[Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

2013-12-15 Thread Shane Davidson
Hello;

My name is Shane Davidson, owner of the company that provides hosting
services for both the Audyssey and USAGames interactive websites.

My staff became aware both yesterday and early this morning of some very
despicable behavior by one member, (or x-member, this is yet to be
determined). This individual was posting hateful, difamitory, and sexually
harassing messages, posing as other valid and upstanding list members who
have been apart of the blind gaming community for years as gamers,
developers and as interested parties.

We take this very seriously, and on behalf of my company, and this lists
management, I extend my most heartfelt apologies to each and every one of
you.

I have requested, and obtained the cooperation of the underlying service
provider that was providing this individuals vehicle to become a royal pain,
Linode LLC. Who have assured me that they are taking steps to stop this
behavior immediately.

I have also opened a ticket on behalf of Thomas Ward, who owns both Audyssey
and USAGames interactive, in our own support system so we can more easily
track this issue.

We are working diligently to bring this to an end, and please don't leave
over this.

Thank you for your patience and time.

Sincerely;

Shane Davidson

 

 

 

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Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

2013-12-15 Thread dark

Hello.

Thanks for the appologgy. While I won't deny that seeing the huge volume of 
insulting and s/xually explicit mesages, (especially those supposedly from 
myself), was not pleasant, I do know this was obviously one idiot, and I am 
glad steps are being taken to stop them from doing such again and restrict 
their general internet access in the future.


All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: Shane Davidson sh...@shaned.net

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:04 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.



Hello;

My name is Shane Davidson, owner of the company that provides hosting
services for both the Audyssey and USAGames interactive websites.

My staff became aware both yesterday and early this morning of some very
despicable behavior by one member, (or x-member, this is yet to be
determined). This individual was posting hateful, difamitory, and sexually
harassing messages, posing as other valid and upstanding list members who
have been apart of the blind gaming community for years as gamers,
developers and as interested parties.

We take this very seriously, and on behalf of my company, and this lists
management, I extend my most heartfelt apologies to each and every one of
you.

I have requested, and obtained the cooperation of the underlying service
provider that was providing this individuals vehicle to become a royal 
pain,

Linode LLC. Who have assured me that they are taking steps to stop this
behavior immediately.

I have also opened a ticket on behalf of Thomas Ward, who owns both 
Audyssey

and USAGames interactive, in our own support system so we can more easily
track this issue.

We are working diligently to bring this to an end, and please don't leave
over this.

Thank you for your patience and time.

Sincerely;

Shane Davidson







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Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

2013-12-15 Thread Kenneth Downey
The freakiest part for me was that the very first message I saw was supposedly 
from me. For a second or two, I actually thought I had some kind of virus it 
freaked me out…

Good is the worst enemy of best.
Ken

 On Dec 15, 2013, at 4:27 AM, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 Thanks for the appologgy. While I won't deny that seeing the huge volume of 
 insulting and s/xually explicit mesages, (especially those supposedly from 
 myself), was not pleasant, I do know this was obviously one idiot, and I am 
 glad steps are being taken to stop them from doing such again and restrict 
 their general internet access in the future.
 
 All the best,
 
 Dark.
 - Original Message - From: Shane Davidson sh...@shaned.net
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:04 AM
 Subject: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.
 
 
 Hello;
 
 My name is Shane Davidson, owner of the company that provides hosting
 services for both the Audyssey and USAGames interactive websites.
 
 My staff became aware both yesterday and early this morning of some very
 despicable behavior by one member, (or x-member, this is yet to be
 determined). This individual was posting hateful, difamitory, and sexually
 harassing messages, posing as other valid and upstanding list members who
 have been apart of the blind gaming community for years as gamers,
 developers and as interested parties.
 
 We take this very seriously, and on behalf of my company, and this lists
 management, I extend my most heartfelt apologies to each and every one of
 you.
 
 I have requested, and obtained the cooperation of the underlying service
 provider that was providing this individuals vehicle to become a royal pain,
 Linode LLC. Who have assured me that they are taking steps to stop this
 behavior immediately.
 
 I have also opened a ticket on behalf of Thomas Ward, who owns both Audyssey
 and USAGames interactive, in our own support system so we can more easily
 track this issue.
 
 We are working diligently to bring this to an end, and please don't leave
 over this.
 
 Thank you for your patience and time.
 
