[Audyssey] Windows screen reader software?

2011-01-28 Thread David Rose
Hi folks, My apologies if I bring up a question that has already been discussed to death, but I don't see anything about this in a casual browsing of the archives. At first I thought I didn't have any screen reader software, so I couldn't test the accessibility of my RSW website directly.

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2011-01-28 Thread Michael Feir
Magazine 1996-2004 Check out my blog at: www.michaelfeir.blogspot.com - Original Message - From: David Rose drokaudysseygam...@ddrose.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 1:07 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Windows screen reader software? Hi folks

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2011-01-28 Thread Dean Masters
: [Audyssey] Windows screen reader software? | Hi folks, | | My apologies if I bring up a question that has already been discussed to | death, but I don't see anything about this in a casual browsing of the | archives. | | At first I thought I didn't have any screen reader software, so I | couldn't

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2011-01-28 Thread Pitermach
:07 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Windows screen reader software? | Hi folks, | | My apologies if I bring up a question that has already been discussed to | death, but I don't see anything about this in a casual browsing of the | archives. | | At first I thought I didn't have any screen reader software

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2011-01-28 Thread Brandon Misch
that's a hard one. there's jaws from freedom scientific, window-eyes from gw micro. nvda wich is a free product and system access from serotek and you can get a free account at satogo.com On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:07 PM, David Rose wrote: Hi folks, My apologies if I bring up a question that

Re: [Audyssey] Windows screen reader software?

2011-01-28 Thread David Rose
Thanks for the advice, everyone! NVDA and System Access are workable, but clumsy. JAWS is much nicer, it approaches VoiceOver in usability, but it's incredibly expensive (you could buy a new computer for less). Of course, I can use it in the free demo mode for my purposes, but do people

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2011-01-28 Thread Pitermach
but, that's off topic. - Original Message - From: David Rose drokaudysseygam...@ddrose.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows screen reader software? Thanks for the advice, everyone! NVDA and System Access

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2011-01-28 Thread burakyuksek
But it is a not good screenreader. sevgiler saygilar - Original Message - From: Michael Feir michael.f...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows screen reader software? You can get a free one

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2011-01-28 Thread Darren Duff
software? But it is a not good screenreader. sevgiler saygilar - Original Message - From: Michael Feir michael.f...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows screen reader software? You can get a free

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2011-01-28 Thread burakyuksek
But it is not reading msn. Jaws is good than it. This is my thot. sevgiler saygilar - Original Message - From: Darren Duff duff...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows screen reader software

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2011-01-28 Thread Brandon Misch
most people either have one or more than one of the screen readers i myself have all 4 that being jaws, system access nvda and window-eyes? have you tried window-eyes out? On Jan 28, 2011, at 2:09 PM, David Rose wrote: Thanks for the advice, everyone! NVDA and System Access are workable,

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2011-01-28 Thread Brandon Misch
:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows screen reader software? Thanks for the advice, everyone! NVDA and System Access are workable, but clumsy. JAWS is much nicer, it approaches VoiceOver in usability, but it's incredibly expensive (you could buy a new computer for less). Of course, I

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2011-01-28 Thread shaun everiss
Message - From: Dean Masters dwmast...@earthlink.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 7:27 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows screen reader software? You can try demos of JAWS by Freedom Scientific and windoweyes by GWMicro. And there is the free NVDA

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2011-01-28 Thread Kai
...@ddrose.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows screen reader software? Thanks for the advice, everyone! NVDA and System Access are workable, but clumsy. JAWS is much nicer, it approaches VoiceOver

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2011-01-28 Thread shaun everiss
well any screen reader will work, strictly speaking there is some w3c guidelines at w3c.org or something but I have never viewed this. These guidelines are for accessability and are probably something you want to look for. Having headings and sub headings were applicable, lists, bulleted or

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2011-01-28 Thread shaun everiss
well comercial readers cost loads. Jaws is not the be all end all though loads of people in organisations will tell you its the only one. Nvda is a simple reader that is a narater replacement. If you never have any need to run vertual mode or anything then nvda works quite well. Its also not

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2011-01-28 Thread shaun everiss
...@ddrose.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows screen reader software? Thanks for the advice, everyone! NVDA and System Access are workable, but clumsy. JAWS is much nicer, it approaches VoiceOver in usability

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2011-01-28 Thread Scott Chesworth
Hi David, Yup, as a user experience NVDA feels a little clunky at times, but I'd still recommend testing with that on Windows. My thinking is that NVDA currently has the least amount of quirks in terms of how it interprets HTML, so although it's a bit raw, a page that is easy for you to use with

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2011-01-28 Thread Kai
reader software? But it is a not good screenreader. sevgiler saygilar - Original Message - From: Michael Feir michael.f...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows screen reader software? You can

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2011-01-28 Thread shaun everiss
...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of burakyuksek Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 3:07 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows screen reader software? But it is a not good screenreader. sevgiler saygilar - Original Message - From: Michael Feir michael.f...@gmail.com To: Gamers

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2011-01-28 Thread shaun everiss
: But it is not reading msn. Jaws is good than it. This is my thot. sevgiler saygilar - Original Message - From: Darren Duff duff...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows screen reader software? Why

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2011-01-28 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi David, Speaking for myself, I use Window-Eyes on the PC and VoiceOver on the Mac, and Speakup under Linux. The latter would probably be difficult to test, as it requires a complete new OS, and besides is definitely in the minority as far as total usage goes. Hope this helps, Zack. On Jan

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2011-01-28 Thread David Rose
Thanks for the advice, everyone! I apologize for setting off a firecracker in your midst. :) I will continue to test with NVDA and back it up with an occasional check with JAWS and Window-Eyes on the PC, and VoiceOver on Mac. (The accessibility guidelines are useful, and of course I have

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2011-01-28 Thread dark
gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 6:07 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Windows screen reader software? Hi folks, My apologies if I bring up a question that has already been discussed to death, but I don't see anything about this in a casual browsing of the archives. At first I thought

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2011-01-28 Thread dark
PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows screen reader software? and then there's system access, which is also free which you can run by going to www.satogo.com - Original Message - From: Dean Masters dwmast...@earthlink.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday

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2011-01-28 Thread dark
drokaudysseygam...@ddrose.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows screen reader software? Thanks for the advice, everyone! NVDA and System Access are workable, but clumsy. JAWS is much nicer, it approaches VoiceOver

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2011-01-28 Thread dark
the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Brandon Misch bmisch2...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows screen reader software? you hear more about jaws window-eyes and nvda isnstead of super

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2011-01-28 Thread Jorge Gonçalves
Message - From: Pitermach piterm...@gmail.com To: Dean Masters dwmast...@earthlink.net; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows screen reader software? and then there's system access, which is also free which you can run

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2011-01-28 Thread Pitermach
to make things fun in Poland window-eyes seems to be more popular. Heck that was the first sr I got introduced to. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 11:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows screen

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2011-01-28 Thread Charles Rivard
: Friday, January 28, 2011 12:07 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Windows screen reader software? Hi folks, My apologies if I bring up a question that has already been discussed to death, but I don't see anything about this in a casual browsing of the archives. At first I thought I didn't have any screen

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2011-01-28 Thread Ken the Crazy
the Caring without the Staring! - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows screen reader software? Just to add my point. You can try out a demo of hal by going