guys save battery life on things like MP3 players, is it means 
I can use some of my audio gadgets without using my one hearing aid 
as well, and another thing is it's completely portable - roundabout 
the size of my thumb in total - uses A A A A batteries (splitting 
those characters apart since otherwise something like jaws will just 
read the 4 of them as a triple letter combo, which it definitely 
isn't)- and actually has 2 output jack sockets, so you can also use 
it to easily split one audio signal into 2 output signals, so I 
could then plug headphones into one socket, to hear what was 
happening, and plug something like my other laptop's audio jack to 
its line in into the other socket to then handle the recording, but 
this would still require the use of the other laptop to handle the 
recording, which is specifically what I'd like to avoid having to do.


Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

- Original Message - From: "Yohandy" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 1:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Recording PC sound output for 
thingslikepodcasts/demo's etc. on windows7




Jacob,
This is the biggest annoyance I find with recent versions of 
Windows. configuring sound settings is a major pain. What I did was 
buy an external soundcard type device that allows me to record from 
external sources, like my playstation 3 for example. If you want to 
record from the sound card, I'm not sure what to tell ya. My sound 
card allows me to record, but there are 2 huge issues. First it 
sounds like total garbage. and second, I cannot unmute the mic 
while stereo mix is active, because there can only be 1 audio 
device enabled. I haven't found a workaround for the stereo mix 
issue yet, although I would be interested if anyone has any 
suggestions. I've been looking for a good way to do this for years.



- Original Message - From: "Jacob Kruger" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 6:42 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Recording PC sound output for things 
likepodcasts/demo's etc. on windows7



OK, while I could just use an external microphone/device to record 
my computer's audio output, including surrounding sounds, maybe me 
talking etc., etc., while using my current primary windows7 
ultimate 64 bit primary machine, on machines like windows XP, it 
seemed you could easily enough, sometimes use either a sort of 
virtual audio recording device called stereo mix, or one called 
what you hear, and then using something like either audacity, or 2 
other recording apps have gotten hold of - see below - record just 
the computers actual audio output, including screenreader 
voices,  a bit more cleanly.


Anyway, on this windows7 64 bit machine, I had to firstly go and 
make the stereo mix recording device show up, since it sort of 
gets hidden by windows7 itself - in start menu search box, I type in:

sound card

and then hit enter on "change sound card settings".

Then in that dialogue box, I ctrl + tab to recording page, and in 
list of recording devices, it only showed microphone and audio 
line in - and this is linked to my PC's realtek sound card.


When I then invoked a right mouse click on that list, using the 
jaws cursor, on the context menu item there's a menu item saying 
something like show disabled devices, and then I could find a 
stereo mix device listing, and if I invoked it's properties, I 
could in fact enable it, make changes to it's volume levels, etc. etc.


However, even if I make it the default device - also from that 
dialogue, or specifically choose to use it in either audacity, or 
the 2 apps listed below, the sound files do have a file size, and 
a recorded time length, but are just silent..?


Most guys who've done something similar to this on windowsXP 
machines reckon the device would normally be called something like 
what you hear, but anyway - was just wondering if anyone had any 
ideas related to a feasible workaround for this type of issue, 
asides from actually recording the PC's output using an external 
device/unit/microphone placed in front of speakers, since it might 
be nice to be able to record demo's/tutorial mat

Re: [Audyssey] Recording PC sound output for thingslikepodcasts/demo's etc. on windows7

2011-11-10 Thread Jacob Kruger
Would still like to be able to do it using only this PC itself, but 
currently the best sort of workaround have for it is I have a unit here 
called the boostaroo revolution -

http://boostaroo.com/

(yes, think it's funny that domain name and product name are spelt 
differently)


Main thing with it, aside from it boosting the output by 400%  to help guys 
save battery life on things like MP3 players, is it means I can use some of 
my audio gadgets without using my one hearing aid as well, and another thing 
is it's completely portable - roundabout the size of my thumb in total - 
uses A A A A batteries (splitting those characters apart since otherwise 
something like jaws will just read the 4 of them as a triple letter combo, 
which it definitely isn't)- and actually has 2 output jack sockets, so you 
can also use it to easily split one audio signal into 2 output signals, so I 
could then plug headphones into one socket, to hear what was happening, and 
plug something like my other laptop's audio jack to its line in into the 
other socket to then handle the recording, but this would still require the 
use of the other laptop to handle the recording, which is specifically what 
I'd like to avoid having to do.


Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

- Original Message - 
From: "Yohandy" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 1:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Recording PC sound output for 
thingslikepodcasts/demo's etc. on windows7




Jacob,
This is the biggest annoyance I find with recent versions of Windows. 
configuring sound settings is a major pain. What I did was buy an external 
soundcard type device that allows me to record from external sources, like 
my playstation 3 for example. If you want to record from the sound card, 
I'm not sure what to tell ya. My sound card allows me to record, but there 
are 2 huge issues. First it sounds like total garbage. and second, I 
cannot unmute the mic while stereo mix is active, because there can only 
be 1 audio device enabled. I haven't found a workaround for the stereo mix 
issue yet, although I would be interested if anyone has any suggestions. 
I've been looking for a good way to do this for years.



- Original Message - 
From: "Jacob Kruger" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 6:42 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Recording PC sound output for things 
likepodcasts/demo's etc. on windows7



OK, while I could just use an external microphone/device to record my 
computer's audio output, including surrounding sounds, maybe me talking 
etc., etc., while using my current primary windows7 ultimate 64 bit 
primary machine, on machines like windows XP, it seemed you could easily 
enough, sometimes use either a sort of virtual audio recording device 
called stereo mix, or one called what you hear, and then using something 
like either audacity, or 2 other recording apps have gotten hold of - see 
below - record just the computers actual audio output, including 
screenreader voices,  a bit more cleanly.


Anyway, on this windows7 64 bit machine, I had to firstly go and make the 
stereo mix recording device show up, since it sort of gets hidden by 
windows7 itself - in start menu search box, I type in:

sound card

and then hit enter on "change sound card settings".

Then in that dialogue box, I ctrl + tab to recording page, and in list of 
recording devices, it only showed microphone and audio line in - and this 
is linked to my PC's realtek sound card.


When I then invoked a right mouse click on that list, using the jaws 
cursor, on the context menu item there's a menu item saying something 
like show disabled devices, and then I could find a stereo mix device 
listing, and if I invoked it's properties, I could in fact enable it, 
make changes to it's volume levels, etc. etc.


However, even if I make it the default device - also from that dialogue, 
or specifically choose to use it in either audacity, or the 2 apps listed 
below, the sound files do have a file size, and a recorded time length, 
but are just silent..?


Most guys who've done something similar to this on windowsXP machines 
reckon the device would normally be called something like what you hear, 
but anyway - was just wondering if anyone had any ideas related to a 
feasible workaround for this type of issue, asides from actually 
recording the PC's output using an external device/unit/microphone placed 
in front of speakers, since it might be nice to be able to record 
demo's/tutorial material related to some things like this, without having 
to first connect external units/cables, etc. etc.


Lastly, those two bits of  software found/tracked down that let you sort 
of record directly to MP3 files - in theory anyway - and w