 Sincerely;
 
 Shane Davidson
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

2013-12-15 Thread loriduncan
So did i,it really scared me especially as the message itself was very badly 
written incontent.


-Original Message- 
From: Kenneth Downey

Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:15 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

The freakiest part for me was that the very first message I saw was 
supposedly from me. For a second or two, I actually thought I had some kind 
of virus it freaked me out…


Good is the worst enemy of best.
Ken


On Dec 15, 2013, at 4:27 AM, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:

Hello.

Thanks for the appologgy. While I won't deny that seeing the huge volume 
of insulting and s/xually explicit mesages, (especially those supposedly 
from myself), was not pleasant, I do know this was obviously one idiot, 
and I am glad steps are being taken to stop them from doing such again and 
restrict their general internet access in the future.


All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message - From: Shane Davidson sh...@shaned.net
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:04 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.



Hello;

My name is Shane Davidson, owner of the company that provides hosting
services for both the Audyssey and USAGames interactive websites.

My staff became aware both yesterday and early this morning of some very
despicable behavior by one member, (or x-member, this is yet to be
determined). This individual was posting hateful, difamitory, and 
sexually

harassing messages, posing as other valid and upstanding list members who
have been apart of the blind gaming community for years as gamers,
developers and as interested parties.

We take this very seriously, and on behalf of my company, and this lists
management, I extend my most heartfelt apologies to each and every one of
you.

I have requested, and obtained the cooperation of the underlying service
provider that was providing this individuals vehicle to become a royal 
pain,

Linode LLC. Who have assured me that they are taking steps to stop this
behavior immediately.

I have also opened a ticket on behalf of Thomas Ward, who owns both 
Audyssey

and USAGames interactive, in our own support system so we can more easily
track this issue.

We are working diligently to bring this to an end, and please don't leave
over this.

Thank you for your patience and time.

Sincerely;

Shane Davidson







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Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

2013-12-15 Thread Josh
I wondr who this person was that was sending so many unwelcome messages 
to the list? Last time a list was spammed it was coming from some blind 
person in the middle east somewhere.


using windows7 laptop

On 12/15/2013 4:27 AM, dark wrote:

Hello.

Thanks for the appologgy. While I won't deny that seeing the huge 
volume of insulting and s/xually explicit mesages, (especially those 
supposedly from myself), was not pleasant, I do know this was 
obviously one idiot, and I am glad steps are being taken to stop them 
from doing such again and restrict their general internet access in 
the future.


All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message - From: Shane Davidson sh...@shaned.net
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:04 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.



Hello;

My name is Shane Davidson, owner of the company that provides hosting
services for both the Audyssey and USAGames interactive websites.

My staff became aware both yesterday and early this morning of some very
despicable behavior by one member, (or x-member, this is yet to be
determined). This individual was posting hateful, difamitory, and 
sexually
harassing messages, posing as other valid and upstanding list members 
who

have been apart of the blind gaming community for years as gamers,
developers and as interested parties.

We take this very seriously, and on behalf of my company, and this lists
management, I extend my most heartfelt apologies to each and every 
one of

you.

I have requested, and obtained the cooperation of the underlying service
provider that was providing this individuals vehicle to become a 
royal pain,

Linode LLC. Who have assured me that they are taking steps to stop this
behavior immediately.

I have also opened a ticket on behalf of Thomas Ward, who owns both 
Audyssey
and USAGames interactive, in our own support system so we can more 
easily

track this issue.

We are working diligently to bring this to an end, and please don't 
leave

over this.

Thank you for your patience and time.

Sincerely;

Shane Davidson







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Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

2013-12-15 Thread loriduncan

Whoever it is should be banned from using the list.

-Original Message- 
From: Josh

Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 2:40 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

I wondr who this person was that was sending so many unwelcome messages
to the list? Last time a list was spammed it was coming from some blind
person in the middle east somewhere.

using windows7 laptop

On 12/15/2013 4:27 AM, dark wrote:

Hello.

Thanks for the appologgy. While I won't deny that seeing the huge volume 
of insulting and s/xually explicit mesages, (especially those supposedly 
from myself), was not pleasant, I do know this was obviously one idiot, 
and I am glad steps are being taken to stop them from doing such again and 
restrict their general internet access in the future.


All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message - From: Shane Davidson sh...@shaned.net
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:04 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.



Hello;

My name is Shane Davidson, owner of the company that provides hosting
services for both the Audyssey and USAGames interactive websites.

