...no.
Best Regards,
Hayden
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Hi dark,
I've been able
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I'm in agreement with that. Does rail racer still work? With mine it
actually doesn't
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Sent: 06 June 2010
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Well I wouldn't know about that to be quite frank. I didn't use the Blazie
Notetakers' calculator much because it had a tendency to round
Hi tom.
It's funny you mention colour blindness. As you know, I am registered blind
here in the uk, however I have a small amount of vision. My vision is by no
means great, but I have been playing graphical games with it for years.
Just as I do with other games, i also look at low vision
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I agree. I actually liked JFW and JFD better back when
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Hi Brian,
The calculator on the Blazie Notetakers was excellent. You had all kinds
of
conversions, temperature, measurement and so forth, while the BrailleNote
I
have now lacks many
hi Tom.
this is disturbingly true, in fact I myself don't own an accessible mobile
phone for precisely the same reason, well my phone is perfectly
accessible in that I can pick up and phone with it, but not in any other
way.
It is however interesting to view this problem in light of my
he'd probably be replaced.
Beware the grue!
Dark.
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From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net
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Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 8:28 PM
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I'd like to see
be that eager to take up his cause.
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From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net
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Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 8:28 PM
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I'd like to see the CEO
well myself I don't I'd get any phone of any sort if the local
foundation had an aggreement with vodaphone to fund part of talks
standard so its only 100 per licence as long as i get a supported phone.
myself though I'd be happy with calling and texting abilities and nothing else.
its all I use
probibly won't be that eager to take up his cause.
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From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net
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I'd like to see the CEO
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Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 9:29 PM
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Oh I know it's not likely to change anything, but it's worth imagining.
Because if he did
Yeah probably.
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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From: dark d...@xgam.org
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Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 4:29 PM
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Well, given the way I've seen atitudes
Hi Dark,
Very interesting research there. I hadn't thought about it much, but
you are right. When it comes to passing laws protecting those with
disabilities, or making products meant to aid those with same
disability it would help to have a definition in place I.E. a standard
to go by that isn't
Hi Bryan,
It does pose an interesting situation even if a bit unlikely. Making
accesssible software like games is completely unimportant until it
effects someone personally. It wouldn't necessarily have to be a CEO,
but a family member, a board member, or one of the lead game
developers for it to
of
them even begins to consider taking us seriously.
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 9:37 PM
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Hi tom.
that is right, as in fact an author I was reading for my phd research said
Disability is a catagory which is always open
However, the more I look into the motiviations and discussions of the indi
games movement and the people who write games for it, the more I'm rather
uncertain
Thomas said:
Recently I read the white paper 7128 has on their web site on exactly
how much money mainstream and independant game companies stand to lose
if they don't start making their games accessible to their aging
customers. While I think Elinor and Steffany did a good job on the
paper, made
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Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 7:54 PM
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Hi,
Well, before my wife and I moved into our current apartment we had a
spare bed room which we used as a home office. Since I
, June 07, 2010 8:36 PM
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Hi Dark,
Right. Regardless of what Nintendo's motivation was or wasn't in
creating the Sound Voyager games we really can not expect them to
take us very seriously. At least not until it really begins hurting
them
Hi Dark,
Yes, and unfortunately what this really tells me as a society, the
majority of the human race, really has a problem dealing with
disability issues head on. It is almost as though most people,
especially companies, act as though as long as they ignore it the
problem doesn't exist. However,
gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 12:22 PM
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Hi Dark,
Yes, and unfortunately what this really tells me as a society, the
majority of the human race, really has a problem dealing with
disability issues head on. It is almost
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 10:29 AM
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If they think that, that's actually quite stupid. In my apinyin, sited games
are cool, as well as blind games these days. Yes, blind games need alittle
improvement
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Wow! 500 GB!
My audio games for the blind group.
