Re: [Audyssey] Wondering about the size of the audio gamingcommunity

2013-05-02 Thread Willem Venter
This does not take into account people like me who do not regularly
post to this list.

On 5/1/13, Phil Vlasak  wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> It's easy to find out how many participate in the Audyssey list,
> Jim Kitchen lets us know the beginning of each month:
> 126 people posted 2241 messages
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Thomas Ward" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 5:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Wondering about the size of the audio
> gamingcommunity
>
>
>> Hi Ian,
>>
>> Well, the number of members who are subscribed to the Audyssey list
>> generally is about 300 give or take a few. In the six years or so
>> since I have been moderating the list sometimes it has been as low as
>> 280 and as high as 320 per month. It just depends on how many
>> subscribe and unsubscribe. However, I don't believe that is anywhere
>> near the number of actual people who are out there playing games.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] Wondering about the size of the audio gamingcommunity

2013-05-01 Thread Phil Vlasak

Hi Folks,
It's easy to find out how many participate in the Audyssey list,
Jim Kitchen lets us know the beginning of each month:
126 people posted 2241 messages

- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas Ward" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Wondering about the size of the audio 
gamingcommunity




Hi Ian,

Well, the number of members who are subscribed to the Audyssey list
generally is about 300 give or take a few. In the six years or so
since I have been moderating the list sometimes it has been as low as
280 and as high as 320 per month. It just depends on how many
subscribe and unsubscribe. However, I don't believe that is anywhere
near the number of actual people who are out there playing games.



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Re: [Audyssey] Wondering about the size of the audio gamingcommunity

2013-05-01 Thread James Bartlett

Hello

   I don't think it's that much. being a member for a little bit now I've 
got to learn the people that wright all the time. I think that people on 
this list should be more involved. Not just with ansering questions or 
posting comments, but with asking questions to. knolage is power, and the 
way to gane knolage is by asking questions.


bfn
James

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From: "Charles Rivard" 
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 5:43 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Wondering about the size of the audio 
gamingcommunity



I wonder how many list subscribers actually participate?

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From: "Thomas Ward" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Wondering about the size of the audio 
gamingcommunity




Hi Ian,

Well, the number of members who are subscribed to the Audyssey list
generally is about 300 give or take a few. In the six years or so
since I have been moderating the list sometimes it has been as low as
280 and as high as 320 per month. It just depends on how many
subscribe and unsubscribe. However, I don't believe that is anywhere
near the number of actual people who are out there playing games.

I think the best estimates given is that the audio games community is
somewhere between 1000 and 2000 members total. However, as yet I don't
know if there is a good way to run a survey to find out something more
substantial.

Cheers!


On 4/30/13, Ian Reed  wrote:

Hi Tom, Dark, and developers,

Tom, I was just curious to know how many people are subscribed to this
list.
It would give me a bit more of an idea about the size of the audio
gaming community.

Dark, I noticed that forum.audiogames.net states there are 12,762
registered users.
I wonder if this number includes spam bots that created accounts and
were subsequently banned.
Do you have any idea about the number of registered users who have
visited the site in recent history?

Just curious.  I appreciate any information you can share.

It would also be very interesting to hear the number of actual audio
game sales from developers but I understand if they wish to keep this
private.

For my part I will share that I have between 90 and 190 unique players
of my games in a month and have had 513 users register to play since my
first release.

These numbers are definitely not something to base a business on as even
190 users playing my free games does not equal 190 users willing to
purchase a game.
And if I may say so, recent conversations on this list lead me to
believe that a high number of people would attempt to pirate any games
offered for purchase which make those numbers even weaker.

My games are perhaps not as well targeted or advertised as others so I
wonder if there is a lot more audio games community out there.

I have also heard Aprone quote numbers in the thousands for those who
play Swamp on a fairly consistent basis.  I'd be interested to hear
those again if you're reading Aprone.

Draconis, you seem to be able to maintain a very professional company
which includes more than just yourself.
As an audio game developer who would love to someday be able to support
myself full time writing audio games I'd be interested to know if your
company is able to support you full time or is more of a supplemental
income.

Feel free to write me off list if anyone is willing to share things on
an individual basis but not with the entire list.

Ian Reed
supp...@blindaudiogames.com


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Re: [Audyssey] Wondering about the size of the audio gamingcommunity

2013-05-01 Thread James Bartlett
wow is that the percentages of that. that is out standing. I can't beleve 
that it's so high.


bfn
James

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Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 5:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Wondering about the size of the audio 
gamingcommunity



When it comes to selling actual copies of standalone games, the piracy
rate is typically between 90% and 98% of the total.  If your game is
popular and your anti-piracy protection is weak, one player in 50 will
buy your game.