My staff became aware both yesterday and early this morning of some very
despicable behavior by one member, (or x-member, this is yet to be
determined). This individual was posting hateful, difamitory, and 
sexually

harassing messages, posing as other valid and upstanding list members who
have been apart of the blind gaming community for years as gamers,
developers and as interested parties.

We take this very seriously, and on behalf of my company, and this lists
management, I extend my most heartfelt apologies to each and every one of
you.

I have requested, and obtained the cooperation of the underlying service
provider that was providing this individuals vehicle to become a royal 
pain,

Linode LLC. Who have assured me that they are taking steps to stop this
behavior immediately.

I have also opened a ticket on behalf of Thomas Ward, who owns both 
Audyssey

and USAGames interactive, in our own support system so we can more easily
track this issue.

We are working diligently to bring this to an end, and please don't leave
over this.

Thank you for your patience and time.

Sincerely;

Shane Davidson







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Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

2013-12-15 Thread Thomas Ward
Hello Lori,

It isn't quite that simple. The people responsible for the spam
attacks were faking e-mail addresses of various legitimate list
members, and obviously the e-mails did not actually come from those
members themselves. However, Mailman, the list software we use, has no
way of knowing if an e-mail address is being faked or not and approved
them not knowing it was spam. However, we have contacted Linode and
are working to cut off the perpetrator's access to the list.

cheers!

On 12/15/13, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Whoever it is should be banned from using the list.

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Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

2013-12-15 Thread Lindsay Cowell
I think that anyone who jeopardizes such a wonderful lists, security should be 
forcibly removed, once they are found. This type of behaviour just, isn't, 
acceptable.

Lindsay Cowell

-original message-
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.
From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
Date: 15/12/2013 6:44 pm

Hello Lori,

It isn't quite that simple. The people responsible for the spam
attacks were faking e-mail addresses of various legitimate list
members, and obviously the e-mails did not actually come from those
members themselves. However, Mailman, the list software we use, has no
way of knowing if an e-mail address is being faked or not and approved
them not knowing it was spam. However, we have contacted Linode and
are working to cut off the perpetrator's access to the list.

cheers!

On 12/15/13, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Whoever it is should be banned from using the list.

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Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

2013-12-15 Thread Charles Rivard
I would like to see the perpetrators cut off from the Internet entirely. 
Can't be done, though, unless they were imprisoned, which isn't too bad of 
an idea, either.


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From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.



Hello Lori,

It isn't quite that simple. The people responsible for the spam
attacks were faking e-mail addresses of various legitimate list
members, and obviously the e-mails did not actually come from those
members themselves. However, Mailman, the list software we use, has no
way of knowing if an e-mail address is being faked or not and approved
them not knowing it was spam. However, we have contacted Linode and
are working to cut off the perpetrator's access to the list.

cheers!

On 12/15/13, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote:

Whoever it is should be banned from using the list.


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Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

2013-12-15 Thread loriduncan
I agree, and the same goes for those stupid hackers and cheaters on Swamp 
and other games.


-Original Message- 
From: Charles Rivard

Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 8:19 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

I would like to see the perpetrators cut off from the Internet entirely.
Can't be done, though, unless they were imprisoned, which isn't too bad of
an idea, either.

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From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.



Hello Lori,

It isn't quite that simple. The people responsible for the spam
attacks were faking e-mail addresses of various legitimate list
members, and obviously the e-mails did not actually come from those
members themselves. However, Mailman, the list software we use, has no
way of knowing if an e-mail address is being faked or not and approved
them not knowing it was spam. However, we have contacted Linode and
are working to cut off the perpetrator's access to the list.

cheers!

On 12/15/13, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote:

Whoever it is should be banned from using the list.


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Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

2013-12-15 Thread Christopher Bartlett
If this is who I think it is, and it is a similar enough modus operandi to
be likely, he is mentally ill.  Please be kind, even though you have
suffered some annoyance, and in the cases of the people he has impersonated
possible actual harm, since the messages are now forever and findable on the
Internet, I think he's a sick individual and needs compassion rather than
scathing rage.

Of course if it's someone else, then feed him his genitals for all I care.

Chris Bartlett


-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of loriduncan
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 3:26 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

I agree, and the same goes for those stupid hackers and cheaters on Swamp 
and other games.