Discussions off topic are welcome in the holidays. Talking about games is
welcome, talking about computer problems is welcome when their are know
holidays but that's only in easter holidays
Hi Eleanor,
No problem. As it is I really think your white paper hit the mark when
it comes down to putting out the facts of the situation, and
unfortunately I'm afraid the aging gamers out there are going to be
ignored by the big mainstream companies anyway.
For example, my grandma is in her mid
!
Dark.
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From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 11:39 PM
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Hi Thomas,
The sad thing is that APH sells their games mainly to schools who
Hi tom.
In the case of sound voyager, I don't think it was actually markited as
games intended for blind people, so much as just games with sound intended
for sited people. Afterall, i doubt despite the efforts of the game
accessibility sig etc, that nintendo, sega, sony capcom etc even know
Ah Phil I thought you had an office, always pictured you as having one.
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Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 3:18 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] accessible game companies with offices
Hi Folks
, June 07, 2010 10:27 AM
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Ah Phil I thought you had an office, always pictured you as having one.
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Hi,
Well, before my wife and I moved into our current apartment we had a
spare bed room which we used as a home office. Since I work from home
that really turned out to be a good setup. We had a couple of desks in
there with a couple of desktop PC's in there, book cases, filing
cabinates, etc.
Hi Dark,
Right. Regardless of what Nintendo's motivation was or wasn't in
creating the Sound Voyager games we really can not expect them to
take us very seriously. At least not until it really begins hurting
them financially.
Recently I read the white paper 7128 has on their web site on exactly
...Ni!
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Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 1:36 PM
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Hi Dark,
Right. Regardless of what Nintendo's motivation was or wasn't
Hi Folks,
The only two accessible game companies that I know have offices are,
Paul Silva, Jeremie Spitzer, and Tim Keenan's All inPlay.
Larry Skutchan's American Printing House for the Blind, with work by Elaine
Kitchel, Rob Meredith, Rodger Smith, and John Hedges.
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the grue!
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Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 3:18 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] accessible game companies with offices
Hi Folks,
The only two accessible game companies that I know have
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Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 6:00 PM
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Not to be funny
Hi dark,
I've been able to install and run all of the APH games.
They had a beta system that allowed you to download an play a timed version
of their games.
You are correct in that they have not released a game in quite a while.
And they sold some of the most expensive games, although they
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Hi dark,
I've been able to install and run all of the APH games.
They had a beta system that allowed you to download an play a timed
, June 06, 2010 3:21 PM
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I might give the games another try actually at some stage but certainly
neither armadillo army, nor termite torpedo worked when I downloaded and
tried them in order to give the demos
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Hi dark,
I've been able to install and run all of the APH games
Hi,
Well, I think the problem is that most of the people who work for APH
don't have the foggiest idea we are out here, and therefore they don't
have anything to compare their games too. As you pointed out there
are certainly far better accessible games for the same price or less
so buying the
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Hi,
Well, I think the problem is that most of the people who work for APH
don't have the foggiest idea
I must confess I don't really have much sympathy for developers who planely
have the skils and knolidge to create games, but take no effort to actually
look at what Vi players would want, or what else has been developed in the
same line.
Entombed came about because jason Alan was interested
Hi Thomas,
The sad thing is that APH sells their games mainly to schools who are their
main customers.
So blind kids who play their arcade games probably think that is the state
of the art in audio games.
They do have partially sighted kids in mind so have included full graphics
with their
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Hi Thomas,
The sad thing is that APH sells their games mainly to schools who are their
main customers.
So blind kids who play their arcade games probably think that is the state
of the art in audio games.
They do have partially
Hi Dark,
Yeah, I know. That's the fundimental problem with any well known
company or organisation. They just assume what a blind person would
want, would need, or figure what a blind person could play and produce
an inferior product holy unaware of what else may be out there being
produced by an
Hi Phil,
Yeah, I know. I tried the demos when they came out and I just wasn't
impressed with there games. For one thing they were way too high, I
had payed less for the GMA games I owned, and felt they were superior
products to the APH games.
However,the truly sad thing is when those games came
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