Dennis Towne

Alter Aeon MUD
http://www.alteraeon.com


On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Jeremy Kaldobsky  
wrote:
Ian, it has been a while since I've checked but Swamp had over 3000 
unique players last time I looked at the numbers.  I believe it was in 
the neighborhood of 3600, but that could have changed a lot since then, 
especially with my exceptionally buggy 2.9 release ROFL!  :D


As you've stated with your own players, these 3600 players of a free game 
would not translate into 3600 players of a paid game.  You'd have to get 
numbers from someone who has sold a commercial game to better judge the 
size of the audio games community in terms of "willing to pay" players.


- Aprone

--- On Tue, 4/30/13, Ian Reed  wrote:


From: Ian Reed 
Subject: [Audyssey] Wondering about the size of the audio gaming 
community

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Date: Tuesday, April 30, 2013, 3:19 PM
Hi Tom, Dark, and developers,

Tom, I was just curious to know how many people are
subscribed to this list.
It would give me a bit more of an idea about the size of the
audio gaming community.

Dark, I noticed that forum.audiogames.net states there are
12,762 registered users.
I wonder if this number includes spam bots that created
accounts and were subsequently banned.
Do you have any idea about the number of registered users
who have visited the site in recent history?

Just curious.  I appreciate any information you can
share.

It would also be very interesting to hear the number of
actual audio game sales from developers but I understand if
they wish to keep this private.

For my part I will share that I have between 90 and 190
unique players of my games in a month and have had 513 users
register to play since my first release.

These numbers are definitely not something to base a
business on as even 190 users playing my free games does not
equal 190 users willing to purchase a game.
And if I may say so, recent conversations on this list lead
me to believe that a high number of people would attempt to
pirate any games offered for purchase which make those
numbers even weaker.

My games are perhaps not as well targeted or advertised as
others so I wonder if there is a lot more audio games
community out there.

I have also heard Aprone quote numbers in the thousands for
those who play Swamp on a fairly consistent basis.  I'd
be interested to hear those again if you're reading Aprone.

Draconis, you seem to be able to maintain a very
professional company which includes more than just
yourself.
As an audio game developer who would love to someday be able
to support myself full time writing audio games I'd be
interested to know if your company is able to support you
full time or is more of a supplemental income.

Feel free to write me off list if anyone is willing to share
things on an individual basis but not with the entire list.

Ian Reed
supp...@blindaudiogames.com



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Re: [Audyssey] Wondering about the size of the audio gamingcommunity

2013-04-30 Thread Charles Rivard

I wonder how many list subscribers actually participate?

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- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas Ward" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Wondering about the size of the audio 
gamingcommunity




Hi Ian,

Well, the number of members who are subscribed to the Audyssey list
generally is about 300 give or take a few. In the six years or so
since I have been moderating the list sometimes it has been as low as
280 and as high as 320 per month. It just depends on how many
subscribe and unsubscribe. However, I don't believe that is anywhere
near the number of actual people who are out there playing games.

I think the best estimates given is that the audio games community is
somewhere between 1000 and 2000 members total. However, as yet I don't
know if there is a good way to run a survey to find out something more
substantial.

Cheers!


On 4/30/13, Ian Reed  wrote:

Hi Tom, Dark, and developers,

Tom, I was just curious to know how many people are subscribed to this
list.
It would give me a bit more of an idea about the size of the audio
gaming community.

Dark, I noticed that forum.audiogames.net states there are 12,762
registered users.
I wonder if this number includes spam bots that created accounts and
were subsequently banned.
Do you have any idea about the number of registered users who have
visited the site in recent history?

Just curious.  I appreciate any information you can share.

It would also be very interesting to hear the number of actual audio
game sales from developers but I understand if they wish to keep this
private.

For my part I will share that I have between 90 and 190 unique players
of my games in a month and have had 513 users register to play since my
first release.

These numbers are definitely not something to base a business on as even
190 users playing my free games does not equal 190 users willing to
purchase a game.
And if I may say so, recent conversations on this list lead me to
believe that a high number of people would attempt to pirate any games
offered for purchase which make those numbers even weaker.

My games are perhaps not as well targeted or advertised as others so I
wonder if there is a lot more audio games community out there.

I have also heard Aprone quote numbers in the thousands for those who
play Swamp on a fairly consistent basis.  I'd be interested to hear
those again if you're reading Aprone.

Draconis, you seem to be able to maintain a very professional company
which includes more than just yourself.
As an audio game developer who would love to someday be able to support
myself full time writing audio games I'd be interested to know if your
company is able to support you full time or is more of a supplemental
income.

Feel free to write me off list if anyone is willing to share things on
an individual basis but not with the entire list.

Ian Reed
supp...@blindaudiogames.com


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