-Original Message- 
From: Charles Rivard
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 8:19 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

I would like to see the perpetrators cut off from the Internet entirely.
Can't be done, though, unless they were imprisoned, which isn't too bad of
an idea, either.

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you! really! are! finished!
- Original Message - 
From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.


 Hello Lori,

 It isn't quite that simple. The people responsible for the spam
 attacks were faking e-mail addresses of various legitimate list
 members, and obviously the e-mails did not actually come from those
 members themselves. However, Mailman, the list software we use, has no
 way of knowing if an e-mail address is being faked or not and approved
 them not knowing it was spam. However, we have contacted Linode and
 are working to cut off the perpetrator's access to the list.

 cheers!

 On 12/15/13, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Whoever it is should be banned from using the list.

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Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

2013-12-15 Thread Philip Bennefall
This is an interesting point, actually. Can the messages be removed from the 
archives? I would not particularly enjoy having these things found when 
doing a Google search for my name.


Kind regards,

Philip Bennefall
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Bartlett atouchofrevere...@gmail.com

To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 11:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.


If this is who I think it is, and it is a similar enough modus operandi to
be likely, he is mentally ill.  Please be kind, even though you have
suffered some annoyance, and in the cases of the people he has impersonated
possible actual harm, since the messages are now forever and findable on the
Internet, I think he's a sick individual and needs compassion rather than
scathing rage.

Of course if it's someone else, then feed him his genitals for all I care.

Chris Bartlett


-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of loriduncan
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 3:26 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

I agree, and the same goes for those stupid hackers and cheaters on Swamp
and other games.

-Original Message- 
From: Charles Rivard

Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 8:19 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

I would like to see the perpetrators cut off from the Internet entirely.
Can't be done, though, unless they were imprisoned, which isn't too bad of
an idea, either.

---
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you! really! are! finished!
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From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.



Hello Lori,

It isn't quite that simple. The people responsible for the spam
attacks were faking e-mail addresses of various legitimate list
members, and obviously the e-mails did not actually come from those
members themselves. However, Mailman, the list software we use, has no
way of knowing if an e-mail address is being faked or not and approved
them not knowing it was spam. However, we have contacted Linode and
are working to cut off the perpetrator's access to the list.

cheers!

On 12/15/13, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote:

Whoever it is should be banned from using the list.


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Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

2013-12-15 Thread loriduncan
Hi Chris, lol that last line of your email sent me into fits laughing, I 
hardly ever fly into rages, but hackers spammers and cheaters really make me 
mad.


-Original Message- 
From: Christopher Bartlett

Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:52 PM
To: 'Gamers Discussion list'
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

If this is who I think it is, and it is a similar enough modus operandi to
be likely, he is mentally ill.  Please be kind, even though you have
suffered some annoyance, and in the cases of the people he has impersonated
possible actual harm, since the messages are now forever and findable on the
Internet, I think he's a sick individual and needs compassion rather than
scathing rage.

Of course if it's someone else, then feed him his genitals for all I care.

Chris Bartlett


-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of loriduncan
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 3:26 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

I agree, and the same goes for those stupid hackers and cheaters on Swamp
and other games.

-Original Message- 
From: Charles Rivard

Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 8:19 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

I would like to see the perpetrators cut off from the Internet entirely.
Can't be done, though, unless they were imprisoned, which isn't too bad of
an idea, either.

---
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you! really! are! finished!
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From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.



Hello Lori,

It isn't quite that simple. The people responsible for the spam
attacks were faking e-mail addresses of various legitimate list
members, and obviously the e-mails did not actually come from those
members themselves. However, Mailman, the list software we use, has no
way of knowing if an e-mail address is being faked or not and approved
them not knowing it was spam. However, we have contacted Linode and
are working to cut off the perpetrator's access to the list.

cheers!

On 12/15/13, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote:

Whoever it is should be banned from using the list.


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Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

2013-12-15 Thread loriduncan
Hi Philip, isn't there a program you can run which automatically removes 
spam before it can reach the list?  Maybe it could be re-directed to bounce 
back to the owner?  From Lori.


-Original Message- 
From: Philip Bennefall

Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:57 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

This is an interesting point, actually. Can the messages be removed from the
archives? I would not particularly enjoy having these things found when
doing a Google search for my name.

Kind regards,

Philip Bennefall
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Bartlett atouchofrevere...@gmail.com

To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 11:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.


If this is who I think it is, and it is a similar enough modus operandi to
be likely, he is mentally ill.  Please be kind, even though you have
suffered some annoyance, and in the cases of the people he has impersonated
possible actual harm, since the messages are now forever and findable on the
Internet, I think he's a sick individual and needs compassion rather than
scathing rage.

Of course if it's someone else, then feed him his genitals for all I care.

Chris Bartlett


-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of loriduncan
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 3:26 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

I agree, and the same goes for those stupid hackers and cheaters on Swamp
and other games.

-Original Message- 
From: Charles Rivard

Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 8:19 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

I would like to see the perpetrators cut off from the Internet entirely.
Can't be done, though, unless they were imprisoned, which isn't too bad of
an idea, either.

---
Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished,
you! really! are! finished!
- Original Message - 
From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.



Hello Lori,

It isn't quite that simple. The people responsible for the spam
attacks were faking e-mail addresses of various legitimate list
members, and obviously the e-mails did not actually come from those
members themselves. However, Mailman, the list software we use, has no
way of knowing if an e-mail address is being faked or not and approved
them not knowing it was spam. However, we have contacted Linode and
are working to cut off the perpetrator's access to the list.

cheers!

On 12/15/13, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote:

Whoever it is should be banned from using the list.


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Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

2013-12-15 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Philip,

Yes, they can, but it will take a bit of work. It will require
grabbing the archive file, and manually deleting them from the
archives and then replacing the archives with the edited ones. It is
possible to do and I was strongly considering something like this
anyway.

Cheers!


On 12/15/13, Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com wrote:
 This is an interesting point, actually. Can the messages be removed from the

 archives? I would not particularly enjoy having these things found when
 doing a Google search for my name.

 Kind regards,

 Philip Bennefall

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Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

2013-12-15 Thread Philip Bennefall

Hi Lori,

The spam wasn't actually sent from the email accounts from which it seemed 
to originate. The email addresses were set correctly, but the SMTP server of 
the sender is entirely different from mine and this is how they can 
potentially be traced. So there is nothing that I can do locally to prevent 
my name from being used, unfortunately.


Kind regards,

Philip Bennefall
- Original Message - 
From: loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com

To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 12:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.


Hi Philip, isn't there a program you can run which automatically removes
spam before it can reach the list?  Maybe it could be re-directed to bounce
back to the owner?  From Lori. 



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Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

2013-12-15 Thread Philip Bennefall
Great to know, Thomas. I, and I'm sure the other people who's names were 
used, would appreciate that. I imagine a regular expression could be used to 
speed up the procedure considerably.


Kind regards,

Philip Bennefall
- Original Message - 
From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com

To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 12:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.


Hi Philip,

Yes, they can, but it will take a bit of work. It will require
grabbing the archive file, and manually deleting them from the
archives and then replacing the archives with the edited ones. It is
possible to do and I was strongly considering something like this
anyway.

Cheers! 



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Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

2013-12-15 Thread Lisa Hayes
What a good idea and destroy their net access in the process really give 
them some curry to deal with.

Lisa Hayes




www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes

- Original Message - 
From: loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com
To: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list 
gamers@audyssey.org

Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.


Hi Philip, isn't there a program you can run which automatically removes 
spam before it can reach the list?  Maybe it could be re-directed to 
bounce back to the owner?  From Lori.


-Original Message- 
From: Philip Bennefall

Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:57 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

This is an interesting point, actually. Can the messages be removed from 
the

archives? I would not particularly enjoy having these things found when
doing a Google search for my name.

Kind regards,

Philip Bennefall
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Bartlett atouchofrevere...@gmail.com

To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 11:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.


If this is who I think it is, and it is a similar enough modus operandi to
be likely, he is mentally ill.  Please be kind, even though you have
suffered some annoyance, and in the cases of the people he has 
impersonated
possible actual harm, since the messages are now forever and findable on 
the

Internet, I think he's a sick individual and needs compassion rather than
scathing rage.

Of course if it's someone else, then feed him his genitals for all I care.

Chris Bartlett


-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of loriduncan
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 3:26 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

I agree, and the same goes for those stupid hackers and cheaters on Swamp
and other games.

-Original Message- 
From: Charles Rivard

Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 8:19 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

I would like to see the perpetrators cut off from the Internet entirely.
Can't be done, though, unless they were imprisoned, which isn't too bad of
an idea, either.

---
Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're 
finished,

you! really! are! finished!
- Original Message - 
From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.



Hello Lori,

It isn't quite that simple. The people responsible for the spam
attacks were faking e-mail addresses of various legitimate list
members, and obviously the e-mails did not actually come from those
members themselves. However, Mailman, the list software we use, has no
way of knowing if an e-mail address is being faked or not and approved
them not knowing it was spam. However, we have contacted Linode and
are working to cut off the perpetrator's access to the list.

cheers!

On 12/15/13, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote:

Whoever it is should be banned from using the list.


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Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

2013-12-15 Thread Lisa Hayes
I can get that and who'd want to be a parent and see that their kid would 
never be able to join this list if messages like that were seen by the 
public.

Lisa Hayes




www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes

- Original Message - 
From: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.


This is an interesting point, actually. Can the messages be removed from 
the archives? I would not particularly enjoy having these things found 
when doing a Google search for my name.


Kind regards,

Philip Bennefall
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Bartlett atouchofrevere...@gmail.com

To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 11:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.


If this is who I think it is, and it is a similar enough modus operandi to
be likely, he is mentally ill.  Please be kind, even though you have
suffered some annoyance, and in the cases of the people he has 
impersonated
possible actual harm, since the messages are now forever and findable on 
the

Internet, I think he's a sick individual and needs compassion rather than
scathing rage.

Of course if it's someone else, then feed him his genitals for all I care.

Chris Bartlett


-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of loriduncan
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 3:26 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

I agree, and the same goes for those stupid hackers and cheaters on Swamp
and other games.

-Original Message- 
From: Charles Rivard

Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 8:19 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

I would like to see the perpetrators cut off from the Internet entirely.
Can't be done, though, unless they were imprisoned, which isn't too bad of
an idea, either.

---
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finished,

you! really! are! finished!
- Original Message - 
From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.



Hello Lori,

It isn't quite that simple. The people responsible for the spam
attacks were faking e-mail addresses of various legitimate list
members, and obviously the e-mails did not actually come from those
members themselves. However, Mailman, the list software we use, has no
way of knowing if an e-mail address is being faked or not and approved
them not knowing it was spam. However, we have contacted Linode and
are working to cut off the perpetrator's access to the list.

cheers!

On 12/15/13, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote:

Whoever it is should be banned from using the list.


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Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

2013-12-15 Thread dark

Hi Chris.

Does this person know he is mentally ill? If so, then he should take steps 
in his life to deal with that disability and thus make certain for example 
he is not near a computer if this is episodic. I have several friends with 
mental illnesses and this is exactly what they do, manage it like any other 
disability as part of their lives and take responsability for what they can.


Sorry if this sounds harsh, but I being genophobic myself really didn't 
enjoy those messages at all, and I don't appreciate mental illness being 
used as an excuse for harmful behaviour even if it is a reason.


A favourite (and wonderfully politically incorrect), saying of a friend of 
mine who suffers from a very serious mental illness which she has to manage 
on a dayly basis and which genuinely threatens her life is mad, not 
stupid!


If he is unconscious of his mental illness,  well perhaps he should not 
be!


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Bartlett atouchofrevere...@gmail.com

To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.



If this is who I think it is, and it is a similar enough modus operandi to
be likely, he is mentally ill.  Please be kind, even though you have
suffered some annoyance, and in the cases of the people he has 
impersonated
possible actual harm, since the messages are now forever and findable on 
the

Internet, I think he's a sick individual and needs compassion rather than
scathing rage.

Of course if it's someone else, then feed him his genitals for all I care.

Chris Bartlett


-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of loriduncan
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 3:26 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

I agree, and the same goes for those stupid hackers and cheaters on Swamp
and other games.

-Original Message- 
From: Charles Rivard

Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 8:19 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

I would like to see the perpetrators cut off from the Internet entirely.
Can't be done, though, unless they were imprisoned, which isn't too bad of
an idea, either.

---
Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're 
finished,

you! really! are! finished!
- Original Message - 
From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.



Hello Lori,

It isn't quite that simple. The people responsible for the spam
attacks were faking e-mail addresses of various legitimate list
members, and obviously the e-mails did not actually come from those
members themselves. However, Mailman, the list software we use, has no
way of knowing if an e-mail address is being faked or not and approved
them not knowing it was spam. However, we have contacted Linode and
are working to cut off the perpetrator's access to the list.

cheers!

On 12/15/13, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote:

Whoever it is should be banned from using the list.


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Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

2013-12-15 Thread Charles Rivard

On this one, you're absolutely right, however, I will not beware the Grue.

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From: dark d...@xgam.org

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.



Hi Chris.

Does this person know he is mentally ill? If so, then he should take steps 
in his life to deal with that disability and thus make certain for example 
he is not near a computer if this is episodic. I have several friends with 
mental illnesses and this is exactly what they do, manage it like any 
other disability as part of their lives and take responsability for what 
they can.


Sorry if this sounds harsh, but I being genophobic myself really didn't 
enjoy those messages at all, and I don't appreciate mental illness being 
used as an excuse for harmful behaviour even if it is a reason.


A favourite (and wonderfully politically incorrect), saying of a friend of 
mine who suffers from a very serious mental illness which she has to 
manage on a dayly basis and which genuinely threatens her life is mad, 
not stupid!


If he is unconscious of his mental illness,  well perhaps he should 
not be!


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Bartlett atouchofrevere...@gmail.com

To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.


If this is who I think it is, and it is a similar enough modus operandi 
to

be likely, he is mentally ill.  Please be kind, even though you have
suffered some annoyance, and in the cases of the people he has 
impersonated
possible actual harm, since the messages are now forever and findable on 
the

Internet, I think he's a sick individual and needs compassion rather than
scathing rage.

Of course if it's someone else, then feed him his genitals for all I 
care.


Chris Bartlett


-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of loriduncan
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 3:26 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

I agree, and the same goes for those stupid hackers and cheaters on Swamp
and other games.

-Original Message- 
From: Charles Rivard

Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 8:19 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

I would like to see the perpetrators cut off from the Internet entirely.
Can't be done, though, unless they were imprisoned, which isn't too bad 
of

an idea, either.

---
Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're 
finished,

you! really! are! finished!
- Original Message - 
From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.



Hello Lori,

It isn't quite that simple. The people responsible for the spam
attacks were faking e-mail addresses of various legitimate list
members, and obviously the e-mails did not actually come from those
members themselves. However, Mailman, the list software we use, has no
way of knowing if an e-mail address is being faked or not and approved
them not knowing it was spam. However, we have contacted Linode and
are working to cut off the perpetrator's access to the list.

cheers!

On 12/15/13, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote:

Whoever it is should be banned from using the list.


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Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

2013-12-15 Thread Stephen

This is the main reason why I refuse to post on here using my full name.
At least when he sent those messages using the name Stephen it 
cushioned the blow because he wasn't able to use my last name, so if 
people do google my full name, the posts won't show up in the results.

At 09:57 AM 12/16/2013, you wrote:
This is an interesting point, actually. Can the messages be removed 
from the archives? I would not particularly enjoy having these 
things found when doing a Google search for my name.


Kind regards,

Philip Bennefall
- Original Message - From: Christopher Bartlett 
atouchofrevere...@gmail.com

To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 11:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.


If this is who I think it is, and it is a similar enough modus operandi to
be likely, he is mentally ill.  Please be kind, even though you have
suffered some annoyance, and in the cases of the people he has impersonated
possible actual harm, since the messages are now forever and findable on the
Internet, I think he's a sick individual and needs compassion rather than
scathing rage.

Of course if it's someone else, then feed him his genitals for all I care.

Chris Bartlett


-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of loriduncan
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 3:26 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

I agree, and the same goes for those stupid hackers and cheaters on Swamp
and other games.

-Original Message- From: Charles Rivard
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 8:19 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

I would like to see the perpetrators cut off from the Internet entirely.
Can't be done, though, unless they were imprisoned, which isn't too bad of
an idea, either.

---
Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished,
you! really! are! finished!
- Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.



Hello Lori,

It isn't quite that simple. The people responsible for the spam
attacks were faking e-mail addresses of various legitimate list
members, and obviously the e-mails did not actually come from those
members themselves. However, Mailman, the list software we use, has no
way of knowing if an e-mail address is being faked or not and approved
them not knowing it was spam. However, we have contacted Linode and
are working to cut off the perpetrator's access to the list.

cheers!

On 12/15/13, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote:

Whoever it is should be banned from using the list.


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Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

2013-12-15 Thread Ulysses Garcia
I'm going to say something that might sound quite odd but as a research 
scientist that I hope to become in a few years, I would like to 
investigate mental illnesses and how it works. Would would actually 
think that if there was a way to give oneself a mental illness and then 
cure it back would be considered bad science? Many people do not know 
what it is like and many people wonder about that.
Join me and others at the National Alliance on Mental Illness. 
http://www.nami.org/

On 12/15/2013 6:29 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:
On this one, you're absolutely right, however, I will not beware the 
Grue.


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- Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.



Hi Chris.

Does this person know he is mentally ill? If so, then he should take 
steps in his life to deal with that disability and thus make certain 
for example he is not near a computer if this is episodic. I have 
several friends with mental illnesses and this is exactly what they 
do, manage it like any other disability as part of their lives and 
take responsability for what they can.


Sorry if this sounds harsh, but I being genophobic myself really 
didn't enjoy those messages at all, and I don't appreciate mental 
illness being used as an excuse for harmful behaviour even if it is a 
reason.


A favourite (and wonderfully politically incorrect), saying of a 
friend of mine who suffers from a very serious mental illness which 
she has to manage on a dayly basis and which genuinely threatens her 
life is mad, not stupid!


If he is unconscious of his mental illness,  well perhaps he 
should not be!


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - From: Christopher Bartlett 
atouchofrevere...@gmail.com

To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.


If this is who I think it is, and it is a similar enough modus 
operandi to

be likely, he is mentally ill.  Please be kind, even though you have
suffered some annoyance, and in the cases of the people he has 
impersonated
possible actual harm, since the messages are now forever and 
findable on the
Internet, I think he's a sick individual and needs compassion rather 
than

scathing rage.

Of course if it's someone else, then feed him his genitals for all I 
care.


Chris Bartlett


-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of 
loriduncan

Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 3:26 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

I agree, and the same goes for those stupid hackers and cheaters on 
Swamp

and other games.

-Original Message- From: Charles Rivard
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 8:19 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.

I would like to see the perpetrators cut off from the Internet 
entirely.
Can't be done, though, unless they were imprisoned, which isn't too 
bad of

an idea, either.

---
Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're 
finished,

you! really! are! finished!
- Original Message - From: Thomas Ward 
thomasward1...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.



Hello Lori,

It isn't quite that simple. The people responsible for the spam
attacks were faking e-mail addresses of various legitimate list
members, and obviously the e-mails did not actually come from those
members themselves. However, Mailman, the list software we use, has no
way of knowing if an e-mail address is being faked or not and approved
them not knowing it was spam. However, we have contacted Linode and
are working to cut off the perpetrator's access to the list.

cheers!

On 12/15/13, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote:

Whoever it is should be banned from using the list.


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2013-12-15 Thread dark
Well Ulysses  according to several deffinitions I know you and everyone in 
the world have already experienced mental illness.


In very many cases mental illness is an exaggeration of the norm, For 
example most people have fealt a degree of negative emotion or sadness, it 
becomes depression however when either a, it has no visible cause or B, it's 
effects cannot be countered by the individual themselves even when the cause 
of the depression is known.


Same with things like schizophrenia, since you've had beliefs, fears, 
perceptions of reality that weren't correct.


My one concern with a purely neurological apporach is that it can be 
extremely dehumanising and can ignore the freedom and autonomy of 
individuals. indeed in extreme cases I have seen strong proponents of 
biological determinism adopt an epeophinomonological perspective, where they 
believe the actual qualea of experienced consciousness is simply a sideline 
of an underlying neurological process, and would like to for example replace 
the term sadness in our dictionary as to just! mean low serotonin levels, 
even though in practice the link between serotonin and depression is just a 
corrilation not an identical one. Or to put it another way, the brain is a 
physical object which possesses mental properties which are not identical 
with the physical aspects of that object though they relate to it.


This is why while I find neuro psychology fascinating as a subject I'd not 
want to forget the human element of mind and consciousness, indeed as one 
very respected philosopher in my department who has himself studdied the 
relationship of experience and consciousness from a buhdist perspective once 
said to me the biggest problem with psychologists is that they aren't good 
enough philosophers


A great book to read on this subject is Introduction tophilosophy of Mind by 
E.J. Lowe, (and I'm not just recommending it because it was written by one 
of my university's professors), since it goes through many of the central 
issues and offers some quite unique perspectives.



Then again, unless your planning on creating a game of Brain invaders this 
is probably off topic for the list so we'd better bring this discussion back 
to games.


Beware the grue!

dark. 



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